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The Rock
08-04-2006, 05:30 PM
Not that I had any doubts, but now Actim has confirmed it. The pole position was occupied by Frank Lampard for a loong loong time, but Ruud van Nistelrooy grabbed it even after being left out of the starting XI in the recent matches. The rating will change with time, but I don't think Ruud will move out of the top 2 positions, which have been help by Lampard and himself, since the beginning.




What is Actim?

Actim is the brand name for the official data of the FA Premier League, The Football League and the Scottish Premier League. The data is used to produce Actim Stats. Actim Stats are a collection of team, player and match statistics. They are derived from all the actions that take place during a match, including goals, shots on target, corners, fouls, offsides, passes, tackles, blocks and clearances. The raw data can be used to generate a wide range of tables and statistics such as player profiles, team and player head to heads and form guides. Actim Stats are produced by PA Sport, part of The Press Association, on behalf of Football DataCo.


How are Actim Stats collected?

PA Sport gathers match data for every Barclays Premiership, Coca-Cola Football League and Bank of Scotland Premiership game. The data is gathered by two methods - real-time match analysis and the study of video footage. The real-time analysis is conducted by ex-professional footballers who report on action at the grounds as it happens. More detailed analysis is obtained by studying videos of the matches.


What is the Actim Index?

The Actim Index is the official player rating system of the Barclays Premiership and Coca-Cola Championship. It was introduced for the 2004/05 season and was devised by statisticians at the University of Salford in partnership with PA Sport.


What is the purpose of the Actim Index?

It identifies the players who make key contributions.
It allows players to be ranked against each other at random or using such criteria as playing position, nationality, age, or geographical location of their team.
It highlights the key players in a league or team.
It shows the form of a player or team.
Individual player/team performances can be scientifically analysed over a season or period of time within a season.
It provides fans with the knowledge of who is the best.


How accurate is the Actim Index?

The calculations are based on the four key factors that contribute to a player's effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches. The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the Premiership in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player's effectiveness in winning matches.


How is the Actim Index calculated?

Complex mathematical formulae were devised to calculate the value of each player's contribution, match by match. In simple terms, the Actim Index comprises four calculations:
Calculation 1 - Assesses a player's contribution to a winning team, based on points won by the team when he appeared.
Calculation 2 - Assesses a player's performance in each game, by allocating points for actions that positively contribute to a winning performance such as shots, tackles, clearances and saves. It also takes points away from players for negative actions such as yellow/red cards and shots off target.
Calculation 3 - Allocates points based on time of the pitch.
Calculation 4 - Allocates points for goal scorers.

Neviem
08-04-2006, 05:33 PM
ACTIM stats is not Holy Bible. It is just for statistic maniacs I dont think it is something reliable, it is just exact summary. It is difference if you "pass" and pass, you know..if you pass perfect ball for 40 yards or just pass back to defender...so it doesnt tell much to me...just think- according ACTIM Fletcher and Silvestre are one of united best players this season. do you think so?:D

The Rock
08-04-2006, 05:38 PM
ACTIM stats is not Holy Bible. It is just for statistic maniacs I dont think it is something reliable, it is just exact summary. It is difference if you "pass" and pass, you know..if you pass perfect ball for 40 yards or just pass back to defender...so it doesnt tell much to me...just think- according ACTIM Fletcher and Silvestre are one of united best players this season. do you think so?:D


:eek: I don't see them there in the top 30.

Neviem
08-04-2006, 05:42 PM
e.g. O'Shea is 14th best player of the PL this season, Silvestre 34th, Fletcher 62th...

The Rock
08-04-2006, 05:46 PM
O'Shea has been good lately. The whole team was injured apart from these 3 fools. So they couldn't perform, and naturally these 3 stooges came up. But Ferdinand, Ruud, Rooney, Edwin van Der Sar are up there. I'm not sure why Giggs is so below though.

moymatt
08-04-2006, 05:48 PM
The biggest problem with the stats is trying to compare forwards midfielders defenders and goalies all in one score. There are other issues two where a great pass and a back pass have equal weight but I doubt someone's gonna watch every game and count the number of perfectly threaded passes and back passes.

Cantona7
08-04-2006, 05:48 PM
nice work Rock does not suprise us though does it .....u dont do things by half mate do you ?? ;)

KurtAngle
08-04-2006, 05:53 PM
henry will be up there by tommo!

The Rock
08-04-2006, 05:55 PM
The biggest problem with the stats is trying to compare forwards midfielders defenders and goalies all in one score. There are other issues two where a great pass and a back pass have equal weight but I doubt someone's gonna watch every game and count the number of perfectly threaded passes and back passes.

Apparently, they do.



henry will be up there by tommo!

Henry is a cool ONE POINT behind. :D.

fshroyer
08-04-2006, 05:57 PM
Yes, this seems super accurate, I mean....Rio is definitely better than the best defender in england (John Terry)

Nah, just joking, it is interesting to see who they do rate up there. Thanks, i'd never seen this before

The Rock
08-04-2006, 06:00 PM
Yes, this seems super accurate, I mean....Rio is definitely better than the best defender in england (John Terry)

Terry is not the best defender. Look at the Mid-field he had. Makelele is equal to three CDM's. And look at what Ferdinand had.

eraser2224
08-04-2006, 06:00 PM
o'shea has been great recently. playing every game this season out of position and united have won 8 straight games. yes, he is not a flair player and misplaces some passes, but he is a defender not a midfielder.

The Rock
08-04-2006, 06:03 PM
o'shea has been great recently. playing every game this season out of position and united have won 8 straight games. yes, he is not a flair player and misplaces some passes, but he is a defender not a midfielder.


Exactly as I said above. He has been in a good nick recently. The key fact is the ha played out of positions. Apart from CB, he has done good, and as a CDM he has done more than good. (Better than Smith, though I like Smith more than O'Shea)

kidujp
08-04-2006, 06:58 PM
Why is Rio Ferdinanad in 5th. there has to be some mistake.
I agree with RvN ...lampard is playing useless for the last couple of months.

nazu23
09-04-2006, 01:11 AM
is that statistic a joke or something? why is kevin nolan so low? and o'shea at 16? where's kolo toure? off to africa?

seriously lampard scored goals bcos he took a lots of shots. and i mean A LOT!!!

he's like the epl version of nba's kobe bryant. did the statistics count the times people miss shots too? bcos last season he missed more than arsenal hit the post and by statistics the team that hit the post the most was arsenal (heh and i think they still scored the most goal last term)

if they count the statistics like nba's efficiency points lampard would be a joke

Joelzinho
09-04-2006, 02:56 AM
Statistics dont tell everything...they definitly tell something but clearly not everything.

Ruud aint number one...Mr.Number one is the man dancing in my sig.

The Rock
09-04-2006, 09:30 AM
Statistics dont tell everything...they definitly tell something but clearly not everything.

Ruud aint number one...Mr.Number one is the man dancing in my sig.


Hey, I can't be a 100 watts bulb right now, so please take your moth somewhere else if you don't know what's going on. :)

stcronaldo
11-04-2006, 12:42 PM
any stupid statistic that puts RVN as top has got to be faulty

RVN should be top of a table of 'ugliest horseface in EPL'

fanutd
11-04-2006, 12:50 PM
any stupid statistic that puts RVN as top has got to be faulty

RVN should be top of a table of 'ugliest horseface in EPL'

and you should in the top 10 list of "People who are in Denial"

BuLLsEye
11-04-2006, 01:09 PM
Rooney deserve to 1 st place I think. Lampard WAS very usefull, but now, his form is falling down in dangerous speed. Rio Ferdinand showed in match against Arsenal, that He is the best EPL central Defender. I don't know, why they didn't set in this list Ryan Giggs...Egg Head from Arsenal showed on Sunday what kind of player he is. During 25 minutes he got the ball about three times (include very "nice" free-kick) well, Rio Ferdinand and Vidic doubted him:) Where is Gary Neville? hmm....

Polarized
11-04-2006, 01:36 PM
finnan 11th, makelele down at 29th and alonso didnt even make the list?

booo! that system needs some fixing :P

where's kolo toure?

stcronaldo
12-04-2006, 07:32 AM
yea i think the guy who created the thread probably looked at all these different stat tables until he found one with RVN on top

all these man utd fans are so sickening, so subjective

fshroyer
12-04-2006, 05:45 PM
Maybe if we placed the entire Manchester United team at the top of the list, then it would be more close to being correct ;)

Cantona7
12-04-2006, 05:50 PM
Maybe if we placed the entire Manchester United team at the top of the list, then it would be more close to being correct ;)

yea i think the guy who created the thread probably looked at all these different stat tables until he found one with RVN on top

all these man utd fans are so sickening, so subjective



Zzzzzzzz stop whining the pair of you....he quoted some stats...whats the big deal ?? :confused:

opm1s6
12-04-2006, 05:58 PM
what is the time horizon on this? is it per month or for the entire year. how do they compensate for number fo games discrepencies?


yea i think the guy who created the thread probably looked at all these different stat tables until he found one with RVN on top

all these man utd fans are so sickening, so subjective


excuse me! who's subjective?

The Rock
12-04-2006, 07:23 PM
any stupid statistic that puts RVN as top has got to be faulty

RVN should be top of a table of 'ugliest horseface in EPL'


I don't know what makes you so stupid, but it really works!! And I don't want you to turn the other cheek. It's just as ugly.

Yusuf
12-04-2006, 07:26 PM
ACTIM is not very reliable... Wayne rooney on 13th... enough said.