Benfica - 2009/2010 ***SPOILERS***

[Benfi]

There is a new Benfica this season...Beware.

Saviola, Aimar, Luisão, Ramires, Di Maria, Cardoso...

Liga Europa first champion.

[Volta]

There is a new Benfica this season...Beware.

Saviola, Aimar, Luisão, Ramires, Di Maria, Cardoso...

Liga Europa first champion.

Its not the Champions League :D

[Orton]

Is this seriously an entire thread coz Benfica have got a few more average players?

[kuuze]

Ok...

[casaubon]

hahahahaha!

[deviant]

hahahahaha!
You lied me to me, you told me they are shite but it looks like their win is secured now :p

[casaubon]

You lied me to me, you told me they are shite but it looks like their win is secured now :p

What win?

[Sawyer]

Thats a pretty tasty line up in all fairness tho!!! :eek:

[br0pbr0p]

And pigs are going to fly into the stadiums next year.

[casaubon]

Its not the Champions League :D

Don't worry, they aren't going far in the Europa League either.

[smbneto]

There is a new Benfica this season...Beware.

Saviola, Aimar, Luisão, Ramires, Di Maria, Cardoso...

Liga Europa first champion.


Come on mate, we may have bought a few decent players but look what happened last year with suazo, reyes, aimar...

Better to keep low profile and catch them unprepared.


Benfica Sempre

[Benfi]

Is this seriously an entire thread coz Benfica have got a few more average players?

Football is all about passion, so if you don't live football with passion, what's the point in it??

[Orton]

Football is all about passion, so if you don't live football with passion, what's the point in it??

I think its safe to say that everyone on this board is passionate about football...there is just no need to start an entire thread because you like your team.

[fulhamfever]

Don't worry, they aren't going far in the Europa League either.

Fulham will stopped them thats why

[wong_ma]

Fulham will stopped them thats why

Next...

[Wampyro]

Benfica 09/10 it will be something like this:

Moreira
Quim (???)
Moretto

Maxi Pereira ----- Luisão ----- D. Luiz ----- Shaffer
Patric ----- Sidnei ----- M. Victor ----- Sepsi


??????
Yebda

Ramires ------------- Di Maria
R. Amorim ------------- Coentrão

Aimar
C. Martins


Saviola -------- O. Cardozo
N. Gomes ??????

Some young promisses like F. Bastos, Urretaviscaya and Balboa may stay in the team!

[Joelzinho]

Miguel Victor is ahead of Luiz, as is Sidnei. Roderick Mirand the 18 year old CB looks very promising, as does Nelson the 17 year old striker.

[JuveDrughi]

I think its safe to say that everyone on this board is passionate about football...there is just no need to start an entire thread because you like your team.

Why not? There are tons of teams in the Club House, why not Benfica? I'm sure with this new thread, there will be plenty of fans of the team to join in a support their club. If you don't like Benfica, or if you just simply don't care about Benfica, then don't open this thread. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[p0rt0b0y]

Do you see what fans of other clubs in Portugal have to put up with? Every year its the same story.
They sign one or two big name has beens and then get all excited and claim that they will be European and World Champions and will win the league by 20 points.
The outcome. Another title for Porto, Benfica in 3rd or 4th and a disgraceful showing in European competition.
Stop living in the past and learn to be a bit humble and realistic.

[rymert19]

This is a great thread for Benfica and Porto fans to trash talk in. I'll allow it:p

[Volta]

This is a great thread for Benfica and Porto fans to trash talk in. I'll allow it:p

and you are....?

[deviant]

My thoughts too you never see trash talking among Portuguese football fans here :D

[casaubon]

Do you see what fans of other clubs in Portugal have to put up with? Every year its the same story.
They sign one or two big name has beens and then get all excited and claim that they will be European and World Champions and will win the league by 20 points.
The outcome. Another title for Porto, Benfica in 3rd or 4th and a disgraceful showing in European competition.
Stop living in the past and learn to be a bit humble and realistic.

Foda-se, para quê dar-te ao trabalho de responderes a esses merdas?

Translation: My hovercraft is full of eels.

[p0rt0b0y]

Foda-se, para quê dar-te ao trabalho de responderes a esses merdas?

Translation: My hovercraft is full of eels.

Chegou ou ponto que nao podia deixar passar. Ja enjoa. E so garganta estes vermelhos. Your right tho. Waste of time.

Translation: Hovercrafts and eels are a bad mix.

[sweed]

Foda-se, para quê dar-te ao trabalho de responderes a esses merdas?

Translation: My hovercraft is full of eels.

Chegou ou ponto que nao podia deixar passar. Ja enjoa. E so garganta estes vermelhos. Your right tho. Waste of time.

Translation: Hovercrafts and eels are a bad mix.

Those translations are lies! :p

Google said so ;)

[Wampyro]

Benfica 09/10 it will be something like this:

Moreira
Quim (???)
Moretto

Maxi Pereira ----- Luisão ----- D. Luiz ----- Shaffer
Patric ----- Sidnei ----- M. Victor ----- Sepsi


??????Javi García
Yebda

Ramires ------------- Di Maria
R. Amorim ------------- Coentrão

Aimar
C. Martins


Saviola -------- O. Cardozo
N. Gomes ??????Weldon

Some young promisses like F. Bastos, Urretaviscaya and Balboa may stay in the team!

Now, may be just a new GK, but only if Benfica has some place to put Quim or Moreira.

[Whoah10115]

Great to see some nasty Portuguese on the boards. I love the word "merda".


I will say this: Javier Saviola can still beast. The question is does he have balls?

[jvmartins]

yeah yeah get used to 3 place, its your natural place

[Chris]

Just pulled this from Wikipedia, Be mistaken I couldn't give an entire shite about Portuguese Football, and I can't help but think this thread will last about a week before vanashing. And it may need * Spoiler * tags,

Wiki Tells me on the 8th June 2009,

manager Quique Sánchez Flores resigns as coach after agreeing to a friendly contractual termination, he was replaced by former S.C. Braga manager Jorge Jesus on the 17 June, 2009.

It then goes on too say,

On July 12 2009, Benfica tied FC Sion 2-2 in its 1st of 10 pre-season friendlies of the 2009-2010 season with Oscar Cardozo and Javier Saviola scoring the goals. On July 13 2009, in their 2nd of 10 friendlies, they beat defending UEFA cup champions Shakhtar Donetsk 2-0 with goals coming from Oscar Cardozo and Carlos Jorge Neto Martins. On July 16 2009, in their 3rd of 10 friendlies, Benfica beat Atletico Bilbao 2-1 with Javier Saviola scoring 2 2nd half goals. On July 18 2009, in their 4th of 10 friendlies they beat S.C. Olhanense 2-1 with a 74th min hi-lite goal from Oscar Cardozo and an injury time goal by Miguel Vitor. On July 21 2009, in their 5th of 10 friendlies, they lost to Atletico Madrid 2-1 with the only goal coming from Oscar Cardozo. The game was played infront of 58,000 fans at Estadio da Luz as this was the presentation game and the 1st game Simao Sabrosa played vs Benfica in an Atletico Madrid uniform.

And the heading is

New Benfica: Jorge Jesus Era - current years (2009-present)

Transfers In =

Patric — São Caetano — €3 million
Ramires — Cruzeiro — €7.5 million
José Shaffer — Racing Club — €1.5 million
Javier Saviola — Real Madrid — €5 million
Javi García — Real Madrid — €7 million
Weldon — Sport Recife — €200 thousand

I hardly think signing some above average players, well, 2 good players (Saviola and Garcia) = New Benfica: Jorge Jesus Era - current years (2009-present)

[Jacque Miof]

Those translations are lies! :p

Google said so ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2470/3751194773_289133dda8_o.jpg

LOL:D

[west501]

lineup is looking great
I hope Aimar Saviolita and Di María have big seasons
I will be watching for sure

[casaubon]

LOL:D

Did you miss the Monty Python reference?

[Jacque Miof]

Did you miss the Monty Python reference?

i wish to plead incompetence.;)

[greenman]

and add Keirrison to that squad.
Just got him on a 2 year loan from Barcelona.

[jnice17]

and add Keirrison to that squad.
Just got him on a 2 year loan from Barcelona.

No. One year with an option for the second. If we want him after the first year, we can take him.

[Orton]

No. One year with an option for the second. If we want him after the first year, we can take him.

You don't have to make it sound so brutal :)

[jnice17]

You don't have to make it sound so brutal :)

LOL, my bad.

[deviant]

He might aswell stay on a permanent Im not impressed...:o my two cents

[jnice17]

He might aswell stay on a permanent Im not impressed...:o my two cents

Hence why he is going on loan in the first place. Needs to develop his game more, but there is no denying the potential. Doesn't look pretty, but he scores goals. And I hope he ends up relegating Saviola to the bench.

[talk2smc]

Hence why he is going on loan in the first place. Needs to develop his game more, but there is no denying the potential. Doesn't look pretty, but he scores goals. And I hope he ends up relegating Saviola to the bench.

hes just inconsistent right now thats all.

was hoping Roma did something in the market and took him on loan. apparently.......not.

[jnice17]

hes just inconsistent right now thats all.

was hoping Roma did something in the market and took him on loan. apparently.......not.

You think he would've got time?

[talk2smc]

You think he would've got time?

i do.
Spalletti has been hunting for a PK box striker this market, (for years actually).
and he has stated he would take players on loan and throw them right in to play at a proper CF poaching forward.

it was actually the preferred idea as the funds arent really there to sign Huntelaar for example. with only Totti and Vucinic really (Totti, injuries, Mirko, inconsistency) and Okaka who may or may not be loaned, and Baptista showing he cant really lead the line, we need a true Pippo-esque forward.

not Keirrison it seems, tho.

[jnice17]

Damn. I would have like him to go Roma, too. Oh well. Hope he performs at Benfica.

[Luís Figo 7]

I'm happy Porto didn't get him on loan, personally loans without an option of buying are crap. Benfica did the same thing with Miccoli and they lost a key player afterwords, it just fucks with your team.

[Wampyro]

Yesterday Benfica played Eusebio Cup against Milan.

The Benfica team for de Season will be something like that:


GR: Moreira, Quim, Julio Cesar
RB: Maxi Pereira, Patric or Luis Filipe
LB: Shaffer, C. Peixoto
RCB: Luisão, M. Victor
LCB: David Luiz, Sidnei
DM: Javi Garcia, Yebda
RCM: Ramires, Ruben Amorim, Urretavyscaia
LCM: Di Maria, Coentrão
OM: Aimar, C. Martins
ST: Saviola, Weldon, N. Gomes
ST: Cardozo, Keirrison, Mantorras

Actualy, Maxi is injuried and Ruben Amorim is playing at RB

[SPECIAL_K]

slyly supporting Benfica this season tbh, squad is IMMENSE

[talk2smc]

hey dumbass, you can neg all you want, read the fucking site rules and dont spoil results

[Wampyro]

After Yesterday game, I have to say that Fabio Coentrão cold be the next great Portuguese Winger.

http://www.serbenfiquista.com//extras/fotos/apres_088.jpg

http://gallery.fotoglif.com/images/large/vg43kwknbv8r.jpg

[Wampyro]

It worth to spend about 2 hours to see the yesterday Benfica game!

[Wampyro]

It worth to spend about 2 hours to see the yesterday Benfica game!


Benfica are playing very well and players like Saviola and Aimar are back to is hold times in River Plate.


Edit: Ramires, the Brazilien midfielder is gonna be a very serious case if he continue playing like that

[Wampyro]

Best attack in the World right now, with 3.43 goals/match

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/benfica/cardozo3.jpg

Oscar Tacuara Cardozo 8 goals in 7 matches

[robin9]

I watched Benfica with AEK, a lot of hype but not much end product.

[talk2smc]

Best attack in the World right now, with 3.43 goals/match

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/benfica/cardozo3.jpg

Oscar Tacuara Cardozo 8 goals in 7 matches

or worst defenses..what a terrible stat. Di Natale's got 9 in 7, Totti 6 in 7. against much better defenses. not sure about team's averages per match, but again, pretty much a waste of a stat, as obviously Benfica/Porto/Sporting our a tier above the rest of the Portuguese league, and even the top teams dont spend too much time on defense there from what ive seen.

[casaubon]

Why even bother visiting this thread?

I ask myself even.

[jimmy]

or worst defenses..what a terrible stat. Di Natale's got 9 in 7, Totti 6 in 7. against much better defenses. not sure about team's averages per match, but again, pretty much a waste of a stat, as obviously Benfica/Porto/Sporting our a tier above the rest of the Portuguese league, and even the top teams dont spend too much time on defense there from what ive seen.
you're ignorant. achievements are achievements regardless, don't be so quick and naive to jump on bangwagon and throw more undue criticism upon something which is the complete different. you can only do perform to the best of what is put on the table in front of you.

so much negativity in the world, people look to bring you down first and foremost. it's ridiculous. fuck you all.

[talk2smc]

you're ignorant. achievements are achievements regardless, don't be so quick and naive to jump on bangwagon and throw more undue criticism upon something which is the complete different. you can only do perform to the best of what is put on the table in front of you.

so much negativity in the world, people look to bring you down first and foremost. it's ridiculous. fuck you all.

you are 100% right. my apologies. the top goalscorer in the San Marino league IS the same as the Capocannoniere.

and the WC IS the same as the the World Club Championship.

whoa, how incredibly ignorant of me to think otherwise.

[jimmy]

you are 100% right. my apologies. the top goalscorer in the San Marino league IS the same as the Capocannoniere.

and the WC IS the same as the the World Club Championship.

whoa, how incredibly ignorant of me to think otherwise.
listen punk, if you wanna add to your ignorance by calling me out and infuriating me further you're going the right way about it, what the hell are you talking about - you go from one extreme to another, you totally fail to see the facts put in front of you and try to justify your claims by using ludicrous examples which anyone with a footballing mind have no real significance in a money talking sport where it's pay to play and play to be paid.

go stick your head up a camels ass and take a good long sniff and then come back and talk some sense cos i aint talking sense to a fool if he's just gonna come back with more foolish antics.

[Wampyro]

or worst defenses..what a terrible stat. Di Natale's got 9 in 7, Totti 6 in 7. against much better defenses. not sure about team's averages per match, but again, pretty much a waste of a stat, as obviously Benfica/Porto/Sporting our a tier above the rest of the Portuguese league, and even the top teams dont spend too much time on defense there from what ive seen.


Ok, But if it's so easy score goals against the Portuguese defenses, why Porto only scored 15 and Sporting 8 in the same 7 matches and Benfica score 24?

In Portugal all the teams play against the 3 top teams with 9 players in defense and 1 running alone in front.

If you see the results of Portuguese lower teams in Uefa in the past years, none of them lost by 5 or more goals.

[Wampyro]

At this time, Benfica can have 6 players in the best South-American teams in the starting eleven.

Luisão and Ramires (Brasil)
Di Maria and Aimar (Argentina)
Maxi Pereira (Uruguay)
Cardozo (Paraguay)

[jimmy]

hey wampyro i'm totally with you on this subject. but please do not describe argentina as the one of the best south american teams, they're simply not - as individuals maybe, but as a collective, not.

either way, i'm rooting for braga this season:p

[casaubon]

Ok, But if it's so easy score goals against the Portuguese defenses, why Porto only scored 15 and Sporting 8 in the same 7 matches and Benfica score 24?

In Portugal all the teams play against the 3 top teams with 9 players in defense and 1 running alone in front.

If you see the results of Portuguese lower teams in Uefa in the past years, none of them lost by 5 or more goals.

Look here palerma, neither of the 3 teams have had the same opponents. Go bother someone else with your lampionice.

[talk2smc]

beyond jimmys classy responses...always providing a compelling argument:

im simply stating that:
a league that isnt known for its defensive prowess (from what i have seen) with a club with the "best attack in the world" who arent even top of their table, certainly dont qualify for equaling achievements on par with more competition.

whoooaah, oh my gooooddd..:rolleyes:

i dont think playing in a lesser competitive league, i.e. mid table teams not as good as other leagues mid table teams means best attack, best whatever. in Portugal perhaps. not Europe, and definitely not the world.
im not saying Porto, Benfica, etc other teams arent good. im sure they would give Roma a run for the money. but playing every week in the Portuguese Liga is not the same as in Italy, England, Spain, etc.

i also dont really feel that- tho its a great scoring record for a few games, i didnt wet my pants.

Totti has scored 16 for Roma so far since the season started, 10 of those in European competition.
Ronaldo 5 in 5 for Madrid.
Ibra, 5 in 6 for Barcelona.
Bent, 7 in 8 for Sunderland.

but perhaps as some feel- achievements are achievements, and scoring 8, 6,7 whatever in England, Italy, or what have you is the same as scoring 7,6,8 in J-League, A-League and MLS.

[casaubon]

Let me put things into perspective using FC Porto as an example.

We have been the best Portuguese side for close to 30 years now, we´ve recently had great international victories and I believe that we are well respected and a bit feared (not pee in your pants fear, just be sure to be on your toes caution). And our status wasn´t achieved due to our domestic achievements.

The big boys in Europe don´t give a shit if we´ve won 11 of the last 15 portuguese championships. But our composure in Europe (and the talented players we´ve exported) is what makes us noticed.

So far what Benfica has done has been shit. Nobody is really paying any attention.

[jimmy]

We have been the best Portuguese side for close to 30 years now, we´ve recently had great international victories and I believe that we are well respected *taps shoulder* http://i35.tinypic.com/kdswe8.gif - i don't hold grudges, but i'm still bitter..

[Wampyro]

One more excelent game against Everton.

The second half has a lesson how to play offensive football!

[smbneto]

Look here palerma, neither of the 3 teams have had the same opponents. Go bother someone else with your lampionice.

Oh, um cavalo marinho enervado.

[ligerpt]

There's some football besides the major leagues. If you insist ignoring that fact, you might get a few surprises like Everton did last night.
If you still think that Benfica is an average team with average players, just get out of your cave.

[west501]

If you still think that Benfica is an average team with average players, just get out of your cave.

yes, Benfica have an 'all-star team' that could challenge for any title in Europe
with a jogo bonito midfield like that I daresay they could play a lot of top flight teams into the ground
each league has a world beating team or two, and Benfica are certainly one this year
the midtable argument breaks down with a win like that against Everton
in fact, I've been saying for years that the mid-table in the Prem remains very poor in terms of quality and money

[Chelsky_15]

I was impressed with the big win against everton, some really nice goals in there but having said that, everton have been pretty shit so far this season (ex: 6-1 demolition v. arsenal i think). So we'll see, I'm not sure this solidifies Benfica as a force to be reckon with in Europe just yet but if they continue to play the way they've been playing, they might be in with a shout to get the europa ligue trophy...

[talk2smc]

slap a spoilers tag or stop talking about the all great powerhouse Benfica and recent matches please.

[jimmy]

Cheira a merda aqui.
i was looking for you in chat the other day buddy http://i38.tinypic.com/347fcx1.gif

[thousandpimps]

for everyone making when pigs fly remarks....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa228/will_e_777/simpsons_flying_pig.jpg

yes it does happen..it does

[matad0r]

I used to hated Benfica till they sent Ricky 'Kikin' Fonseca back home crying and washed up.

[Wampyro]

1, 2, 3,http://i35.tinypic.com/10xdjiw.gif,5 ,6 ;)

For you, my dear andrade ;)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7293/4fotoart.png

[ligerpt]

6 goals more. Next team, please!

[Entangled]

for everyone making when pigs fly remarks....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa228/will_e_777/simpsons_flying_pig.jpg

yes it does happen..it does

Oooh, RIP Linda McCartney...

[thousandpimps]

so u've watched that episode too lol

[bijitaq]

Look here palerma, neither of the 3 teams have had the same opponents. Go bother someone else with your lampionice.

Anyone who wants to know the reason behind Porto's domestic success just needs to google: "fc porto corruption".

They have bought referees with prostitutes and money.
Their president has received a referee at his house the day before that same referee was suposed to referree a Porto game.
Their president likes to date prostitutes.
The best well known portuguese referee at the moment is Jorge Sousa, he was a member of Super Dragões, Porto's drug trafficking football firm.

In the last day of the portuguese Superliga, that same referee managed to red card Cardozo, Benfica's top striker, at half time after he was punched in the face by two Braga players and he also managed to left several hand balls by Braga go unnoticed, one of those was inside the penalty box.

In the meanwhile Porto has already had a handful of friendly referees and are still near the top after playing really weak football.

Benfica is just too good this year, it's the best team in the League by a mile, we play highly technical atacking football (as anyone who as seen the two games against Everton can confirm) and we'll still be champions this year, even if it means playing against the referees and the "ruling class" of portuguese football.

[casaubon]

Anyone who wants to know the reason behind Porto's domestic success just needs to google: "fc porto corruption".

They have bought referees with prostitutes and money.
Their president has received a referee at his house the day before that same referee was suposed to referree a Porto game.
Their president likes to date prostitutes.
The best well known portuguese referee at the moment is Jorge Sousa, he was a member of Super Dragões, Porto's drug trafficking football firm.

In the last day of the portuguese Superliga, that same referee managed to red card Cardozo, Benfica's top striker, at half time after he was punched in the face by two Braga players and he also managed to left several hand balls by Braga go unnoticed, one of those was inside the penalty box.

In the meanwhile Porto has already had a handful of friendly referees and are still near the top after playing really weak football.

Benfica is just too good this year, it's the best team in the League by a mile, we play highly technical atacking football (as anyone who as seen the two games against Everton can confirm) and we'll still be champions this year, even if it means playing against the referees and the "ruling class" of portuguese football.

Proof asshole. Proof. Every court has dismissed every single case against Porto. Even CAS has considered the accusations utterly ridiculous.

[Luís Figo 7]

I'd like to see Benfica face a real competitive team, all of these large victories don't mean shit. You've already managed to fuck up in Greece and Braga:D
Typically fans get all cocky early and moan about corruption, til you hit the down fall...
PENTA 05-10:cool:

[bijitaq]

Proof asshole. Proof. Every court has dismissed every single case against Porto. Even CAS has considered the accusations utterly ridiculous.

AHAHAHAAHAHAHA... you're a pathetic little weasel aren't you?
PROOF? You want PROOF?

There's recorded phone calls all over the press that prove that referees were bought and paid for. Just because our corrupt judicial system considered those recordings not acceptable in court everyone knows the truth.

Your president admitted to have received a referee at his house, supposedly to give marriage counseling to that referees's father. I'M NOT JOKING EVERYONE, THEY ACTUALLY SAID THAT IN COURT!!!! HILARIOUS.

Carolina Salgado, Porto's President last sweetheart is a known prostitute.

And not everyone has dismissed the accusations, the Football League has punished you, it might have been a slap in the wrist (for much less Juventus and AC Milan were relegated) but we live in the butthole of the world, where corruption runs rampant and cheating does pay.

So enjoy you're tainted victories, I know the truth, AND YOU KNOW THE TRUTH AS WELL, you're just a typical Porto supporter, an unrepentant cheater, that gloats about victories that your team didn't won, they just paid for.

[Wampyro]

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[wong_ma]

Just wanna ask...How is Javi Garcia doing?

[Wampyro]

Just wanna ask...How is Javi Garcia doing?

Very well. He is one of the most important players in this team, cause he is the one who maintain the defensive balance of the team. The other 3 midfielders are Aimar, Di Maria the ofensive players and the Brazilien Ramires that helps Javi and the other two ofensive midfielders. Benfica have a centre back that atacks very often (David Luiz) and Javi was perfet securing that role when that happens.

Tactically Javi is a very intelligent player.

Benfica will miss him in the next two matches cause is suspended.

[wong_ma]

Hope he does do well there.

Too bad his potential couldn't be fulfilled @ Real.

Did he have a buy back clause by any chance? I know its unrealistic that we would buy him back, since we bought Sergio Canales. I'm just interested since most of Real's cantera players that get sold off have buy back clauses and other random clauses.

[casaubon]

Tell him about Javi Garcia's sumaríssimo and how he is STILL playing. Go ahead, I dare you.

Edit: Oh, so he finally is suspended, interesting.

[wong_ma]

sumaríssimo? Meaning?

[casaubon]

sumaríssimo? Meaning?

An immediate suspension for a foul occurring on the field that the ref hasn't noticed. Usually it's applied for players that elbow other players and get away with it. Porto players were famous for getting sumaríssimos, ie: Quaresma, McCarthy and Lisandro. Basically this measure was only applied to Porto players. And when Porto appealed the suspension was increased, go figure.

With Javi Garcia his sumaríssimo didn't come into effect immediately (Benfica couldn't afford to lose him for a few games). This is portuguese football...

This is Luisão kicking an opposing player:

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The ref saw this and he gave him a YELLOW card, so according to the immediate suspension rules of the sumaríssimo nothing happened, by reason of the ref having seen it and taked "appropriate" disciplinary action.

[Wampyro]

Hope he does do well there.

Too bad his potential couldn't be fulfilled @ Real.

Did he have a buy back clause by any chance? I know its unrealistic that we would buy him back, since we bought Sergio Canales. I'm just interested since most of Real's cantera players that get sold off have buy back clauses and other random clauses.

Theres no buy back clause for Javi Garcia. Benfica pay 6,5 M to Real and now Javi have a clause of 30M. I think he could leave Benfica for 20/25M in the end of the season.

Javi have a 2 match ban for respond to an aggression of a Maritimo player.

I believe that Javi could easily be a substitute of Senna in Spanish NT

Btw, casaubon is a corruption fan (f.c.oporto) and its nervous cause the police is today in the corruption offices. May he opens a threat about is corru...club and leave us without read is stupidities here...

[casaubon]

Theres no buy back clause for Javi Garcia. Benfica pay 6,5 M to Real and now Javi have a clause of 30M. I think he could leave Benfica for 20/25M in the end of the season.

Javi have a 2 match ban for respond to an aggression of a Maritimo player.

I believe that Javi could easily be a substitute of Senna in Spanish NT

Btw, casaubon is a corruption fan (f.c.oporto) and its nervous cause the police is today in the corruption offices. May he opens a threat about is corru...club and leave us without read is stupidities here...

Sure, spread that inane rumour around, spread it. Keep on disguising your club's inability to compete at the highest level by casting aspersions on others. Cry and whine all you want. Vozes de burro...

[Wampyro]

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Angel Di Maria on fire today!

[casaubon]

Who the fuck cares? Open a thread in the Club Houses section for fuck sake.

[deviant]

haha I love this thread

[Wampyro]

Who the fuck cares? Open a thread in the Club Houses section for fuck sake.


You are the one who cares more. Take a big hug from Di Magia...

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[Wampyro]

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[Wampyro]

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[fulhamfever]

Bring Rui Costa out of Retirement as well just add to the list

[Wampyro]

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NEXT...

[Benfi]

Benfica against Liverpool promises to be a very exciting quarter-finals.

Let´s see if against them, we can do the same like we did with Everton...

[casaubon]

Hubris, the natural habitat of the Benfica fan... Gotta love it.

[thisisoverlord!]

What a wankerish thread this is, my god imagine if we had one of these posts for every team in he football talk section, this really should be moved to a Benfica club house if we have one. I see we don't have one so Benfi I suggest you apply for one :)

http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78593

As for Benfica Vs Liverpool, I'm not going to say anything as it seems to be pot luck if our real team turns up or some shoddy Chinese built clones that's only purpose is to play like dicks and whinge endlessly about their contracts and being in the CL. Yes you Clone Carragher, Clone Reira, Clone Torres....:rolleyes:

[drac78]

Is this the diving thread?

[Wampyro]

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Great Win against Corruption!!

[deviant]

Casaboun is going ape shit right about now.

[casaubon]

Not really. Sick and tired of this shitty season. They deserved to win, they were better. Then again who the fuck can't beat us now anyway?

Now I know how a Benfiquista has felt for the last 20 years. Like shit.

I just like the little jab of the dude up there with his "Great Win against Corruption". This from a team that should have been relegated and that tried to exclude our participation, illegally I might add, from the Champions League last season. You guys don't even know the beginning of it.

[Entangled]

A League Cup in Portugal? gosh, where I am?:D

[wong_ma]

Now I know how a Benfiquista has felt for the last 20 years. Like shit.
.

Thats a nice comeback haha

[Entangled]

Can't resist... C'mon casaubon, put a big smile here ;)

[Wampyro]

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European Champions in Futsal!

[Entangled]

fut... wha?

[swarley88]

So... you get a trophy AND an eagle for winning? :eek:

[Wampyro]

So... you get a trophy AND an eagle for winning? :eek:


The eagle is the Benfica symbol and is in every games in estadio da Luz.

Check out the video of "Aguia Vitoria"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUAuxzjJiI

[Wampyro]

The eagle is the Benfica symbol and is in every games in estadio da Luz.

Check out the video of "Aguia Vitoria"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUAuxzjJiI

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[casaubon]

Remember: Benfica's official anthem describes their own players as "jumping poppies"

Yup, jumping flowers...

A well known Benfica fan btw:

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[wong_ma]

She looks like a drug addict!

[casaubon]

She looks like a drug addict!

It's actually a he, but with Benfica fans you never can tell.

[wong_ma]

er...what? a He?

Geez casaubon haha, you really do try and milk out all the shit you can from Benfica

[casaubon]

No effort required :D

[Entangled]

Yup, jumping flowers...
Really? a hippie team? geez... that's embarrasing, what's next?

[casaubon]

Where the fuck are you assholes today? Where?

For the record, Porto played Benfica at home today. We were winning 1-0 and had a guy sent-off and then they scored.

But wouldn't you know it? Porto scored 2 goals and had a ball against the crossbar with 10 men against 11.

3-1.

[Wampyro]

CHAMPIONS 2009/2010

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[casaubon]

It's my birthday so fuck off!

18 red cards for the opposition in one year. 14 penalty kicks in 30 games. A lot to be proud of I know. A total of 7 hours playing against 10 or 9 players.

Plus 4 titles in 20 years. Makes you feel big, doesn't it?


PS: This thread is the most wankerish I've ever seen. Quite befitting for the coprocephalic mentality of the typical pusilanimous benfiquista I say.

[Wampyro]

Happy birthday casaubon

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[casaubon]

Happy birthday casaubon

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Thanks, you have such a supply, you'd be the guy to contact.

[Wampyro]

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STUNNING! Video of the year!

[kingjericho]

It's my birthday so fuck off!

18 red cards for the opposition in one year. 14 penalty kicks in 30 games. A lot to be proud of I know. A total of 7 hours playing against 10 or 9 players.

Plus 4 titles in 20 years. Makes you feel big, doesn't it?

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


wow. how about "congratulations, you really were the better team this year".
oh yeah and in the 45 years between '34-'79 you guys had the astonishing amount of... 7 titles.
so, happy birthday and it's not good for you to be so angry in a day like this. i know that you know that you'd like to feel the mystique of the GLORIOSO, because your little village club is past its prime.

FOREVER SLB

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[casaubon]

wow. how about "congratulations, you really were the better team this year".
oh yeah and in the 45 years between '34-'79 you guys had the astonishing amount of... 7 titles.
so, happy birthday and it's not good for you to be so angry in a day like this. i know that you know that you'd like to feel the mystique of the GLORIOSO, because your little village club is past its prime.

FOREVER SLB


I don't congratulate a team that tried to prevent Porto from participating in the Champions League.

PS: That little village club has 3 times as many international titles as your HUGE CLUB from Alto dos Moinhos.

[kingjericho]

damn, you're canadian? i like canadians, i have family there.
try hockey instead. there are no "apitos dourados" or "envelopes" or "fruta" in hockey. and don't even think about starting with the tunnels crap.

[Arsene_al]

damn, you're canadian? i like canadians, i have family there.
try hockey instead. there are no "apitos dourados" or "envelopes" or "fruta" in hockey. and don't even think about starting with the tunnels crap.

Hoho... you are going to get blasted.... :D

[casaubon]

Nah, leave it. Let him gloat.

[Akuma]

Buh buh buh tunnels, Hulk, penalties, and red cards ;_; I cry a lot, and I am not ashamed of my corrupt president.. who am I? :D

[p0rt0b0y]

I cry a lot, and I am not ashamed of my corrupt president.. who am I? :D

Akuma?

All shit aside, Benfica deserved to win it this year, played the best football. Who cares if they had a little outside help. Throw the dog a bone.

Now its going to be interesting to see how they go next season after the big clubs in Europe rape them for all their best players.

This has been happening to Porto for the last 15 years but we still come back and string 3, 4 or even 5 titles in a row. Thats the real challenge.

Dont come and talk about corruption either....is Porto paying UEFA referees too? Is that how we won the UEFA cup and Chaampions League? Pinto Da Costa's influence must be greater than i thought???

[casaubon]

Buh buh buh tunnels, Hulk, penalties, and red cards ;_; I cry a lot, and I am not ashamed of my corrupt president.. who am I? :D

This coming from a club whose president was arrested "Vale e Azevedo" and whose current president was sentenced to 20 months in prison for theft - "Luis Filipe Vieira".

[Akuma]

Akuma?

All shit aside, Benfica deserved to win it this year, played the best football. Who cares if they had a little outside help. Throw the dog a bone.

Thank you

Now its going to be interesting to see how they go next season after the big clubs in Europe rape them for all their best players.

This has been happening to Porto for the last 15 years but we still come back and string 3, 4 or even 5 titles in a row. Thats the real challenge.
We'll have to wait and see.
I don't see Sporting as a threat, and I believe Braga will not manage to make this surprise again.
As for Porto, well you guys have a challenge too. Replace Jesualdo Ferreira won't be easy, and if Benfica manages to keep the quality with the new players, I believe the championship race will be up to the two teams :)

Dont come and talk about corruption either....is Porto paying UEFA referees too? Is that how we won the UEFA cup and Chaampions League? Pinto Da Costa's influence must be greater than i thought???

It may be, it may be not, there are no proofs. To be honest I do not believe that UEFA is full of saints. We can watch every year the biggest teams being benefited in Champion's league (specially against little teams like the Portuguese), and even in Euro and World Cups.

But I will never take the merit of your wins in 2003 and 2004, because you had a great team, and the best coach. I enjoyed watching every Porto game those years.

Although it's always discussable if you hadn't any help in the internal championship, those trophies would be harder. But I do not want to go that way, I just want you all to be a little ashamed and don't come whine and give a lot of crappy excuses when Benfica wins.


This coming from a club whose president was arrested "Vale e Azevedo" and whose current president was sentenced to 20 months in prison for theft - "Luis Filipe Vieira".


You are really comparing Vale e Azevedo? lol a guy who steals the club for his own pocket, and put it into misery for a lot of years. I am ashamed we had a president like that, and about LFV I don't see how can that excuse the fact Pinto da Costa payed prostitutes and Brazil travels to more than one referee..

[casaubon]

Sure he did. Sure. Howard King ring a bell? You have a confession of a ref claiming that Benfica paid prostitutes so he'd help them in an UEFA match.

As for Porto paying prostitutes? Not one smidgen of proof. And the Calheiros case of the 90s was PROVEN to have been a clerical error. But you benfiquistas just cling on to that little bit of hope that we just might be corrupt, right?

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the bone. You really had to revel in shit to get it.

Vale e Azevedo is a product of the megalomaniacal attitude of Benfica and Benfica supporters. You truly deserved him. Ah, before Vale e Azevedo you already had the Operação Coração. You know, when Benfica was forced to ask for public handouts, begging on the street basically. And LFV is a convicted criminal so shut the fuck up when talking about FC Porto.

[Akuma]

You sure are full of bullshit in your mouth casaubon. It's a shame, because it seems you have some intelligence in that head, but you're just blind by the Pope.

Sure he did. Sure. Howard King ring a bell? You have a confession of a ref claiming that Benfica paid prostitutes so he'd help them in an UEFA match.

As for Porto paying prostitutes? Not one smidgen of proof. And the Calheiros case of the 90s was PROVEN to have been a clerical error. But you benfiquistas just cling on to that little bit of hope that we just might be corrupt, right?

This is HILARIOUS. So the famous phone calls everyone heard at youtube, doesn't prove anything.. Sure, your president is a saint and an angel. If you really believe in that, then it's impossible for me to discuss ANYTHING with you. It will be like talking to a wall.
About Howard King, I will just say the same you said... PROVE IT...


Vale e Azevedo is a product of the megalomaniacal attitude of Benfica and Benfica supporters. You truly deserved him. Ah, before Vale e Azevedo you already had the Operação Coração. You know, when Benfica was forced to ask for public handouts, begging on the street basically. And LFV is a convicted criminal so shut the fuck up when talking about FC Porto.

No, Vale e Azevedo is a product of a corrupt country, full of opportunist people that don't have any morality or whatsoever. You just say it's a product of Benfica, because you hate us.. And you will keep hating as long as you keep bending your ass to your President, that year after year keeps inciting war against Lisbon.

And if LFV is a convicted criminal, then Pinto da Costa is one too, so shut the fuck up when talking about SL Benfica.

Fucking idiot :)

[Akuma]

Get a life. Or learn how to read.

Nice argument :) rofl
You get a life, and learn to watch football without blue glasses


Thats not possible. Think about it.

I vote this thread gets deleted. Its a total waste of valuable internet space.


I say the same about all your posts :)

Grow up, or make a thread about your club, and whine all you want. Leave the others alone, and stop excusing the fact that Jesualdo Ferreira is a mediocre coach, and Benfica was way better this year :D

Just like Lost finale, you guys have to move on already

[p0rt0b0y]

I say the same about all your posts :)

You really do need to learn to read properly. I didn't mention your posts at all. I was referring to this thread, which was not started by you.

Grow up, or make a thread about your club, and whine all you want. Leave the others alone, and stop excusing the fact that Jesualdo Ferreira is a mediocre coach, and Benfica was way better this year :D

I'm not that much of a wanker that i need to make a self congratulatory thread about my club. We win enough titles that i don't need to advertise the fact that we finally win something on internet boards.

If your scroll a bit further up, or summon up enough brain power to remember , you will see that i already admitted that Benfica were the best team this season. Your what's known as a bad winner. I guess your not used to the sensation, it happens pretty rarely for you.

Jesualdo may be a mediocre coach, but under his command Porto finished above Benfica every season apart from this last one. What does that say about Benfica?

Just like Lost finale, you guys have to move on already

Just like "Lost Finale" you make no sense. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[Akuma]

You really do need to learn to read properly. I didn't mention your posts at all. I was referring to this thread, which was not started by you.


I understood perfectly you were talking about the thread. I just said I felt the same about your posts, but more about casaubon lol


I'm not that much of a wanker that i need to make a self congratulatory thread about my club. We win enough titles that i don't need to advertise the fact that we finally win something on internet boards.

The thread was made BEFORE we win anything.. your point being...?

If your scroll a bit further up, or summon up enough brain power to remember , you will see that i already admitted that Benfica were the best team this season. Your what's known as a bad winner. I guess your not used to the sensation, it happens pretty rarely for you.


I'm not a bad winner, when Benfica wins, I do not care about other clubs, but there's always bad losers that can't keep their mouth shut, like you guys did on this thread :)

Jesualdo may be a mediocre coach, but under his command Porto finished above Benfica every season apart from this last one. What does that say about Benfica?


It says Benfica was totally shit the last years. Luis Filipe Vieira knows nothing of football, the last coach that I saw some potencial was Fernando Santos, and it was changed for Camacho.. I don't wanna talk about Quique at all, he just sucks.
You see, this is the difference. When Porto won the last years, Mourinho included, I can admit they were superior. I always found Jesualdo a mediocre coach because on the important games he keeps making up new tactics and get owned. He did almost the same points this year, that in the last 2. The big difference this year is that Braga and Benfica were a lot better.
You guys have the merit for the past titles, and even if we know Pinto da Costa was/is corrupt, I cannot take the merit of it, because you were better inside the field.

I'm only asking to all the non-Benfica fans to do the same, and get over the tunnels/hulk bullshit. Football is in general corrupt. Benfica did it in the past, Porto did it, heck even Sporting payed prostitutes to Howard King (his words). Some international referees said more than once that paying prostitutes to referee was a common act in some countries like Germany, Netherlands, etc.

Is it wrong? Yes very wrong.. but it's the way the human being works.. UEFA is not a saint, just like most of the country governments.

A football fan cannot be focused only on that this days, because that way we will always give excuses when the results don't satisfy us. We either watch the SPORT and ignore it, or we will be locked forever in those kinda irrelevant shit :\

Just like "Lost Finale" you make no sense. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Lost finale made sense, but only some could understand it :P

I am not embarrassing myself, and thank God you can at least give some arguments that we can both discuss, instead of the usual whining and insulting :) Congratulations for that

[nobuzz]

If you're just coming into this thread to cause shit stay the fuck out of it.

[Akuma]

Maybe you should delete the Porto fans comments since the beggining of the thread then... The ones with insults in portuguese, and this wouldn't happen ;)

Just my opinion

[casaubon]

Buh buh buh tunnels, Hulk, penalties, and red cards ;_; I cry a lot, and I am not ashamed of my corrupt president.. who am I? :D

nobuzz, why didnt you delete this shit, eh?

And then I'm the one stirring up shit. You seem to have been pretty meticulous in deleting certain posts but leaving others.

Anyway, I won't come back here.

[fcb_sandy05]

nobuzz, why didnt you delete this shit, eh?

And then I'm the one stirring up shit. You seem to have been pretty meticulous in deleting certain posts but leaving others.

Anyway, I won't come back here.
It is a Benfica thread after all. Start a Porto one for all I care.

PS: I'm moving this to the Portuguese Sub-Forum.

EDIT: He just deleted the latest posts coz we can't be arsed to go back from Page 1 to delete every idiotic post (most of which have been yours btw).

[Akuma]

It is a Benfica thread after all. Start a Porto one for all I care.

PS: I'm moving this to the Portuguese Sub-Forum.

EDIT: He just deleted the latest posts coz we can't be arsed to go back from Page 1 to delete every idiotic post (most of which have been yours btw).

Thank you!

[Wampyro]

Benfica players that start the pre-season in 28 of June


GK: Roberto (Ex-Atletico Madrid for 8.5M€)
Moreira
Júlio César
Oblak

RB: Luis Filipe

LB: César Peixoto

CD: David Luiz
Sidnei
Fábio Faria (Ex-Rio Ave for 1.5M€)
Miguel Vitor

DM: Javi Garcia
Airton

RM: Menezes e Balboa

LM: Gaitán (ex - Boca Juniors for 5.5M€)
OM: Aimar
Carlos Martins

Forwards: Saviola
Jara ( Ex - Arsenal Sarandi for 3M€)
Weldon
Éder Luiz

Strikers: Kardec
Nuno Gomes



Internacional Arives - Dates:
RB - Maxi Pereira - 2 August
CB - Halliche - Transfer list
CB - Luisão - 24 July
LB - Coentrão - 24 July
CM - Yebda - Transfer list
CM - Ramires - 24 July
RB/RM - Amorim - 15 July
LM - Di Maria - (Sold to Real Madrid for 25M€ plus 11M€ in objectives)
Striker - Cardozo - 24 July

[Wampyro]

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[casaubon]

Ha ha ha!!!

[deviant]

lol I seriously came looking for this thread to see ur comments casaubon

[casaubon]

I repeat:

hahahahaha!!! :D

[p0rt0b0y]

Wow, its awful quiet in this thread this season......I wonder what the problem is? ;) I'm sorry i just couldn't help myself. I apologize. Five times :D

[Akuma]

So funny :)

And then you talk crap about Benfica fans.. Start your thread and then die IRL :D

[thisisoverlord!]

I repeat:

hahahahaha!!! :D

Casaubon, true FBTZ legend!

http://www.sinnacle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/mourinho-benfica.gif

Be Champions!

Look forward to meeting either of these two historic Portuguese teams in the Europa... if we make it :)

[casaubon]

Ah shaddup!

[casaubon]

Hahahahahaahah

chupa!!!!

[casaubon]

*tumbleweed*

[jimmy]

was always going to be hard for our beloved benfica after the loss of players with who we grew, as a nation, to cherish and idolize as one.

bring on next season. the wrongs of this season cannot be undone, unfortunately, however there is still hope that justice shall be restored next season

chupa!

[casaubon]

A year later and Porto is still champion. The quality of our football was below par, we weren't as exciting as usual but the climb to the top was great.

Mid February we were 5 points behind Benfica and 3 games away from having to play on their ground. We arrived at their stadium on par and won the match placing ourselves 3 points clear. :D

We then won away to Braga in what was a very difficult match, so all in all when push came to shove we proved that we have the stuff champions are made of.

:D

[Glorioso]

You do indeed, plenty of café com leite, fruta, quinhentinhos, etc... Grats for corruption?

[weequeg]

You do indeed, plenty of café com leite, fruta, quinhentinhos, etc... Grats for corruption?

ooh you're gonna get it now bud

[thisisoverlord!]

You do indeed, plenty of café com leite, fruta, quinhentinhos, etc... Grats for corruption?

Corruption lol this from a team who seems to always enter a game with the other teams best players on red cards from the week before...

Benfica fans talking about corruption is hilarious.

[bijitaq]

You can't be that stupid.