The Booooooooooooooooooooca Jrs Thread V.2 **SPOILERS** [Archive]

Xyrus

13-04-2006, 03:55 AM

"Cata" is back

http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/fotos/DIAZ2(tapa).jpg

Boca’s defender complied with the one round-off sanction slapped on him for having been sent off against Banfield, after stopping with his hand a header which was on course into Boca’s net. The ensuing penalty shot went in and gave Banfield its goal, but Boca ended up by celebtaring Ibarra’s goal.

The man from Catamarca sustained a dialogue with the sportsnewspaper Olé regarding the hard fight for first place in the standings which is ahead against River.

"It doesn’t matter which team you have as a partner at the top. One’s only concern should be to win the largest possible number of points between now and the end of the tournament and waste no time in looking at who is fighting against you” he stated.

Anyhow, he acknowledged that the great rivalry existing between the present two tournament leaders turns the fight into something special: “A look at the standings and to see who the two leaders are makes the championship nicer for the fans”

Besides, he considered that to play for the title against River makes the fight more even, due to the level of both teams. “On account of the number of players each team has, and the possibility to make substitutions among them. Boca and River are the two teams with the largest availability of good players in today’s Argentine soccer. This makes for a more balanced competition”.

"The tournament is very even. Anybody can beat anybody else. We’re doing fine,we know that we have five matches ahead, everyone of which must be considered to be a final, and that we can’t let up if we want to celebrate the final victory by running around the field”, he concluded.

http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/english/notacompleta.cfm?id=7384
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Guess that answers my question. Glad he's back Díaz is a solid defender. Our back four this season are absolutely top notch, probably the best defensive line in the league. Very few mistakes, and the wing-backs (Ibarra and Krupo) are great at playing on the flanks. And they're in perfect sync on offside traps. Good stuff.

Vip

13-04-2006, 04:37 AM

Don't know about Insua and la Cata coming back for the Arsenal game, but Palacios just seems to get better at the end of the season. Remember last year, the last games, he was just crusing by the other teams defenders. And the game against Banfield, that was just classic Boca.
I wonder why there has always been a bigger following in the River thread compared to the Boca thread here at Maxxed. Just wondering, doesn't seem right.

Both Cata and Insua will be back. :)

As to the following ... we are 1/2 + 1 ... so show up around this thread often enuff. ;)

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Xyrus

15-04-2006, 11:24 PM

NEXT MATCH

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7271/bocajuniors2wo.gif vs http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8233/arsenaldesarandi0sg.gif

Opponent: Arsenal de Sarandí
Competition: Torneo Clausura de Argentina (Fecha 15)
Date: 16 April 2006, 18:30
Referee: Rafael Furchi
Venue: Estadio Alberto J. Armando (La Bombonera)

Probable Starting Lineup:

Palermo----Palacio

Insúa

Bilos/Cardozo----Gago----Ledesma

Ibarra----Silvestre----Díaz----Krupoviesa

Abbondanzieri

I like Bilos but I hope Cardozo plays. I saw him against Colón, he was fantastic in the first half. He nutmegged two people, it was hilarious. Insúa is back, as well as Díaz so whatever stability may have been lost against Colón will hopefully return, since Arsenal are dangerous. This would be a great win, especially because we need to get Newell's off our backs. San Lorenzo host River, and with any luck that game will be a draw so Boca will be in first place without River right beside.

Vip

17-04-2006, 01:03 AM

Boca beat Arsenal 1-0 this afternoon (Palermo), while River was lucky to earn a point in their goal less draw at San Lorenzo.

With this ... Boca is the sole leader of the Argentinian tournament with 4 games to go:

Boca 31 :D :D :D
River 29
Newell's 28
Lanus 27
Gimnasia (J) 26
Gimnasia (LP) 25
Velez 23

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/17/portada.jpg

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Xyrus

18-04-2006, 03:44 AM

BOCA CAMPEON!!!! :D

Nah, not quite yet. Four games left, hopefully they all go our way and River continue to mess up here and there.

Here's a Spanish interview with Krupo, who has been performing really well and very consistently this season IMO. For those who can understand Spanish, it's a pretty good one. But practically any interview with a Boca player is a good one. :p

Pone lo que hay que poner

Krupoviesa, un lateral a la medida de Boca, habló con ESPNdeportes.com

http://espndeportes-att.espn.go.com/2003/photos2006/0417/a_krupo_412x232.jpg

BUENOS AIRES (ESPNdeportes.com) -- Se sabe que la gente de Boca aplaude de la misma manera a un jugador que mete un caño, un taco o un sombrero que a otro que se tira al piso y corre cincuenta metros para recuperar una pelota. Así es la esencia del hincha "xeneize", que idolatra por igual a futbolistas dotados como Riquelme o Rojitas y a otros más rústicos como Serna o Giunta.

¿Cómo no va a reconocer, entonces, a un tipo que con el fin de alejar el peligro de su arco pone la cabeza sobre el pie de un rival para trabar el remate? Es el caso de Juan Krupoviesa, lateral izquierdo de Boca, uno de los titulares que se conocen de memoria en el equipo de Alfio Basile.

El domingo, "Krupo" cumplió 27 años. Y aunque los hinchas no le cantaron el feliz cumpleaños como alguna vez lo hicieron con Diego Armando Maradona, se fue muy feliz de "La Bombonera". No sólo porque metió dos "caños", algo poco habitual en un jugador de sus características, sino porque un centro suyo le dio a Palermo la chance de conectar de cabeza y marcar el único tanto del partido contra Arsenal, el que le permitió a Boca, a cuatro fechas del final, quedar como único líder del campeonato con dos puntos de ventaja sobre River.

- No es la primera vez que un centro tuyo termina en gol de Palermo. ¿Te querés convertir en el reemplazante de Barros Schelotto?
- (Risas) No, Guille es único, el le dio muchas más asistencias y le hizo convertir muchos más goles que yo. Trato de hacer lo que me pide el entrenador, y a medida que pasan los partidos y nos vamos conociendo más las cosas salen mejor.

- Para ustedes es un punto de referencia dentro del área...
- Sí, seguro. Sabemos que Martín en el área te mata. El siempre espera los centros y se ubica muy bien entre los defensores. Yo trato de tirárselos al segundo palo.

- Da la sensación que en este torneo no pudieron mantener el mismo nivel de juego que lograron en el Apertura. ¿Lo ves así?
- Creo que son momentos. Tal vez en varios partidos de este Clausura no tuvimos la regularidad del torneo pasado. Dejamos en el camino puntos importantes que en otro momento no se nos hubieran escapado. Pero pese a todo estamos en lo más alto de la tabla, que es lo que buscamos.

Fotobaires.com
Krupoviesa y Ortiz, ex compañeros

BOMBA TUCUMANA
Llegó a Boca en agosto de 2005, por casi dos millones de dólares, precedido por elogios al por mayor. "Mostaza" Merlo, quien en ese momento era su entrenador en Estudiantes, había declarado que "Krupoviesa es jugador de selección. En la Argentina ningún club puede pagar lo que vale. Tiene destino europeo". También Basile lo tenía en la mira y Maradona lo quería para el armado del nuevo "Dream Team".

Hasta pasar a Boca, había realizado toda su campaña en Estudiantes (110 partidos, seis goles). Llegó a La Plata a los 16 años proveniente de Tucumán Central, el club que estaba enfrente de su casa y para el que jugaba la Liga local. "En esa época era lateral y volante. Pero en Estudiantes "Cacho" Malbernat me puso de tres, me dio muchos consejos porque era el puesto que él había ocupado cuando jugaba", le contó el defensor a ESPNdeportes.com.

La Plata se convirtió en su segundo hogar. Allí vive todavía, con su esposa Ana, hincha de Estudiantes, por supuesto, y su hijo Faustino, de un año y 10 meses. "¿Si me costó adaptarme a Boca? Sí, es otro mundo. Pero por suerte la gente siempre me apoyó. Es muy exigente, y siempre te pide más, se hace sentir. Acá tenés que ganar todo. Pero el público valora mucho la entrega y lo que uno deja en cada partido".

Krupoviesa pelea el puesto con Claudio Morel Rodríguez y José María Calvo, pero en el "equipo de memoria" del "Coco" el tucumano es titular indiscutido. De características diferentes a Morel y al "Pampa", Krupoviesa es pura potencia y entrega. Tiene buena pegada y no duda en jugarse la vida en cada pelota. "La peleo como si fuera la última", reconoce (ante cualquier duda, ver el video del último clásico entre Boca-River o consultar a Daniel Montenegro).

- ¿Les da tranquilidad que Basile repita el equipo todos los partidos?
-Son maneras de trabajar. Cada entrenador tiene su forma de hacerlo. De todas maneras nadie se relaja por eso, hay que matarse en cada entrenamiento para demostrar que uno está para ser titular.

- Faltan cuatro fechas y llevan dos puntos de ventaja, ¿se sienten campeones?
- Vamos por el buen camino. Dependemos de nosotros, pero de ahora en adelante tenemos todas finales. Ahora viene Vélez de visitante, un equipo durísimo. También tenemos a Independiente en Avellaneda, a Olimpo que pelea por el descenso... Va a ser difícil, pero podemos repetir el título.

Fabio Dana es periodista deportivo desde 1995. Trabajó como redactor en el Diario Deportivo Olé de Buenos Aires entre 1996 y 2002. Estuvo en la cobertura de dos Juegos Panamericanos: Mar del Plata 95 y Winnipeg 99. Actualmente es redactor del diario Clarín de Buenos Aires y columnista de ESPNdeportes.com. Consulta su archivo de columnas.

Vip

23-04-2006, 04:11 AM

The team against Velez tomorrow should be the same that has been playing lately ... Battaglia is not yet ready to start.

Abbondanzieri
Ibarra - Silvestre - Diaz - Krupoviesa
Gago
Ledesma - ---------------- Bilos
Insua
Palacio - Palermo

Newells tied 1-1 at home tonite with San Lorenzo and stayed 2 points behind Boca. Lanus beat Colon 3-1 in Santa Fe to move within 1 point of Boca.

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Xyrus

23-04-2006, 03:47 PM

It's a tight race and we can't afford to drop points, which is a rather tall order when the opponent is Vélez. But I expect a victory. The game will be on CCTV-5 this afternoon.

edit: Damn it, down 1-0 already, it's only the 11th minute.

This is a fantastic game to watch though. Insúa had a deliberate, awesome panna that drew an "Ooooolé!" from the crowd. :p Palacio just had a chance in the box, he turned and rammed it towards goal but the keeper parried.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL PALERMO!!!! Everyone's arguing about the offsides, to be honest I think he was offsides but it looks like the goal will stand.

Oh there's the replay, he was just onsides I think. Very close though.

Vip

23-04-2006, 10:35 PM

In a very controversial game that was suspended in the 43rd minute of the 2nd half, Boca beats Velez 3-2.

It was a very intense game, between the last 2 Argentinian champs and perhaps the best 2 teams in the league.

As to Boca's first goal. The pass to Palermo is a flick from a defender ... there is no offside. This was the 1-1.

Afterwards, Velez goalie Sessa was injured when a corner was played. Referee Pessota stopped the corner when the ball is the air, out of which Boca's Silvestre is accidentally kicked in the head. Silvestre is assisted in the field but is not asked to leave the field as the referee had already authorized assistance for Sessa. Out of the repeat corner, Silvestre scores.

In the 2nd half, Boca was stting the pace of the game ... but out of a free kick in Velez' area, a counter ends in the 2-2. Velez had arrived perhaps 3 times to Boca's area, and scored twice.

In the 42nd minute of the 2nd half, Gago is fouled after he had handled the ball a bit too long. Questionable foul called in favor of Boca. Just before the free kick is taken, Ledesma and a Velez player get in an argument and forcing, the linesman raises his flag and leaves it up ... the ref doesn't notice, the free kick is taken, it bounces off the wall and then the ref looks to his linesman and sees the raised flag. After consulting with the linesman, Pessota gives a yellow to both players and orders to repeat the free kick. Diaz shoots again, the ball bouncs of Sessa and Bilos scores (the ball is cleared passed the goal line).

Velez fans are upset, and start throwing objects to the linesman, one of which hits him in the head. Pessota orders the suspension of the game in the 44th minute and Velez' fans keep throwing all kinds of objects to the field, to the police trying to leave the space between the two fan crowds separated. Policemen hit by objects ... bleeding.

Shameful ending to a good and intense game.

Dale Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo. :D

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Xyrus

23-04-2006, 10:45 PM

Yeah it was a fantastic game, shame it had to end that way. Did you see that policeman who had blood all over the left side of his face because someone had hit him with a chair or something? Awful.

The game itself was thrilling though. Palacio missed an absolutely golden chance when he put way too much power into a lob and cleared the crossbar instead of just the keeper. He also had another great chance in the box when he lost his marker but then he waited too long and got robbed. Insúa had a pretty good game I think, and his ball control was awesome today; there were glimpses of something special. Morel came in later and actually had one solid minute of absolute brilliance when he stole the ball from two or three different people and then somehow hung onto it while he was on the ground and cleared it. Cardozo was great, as was Gago. Vélez's second goal was genius from the player who scored it, though Pato should probably have got a hand to it.

But it's great that we didn't give anyone a chance to catch up.

Vip

24-04-2006, 02:13 AM

Xyrus

30-04-2006, 10:15 PM

BOOOOOOOOOCA CAMPEON!!!!!

GOOOOL DE INSÚA!
GOOOOL DE PALACIO!
GOOOOL DE INSÚA!
GOOOOL DE GUILLE!

BOCA 4-0 ESTUDIANTES!

http://www.ole.com.ar/diario/2006/04/30/um/boca_tapa.jpg

DAAAAAAALE BOOOOOOOOO!!! DAAAALEEE BOOOO!

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/30/um/fotos/boca.jpg

saurabh

30-04-2006, 10:18 PM

Congratulations! Certainly its the "El Diego Effect". :)

Xyrus

30-04-2006, 10:40 PM

Actually, it's not won yet. I was prematurely celebrating. :D

We still have to beat Independiente, and THEN the celebrations come out. But Independiente unfortunately won't even have Aguero playing for them because he's suspended, so it's practically a done deal. :D

Vip

01-05-2006, 05:18 AM

And one afternoon Battaglia was back. And Boca recovered the ball control in midfield. Even Bilos raised his game.

Boca rolled over Estudiantes, categorically. Probably the best performance in the Clausura. Leaded by Insua and Palacio, from the middle up Boca was unstoppable. In the back there were a few gaps ... but lets not forget 2 out of the 4 starters were suspended.

With 6 points to play, Boca mantains the 4 point lead over the 2nd best team, Lanus. 3 points away from being crowned champs once again.

Basile is coaching his 4th trophy at Boca ... and should be winning his 4th. Undisputable achievement, nonetheless no one really knows if he will continue next season. In case Basile decides to step aside, Miguel Angel Russo, Velez' coach, is the favorite to replace him. The chemsitry between Basile and th core fans hasn't really blended.

Lets wait a couple weeks. I would like to see Russo become Boca's coach. He is a great professional who gives lots of emphasis to the youngsters. And playing both cups in the next 12 months, Boca needs a coach that can rotate players and discover young gems. Forget about that with Basile. If not look at the squads he lined last semester. The same 11 thru out the Sudamericana and the Apertura.

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malicia

01-05-2006, 06:19 AM

Ok, so I feel dirty stopping in here but...:p
I caught Insua's goal on TV when I was looking for another game. And I'm mature enough to praise gorgeous football when I see it.

Does anyone have a clip of that goal? The taconazo? After the nice Palacio cross. I wonder how long Palacio is going to be on this side of the pond.

Vip

02-05-2006, 08:20 AM

The dates for the Recopa against Sao Paulo are out:

September 6th in Bs As
September 13 in Sao Paulo

Like last year, Boca will end up the series away from home. :rolleyes:

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saurabh

02-05-2006, 01:50 PM

Boca will win. :)

west501

06-05-2006, 05:57 PM

if you'll allow me to sneak in here, I quite enjoyed this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4980104.stm)
for anyone who wonders about the pervasiveness of football in argentine life, let them note that a lifetime is not enough
that's right, football has passed into another realm

Vip

07-05-2006, 04:25 AM

Lanus tied 0-0 at Velez today and is 3 points away from Boca.

Tomorrow against Independiente, wth a tie ... Boca is BI-CAMPEON!!! :D :D :D

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Vip

08-05-2006, 04:41 PM

Well what the heck. I know you shouldn't post twice in a row, but on one side, I will like to add to THIS THREAD the celebrations of yet another title by Boca ...

Boca visited Independiente and won 2-0 ... solid performance of a very solid team. Once again Palacio was the MoM ... but the performances of Gago and Silvestre were also outstanding in a high production of the entire team.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/08/portada.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/08/fotos/f004gh07.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/08/fotos/f008gh07.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/08/fotos/f007gh08.jpg

Boca has played four tournaments since Basile took over as coach:
Recopa Sudamericana - Champions
Apertura 05 - Champions
Copa Sudamericana 05 - Champions
Clausura 06 - Champions

Even the summer friendly tournament was won. Since the year 2000, Boca has won a total of 12 tournaments. From local tournaments to South American Cups (all) to Intercontinental cups. ALL the other Argentinian teams have, combined, won 11 titles in that same period ... between national and international. For those of you searching for River ... they won 4 local and no international. ;) Any doubts who is by far the best team? :cool:

Just as a little anecdote ... in the world stage, only Bayern has won more titles in this milenium, 13 ... Celtic won 10, Rangers 9 and Real Madrid 8. Had we beat Bayern in that Intercontinental match in 2001. :mad: XD

http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/images/clausura_2006_wall800.jpg
Note: It reads ... "It is not the athletic track ... tired of so many title celebrations. Boca back to back Argentinian Champs." This also sacrcastically refers to River's stadium and their athletic track that surrounds their field ... which in Boca's President, Mauricio Macri, words makes it a cold stadium. These posters are put up all over Bs As and forms part of Argentinian football folklore of making fun of their arch rivals. Problem for River is that this milenium is Boca's. Please read up there ^^^ to know the differences in titles. :D

Cheers peeps. Life is a celebration being blue & yellow. :D

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Juan_ma

09-05-2006, 03:55 PM

wallpapers, get your wallpapers :D :cool:

1024x768
http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/images/clausura_2006_wall1024.jpg

800x600
http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/images/clausura_2006_wall800.jpg

tonymontagne

11-05-2006, 09:59 PM

Vip

12-05-2006, 06:16 AM

Beautiful to see, yet again, boca as champions.
Once again there were doubts initally but they still proved that they are the best team in argentina, if not the world as vip mentions. :D

In the last rounds of the tournament Boca became unbeatable and none of the others could keep up with them. Palacios was brilliant, and also Gago, but one has to be fair to the performance of the whole team, they were great. Thanks vip for keeping us up to the date with news and pics.

It is remarkable what el coco basile has done with boca, 4 tournies, 4 championships, it is too bad that the boca fans dont seem to like him, and his future might be doubtful because of that. strange thing when you win and you dont get the deserved credit.

To all the boca fans, enjoy another vuelta.:)

Thanx TM :D ... I want to add that the bus where you see the players celebrating is one of those open buses as used in Europe. It is the first time that an Argentinian team uses one to celebrate a title ... the players and coach were going nuts touring in it in their way to the Bombonera.

This is a new souvenir ... http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/12/fotos/f020dh05.jpg :D

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chauchey

12-05-2006, 06:24 AM

I was really impressed with their preformances, from right around their Super Classico against River(and WHAT a SC that was!! :eek: )till the end of the tourney when they clinched it all. Great hard work. They just seemed to find ways to win, instead of finding ways to loose. The mark of a champion!

ghie

12-05-2006, 07:38 AM

chivas 4 boca 0
hahahah
remmember"

Vip

12-05-2006, 07:50 AM

chivas 4 boca 0
hahahah
remmember"

Yep ... I remember. Celebrating that after a year makes me believe Chivas is a "small" team. Why not talk about tonite? (http://espanol.sports.yahoo.com/060512/4/1axvg.html) Sigan participando. :D

PS: Correct your info on your favorite players ... it ain't TELVEZ ... it's Tevez.

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Juan_ma

12-05-2006, 05:40 PM

It is remarkable what el coco basile has done with boca, 4 tournies, 4 championships, it is too bad that the boca fans dont seem to like him, and his future might be doubtful because of that. strange thing when you win and you dont get the deserved credit.

It's only a matter of time. Bianchi wasn't "adored" as soon as he came in either.

The Copa Libertadores will be the decisive one. If el coco wins it with Boca (which I'm sure it'll happen :D), I'm sure the Boca faithful will finally acknowledge his achievements. It's just that the Copa is such big accomplishment than the local championship. It's a passion. La 12 will surely recognize him after that.

The Copa Libertadores will be Key IMO.

Vip

13-05-2006, 04:53 AM

Now, you can keep singing and supporting your team even after death ... the Boca fan cementary. :)

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/12/fotos/f024dh06.jpg

http://www.ole.com.ar/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1193957

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Vip

15-05-2006, 06:53 AM

Some pictures of the title celebration at home vs Olimpo (2-0) in the last Round of the Clausura. Boca ended winning the tournament by an 8 points margin. It was once again a PARTY. :D

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/14/um/fotos/boca_ole.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/15/thumb/f004gh01.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/15/thumb/f005gh04.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/15/thumb/f010gh01.jpg
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/05/15/thumb/f008gh01.jpg

Congratulations to all the fans. :D

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LDOUBLEU

24-05-2006, 12:39 AM

hi , i love boca , and gago , i was wondering have you got any gago clips .

thanks much apriciated

OLE BOCA!

Vip

05-06-2006, 05:13 AM

There are a few offers for Insua, but Pocho doesn't want to leave the club and dreams of playing the Libertadores '07.

The player that might leave, if Insua stays, is Bilos (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1208240). There are offers from Spain, England and Mexico for him.

Also, Colombian Vargas (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1208242) will most probably end up leaving to Mexico's Pumas.

The intention of the Bilos sale is to finance keeping Belluschi, moreso now that Pasarella has declared he is important for River. :p

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Mugabi

25-06-2006, 09:47 AM

Bilos has been sold to Saint Etienne. Yesterday, Macri closed a deal for 1.800.000 euros... God willing, Insua will remain with us. In addition, Banfield's OMF Jesus Datolo has been signed and Fernando Belluschi, if nothing happens should be going to Casa Amarilla to sign his contract on July 1st. Also, Kily Gonzalez is kinda close to return to the team.

capo

04-07-2006, 07:02 AM

So it looks as though the unfortunate is happening - El Pocho is leaving to Borussia :mad: really hard to say goodbye to players of his calibre especially when they want to remain with the team, but it looks like Boca is a seller this year. I really was hoping he would stay, he had an amazing season and blended in very fast, he's leaving us with great memories. I wonder if after his performance at Mundial, Pato will attract interest from clubs again?! To loose Pocho and Pato at once would be just devastating. Anyone hear anything about Veron, I heard he said no to inter and wants to come back play in Argentina. Knowing how Diego feels about him and departure of Insua could this mean Veron in?

Vip

06-07-2006, 06:45 AM

capo

07-07-2006, 08:36 PM

No m8 ... Veron has signed with his forming team, Estudiantes.

Bilos and Insua are gone ... Datolo and Beluschi should arrive, even thou they haven't yet. And Pato will probably leave, but Boca has got a hand on Paraguay/Libertad's Bobadilla ... EX-CE-LLENT goalie. :D
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Man I dont know what the hell our bosses are thinking it seems as though we are lossing everybody and not gaining much (well except for the money of course). Do you hear any rumours of who we might bring in as it's pretty much chau now to Belluschi??? Yeah, Bobadilla had a great Mundial, so hopefully he can continue playing on high level plus he already has Argentine experience so thumbs up!!!

Oh and Vip comon man we gotta keep our bostero dominance and overshadow that ugly river thread which somehow got more posts...that's not good not good at all!!! :D

Vip

08-07-2006, 12:11 AM

Man I dont know what the hell our bosses are thinking it seems as though we are lossing everybody and not gaining much (well except for the money of course). Do you hear any rumours of who we might bring in as it's pretty much chau now to Belluschi??? Yeah, Bobadilla had a great Mundial, so hopefully he can continue playing on high level plus he already has Argentine experience so thumbs up!!!

Oh and Vip comon man we gotta keep our bostero dominance and overshadow that ugly river thread which somehow got more posts...that's not good not good at all!!! :D

Don't worry m8. At the end, Boca wanted to sell Belluschi to River or abroad ... this was just a BIG cloud to bluf River and make them pay 5 million Euros for a player that ends up in the hands of some intermediaries, who will probably sell him in December. ;)

This morning it seemed that Datolo's transfer had stalled, but Kily is closer. I'd rather have Kily to be honest ... experience and is perfect for the left side of the mid.

With the $$s made on Belluschi, Insua and Bilos, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone else arriving.

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capo

08-07-2006, 06:43 AM

Don't worry m8. At the end, Boca wanted to sell Belluschi to River or abroad ... this was just a BIG cloud to bluf River and make them pay 5 million Euros for a player that ends up in the hands of some intermediaries, who will probably sell him in December. ;)

This morning it seemed that Datolo's transfer had stalled, but Kily is closer. I'd rather have Kily to be honest ... experience and is perfect for the left side of the mid.

With the $$s made on Belluschi, Insua and Bilos, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone else arriving.
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I bet that is very close to the truth looking at how quickly gallinas took the bait. And seeing Passarella all jumping and happy thinking he got the better out of that deal is just entertainingly funny. I read a good article on Olé today and I gotta admit it cheered me up if you haven't seen it yet - http://old.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1229821&fecha=20060707

Kily is a class act and I believe he would be just as good maybe even better as Bilos no matter the difference in age, but it's really up to him now if he wants money he will probably stay in Europe if he wants to finish his career at home welcome back to Boca.

It's all good tho, Boca is doing the right thing and selling players while they still have value while nurturing talented youth, if only Basile had more faith in youngin. I wouldnt be surprised to see some local talent arive at Boca maybe a young defender or two. Next season we should have a good combination of experience and youth I mean holy crackers we have guys like Battaglia, Gago, Palacio a lot to be excited about!!! :D

dittsche

10-07-2006, 12:09 AM

So it looks as though the unfortunate is happening - El Pocho is leaving to Borussia

Though it is not officially announced yet I really look forward to see him playing for Borussia :)
I hope he'll be the No 10 that we do need so much! Do you guys think he can make it over here?

chauchey

10-07-2006, 08:55 AM

Oi...does a cup winners cup happen every year between the sud/lib winners? and would it be like...a super...super classico if it was River/Boca? :p :D Oh hey, also, do the SA/EU winners play each other every year? Or just when the moneys right?

Nelly

10-07-2006, 02:46 PM

The Argentine/Boca goalie's distribution,whether it be throwing,kicking from hand or on the ground,was far superior to anyone other keepers.Probably better than more celebrated centre halfs as well.Really impressive.

capo

10-07-2006, 05:56 PM

We really should start a frequently asked questions section in the Boca thread :D

Though it is not officially announced yet I really look forward to see him playing for Borussia :)
I hope he'll be the No 10 that we do need so much! Do you guys think he can make it over here?

It's as official as it can get. I mean Boca players speak of Insua leaving to Germany as it already happened, so unless Borussia pulls out at the last possible moment...and if it happens we'll be very happy :D. If he plays anything close as to how he played for Boca you guys will be estatic with your new #10!!!

Oi...does a cup winners cup happen every year between the sud/lib winners? and would it be like...a super...super classico if it was River/Boca? :p :D Oh hey, also, do the SA/EU winners play each other every year? Or just when the moneys right?

I could be wrong here, but I think you are talking about Recopa Sudamericana (Libertadores vs Sudamericana). It happens in August and this year it will be Boca vs Sao Paulo. Usually it does happen every year, pero there were years when it didnt happen :eek:. And how dare you mention river here :)...yes it would be something like super puper classico. Now about SA/EU...it was called Intercontinental Cup, but recently they renamed it and restructured it...now it's called something like World Club Championship and it includes a champion out of every continent, it's played in December and unless this organization goes bankrupt it should be played every year.

The Argentine/Boca goalie's distribution,whether it be throwing,kicking from hand or on the ground,was far superior to anyone other keepers.Probably better than more celebrated centre halfs as well.Really impressive.

Are you referring to El Pato Roberto Abbondanzieri??? You really should see more of him because that's not the only thing he does great on a field and thanx for the positive comment!

Xyrus

10-07-2006, 10:34 PM

capo

11-07-2006, 07:04 AM

Yeah but Pato occasionally does some really stupid things, and as much as I like him I'm happy that Bobadilla has signed. I'm thrilled that Kily will be coming back (the deal is all but closed) as his experience will be invaluable and plus, Bilos was a tad inconsistent even though he occasionally shined. I hope we don't see Neri Cardozo's playing time reduced though, I think he's a great prospect and he's showing quite a bit of promise and the minutes can only be good for him.

I think we can all expect one more big signing, as obviously we are now lacking a playmaker now that Pocho is gone. And now that Belluschi isn't an option, I'm curious to see who will be coming in.

And just when I was starting to create hype around Pato...Xyrus came along :D. Pato isn't without his flaws :D, but let's be honest a team doesn't win titles and championships if their goalkeeper sucks. I think it's hard to play your entire career in Argentina, at one point the growth just stops and that could be attributed as to why he makes uncharacteristic for a goalkeeper decisions at times. How many times a year he gets to play against world class teams/players? Not that often...and it's only natural to be nervous and feel out of place when you are put on bigger arena...and when playing at home and still doing those stupid things maybe he falls asleep as he's at his comfort level (not challenged) playing same old teams. I can name a few goalkeepers whose level of play is much higher and they still make stupid things, while being considered great...Kahn, Barthez, Dida, Valdes. Point is - El Pato is the backbone of Boca, been there for many years and it will be sad to see him go, but at the same time I'm happy for him because he finally gets to live his dream.

Xyrus

11-07-2006, 11:42 PM

Vip

12-07-2006, 12:08 AM

Wait a second, when is Pato retiring? He's going to stick around for another season, right? I haven't heard any news about this yet. Migliore will start the next match though, a friendly on Wednesday against San Martín.

Kily is apparently still thinking about which move is the right move. Come on, che, you know you wanna come back. :D

I'm pretty sure that Pato will end up going to Europe. He "deserves" to try it out there. As for Kily ... he is still deciding, he was suppossed to give an answer this afternoon/nite. He would be the perfect addition to the team ... and suits Boca's game like a glove.

Nelly ... Abbondanzieri has always been very good with his feet. He is what some call an "attacking goalie", as many counters start with him. To Capo and Xyrus ... Pato has rarely been insecure in the Boca goal. He has been solid thru out. As ot Bobadilla, I have always considered him a top goalie ... really happy that he will join the club to replace Pato (if he leaves).

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chauchey

12-07-2006, 01:41 AM

i've liked pato. i think he's played good in net. he's won 3 major titles in the last year and a half. nuff said in my books. the copa sud title was a fantastic display IMO. anyways, i look forward to seeing him in EU. preferably with a team in Spain. :)

Vip

12-07-2006, 04:52 PM

Seems that Real Madrid are after Gago again. (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1232400&fecha=20060712)

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capo

12-07-2006, 06:55 PM

Seems that Real Madrid are after Gago again. (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1232400&fecha=20060712)
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What else is new eh? I mean it's a given that Gago will not play in Boca all his life (he's got 2 more years tops), but I really would love it if he stayed for another season. Gago says he enjoys playing for Boca and is looking forward to making history with the club this year...having said that Real is his dream and if there's a serious/concrete offer he'll probably accept...Basile values him at $50 mil :eek:, so go figure. I'm just a fan and those money do not go into my pocket, but $10-12 mil isn't that a lil low, especially for Galacticos?!?!

Xyrus

13-07-2006, 01:58 PM

Nelly ... Abbondanzieri has always been very good with his feet. He is what some call an "attacking goalie", as many counters start with him. To Capo and Xyrus ... Pato has rarely been insecure in the Boca goal. He has been solid thru out.
I agree, for the most part, except for that little incident in the superclásico...it was, admittedly, an excellent finish from the gallina though (I think it was Farías).

I think 10-12 mil for Gago is pretty low. He has the potential to become like Redondo, and for that RM had better pay a lot of money if he's going to leave.

Anyway, crappy, crappy game against San Martín de Tucumán yesterday in a friendly that we lost 1-0, ironically thanks to Tucumán-born Krupoviesa, who scored an own-goal as he tried to clear the ball and obviously failed. I think we're missing Pocho and Palacio a whole lot...and we need a new playmaker really fast.

Vip

18-07-2006, 12:03 AM

Boca beat Godoy Cruz 1-0 yesterday ... the team looked better, even thou Marino was way too slow.

Could Pisculichi (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1235462&fecha=20060717) be the solution for the place left by Pocho?

Edit: Adding ...

Pato is leaving to getafe tomorrow and Kily is closer and closer. Minor details are being ironed atm.

The first 2 games of the Apertura 06: Banfield and at Central. River are on the 8th of October for Round 10th.

Edit 2: Adding ...

Bobadilla, Paraguay's WC and Libertad's goalkeeper will join Boca this coming Thursday, after helping his previous team beat River and qualify to the Libetadores semis.

A little memorabilia with regards to the Libertad-River game:

http://www.cronica.com.ar/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/1153267200/1153319801.jpg :D

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Xyrus

20-07-2006, 10:51 PM

We are so screwed. Kily just signed with Rosario. We missed Belluschi. Bilos is gone. Pocho is gone. Basile is leaving. Macri is getting cranky, for very good reasons. I think this may be a record for the worst pre-season in the history of the club.

Vuelve a sus orígenes

Tras una década en Europa, Cristian González se convirtió en jugador de Rosario Central, sumándose a Paulo Wanchope entre los refuerzos

http://espndeportes-att.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0708/kily_arg_v.jpg

BUENOS AIRES (AP) -- Tras una década en el fútbol europeo, Cristian González se convirtió en flamante jugador de Rosario Central, sumándose así al tico Paulo Wanchope entre los refuerzos de fuste de ese club de la ciudad de Rosario.

"González es ciento por ciento jugador de Central", dijo el presidente de los "Canallas" Pablo Scarabino en reunión de prensa en la noche del miércoles.

Scarabino no dio detalles económicos sobre la incorporación del mediocampista -por cuyo pase también estaba interesado Boca Juniors- y que retorna al club en el que surgió futbolísticamente, procedente del Inter de Italia.

González, quien defendió a Argentina 63 veces y marcó 10 goles, jugó en Central desde 1993 hasta 1995, cuando pasó a Boca Juniors para actuar una temporada. Después se fue a España para jugar en Zaragoza y Valencia y desde 2003 en el Inter.

De 31 años, González se suma así al delantero costarricense Wanchope para sustentar la ilusión de los centralistas de ver al equipo campeón en el Apertura que arrancará el 4 de agosto, y en el que su primer rival será el recientemente ascendido Belgrano.

Wanchope, del Herediano, metió dos goles para Costa Rica en el reciente mundial, confirmando que sus dotes de cañonero están intactas.

Los defensores Darío Conca y Ariel Garcé, procedentes de los argentinos River Plate y Olimpo, respectivamente, son otros de los refuerzos de Central.

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=462237

Vip

21-07-2006, 08:10 AM

We are so screwed. Kily just signed with Rosario. We missed Belluschi. Bilos is gone. Pocho is gone. Basile is leaving. Macri is getting cranky, for very good reasons. I think this may be a record for the worst pre-season in the history of the club.

Don't worry man. THe club just got Datolo from Banfield ... a very talented youngster that can play on the left or as playmaker.

I'm pretty confident that there will be some other signing ... there is time still.

Also, Bobadilla signed last nite and will go to Mexico for the friendlies.

Edit 1:

Boca played its 1st friendly in Mexico against Cruz Azul yesterday. The game ended 2-2 and in pks Boca won 4-2.

The team:
Migliore
Ibarra - Silvestre - Diaz - Krupoviesa
Gago
Battaglia ----------------- Cardozo
Marino
Guille - Palermo

Both goals were scored by Guille ... but perhaps the most encouraging news is that Marino has improved in the role of playmaker.

Bobadilla arrived last nite to Mexico to join his team mates and Datolo should do it tonite. Next game is on Thursday against Atlas.(The game was scheduled for Wedenesday, but the same nite Chivas plays for the Libertadores ... so it was pushed to Thursday. On Saturday, Boca plays the last friendly agianst Tigres).

Meanwhile, Macri should get together with La Volpe today to discuss his posible involvement as Boca's new coach.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/07/24/portada.jpg

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Vip

24-07-2006, 03:25 PM

Edited last post ... ^^^

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Hartfield

24-07-2006, 06:13 PM

ohh c'mon that doesn't count.....

I'm wondering Why Boca didn't let Vargas go..... Is he going to get some playing time?

Vip

26-07-2006, 06:56 PM

Boca will talk with Grondona to see if it would be OK to keep Basile 'til December, sharing his time with the NT. If the AFA boss doesn't allow it, the alternative that looks closer to materialize is to have el Ruso Ribolzi as interim coach until December ... time when either MA Russo or Martino could be available.

The meeting with La Volpe was to know each other. La Volpe declared he was not acquainted with Argentine football, reason why it would be difficult to start the project right now.

Ribolzi seems to have the backing of the most experienced players in hte team ... looks like he might be the coach if Basile can't continue 'til December.

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Xyrus

26-07-2006, 10:31 PM

Vip

26-07-2006, 11:21 PM

Damn it, I wouldn't have minded La Volpe, he did a good job with Mexico. Alright, and what's the deal with Bianchi? Why is he only doing TV commentary instead of managing a team? Some contract with Atletico? And why can't he just buy himself out of the contract?

I want El Virrey back.

Bianchi's contract with Atletico was one of the 5 highest in Europe. :eek: Impossible to break without him taking a big loss ... plus he states he wants to stay with the family, which needs him.

Even Ribolzi and the "preparador fisico" are part of the Basile team ... which means that it still is difficult, reason why the meeting on Monday with Grondona will be important to determine if Ribolzi stays as interim coach.

Edit:
Boca played its last friendly in Mexico tonite ... a 6-1 win that could be Basile's last game as Boca coach.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/07/30/fotos/boca.jpg

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Xyrus

01-08-2006, 04:54 AM

It's been confirmed that Coco will stay as coach until the Recopa when we will maul Sao Paulo on September 14 I think, and then he will leave for the seleccion on that high note. :D

Vip

06-08-2006, 10:57 PM

Well, great start for Boquita this afternoon ... defeating Banfield by a categoric 3-0 at La Bombonera. Palermo (2) and Battaglia scored the winning goals.

It was a solid performance, with lots of dynamic upfront and defensively solid. Bobadilla made his debut for Boca and was cheered by the fans who still remember his performances to send River home from the Libertadores Cup a few weeks back. :D

Also, Marino started as the #10 of the team and had a great match, perhaps the best I've seen him at Boca ... slowly recovering his good form that brought him from Newells. He looked faster and confident with the ball.

And Cardozo played the entire 90' on the left replacing Bilos. Good game from Neri ... his speed is very interesting and gives that change in rythm that the team needs from 3/4 up.

Next Saturday at Rosario Central.

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chauchey

07-08-2006, 01:05 AM

i watched most of the second half. It was a good preformance, and especially gutsy by Palermo, who had recently lost someone close to him in his family. :( Wow. Talk about Courage!

Xyrus

07-08-2006, 02:59 AM

I tell ya...in terms of mental fortitude and courage, there are few players in the world, if any, I admire more than Palermo. Whatever he lacks on pitch, he more than makes up for in the mental department. Every single game he gives a thousand percent, even if he has to shoot with his feet (he doesn't like that so much :P ), and he will miss again and again (like against River this past year) but the thing is he will never stop trying.

Back in 2000 in the Libertadores quarter-final against River in La Bombonera, El Loco making his return after SIX months and four days out from injury. What a game! First Riquelme crosses for Chelo and then El Torero with the decisive penalty kick that he celebrated like I've never seen him celebrate before (until Villarreal v Inter, when he went even more crazy), the atmosphere was just incredible. And then, Palermo coming on as a substitute and he scored on his return! With his feet, no less! The supporters at that moment...I would be hard pressed to find a match where any crowd roared any louder. Wonderful moment. It's times like those that inscribe Palermo in the Boca history books as a club legend.

Vip

07-08-2006, 06:07 AM

Yeah ... Palermo had a good game today. He looked faster/lighter too.

Good signs for the semester. :D

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eldiego10

07-08-2006, 08:29 AM

Back in 2000 in the Libertadores quarter-final against River in La Bombonera, El Loco making his return after SIX months and four days out from injury. What a game! First Riquelme crosses for Chelo and then El Torero with the decisive penalty kick that he celebrated like I've never seen him celebrate before (until Villarreal v Inter, when he went even more crazy), the atmosphere was just incredible. And then, Palermo coming on as a substitute and he scored on his return! With his feet, no less! The supporters at that moment...I would be hard pressed to find a match where any crowd roared any louder. Wonderful moment. It's times like those that inscribe Palermo in the Boca history books as a club legend.

Oh i remember that game. Awesome. Still trying to locate it again in my vhs tape collection. All im left with rightt now seems to be a clip of the penalty kick and his celebration. Damn he was intense.

dimz

07-08-2006, 01:38 PM

Yeah awesome game by Boca all round. Silvestre was immense in the back as well, he let nothign pass him. I thought Gago started the game very well but gradually started to make a few poor decisions, he'll pick it up no doubt. Neri Cardoso and Marino looked the business though. Bodes well for Boca for the season. I see this is a spoiler thread though, :) i'll try to avoid it if i haven't seen the games yet.

Vip

07-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Oh i remember that game. Awesome. Still trying to locate it again in my vhs tape collection. All im left with rightt now seems to be a clip of the penalty kick and his celebration. Damn he was intense.

I would die also to re-watch the game ... it is now celebrated by Boca fans as: the "Fatherhood Day" ("Dia de la Paternidad"). :p

A classic of classics. :D

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eldiego10

07-08-2006, 08:54 PM

I would die also to re-watch the game ... it is now celebrated by Boca fans as: the "Fatherhood Day" ("Dia de la Paternidad"). :p

A classic of classics. :D

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Cool, i have to learn spanish :mad:

indomitable_lion

07-08-2006, 09:35 PM

Vip

08-08-2006, 04:15 PM

Even though Boca won 3-0 against Banfield, I was pretty disappointed with their performance. For the majority of the game they couldn't even put more than 4 passes together and kept giving away possession. I am glad I read this thread though, otherwise I wouldn't have known why Palermo was crying after he scored the goal.

The only player that impressed me was Ibarra. I think he, not Ashley Cole, is the answer to Chelsea's left back problem. Why did he leave Europe?

Ibarra decided to come back to Boca as a personal decision to be able to play for Boca once again. To live the emotions of playing for a club that goes for all tournaments, its fans, and being back home is priceless.

But it is funny how different peeps see things differently. I thought that Ibarra was one of the low points of the team ... he was inaccurate in his ball control and passing, and rarely touched the endline, which is one of his characteristics.

But it is also true this is only the first official game, despite the 3 friendlies in Mexico, and players are still "stiff" after pre-season. The ball control and precision should improve dramtically as soon as muscles relax and gain rythm once again.

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Vip

14-08-2006, 05:55 AM

A good result winning at the always difficult Rosario against Central, who had made several good signings during the break. The 2-1 is a fair result

Despite not playing a great game, Boca created enuff chances to deserve the 3 points. Central rarely got near Bobadilla's goal ...

Too bad we didn't get a chance to watch Datolo yet. I think that it was a good chance to see him in action, when the score was 2-0 and under control.

Next game: Saturday at home against co-leaders and title contenders, Independiente.

PS: Hope to see other members participating in this thread. I know you are getting accostummed to winning, but there is always space for commenting the performance. ;)

PS2: To the mods ... I created a new post to see if others write again now that they see the thread again among their subscribed threads. A post per game shouldn't be a problem ... I know there are plenty of peeps who read the thread if there is new info. :)

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dimz

14-08-2006, 05:20 PM

I thought it was a good match, in that it was very keenly contested. Like u said VIP, Boca deserved the win 2-1 because of the type of chances they created. Even if we still don't look all that solid eveywhere. Again, i liked the display by Gago and the other midfielders.....but i'd like to see Palacio get into his stride soon. U know when we play River?

Xyrus

14-08-2006, 10:46 PM

I must say I wasn't that impressed with the performance against Central. I just saw the match today and Marino...he's not cutting it. Maybe he hasn't gotten into a rhythm yet, but try as he might, he just doesn't have the ability to be the #10. The team is all but incapable of hanging onto possession in the opponents' half because Marino's distribution is poor. Palacio and Palermo were not really able to get in the game that much although you can easily credit Rosario for that, they were playing inspired football. I thought Encina was the best player on the pitch, although Krupo was our MOTM. He was definitely playing well.

Gago was okay, didn't really have his best of games but Silvestre was solid. I think he played pretty well. Cardozo was good, Battaglia did his job like usual, Ibarra was also good. Palacio and Palermo never really had a chance to shine, although when Palacio got the ball he did some very good things with it and had a few shots that were saved very well by Central's keeper. We got really lucky at the end too when Wanchope unbelievably skied that shot. Bobadilla had no chance, it was a goal waiting to happen. Too bad! :D

It's Marino, man. We need a new #10. Is Dátolo the answer? I thought he was mainly a replacement for Bilos.

We're going to have a beast of a game against Independiente. I expect a draw at best actually because Independiente have been storming through their games and Montenegro has proven an invaluable signing for them.

Vip

15-08-2006, 05:55 AM

La Volpe arrives tomorrow to Bs As and will proabbly get together with Macri. On Wednesday there is a board meeting that might end up announcing the new coach. But nothing is sealed yet.

On the other hand, Boca won its 9th consecutive game in the Argentinian tournament ... one game shy of their record 10 straight wins in 1933. They meet Independiente at home this coming weekend.

The streak so far:
Clausura '06
Boca v Banfield 2-1
Colon v Boca 1-2
Boca v Arsenal 1-0
Velez v Boca 2-3
Boca v Estudiantes 4-0
Independiente v Boca 0-2
Boca v Olimpo 2-0
Apertura '06
Boca v Banfield 3-0
Central v Boca 1-2

The Argentinian all time record is of 13 straight wins ... San Lorenzo coached by Pellegrini (Villarreal's coach presently).

As to Datolo, he can play either as left midfielder or as playmaker. He should get a chance soon to show himself. I agree that the game against Independiente is massive. The Reds have formed a very good team ... it is one of those 6 point games IMO.

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JuJu

17-08-2006, 04:58 PM

What do you guys think about this:
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1254156&fecha=20060817
(in spanish)

The Boca president, Macri gave Independiente fans 3465 seats for saturdays match. Even more alarming is the fact that he points ut how dificult it is to get a seat at La Bombonera, and sees the only soultion in building a new stadium - probably not at present ground!
I think Boca simply have to stay at La Boca - but what to do? Ideas anyone?:confused:

dimz

17-08-2006, 05:16 PM

It would be terrible if they left there. i alwasy thought we should play world cup qualifiers against brazil there instead of the calm monumental. Less seats but hey, brazil woud shit themselves.

Vip

18-08-2006, 06:02 PM

It is a very delicate issue ... the neighborhood certainly feeds the "romance". But there are serious economic issues to consider, Boca has stopped taking new members 18 months ago, as they can't offfer them packages to the games. Also the reduction of the capacity by city officials made the problem even worst. The loss of revenue is very big ... the club needs to maximize their income to build strong teams.

The ideal is for the club to find a way, and very expensively, to buy out some of the neighbors ... in order to expand the size of La Bombonera. But this approach was tried a couple years back without a happy ending ... some of the neighbors didn't want to sell their properties.

With River getting around US$40 million in 10 years to give the name of their stadium to Coca-Cola, it brings a new dimension to financing in Argentine football. Boca would have no problem in getting a similar offer in the near future. I reckon that influx could be used to find the way to finance the expansion of the stadium where it is, by paying the neighbors enuff money for them to sell. It would give Boca the best of both worlds.

But if all avenues have been exahusted, and no solution can be found, the need for a bigger stadium somewhere else is a must. As heart-breaking as it sounds. :o

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indomitable_lion

18-08-2006, 06:16 PM

I may be banned from this thread for posting this but here goes anyway :D

v/-Kyk4HN8UcU

I never get tired of watching this thing. Like Roger Federer said, if you win 90% of your matches, it's good to lose every now and then. What happened to Boca that day?

JuJu

20-08-2006, 11:50 PM

Vip

21-08-2006, 04:52 PM

After the 1-0 home win against title contender Independiente on Saturday, Boca matched its best ever winning streak of 10 wins from 1933.

It was a great result, which should had been a lot more confortable. Independiente pressured thru out the 2nd half, specially after Battaglia left injured in Boca and Rodrigo Diaz (keep an eye on him) entered for the Reds.

Outstanding efforts from both of Boca's central defenders, Diaz and Silvestre (goal) ... and interesting game from Krupoviesa, Marino and Cardozo. Unfortunately, it was not Gago's best game when he had the ball. Datolo played only a few minutes late in the 2nd half, but was enuff to show his ability. He will be an important addition to Boca's offensive mid thru out the semester.

Ibarra left the field injured early in the 2nd half ... he is the only Argentine based player called for the friendly against Brazil. Hopefully his injury won't prevent him from taking part of the NT. His replacement, Calvo, was not as sharp as usual pushing forward.

Was the win deserved? Certainly. In the 1st half, Boca controlled the game and erased Independiente from the field. The result should had been a lot looser. In the 2nd half, Independiente took the initiative after the 15th, but Boca was still more dangerous in the counters and set plays.

Next Sunday, at San Lorenzo ... another of the title contenders.

EDIT:
Breaking News ...
Ricardo La Volpe, who coached Mexico in WC06, will be presented this afternoon as the new Boca Jrs. coach starting his job on September 15th.

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Nelly

27-08-2006, 10:13 PM

Whao.........Boca went to town this evening.:eek: :eek:

What was that word you were after,VIP? It certainly applies here.;)

chauchey

27-08-2006, 11:41 PM

man, this was a VERY convinceing victory! :D The striking pair of palacio and palermo really lit it up!

Vip

28-08-2006, 02:36 AM

Whao.........Boca went to town this evening.:eek: :eek:

What was that word you were after,VIP? It certainly applies here.;)

Hehehee :D

It was an awesome offensive display, evry chance was taken. To be fair, the result is a lot wider than what it should, but this things happen in footie every once in a while. :p

The important thing is that in the previous games against Central and Independiente, Boca wasted clear chances that in turn were all taken today.

The win is a great boost ... the team has now entered the history of Boca, winning its 11th game in a row, the best record. This is quite an accosmplishment. Also, we reached the 18th undefeated game (the last had been th e1-2 defeat to San Lorenzo in the 5th Round of the Clausura). And obviously tastes sweet against San Lorenzo for the 2 consecutive defeats against them in the previous 2 encounters under Basile. San Lorenzo is the only team with a better record against Boca ...

Boca is a solid team, that changes only a few players every season. They are the candidates to the title, but there is still too much tournie to play. Hopefully the transition from Basile to La Volpe is smooth and that one of the 2 triples is achieved: the Argentinian league tournie or the Sudamericana Cup. :D

Next game up is Estudiantes at home. Estudiantes lost today, so we are alone at the top of the table. Basile won't coach the team as he will be with the NT playing agaisnt Brazil that day ... so his assistant Ribolzi will take charge. After the game on Sunday, Boca has the South American Recopa 1st leg at home against Sao Paulo on the 6th, for which Basile will be back. It will be Basile's last game as Boca coach at home.

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chauchey

28-08-2006, 05:28 AM

I'm veerry much looking forward to that game!! :D Not, of course, because Basile is leaveing, but because I'd like to see how Boca stacks up against SP.

lazymagician

28-08-2006, 07:34 AM

that was an awesome result, 7-1!! They didn't let a single chance go, lol, i felt sorry for the home team, not a pretty way to lose at home of all places. Gago was fantastic as was Palacio. Was this the last time Basile will be coaching at the sidelines, i mean if his term is up on the 15th, it just seemed like he was tearing up a few times, or was i just imagining that.

chauchey

28-08-2006, 07:46 AM

nope, i saw the same thing. He won alot of trophies here in this last year and a half. Its tough to walk away from that, nomatter how tempting the other offer is.

Vip

28-08-2006, 03:20 PM

Classic ... :D

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/08/28/fotos/f012gh01.jpg

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chauchey

28-08-2006, 07:17 PM

HAHAHA!!! Product shot dejure! the 'i'm scared because i've never done this before' smile and everything. lol. thanks vip. :)

dimz

06-09-2006, 04:01 AM

Quite possibly the best football team on the planet at the moment. They simply don't look beatable.

Vip

06-09-2006, 10:14 PM

YEs Dimz, they are playing very good atm ... it will be a good measure the games against Sao Paulo for the Recopa (South American Supercup). 1st leg this Thursday in Bs As, the return leg next Thursday.

On other news, Boca is looking to buy the remaining %s of the Palacio transfer still in hands of his original club. The intention is to buy out this %s and offer Palacio a new 3 year contract. Boca wants ot have the totality of the transfer rights, as mid next year Palacio is most probably gonna be transfered.

The replacement for Palacio in mind is Chelito Delgado, playing at Mexico's Cruz Azul. Would be an excellent way to replace Palacio ... Delgado is a great forward, very similar to Palacio.

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Xyrus

06-09-2006, 10:36 PM

This might sound like a dumb question, but is Cesar 'Chelito' Delgado the younger brother (or is he related at all?) of Marcelo 'Chelo' Delgado? :D I ask because not only do they have the same last name (albeit a common one), but even their nicknames imply that Chelo was the first one and now the second one is also worthy of the nickname 'Chelo' but was named 'Chelito' because he is younger...? :p

Vip

06-09-2006, 11:32 PM

dimz

07-09-2006, 03:37 PM

Hmm, that would be an excellent acquisition for Boca....Chelo is great!

karmaf1

07-09-2006, 04:25 PM

I have a question for you boca fans. I plan on going to Argentina next year, but I'm not sure right now what's the right time to go. Because I'd prefer to go like at the end of June/beginning of July or at the end of April/beginning of May. But I'm not sure if there's game in the summer. If you can tell me some nice places to visit to it'll be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Vip

08-09-2006, 04:11 PM

It seems that the local players will join the NT the nite after the superclasico on October 8th. This way the players can play with their teams and the NT.

But what many are forgetting is that in midweek, while the game against Spain, Boca and River will have Round of 16 games for the Sudamericana. For Boca this could be a problem, as also Bobadilla might be called up for the Paraguay NT.

Boca could end up missing: Bobadilla, Ibarra, Diaz, Gago and Palacio for that Sudamericana game, which I believe is the return leg against the winner of Libertad (Par) v Nacional (Uru).

Also ... if Boca qualifies to 4ters ... and River does too, in October we will have 2 more superclasicos for the Sudamericana. :D

As to the game yesterday, the MoM was Palacio, but the importance and presence to control the midfield was ALL Gago. Very impressive game from both.

Bobadilla gave away the first goal ... and Battaglia seemed out of touch and distance. When Ledesma came in, the midfield regained the balance and turned over the game. The score should had been a lot more generous ... regardless, what should really be the positive note, aside from the win, is the # of goal situations the team created. Very impressed and satisfied. :D

PS: Karma, I'll PM you later with some suggestions.

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dimz

08-09-2006, 09:39 PM

My sentiments exactly about the game yesterday. I just finished watching the second half having had to go out last night not see the wicked comeback. Very impressed with the way they create all those chances, but i really would like to see more of them hitting the target at least. I can't wait for the Superclassico!

sanmarcos

11-09-2006, 12:22 AM

Vip

11-09-2006, 12:37 AM

The President of Gimnasia is out of his mind.

They say they waited inside the referee's changing room and threatened him.

Anywhow, Gimenez was a joke, stealing the match for Boca (like always with big teams).

I heard the game, wel the half, on La Red. Since the start of the game, Closs and Pacini were saying that Jimenez had an outstanding job. That Gimnasia came out to play rough and dirty and that all the yellows were perfectly given. They were pointing out at "the Russian", Troglio's aid and at Troglio, saying both were also wrong and out of themselves.

Then, the Gimnasia President along other peeps (possibly fans) went to menace the ref to his locker room ... and Jimenez decided to suspend the game. He left in a police car to the police station ...

Lets be clear in something, according to Closs' narrating, in any moment Gimnasia was going to end with 10 ... they were playing out of control. And not to forget Gimnasia's goal came from a penalty. So much for Jimenez helping Boca. :rolleyes:

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Xyrus

15-09-2006, 02:52 AM

SP's Junior scored a few minutes ago but our trusty phenomenon Rodrigo Palacio struck back with a header, no less! We're still in the lead.

capo

15-09-2006, 06:34 AM

BOCA JUNIORS
Rey de Copas
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http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7003/campeon06ib3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/429/ollleeeegu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Congratulations to all the Boca fans, our boys just made the history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Palacio and never aging Palermo came thru once again. Thank you Boca, Thank you Basile!!!

Vip

15-09-2006, 04:21 PM

It is an awesome feeling to be a Boca fan this past decade. Sao Paulo is, arguably, the strongest side in the Americas in the past few years along Boca. Winner of the Libertadore 05 and Club World Cup 05, runner-up in Libertadores 06 and current leader in the Brazilian league. And this was a 2 tie cup that faced the 2 powerhouses ... to determine the strongest.

It is always difficult to play in Brazil, with those larger fields. Where the dribbling skills of the Brazilians make every inch of the field an uphill task to defend. But this Boca has the personality and will of the great champions. Behind in the score, and when the result took away the cup for a few minutes, that personality to take the game to Sao Paulo's field and trust in the power upfront paid off ... once again.

It is a proud moment ... the club's 16th international trophy, surpassing Milan, Real Madrid and Independiente, all with 15. Since Mauricio Macri became President almost a decade ago, Boca has systematically won titles semester after semester. One player, an idol among the fans, Guillermo Barros Schelotto has been part of all of those titles ... 15 of them. The list is worth mentioning, separated into semesters, to quantify the dominance and seriousness of our beloved club:

1998 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 98
1999 – 1st Semester > Clausura 99
1999 – 2nd Semester >
2000 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 00
2000 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 00, Intercontinental 00
2001 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 01
2001 – 2nd Semester >
2002 – 1st Semester >
2002 – 2nd Semester >
2003 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 03
2003 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 03, Intercontinental 03
2004 – 1st Semester >
2004 – 2nd Semester > Sudamericana 04
2005 – 1st Semester >
2005 – 2nd Semester > Recopa 05, Apertura 05, Sudamericana 05
2006 – 1st Semester > Clausura 06
2006 – 2nd Semester > Recopa 06, ...???

Cheers to my fellow Xeneizes ... life is a celebration in blue and yellow. :D

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/09/15/portada.jpg

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Patrick77

15-09-2006, 06:20 PM

It is always difficult to play in Brazil, with those larger fields. Where the dribbling skills of the Brazilians make every inch of the field an uphill task to defend. But this Boca has the personality and will of the great champions. Behind in the score, and when the result took away the cup for a few minutes, that personality to take the game to Sao Paulo's field and trust in the power upfront paid off ... once again..

Was a long night here in Europe to can watch this big game for Boca Juniors.
The third big price in estadio Morumbi, after 2 Copa Libertadores, (v. Palmeiras en against Santos).

Maybe the Brazilians don't like it, but it is the second home of the club.

5 titles in 14 months. Alfio Basile build a strong team in that short time. Not long ago i see my first game from Boca (in a stadium) against Atletico Junior for the Copa Libertadores. What a difference between that day in 2005 and now.

Many thanks to Coco and his staff.

1998 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 98
1999 – 1st Semester > Clausura 99
1999 – 2nd Semester >
2000 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 00
2000 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 00, Intercontinental 00
2001 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 01
2001 – 2nd Semester >
2002 – 1st Semester >
2002 – 2nd Semester >
2003 – 1st Semester > Libertadores 03
2003 – 2nd Semester > Apertura 03, Intercontinental 03
2004 – 1st Semester >
2004 – 2nd Semester > Sudamericana 04
2005 – 1st Semester >
2005 – 2nd Semester > Recopa 05, Apertura 05, Sudamericana 05
2006 – 1st Semester > Clausura 06
2006 – 2nd Semester > Recopa 06, ...???

Rey de Copas.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/09/15/portada.jpg

Cheers. http://www.soccerquest.nl/forum/images/smilies/19.gif

dimz

16-09-2006, 01:04 AM

Congrats to boca again. What an amazing team, and i still say that i think the way they are playign now, they can beat any team in the world. I haven't seen football like this so consistently in quite a while. Boca vs. Barca would be an amazing match.

Vip

21-09-2006, 11:03 PM

Most of us have watched football for years, not to say decades. The saying: "team that is winning shouldn't be touched" has been heard thousands of times.

There is another conclusion that comes to my mind ... use the "achique" in defense only when necessary, not as the way to defend. Achique means to push forward to close spaces playing the offside trap as main defensive strategy.

Well, I am growing anxious and preocupied with the reports of the Boca trainings. Not only the team is being changed, the way of playing is being changed ... and the "achique" seems to be the prefered way to defend. Applying pressure means leaving spaces in the back, something that Argentine teams know very well how to exploit.

From a 4-3-1-2 that displayed some beautiful football, not seen in Argentina since the 1st days of Bianchi at Boca or of Ramon Diaz's River, I am noticing an inclination to tactics and mechanical movement.

La Volpe is practicing with a 3-5-2 when attacking that turns to a 5-3-2 when defending. This is the team that played in yesterday's practice:

Bobadilla
Maidana - Cata Diaz - Morel
Ibarra - Gago - Krupoviesa
Ledesma -------- Neri Cardozo
Palacio - Palermo

In simple terms, replaced the playmaker, Marino/Datolo, with another defender.

But, in reality, it makes Ibarra and Krupo to still go forward (not that they didn't with Coco) but to press in defense further up the pitch. It makes Ledesma and Neri as exterior midfielders ... close to the side lines. And boxes both Palermo and Palacio into the center.

What does this all mean? That the element of surprise is gone. The imagination to create your space is limited to the zone asked to perform. That the best Palermo, which pivots with his back to the goal and then finds his place to simply push it in, will be fighting against defenders in the air. That the surprise arrival of Neri thru out the entire front, which gave Palacio the chance to create his own chances, is limited to the sideline.

Another point ... Bobadilla can't clear long no more, that which gave Palacio the chance to shine. La Volpe wants the ball to start on the ground and clean from the back. Even if the element of surprise is gone.

I am worried. Worried because I am a firm believer that a coach should adapt his tactics to the players at hand. What else did Boca need to prove in the past 14 months? :mad:

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Xyrus

25-09-2006, 01:27 AM

A 1-0 victory over Chicago today, Cardozo scoring the only goal. I didn't see the game though...why only 1-0? Yeah it's a result but it's not a great one. I too am a little skeptical of La Volpe's claims that he doesn't want to touch anything. Thankfully he hasn't "revolutionized" the team, but still...

I did however see about two minutes in the middle. The guys are playing with a lot of pace, they do look sharp so I can't complain too much.

River

26-09-2006, 05:57 AM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/locoxriver/afichebocaracha.jpg

:D

Vip

29-09-2006, 03:54 PM

Where to start? Maybe a few days back when La Volpe told reporters that Maidana was "green" (as in not ripe) to play in Boca's first team. So for yesterday's game, the 2 right backs are injured ... there goes Maidana.

I believe La Volpe made several key mistakes last nite. First off, Maidana should had been subbed early in the 2nd half. The kid was just getting burned out there ... his team mates wouldn't give him the ball even if he was clear open on the right, he was doing mistake after mistake with the ball (the 2nd goal started with a bad pass in front of the box) ... and worst of all, the game was being controlled in the 2nd half and needed another attacking mid or Guille.

Why take Neri out for Datolo? Why not play with 3 in the back, if Maidana was just a shadow on the right?

It comes down to La Volpe's reasoning, it is 180 minutes. What he doesn't understand is this is Boca. Boca is not used to lose any 90 minute. Last time they did was back in February, for the 5th Round of the Clausura 06 against San Lorenzo 1-2 ... the day Coco did the "cross" on Baldasi or was it Pessota? The previous international game lost was almost a year ago against Internacional in Porto Alegre ... in the 92nd minute, the day Pato was red carded when the game finished.

I expect the fans to show La Volpe this Sunday their mood after yesterday's loss. For him to understand this is not Deportivo Sacachispas nor do we have a fridge of stadium. Last nite he had Guille sitting on the bench ... and the focker used 1 sub in the entire game! Playing with 10 most of the game which will further burn the players for Sunday.

These are logical things to do in a Boca game. La Volpe doesn't get it yet. Seriously.

The tie can be reverted in Salta. There is no question about it. Hopefully Delgado will be back to replace Palermo ... how much more can Chelo get injured? It has been weird.

Lastly ... Palermo's red was a consequence of his impotence ... the impotence to know that a very good football playing team has been dismantled to assemble a "playstation" footy playing team. A team that was a joy to watch. What a shame.

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dimz

29-09-2006, 06:07 PM

Unfortunately i could'n twatch the game as i had shitloads of homework to finish before today. I tried recording it but it didn't work, damn Tivo fucks up sometimes. Thanks for the analysis Vip. I was initally disappointed with the appointment of LaVolpe in the first place, so i'm not surprised he doesn't seem to be getting things right from a tactical standpoitn. Then agian, this is his 3rd game or so. Let's just hope that he gets things right in time for El Clasico.

Xyrus

01-10-2006, 10:52 PM

WE WON THE GAME!! Palacio, que jugador, por dios!! Two goals today from Rodrigo, he's playing insane football.

We were 2-0 down so I turned it off, I come back and I missed 1 from Gago and 2 from Palacio? Life is so unfair...glad we won though, I was about to rant against La Volpe.

dimz

02-10-2006, 06:22 AM

I do hope u turned it off cuz u had to go out or something. Great comeback from Boca, i smelt it from the time we went down 2-0. We still look very shaky though. Can't wait for EL CLASICO!!

Vip

02-10-2006, 06:25 AM

It could sound as a coincidence, but the irony is that today Boca played with 10 men the way it played under Basile, and this was determinant in finding the way to overturn the 0-2. How is this?

Yes, Krupoviesa did play under Basile, but only after the red card, when the team was down 0-2, did La Volpe see himself forced to forget about the "fixed" wide open mids. When Maidana replaced Bertolo, the right side of the field was covered by Ledesma ... or the surprise appearance of Calvo or Franzoia. What looked as a disorganized midfield, resulted in the midfield control of the game ... when players occupied spaces by the need of the game instead of a blackboard.

Perhaps this is the turning point in the relation with the coach ... as these players today saved his coach from his first insults at home. This SHOULD make La Volpe realize the value of the players ... they are who make this team so special.

Once Gago scored the 1-2, one could sense that his debut as goalscorer at Boca had to be a special date. It was a true memorable comeback, at such an important time ... the derby with River is next weekend. The unbeaten streak in the Argentine tournie now reaches 23. But most importantly, both River and San Lorenzo dropped points this round, which means Boca will still be the leader after next weekend ... with a game on hand. The 4 point cushion over River is the ideal situation.

But lets not forget that twice Boca was scored from headers, something that rarely happened before under Coco. The new system is creating confusion ... or is it not the adequate for the Argentinian league? I hope this is worked and mastered this week in training, River has some good headers.

For now, lets simply enjoy another comeback ... with 10. It is an instant classic. :D

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River

03-10-2006, 01:00 AM

Damn, can you be helped more?

I just finished watching Boca's game vs. Velez, on Futbol de Primera.

- Palacio should have been red carded at the beginning of the second half.. This would have meant two things.. 1) The result would have probably ended up favoring Velez.. He wouldn't have scored the two goals, and Velez could have probably played better vs. 9 players.. and 2) He would be missing the Superclasico.
- I think it was Escudero who scored a beautiful goal for Velez when the score was 2-2.. Baldassi claimed he was offsides, but when you watch it again, he really wasn't..
- I heard that el Cata Diaz should have been red carded.. I didn't see the play, so I can't say he was or he wasn't.. Does anyone know which play this was, and if he really should have gotten the red? (Be honest)

Xyrus

03-10-2006, 03:03 AM

dimz

08-10-2006, 03:35 PM

What did you guys think of Krupo's red card? I don't remember it clearly but I don't remember it being violent. Not sure about it though. Palacio did get lucky but if Krupo's red wasn't fair then the ref could only balance his decision by not sending off Palacio.

Morel was phenomenal too.
I didn't see his red, in fact i didn't realize we were down to 10 men until much later, :D.

Everyone ready for the demolition of las gallinas?!!!

akd

08-10-2006, 10:30 PM

Everyone ready for the demolition of las gallinas?!!!

Demolition of the Bosteros maybe...:D

chauchey

08-10-2006, 10:32 PM

wow....some tough love today. Anyone want to bed that De Volpe is going to have trouble keeping his job after the clausura is over at this rate? They definetly dont look like the same team they did 4 weeks ago.

Vip

09-10-2006, 05:53 PM

If, and only if, you play the game, you know that the mistakes that caused the River goals came from the bench. It is as simple as that.

What has changed in the past 4 weeks under La Volpe?
- Play the ball from the back
- Play with 3 in the back
- Use achique (offside trap)
- Zone marking instead of man to man in set pieces.
- No playmaker = Gago carrying the construction = Ledesma as the DM which he is not.
- No surprise in attack ... two wingers (Datolo and Calvo) opening the field but as visible and expected as inefective. (How many times did Calvo reach the end line?)
- The burning of youngsters, given roles that are not their natural.
- Take Cardozo out his best position, left midfield
- The subs ... what a headache.

I heard La Volpe's press conference on Friday. In a passage of it, you can sense his naivity and lack of understanding of Argentinian footy. He was "protesting" how players hold shirts and rivals inside the box in set pieces. That in "Europe" this doesn't happen. I bring this up because his starting concept of how the game is played is what makes him decide how his team needs to play.

Zone marking in set pieces? In Argentinian footy? Boca has received 5 goals of 7 in 3 games due to it. 3 defenders? You need a fast last man, which Cata is not. Which Silvestre is not either to chase attackers wide on the right. Silvestre had clean games until yesterday. Offside trap? Look at River's 2nd and 3rd, and the ones they missed due to lack of quality. While Farias was playing the "hook", Higuain was free to run thru.

Taking Gago out of the DM and giving him the role of creating the football in the mid is a role he can probably do. But the team has no real DM to back him ... a player that has his ability to read the game and the timing to cut advances. This unbalances the team ...

Using Calvo and Datolo wide open cut the surprise in attack. Calvo hasn't reached the end line once in the games he has played under La Volpe. He always did under Coco because he would fill the spaces coming from behind as surprise. Datolo ... used as a winger and solely as a winger limits his ability and vision to the sideline. All game long, La Volpe would demand Datolo to get on the side. Boxed there. To try to go thru Ferrari and Tuzzio and cross. No surprise. No creativity.

Neri ... fast and talented to cut inside with his most favorable foot, when starting on the left, has lost all his spark. And is replaced with a youngster!

I could go on and on with things he has changed and which have had an effect on the team's performance. Most important is the stubborn thought that players need to adapt to a tactical scheme instead of using a tactical scheme that maximizes the players he has at his disposal. And this is very serious, as he is burning out youngsters to fill those gaps. Not giving them the time to blend into 1st team action.

The end result is 2 won, 1 tied, 2 lost. 6 goals scored and 7 received. And now that Palermo will be out 6-8 weeks ...

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dimz

09-10-2006, 11:28 PM

Vip

10-10-2006, 12:21 AM

Yes it was a terrible game, and i was quite sad at the end. Wehn he was just appointed i knew it was a bad decision for Boca. I saw most of Mexico's qualification games for the WC and they did nothing exceptional. Nothing that their talent shouldn't be able to do without a coach. He's not good enough to be a coach at the top level, and boca are at the top level. It frustrates me cuz we had more of the ball than River, but like Vip said, the offside trap with 3 in the back is killing us.

Another thing i'd like to emphasise is the mediocrity of Bobadilla. It was his fault the first goal scored, summoning the defender to take a pass which put him into a corner, and he had to foul the River player right after. I didn't think he was the answer to Pato's departure in the beginning, and it seems i'm being proven right now. He should have done more with the third goal as well, it slipped right under his arm.

The main problem that the goalie and the defenders are having is that La Volpe is insisting they play from the back. If they don't do it ... he will end up benching them. It is lack of criteria on Bobadilla, but it is all mental stress coming from the coach. :mad: He is a good goalie, but he is not helped by the "environment" since La Volpe.

To add to worst ... Palermo is out 6-8 weeks with knee ligament problems ... and Delgado got injured yet again in th efew minutes he played. Looks like youngster Boselli will have to play along Palacio.

It ain't looking good. :(

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Nelly

11-10-2006, 11:44 PM

Is it true that the Nacional team have some sort of medical crisis going into tomorrow's Sudamericana game at Boca?

Could be worth a real gamble if true.

River

12-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Is it true that the Nacional team have some sort of medical crisis going into tomorrow's Sudamericana game at Boca?

Could be worth a real gamble if true.

Yes, it's true. They have eight players who are sick, and possibly even more by tomorrow.

Nelly

13-10-2006, 02:50 AM

Something weird is going on with the betting.Boca's price has remained at a steady 1.4 then drifted out to 1.54,even after the news of El Nacional's was widespread.:mad:

Vip

17-10-2006, 04:52 PM

It has been 32 days since La Volpe took over. The scheme he wants to play is more clear every day. From the 4-3-1-2 with a playmaker under Coco, Boca plays a 5-3-2 these days.

In other words, the replacement of the playmaker for an extra central defender. In this process, Gago has been moved a bit up the midfield, asking him to be the one generating the ofensive football ... as oppossed to his role of being the initaitor of the attack and only arriving as surprise to make the last pass.

In these days, results are what rule. So La Volpe has the benefit of the doubt in the Apertura and possibly in the Clausura and Libertadores. But under the same token, the results are far from being positive to this point.

Last Sunday, Boca deserved to win, which is far from saying that it won playing well. Some of the earlier mistakes were not committed ... but nothing new in attack has been seen. Far from it. Despite being pushed up the field, Krupo and Ibarra arrive less to the endline ... and when the team was down to 10, no forward was brought in to accompany Palacio ... at home!

The philosophy behind his football style is what had, has and will have me worried. To pretend that the left and right backs are adequate offensive weapons is a disrespect to the intelligence of the fan. To cut the playmaker out for a central defender means that he is more worried in not losing than in winning.

Time will tell. In the meantime, Boca is still leading the tournament with 1/2 a game on hand.

Marino and Delgado are almost ready to return from injury, while Silvestre is still with foot problems. Battaglia is still injured and Palermo has 5-6 weeks out still. Boselli is the candidate to start along Palacio against Racing.

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Edited on 11/06/06:

Well ... it's been a while since posting in the thread, so I'll try to summarize the latest news/results.

Boca beat fair and square Argentinos at home in round 13. The 2-1 result is very generous to Argentinos. Boca did not play a great game, yet deseved to win by a wider margin. Goals from Krupoviesa and Boselli put Boca ahead 2-0 only to receive a late goal by Argentinos. The "shadow" of the game was Krupoviesa, who childlishly insulted the ref for not calling a foul on him and will now be sanctioned with, at least a 4 match ban. :rolleyes:

The game agaisnt Racing, mentioned at the end of my previous post, was postponed and played last Wednesday November 1st. It was a 0-0 drw in which La Volpe started the game playing with 3 forwards. Despite the "intentions" to go forward, the team lacked the fluidity to get the ball clean to either Palacio, Guille or Boselli. It was a poor performance for Boca's standards, against a team that came out to play at home to NOT LOSE. :mad:

Yesterday was Boca's best game under La Volpe. Undisputably, the better flow was due to Marino being back in the squad after a month out injured (since the game against Nueva Chicago in La Volpe' 2nd match in charge). Arsenal are a young, well organized team, that are/were 4th in the tournie. At home, they had beated Boca the prior 2 years ... including the 4-1 that put in danger Basile's job early on in his succesful 14 months in front of Boca.

Individually, Boca's players had a much better game yesterday. Both Morel and Ibarra had much more flow on the flanks ... and as mentioned above, Marino gave Boca a much better passing game in traffic. Marino's role, and performance, also liberated Gago who was solely in charge of generating the football in previous weeks. But while the team looked as taking the lead in any moment, Arsenal scored early in the 2nd half from a corner kick. This forced La Volpe to move the team around with 2 subs that changed the course of the game.

From the original 5-3-2 formation to a much more offensive 4-2-1-3. Franzoia had replaced Neri at the start of the 2nd half ... but after Arsenal's goal, Boselli and Ledesma came in for debutant defender Cahais (great future ... Argentina's U-20 captain) and a tired Marino.

With this, plus the attitude to win the game that would give them the top of the table again, Boca turned the game with goals from Boselli and Palacio. It was an important result with 5 games left, plus the 2nd 45 of the suspended game against Gimnasia. This game will be played this coming Wednesday and might also see the return of Palermo to 1st team action after a month injured. Cata Diaz will also return after his suspension for 5 yellows.

Things look much brighter ahead of Wednesday's game. The 1st team is gradually seeing the return of the injured ... and the boost of coming from behind to beat Arsenal should serve to convince the players that the 45 minutes against Gimnasia can be over turned as well. The chance to extend the lead over River and Estudiantes (who play each other this coming Saturday) to 4 points could put Boca in cruise control towards its first tri in their history.

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Xyrus

11-11-2006, 04:27 AM

Vip

14-11-2006, 05:06 AM

There was some huge controversy in the Gimnasia LP game. You said it was suspended...weren't we up like 4-1? So La Volpe suddenly has the team scoring 4 in 45 minutes? That would be brilliant...is it true?

It was suspended at the end of 1st half back in September, with Gimnasia up 1-0. The 2nd half was played last Wednesday and Boca won 4-1.

After listening to Sunday's game at home against Quilmes, and watching the highlites of the game (NO TV for this game) ... it is certainly a relief to see that La Volpe has convinced himself that the team can play with the usual 4 defenders and with Gago as the sole DM.

The switch has generated that now instead of a defender :rolleyes:, the team has added a 3rd forward. There is a lot more fluidity in attack, with Guille, Palermo and Palacio. Marino has also been determinant, as he joins Neri in a very offensive midfield.

3 goals to Quilmes, 4 to Gimnasia and 2 to Arsenal in the last 3 games. Not bad.

Now, with only 4 games to play, the standings are:
Boca 38
Estudiantes 34
River 31
Arsenal 28

Remaining fixtures for each:
Boca: at Gimnasia(J); Colon; at Belgrano and Lanus
Estudiantes: at Newells; Racing; at Argentinos and Arsenal
River: Gimnasia LP; at Godoy Cruz; Chicago and at Velez
Arsenal: Central; at Independiente; San Lorenzo and at Estudiantes

The first tri title in Boca's history is inches away. But both of Boca's remaining away games are tricky fixtures against teams that are very enthusiastic at home, small pitches and pretty bad grounds. Lets hope the team holds to their performances.

And now that our cousins, River Plate, once again have almost no chance of challenging us for the title ...
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8827/elrompecuelloom5.jpg:D

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dimz

04-12-2006, 08:01 PM

Thank you Argentinos Juniors!! Now the championship is down to the final week as Boca lost to Belgrano yesterday. I only saw the second half and Boca didn't do enough in front of goal to deserve the victory. Hopefully they can pull it off on sunday against Lanus? and not have to worry about what happens in the Estudiantes match.

Vip

04-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Lord do I miss that word that Coco used to describe Battaglia "the equilibrist". The natural replacement for Battaglia is Ledesma.

Boca lacked equilibrium in midfield. This "carrilero" abortion, with players who are not, is a toss in the air. You can win games like that because the category of players allows you to do so. But playing away from home, in an uneven field, it is certainly a toss up.

And the subs were badly timed, badly executed. Why? Because all they did was alter the equilibrium of the team. When you take off Datolo (who is NOT a carrilero - jeez!) the logical replacement was to have Ledesma come in. Give the midfield the air and confidence ... help Gago recuperate the ball and occupy the right side of midfield. This would give Neri his best position, the left.

And if Marino was tired of running back to help Gago, his replacement should had been Franzoia. Those minute with backwards subs only generated disorganization ... minimized the players best performances and ... ATE THE FREAKIN CLOCK down.

The Boselli for Silvestre sub was an odd one as well. Silvestre was surprised of it. Lemme slow down and concentrate in this sub. Because it proves the lack of understanding of his players. If his intention was to add a head for the cross, it also tied up Ibarra in the back, as he had to stay along Cata and Morel. For what? Who was going to cross? Ibarra, from a few meters passed the center line? Of course it also ties up Morel. Because he can't push forward no more. With no natural crosser, what help does it provide to have 2 center forwards?

I think Boca has been earning points in this Apertura based on the quality of the players and not because of any of La Volpe's systems. Yes ... if you place 4 forwards in a game, and your team beforehand is superior to the rival, you will win. Even if you are shaken-up in the back far more than necessary. But his subs and initial formations are the typical actions of that poker player with lots of cash that knows that the bluff will be on his side most of the time.

In this confusion, the players didn't have their afternoon either to find the goal. The individuality that saves the afternoon for the team, and the coach by default, didn't happen this time. It shouldn't happen all the time.

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capo

05-12-2006, 06:38 AM

I think Boca has been earning points in this Apertura based on the quality of the players and not because of any of La Volpe's systems. Yes ... if you place 4 forwards in a game, and your team beforehand is superior to the rival, you will win. Even if you are shaken-up in the back far more than necessary. But his subs and initial formations are the typical actions of that poker player with lots of cash that knows that the bluff will be on his side most of the time.

In this confusion, the players didn't have their afternoon either to find the goal. The individuality that saves the afternoon for the team, and the coach by default, didn't happen this time. It shouldn't happen all the time.
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Great analysis as usual Vip, you've hit bull's eye there. La Volpe does NOT deserve to be remembered as coach who won Apertura 06 everything that Boca achives is thanks to the players and "old" system. I don't even know if it's good or bad that we are on our way of winning campeonato...bad because with Boca winning it makes La Volpe look good and safe, position that he shouldn't be occupying at all!!!!! The only way that we can dump this mexican trash is Boca tanking the season badly and with current players I just don't see it happening :mad:...do you hear anything on that front?? And I just wanted to thank you Vip for your updates, not as frequent as wished, but still very informative...believe me your time and effort is not being wasted!!!

Chauchey I'm fully aware of his background...to me he's mexican!!! ;)

chauchey

05-12-2006, 06:48 AM

mexican trash
He's from Argentina :p . That being said, i dont think he's that great a coach either.

Vip

05-12-2006, 03:04 PM

And I just wanted to thank you Vip for your updates, not as frequent as wished, but still very informative...believe me your time and effort is not being wasted!!!

No problems m8. I would post daily if there were others responding! :)

Here you have a HTTP - mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/36fydm) of yesterday's interview to La Volpe in Mariano Closs' "Un Buen Momento" on La Red. It is about 19' long and weights 9MB.

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dimz

05-12-2006, 06:18 PM

I try to respond based on what i've seen in the match but it's so hard to get match reports in english (i understand a bit of spanish but not that much).

capo

06-12-2006, 05:41 AM

No problems m8. I would post daily if there were others responding! :)

Here you have a HTTP - mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/36fydm) of yesterday's interview to La Volpe in Mariano Closs' "Un Buen Momento" on La Red. It is about 19' long and weights 9MB.
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Just recently graduated from college, so at the moment I have very little time to follow futbol and not having a satelite doesnt help...would love to contribute my views on Boca games, but can count on fingers how many of them I saw this past 3 months...newspapers, friends and fbtz (Vip) is what keeps me in a loop of things!!! And thanx for the interview will have a listen.

Vip

06-12-2006, 06:38 AM

Here is a small interview of Niembro with Gago from this morning.

HTTP - mp3 - 5' - 3MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/g6ot4t)

PS: Capo ... you are not d/ling the Boca games I am posting in the Video section? :o I've brought pretty much every game they've played, there.

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dimz

06-12-2006, 03:34 PM

PS: Capo ... you are not d/ling the Boca games I am posting in the Video section? :o I've brought pretty much every game they've played, there.

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Your a champion. ;)

Vip

07-12-2006, 01:52 AM

Here is an interview with La Volpe this morning at "De Una con Niembro". HTTP - mp3 - 13' - 6 MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ekbzty)

An this is an interview with Palermo this afternoon at "un Buen Momento" HTTP - mp3 - 10' - 5MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/yh7fiv)

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Edit: 12-08-06 6:00 pm

Here is La Volpe's full Press Conference of today, Friday ... day in which he talks to the media.

HTTP - mp3 - 22:41 - 10.3 MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m5lbrl)

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capo

09-12-2006, 06:03 AM

PS: Capo ... you are not d/ling the Boca games I am posting in the Video section? :o I've brought pretty much every game they've played, there.
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NO, I wasnt aware that someone consistently was cappin games :mad:...but too be honest (and this is super embarassin) I got Boca vs river from Clausura 06 sittin on my computer and still havent watched it yet...the funny thing is that I tried to avoid knowin the result soo hard that I still have no idea how it ended (tho knowin who won that campeonato somethin tells me it wasnt a bad result)...I will definitely watch Lanus game tho - we gotta take care of business with a vengance!!! Wow Vip is goin lokito with interviews :D - thanks for updates!!!

Nelly

11-12-2006, 12:46 AM

Whao........did Boca blow it? Is there a play off now or does goal difference count?

Imagine if Estudiantes hadn't drawn last weekend.:eek:

bluebottledc

11-12-2006, 01:04 AM

Play-off this Wednesday.

Big question is it on TV? and will anyone be capping?

Nelly

11-12-2006, 01:08 AM

I'm sure it must be.There was a stream of the River & Boca games from China earlier.The same channel has been pretty thorough in it's coverage of the Apertura recently so I see no reason why that wouldn't continue.Although,they did show all quarter and semi finals of the Copa Sudamericana and didn't show the final.:eek: What the hell's that about?

cavenaghi

11-12-2006, 02:41 AM

Vip has done a tremendous job during the whole apertura and I'm sure he will manage to get this final.

About the final. I think everybody will agree to say that's the best way to close this championship. Because, due to the pathetic Gimnasia-Boca, Boca's title would have been tarnished. And Estudiantes would have been, for many, the real champions. At least thanks to this "miracle" :rolleyes: , the whole thing will be clarified. And there will be only one and undisputed champion.
... well, let's hope that the referee, Giménez, will be great.

Vip

11-12-2006, 03:01 AM

Once again I could go on and on with the same analysis I've been doing for the past 3 months, this team has been shaken by a confused coach that:
1) Doesn't understand argentinian football
2) Is too stubborn to impose his touch even thou he doesn't have the players in this squad to play it
3) Has a terrible confusion in the way he sees football. When you change up your team based on the rival, is because you don't know how to impose your game. That is not for a team like Boca ... specially with the Boca of the past year.

And this is what Boca has lost since La Volpe. A few times I've heard La Volpe say, I don;t mind winning 6-4 ... bla bla bla. This is just impulsive reasoning without any thought, calmness nor analysis. From the tactically ordered teams of Bianchi ... to the solid and attractive footie of Basile, we arrive to this confused coach who has lost all that Boca gained in play in a decade. This includes the youths who are being burned with the fans. This really hurts inside the Boca family.

This Boca team need to play a 4-3-1-2 that turns into a 4-4-2 when needed. The team HAS to be Basile's. Why? Because if it was Russo, Alfaro, Falcioni or Simeone it would be the same! Boca's squad is structured to follow this formation.

All the La Volpe talk about the kids, Franzoia, Boselli, Bertolo, etc is like that turkey running without a head. The kids still don't have the games to be influential in a game. Much less in a team that is confused by the stuborness of his coach. When the players asked to play like before, and played a 4-4-2, the team regained its confidence and made that last sprint towards the title.

But the, "unfortunate now", demolition of a weak Colon, 4-1, gave La Volpe fuel to "sell" that this team could beat all other teams playing like this. With those freakin' carrileros, who are not.

This is the story of an announced death. La Volpe's own grave has been dug by him and his big mouth all along. Latest this past Friday during the press conference.

I just hope I am right in these 2 things:
1) La Volpe will be gone this Wednesday night, regardless of the outcome of the re-match. Have heard that Russo could go to San Lorenzo. Hopefully Macri can be smart enuff to phone him tonite and offer him the job.
2) With a 4-4-2 formation ... the one Basile used, with the logical sub man for man for the injured (like Ibarra with Calvo), Boca is still the favorite next Wednesday against Estudiantes. But having La Volpe and his discontrol with the subs ...

The key to this re-match is control of the midfield. Balance. So much needed tonite ... so much needed last Sunday.

Yes ... F*U*C*K YOU LA VOLPE.

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PS: Yes ... I will cap it. I'm 99.9% sure they will show it. As for tonite's game, I will encode overnite and u/l tomorrow.

My laptop has ben dying on me ... when I convert it can't do anything else if not it turns off in the middle of the convertion (takes 5-6 hours :o ). So overnite is the only way I can do it ... my last attempt thou was the last Futbol de 1ra. I had to convert it 3 times as twice the laptop crashed. :(

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cavenaghi

11-12-2006, 03:23 AM

Couldn't agree more about La Volpe, but at the same time I hope he will stay as long as possible on Boca's bench ;)

My laptop has ben dying on me ... when I convert it can't do anything else if not it turns off in the middle of the convertion (takes 5-6 hours :o ). So overnite is the only way I can do it ... my last attempt thou was the last Futbol de 1ra. I had to convert it 3 times as twice the laptop crashed. :(
And "Richard" giving you an extra match to cap. This guy is clearly your enemy :D

chauchey

11-12-2006, 03:27 AM

i sadly needed a nap in the worst way, so i ended up sleeping through the game. but i was wondering if La Volpe would come out with something other than a stinkified version of suck. If theres one thing i cant stand, its good and great teams, with sub standard coaching.
when i came downstairs, my dad told me that Maradona was crying, and his daughter was holding him, and the fans where stunned...and Boca lost.
Wheres the replay going to be held?

cavenaghi

11-12-2006, 03:30 AM

Wheres the replay going to be held?
Racing's stadium.

Vip

11-12-2006, 03:37 AM

Racing's stadium.

Originally it was scheduled at Racing, but Racing never notified AFA that the stadium is rented for a concert Wednesday nite. :rolleyes: But now, the game has been changed from Wednesday to Thursday as Wednesday is the "Day of the Police" in Bs As ... which will make it impossible for the security at the game. So the Racing stadium stands as the venue.

Estudiantes will act as the local ... in terms of organization, etc .. and for the fans location. It was after a lottery last Thursday when this was decided.

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cavenaghi

11-12-2006, 04:33 AM

Originally it was scheduled at Racing, but Racing never notified AFA that the stadium is rented for a concert that nite. :rolleyes:
:D
But, at the same time, who could have imagined?

Btw, everyone will be able to play? No suspensions?

Vip

11-12-2006, 05:00 AM

:D
But, at the same time, who could have imagined?

Btw, everyone will be able to play? No suspensions?

Only Calderon at Estudiantes for 5 yellows.

But I doubt that Ibarra will be in shape. Despite the pain in the ribs ... Morel should play.

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cavenaghi

11-12-2006, 09:23 AM

Only Calderon at Estudiantes for 5 yellows.
ONLY Calderon!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
At the same time if you consider that they have beatten River without Pavone y Veron...
That's where we can see the great job done by Simeone, they are a team. Reminds me Boca in a recent past... :rolleyes: (before the Actor came ;) )

Aimar-21

11-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Estudiantes seems to be the favourite to win the game in terms of psychology and recent form, however Boca is a team that has played many finals in the past years.
If La Volpe forgets about being the star of the team and uses tactics more "Basile-like" I think that Boca can win this.
It will surely be an interesting match, I wish I could see it live.

quickcutj

11-12-2006, 03:22 PM

First of all, Thanks to VIP for the heads up, I fully agree with you bro.

Message to La Volpe "IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT".
Yesterday's match was a shocker and painful to watch.

Roll on Wednesday.

Aimar-21

12-12-2006, 01:01 PM

Game changed day and stadium.
Wednesday at the Velez stadium

cavenaghi

12-12-2006, 01:38 PM

Game changed day and stadium.
Wednesday at the Velez stadium
... and the referee :D
It will be Pezzotta instead of Giménez.

Btw, they speak italian in Greece (your sig)? :confused:

Aimar-21

12-12-2006, 04:00 PM

... and the referee :D
It will be Pezzotta instead of Giménez.

Btw, they speak italian in Greece (your sig)? :confused:

Some people do yes :D
But it's from a banner ;)

Does anyone know if it'll be broadcasted in the US?

dimz

12-12-2006, 06:48 PM

Wed. Dec 13 Argentina Estudiantes Boca Juniors 5:00 p.m EST

according to Fox Soccer Channel. That's the best i can find so far. I'm hoping it will be on Fox Sports en Espanol live but nothing saying htat yet.

capo

12-12-2006, 07:55 PM

I sure do hope that tomorrow’s game is the last for our little mexican friend!!! The mistake was made in the beginin tho:

1) La Volpe is arguably a big name coach and those are never gonna be the followers – his own tactics are gonna be implemented in order to leave a footprint on the organization

2) Don’t change the record if it aint broken – was it Russo who was in charge of the team when Coco had friendlies with a national team? Who cares if Maradona doesn’t like him…the man did his job great (kept the mechanism runnin without changes) and just by lookin at him walkin across the field/bein on the sidelines you could tell the man was cryin inside of proudness like his life-long dream finally came true!!!

3) AND when you hire a coach who publicly admits that he knows nothing about futbol Argentino and barely ever watches it….

And still you bring him in…I’m sorry but Macri and Co just shot themselves in the foot along with us the fans. I told myself in August to shut up and give it a chance, but f*** am I tired of watchin a team that’s bein ripped apart (it feels like when you take a glove that’s 10 sizes smaller and still try to put your hand in). I sure do hope I get to hear La Doce sing – La Volpe comrade…LA CONCHA DE TU MADRE!!!!!!!!!!

bluebottledc

13-12-2006, 02:07 AM

according to Fox Soccer Channel. That's the best i can find so far. I'm hoping it will be on Fox Sports en Espanol live but nothing saying htat yet.
Dimz i'm not familiar with this channel ...but here's what i just found on Soccertv.com

Wed Dec 13 12:00PM Pacific
Wed Dec 13 01:00PM Mountain
Wed Dec 13 02:00PM Central
Wed Dec 13 03:00PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr 30 min LIVE
TyC Sports USA (http://www.soccertv.com/network.cfm?network=TYC)
Futbol de Argentina - Final
Boca Juniors vs Estudiantes de La Plata

What happens if its a draw after 90 mins?
I hope the Apertura wont be decided on PK shootout.

Just tried to send a rep to VIP but received the dreaded "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Vip again." I really enjoyed Vip's post match analysis...its sophisticated AND easy to read, ...and wish i had discovered this thread back in September/October. That when as a result of getting a DVR and a debate about the superclassico on Maxxed, I started watching Argentinian Football on FSC.

I'll be praying for Boca...and just wondered how confident are their loyal fans? What kind of reaction can we expect from that vast army of Boca fans if tomorrow goes badly? I understand that crowd violence is a continuing problem in Argentina.

cavenaghi

13-12-2006, 10:16 AM

What happens if its a draw after 90 mins?
I hope the Apertura wont be decided on PK shootout.
We would have extra time and then PKs, like in a classic final.

About the final, I don't think there is a favourite. Estudiantes is impressive but less experienced. Boca plays like shit but is the master when it comes to finals. So... :confused:
But we will have a great match for sure. Hope the referee won't waste it.

Vip

13-12-2006, 02:51 PM

About the final, I don't think there is a favourite. Estudiantes is impressive but less experienced. Boca plays like shit but is the master when it comes to finals. So... :confused:

Blame the shitty game on La Volpe. The Boca of Coco was a delight to watch. Hopefully the players will be allowed to play "their" game. Too bad that the fluidity is given thru games playing together ...

GAME GOES ON FOX SPORTS ESPANOL. Pre-match starts at 1:00 pm EST. There is a post match (Minuto 90) from 5-6 as well ... provided there is no ET and pks.

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cavenaghi

13-12-2006, 06:24 PM

Blame the shitty game on La Volpe. The Boca of Coco was a delight to watch. Hopefully the players will be allowed to play "their" game. Too bad that the fluidity is given thru games playing together ...
Of course. I'm not refering to the Boca from 3 months ago. I'm talking about the Boca which is about to play this final. In the same order, 3 months ago Estudiantes weren't that impressive. They are now.
We'll see... :rolleyes:

deviant

13-12-2006, 09:57 PM

wow unbelievable

deviant

13-12-2006, 10:12 PM

what a Stunning result first time in my life I see something like this happen.

Nelly

13-12-2006, 10:15 PM

Boca have only themselves to blame.Threw it away the last few weeks.Well done to Estudiantes,they were given a chance and took it.

Couldn't get the stream to settle properly so gave up.:mad: :mad: Would loved to have watched it live.

deviant

13-12-2006, 10:16 PM

cavenaghi

13-12-2006, 11:18 PM

it was a GREAT match to watch lots of action
Unfortunately I was watching... the radio :( Hope Vip will be able to release it.

Looks like Boca made a very solid first half. Scored early (great attitude by Palermo as usual when scoring against Estudiantes). But the double sent off seems to have changed the game. Then it was the great Estudiantes from the last weeks (or months) and once they equalized, their victory was written.
No big polemics as it seems (anyone?). Estudiantes is campeón and there isn't much to say. Even if they were helped by Boca (or Richard? :rolleyes: ), they were the best team during this Apertura!
Well done Simeone. Excellent come-back from Veron. And of course marvellous Pavone.

And if we remember how they were eliminated from the Libertadores, it could have been an even better season.

River

14-12-2006, 12:57 AM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/locoxriver/triste.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/locoxriver/TRIstisimo.gif
^(I know, it's like the one above)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/locoxriver/gallina-bostera.jpg

west501

14-12-2006, 05:16 AM

not gonna lie I'm pretty pleased with this result..it would just be an insult if boca won their third consecutive title..albeit a completely deserved one
the red and white of estudiantes is easy for any river plate fan to follow
oh but I kid
¡dios mio!

(can't wait to see the game)

Juan_ma

14-12-2006, 04:45 PM

que cagada :mad: Latorpe la embarro todita.

Juan_ma

14-12-2006, 04:47 PM

not gonna lie I'm pretty pleased with this result..it would just be an insult if boca won their third consecutive title..albeit a completely deserved one
So Boca didn't deserve it? :rolleyes:

west501

14-12-2006, 06:53 PM

So Boca didn't deserve it? :rolleyes:

no, sorry if I wasn't clear, they totally deserved to win this third tournament and it's a miracle they lost it!
the insult was to us and we deserved it because we've dropped the ball (and continue to do so by selling guys like higuain)

dimz

14-12-2006, 07:11 PM

no, sorry if I wasn't clear, they totally deserved to win this third tournament and it's a miracle they lost it!
the insult was to us and we deserved it because we've dropped the ball (and continue to do so by selling guys like higuain)
How do u suppose u'd hold onto someone like Higuain though? All of argentina's best players have left for pastures in Europe at some time or another. Are you just saying u shoulda held onto him longer?

cavenaghi

14-12-2006, 07:35 PM

How do u suppose u'd hold onto someone like Higuain though? All of argentina's best players have left for pastures in Europe at some time or another. Are you just saying u shoulda held onto him longer?
Of course we can't keep them for a long time. But when you sell a player who is in the first team for less than a year, what is your policy? That's River's future we're wasting. Just compare with Boca. Of course they sell them too but at least they play several seasons before leaving. Palacio, Gago...

west501

14-12-2006, 07:55 PM

well look at crespo and aimar, who were both 21 when they left
but even saviola, who left at 19 had played for 3 years
and what did we do during the seasons these geniuses played? we won, a lot
winning should be a greater priority than $, particularly after a year when we built a team that had the chance to win the next two (or three ;) ) only to sell the key players

deviant

14-12-2006, 08:19 PM

Well Im just happy my club mugged you both :p. I am also very happy for Simone and Veron. I dont think LaVolpe deserves all the credit for Boca's loss, the players themselves need to take the majority of the blame but atleast LaVolpe is out of your hair and next season you can blame the other manager ;).

Vip

14-12-2006, 11:45 PM

Boca threw away the title? Or did Estudiantes win it? It is Boca's fault, no doubt about it. Huge props to Estudiantes for never quitting ... and taking their chances. The applause from the Boca fans at the game towards the Estudiantes players as they took their champs lap yesterday is very rare in Argentinian footie. Yet, it is a recognition to a rival that fought with dignity and ended playing the best footie towards the end of the tournament. As much as losing the title hurts, the reward of getting rid of La Volpe almost off-sets the pain.

La Volpe has quit, and the club has accepted the resignation. This has to be the best news I'v heard in 88 days ... yes that is how long La Volpe lasted in charge of Boca. It was President Macri's worst mistake in a decade in charge of the club ... the most succesful decade with 16 titles in all competitions.

Yesterday, La Volpe had to twist the formation to show his hand in the team, once again. And fielded youngster Cahais to play in the center of defense. A kid who will be a future star at the club, captain of the U-20 NT, but with only 5 games with the 1st team. And he chose him to play the final and sit Silvestre.

These kind of actions have created confusion and lack of coordination in a very well oiled team until only 90 days ago. Ledesma was once again given the role in the right of midfield, and while on the field, before the unfair red card, gave Boca the equilibrium that the team was missing in most of La Volpe's run.

Yesterday, La Volpe failed once again with his subs. These kind of games require talent and experience. And once again chose a youngster like Franzoia as his last sub, when he had the experience of Delgado sitting on the bench. And used players out of position when he used Calvo once again in midfield. A bad mistake when preparing the list of subs allowed for the game.

Unfortunately, the youngsters didn't perform at the required level. No one doubts of their quality ... it is the lack of criteria from the now ex-coach that has burned the kids, and the rest of the prospects he used, with the fans. When the title is being played for, when the patience for nothing else than the result will calm down the fans. Horrible job, despite his use of the future of Boca.

A new page opens now with the search for the right replacement as head coach. The Libertadores 07 and the Clausura 07 will demand the signing of some new players to expand the squad, and the coach needs to have a say. Miguel Angel Russo is the favorite, thou still at Velez 'til June ... but it seems he might join this time. Bruno Marioni could be one of the first signings.

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Seems it will be Russo. :D

He is exactly what Boca needs, taking care of the youngsters and developing them wisely, without burning them. Serious ... a winner.

Russo Interview with Mariano Closs tonite - HTTP - mp3 - 6 min - 3MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/lncu6o)

La Volpe Interview with Mariano Closs tonite - HTTP - mp3 - 17 min - 8MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/0geq2k)

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Edit: 12-15-06 1:40 pm

Here is the start of "De una con Niembro" from this morning where Niembro talks with Russo and then Marioni ...

Niembro with Russo & Marioni 12-15-06 HTTP - mp3 - 29' - 13 MB (http://www.sendspace.com/uploaddone.html?i=11cbd79dfbc3b1eb48193054c7b2a855&l=udhje7)

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west501

15-12-2006, 09:36 PM

la volpe was a mess, I could tell from their first game that it wouldn't work..though I thought their early momentum would have helped them win this championship
honestly basile shouldn't have left..he should have turned down the seleccionado and stayed at boca

Vip

16-12-2006, 07:30 AM

Miguel Angel Russo was presented as Boca's new coach earlier tonite. This is really exciting news for the club, Russo will make the club challenge all tournies and at the same time make lots of $$ thru developing and forming the youngsters and buying properly in the local market.

Ex-Velez, Leandro Somoza, now at Villarreal, is the main candidate the club is focusing on to replace Gago. The arrival of Russo could make things smoother, as Somoza boomed under Russo at Velez.

Here is an interview between Mariano Closs and Somoza from last nite ...
HTTP - mp3 - 2.5 MB - 5' (http://www.sendspace.com/file/656s8d)

And here is Real Madrid's Pedja Mijatovic talking about the Gago and Higuain transfers at "El Larguero" ...
HTTP - mp3 - 3.6 MB - 8' (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vxfw8x)

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chauchey

18-12-2006, 05:20 AM

good. i was hoping that La Volpe would find the door out(no bad feelings, he just wasnt the guy for the job), but i didnt want to see anything about the game untill after i'd had a chance to watch it. And now that I have...i think this loss is the best thing that could have happened given the situation. It allows for other teams to feel that Boca is beatable, which increases the competition level all around, and it shows La Volpes incompitence in playing strategy, thereby getting Boca a new coach. This is a fairly fast replacement.

I wonder how long the managment where planning this move, and if this would have happened regardless of a Boca win?

Aimar-21

19-12-2006, 01:14 PM

The Gago transfer seems to have problems.
Boca wants 22 million Euros, while the Spaniards give 18 millions.
President Macri travelled to Madrid and while the people of Real thought it would be a matter of time, the negotiations didn't go through.

Vip

19-12-2006, 09:20 PM

Niembro talked with Macri this morning on the possible signings, the Gago soap opera and La Volpe ...

HTTP - mp3 - 10' - 5MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/k8guvy)

Tonite it has been known that Chelo Delgado has been separated from the squad ... sporting issues.

Also, Mariano Closs interviewed Bruno Marioni HTTP - mp3 - 9' - 4.5 MB (http://www.rogepost.com/n/4449648757) who is very close to sign with Boca as the negotiations with his ex-club Toluca are over.

PS: It seems like sendspace.com is down ... hopefully it will cme back to normal soon.

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chauchey

20-12-2006, 01:00 PM

So the Gago transfer is in jepardy eh? You'd think for a club that shells out money like its covered in the plague, would mind so much about 4 million Euros. But hey, what do i know? :p

River

21-12-2006, 06:02 AM

So the Gago transfer is in jepardy eh? You'd think for a club that shells out money like its covered in the plague, would mind so much about 4 million Euros. But hey, what do i know? :p

Well, it's done already.. Gago sacrificed the 15% commission that belonged to him for the transfer to go through..

Oh, and Marioni has made an agreement with Macri and will be joining Boca within the next few days.. Boca drawed Bolivar, Toluca, and a Peruvian team in their Copa Libertadores group, so we'll see the foward facing his ex-club next semester.

chauchey

21-12-2006, 10:21 AM

Gago sacrificed the 15% commission that belonged to him for the transfer to go through..
:eek: oh wow...thats alot of money! around 3 million Euros...

Vip

21-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Yep, Gago will not make that 15% of the transfer but will play at Real Madrid ... who in turn will make sure he gets that money thru out the 6 year contract.

I had heard a few weeks back that Real Madrid intend to use Gago's image as a marketing tool ... something like the succesor of Beckham. It is a marketing game, and Gago doesn't have the fame of Becks, but ... you never know who they will put across him once he is a Madrid player. If you know what I mean. :eek:

In terms of the Libertadores Cup, not too happy with the draw. Boca will face:
Bolivar from La Paz, Bolivia = 4000+ mts aboe sea level
Cienciano, Cuzco, Peru = 3000+ mts above sea level
Toluca, Mexico = 2500+ mts above sea level

It will certainly be draining for the players to have these games and also challenge the Clausura. But I do have lots of confidence in Russo, as he has managed to be the best team in the Group stages with Velez, despite playing, and winning, at LDU of Quito.

In terms of the new signings, Marioni and Clemente Rodriguez are 99% Boca players. The team is also looking for another goalie, no certainty whom yet. The other positions Boca will look to reinforce is the DM now that Gago is leaving.

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Edit 12/21/06 8 pm

Complementing today's Ole report on the "problems" between Riquelme and Villarreal's President. Cadena SER, Spain, has informed today that Riquelme most probably won't stay at Villarreal past June 07. His destination will be either BOCA or Man Utd.

Can you imagine Roman back at la Bombonera? :D

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Edit 12-22-06 11 am

It has been disclosed that Boca has an agreement with Real Madrid for the first priority for the following 3 players: Maidana, Cahais and Banegas

Banegas should take part of the U-20 NT along Cahais. Banegas had an injury on his knee, which didn't require a surgery. Cahais is the U-20 NT captain.

On other news, according to La Red, the defensive midfielder that Russo wants for Boca is PELLETIERI! Lets remember that River was quoted US$2.5 for Pelletieri.

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Aimar-21

23-12-2006, 08:51 AM

Vip or anyone other, have you heard anything about the return of youngster Mondaini ?
Are there any offers for him from other countries?

Vip

26-12-2006, 10:43 PM

Vip or anyone other, have you heard anything about the return of youngster Mondaini ?
Are there any offers for him from other countries?

No, I haven't heard anything about him. :o

In other news:

Bruno Marioni is now officially a Boca player for the next 2 years.

Clemente Rodriguez should have everything finalized tomorrow. He will come on loan for 6 months from Spartak Moskow.

Leandro Somoza wants to join Boca on loan for 6 months from Villarreal. The #s regarding his contract are close to being agreed. In the next couple days, Somoza will fly back to VIllarreal along a Boca rep to try to convince Villarreal on the loan for 6 months. Somoza played under new Boca coach, Russo, while at Velez. He would be a great signing for the Libertadores campaign, as well as the Clausura.

Today it was disclosed that Boca are in the move to get back , on loan, Pocho Insua from Borussia Monchengladbach. It was always a dream of Pocho to play the Libertadores ... and Boca needs a playmaker as Russo likes to play with one.

Pampa Calvo is with one foot in Independiente. A shame, IMHO.

And finally, Chelo Delgado would like to stay at Boca despite the intentions of the Boca management to terminate his contract. The parts would have to agree in the #s ... Chelo doesn't want to leave Boca thru the back door. So ...

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chauchey

26-12-2006, 11:25 PM

insua...the younger brother? didnt liverpool buy him? Is there another brother I dont know about? like the Staal brothers in the NHL, or the Sutters? :D

Vip

26-12-2006, 11:37 PM

insua...the younger brother? didnt liverpool buy him? Is there another brother I dont know about? like the Staal brothers in the NHL, or the Sutters? :D

The Insua for Liverpool is a youngster and is not related to Pocho Insua ... who played for Boca when the team won the Apertura 05, Sudamericana 05, Clausura 06, and Rcopas 05 & 06 ... and that Basile took to the last 2 friendlies.

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Aimar-21

27-12-2006, 10:34 AM

Vip

27-12-2006, 08:24 PM

vip, why is Calvo leaving ?
Delgado is something like a legend, but his performances were not that good so I understand it.
What goes with Palermo ? Will he leave now that Marioni is coming because of the bad relationships with Russo ?

I wouldn't had let Calvo leave ... moreso in the local market. As to Delgado, he had little opportunities, and when he got them, he got injured. :rolleyes: But Marioni will fight for a starting place along Palermo and Palacio. I don't doubt he will gain the spot ahead of Palermo, as he has lots more movility, and is good enuff in the air.

Juan Manuel Llaneza, from Villarreal, spoke to Niembro this morning. It looks quite difficult for Somoza to join Boca ... but one never knows. He also spoke about Riquelme.

HTTP - mp3 - 2.5 MB - 5:30 mins (http://www.sendspace.com/file/n44h5p)

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chauchey

28-12-2006, 03:34 AM

The Insua for Liverpool is a youngster and is not related to Pocho Insua ... who played for Boca when the team won the Apertura 05, Sudamericana 05, Clausura 06, and Rcopas 05 & 06 ... and that Basile took to the last 2 friendlies.

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Thanks for the clarification. :) As for our new forward, i am eager to see him play, and perhaps light a fire under the sometimes unmotivated Palermo. I just hope palermo doesnt get disgrunteled and leave.

Vip

28-12-2006, 04:01 PM

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/12/28/fotos/f016ch03.jpg

Boca will go after "Chaco" Torres for the DM position, as Villarreal refused to let Somoza go if not for a high $$ amount. Russo wants a fast DM ... which makes sense considering Marino and Battaglia ain't that fast.

Pelletieri was left aside for now, due to the $$ that Lanus was asking. Too bad. :o

Calvo has refused a move and wants to stay to fight for a spot.

Boca will try to go after Insua on loan for 6 months, but it is tuff ... Borussia Monchengladbach is fighting to stay in hte top flight of the Bundesliga. Could they try to go after Gracian? No word as to who the "enganche" that Russo needs could be.

Basile and Russo met in Punta del Este ... discussing the Boca world. Something that never happened with the Mex-Arg. ;)

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Edit 12-29-06 10:30 pm

This could be some of the last "official" news coming out of the club this year ...

Mariano Closs interviewed Gracian, voiced to be one of the new signings for Boca ... he then interviewed Luis Salvador, Monterrey's VP, and discussed the possibility of Gracian joining Boca and the possible swap plus $$, with Cardozo moving to Mexico ... and finally, Closs interviewed Boca's VP, Pedro Pompilio, in relation with the Gracian possible move. Along Closs is Martin Costa, La Red's Boca reporter, who knows the in and outs of everything that cooks at Boca. With years of listening to Costa, he is 95% of the time on the money. ;)

Excerpts of these interviews appear on the online news of Argentina's newspapers ... but nothing like the full source (if you speak Spanish that is :o ).

Closs with Gracian + Post commentary - HTTP - mp3 - 30' - 13.5 MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/4jxjsr)

Closs with Luis Salvador - HTTP -mp3 - 10' - 5MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/hvjeu5)

Closs with Pompilio - HTTP - mp3 - 9' - 4MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5f34p5)

Happy New Year to all the Boca fans around the world. :)

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Edit: 01/04/07 10:30 am

Boca's main targets to complete the allowed signings are Torres (Racing) and Gracian (Monterrey-Mex)

To start, Datolo going to Racing for Torres is out of the question. Torres will be free in June, and has a written agreement with Racing to let him go for $500,000. The problem with that is that Torres, with this, has his transfer with him, for which he will ask Boca some $$ too. Plus the contract. But the Datolo thing came out of Racing, who have no leverage whatsoever on Torres any more.

Now, the Cardozo for Gracian thing. I heard the interview this morning. That is what Monterry wants and it depends if Russo will agree, as he had plans for Cardozo. Monterrey won't take only cash for him, unless it is a ridiculous amount. But to be realistic, Boca needs an enganche, which Datolo is not. At least, nothing compared to Gracian. The other major plus with Gracian is that he is really good on free kicks, both scoring and assisting for headers. We were lacking in this department for a long time now ... not even Pocho Insua was that good at free kicks.

So if you ask me, I think Neri will be going to Mexico and we'll get Gracian. Neri used to play the left side of midfield ... there Russo can place either Marino or Datolo. Marino had his best footie at Newells playing that position ... and Datolo is left footed and not an enganche, so his natural position is left midfield. But not a useless left midfielder ala Bigoton ... he won't do the carrilero BS.

Today i heard an interview with U-20 NT coach, Tocalli. He had HUGE words for Banega. Torres will most probably end up at Boca and I would imagine we will also see some of Banega this semester ... specially in the days before an away Libertadores match.

Lastly ... Calvo and Morel are staying. With Gracian and Torres, Boca will finalize their purchases. We can only get 5 new players (one for Krupo who is injured) for the Clausura. And we don't need players for the Libertadores, as we have 2 players per postion already.

Don't ask and don't worry about other teams buying several players, like River. They can only use 4 in this Clausura ... the rest will have to only play in Libertadores. All that BS is the big business of the"grupos empresarios" and the ones who have the say as to who plays. It is all "under the table" business, commisions and so ... stripping the club from income, as they use the club solely as a front window to "show" their players and then sell them. Small clubs ... :rolleyes:

Update: Boca seems to have offered, early this morning, to swap Cardozo for 80% of the transfer of Gracian. Will wait and see what Monterrey answers.

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bosterosoy

26-02-2007, 12:15 AM

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Vip

14-03-2007, 06:13 AM

Mauricio Macri, Boca's President for the past 11 years, has stepped down temporarily until mid July, in order to concentrate in his political campaign. Vice President Pedro Pompilio is the new President for the next 4 months. Macri's 2nd and last term ends in December 07.

Meanwhile, Boca arrived in Mexico for the game tomorrow nite against Toluca for the Libertadores. The probable formation is:

Caranta
Ibarra - Maidana - Cata Diaz - Morel
Ledesma - Battaglia - Banega - Neri Cardozo
Marioni - Boselli

Both Palermo and Riquelme stayed in Bs As recovering from minor injuries and should play Sunday against Gimnasia LP. Meanwhile, Palacio is recovering from a broken toe, and will be back probably in 7-10 days.

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fabri7it

15-03-2007, 08:41 AM

ciao a tutti
I'm looking for boca vs rosario central match of clausura '07 and boca vs bolivar of libertadores '07: my torrent client is open, there's no seeders.
please can you help me?

fabri

chauchey

02-04-2007, 03:22 AM

so what do you guys think our chances of winning the Super Classico(apr 15) are? :) I'll give us the edge because of Roman.

Vip

10-04-2007, 05:07 PM

It is a difficult game as every Superclasico. Playing at home, and without injury problems (River has both forwards- Farias and Falcao injured) could tilt the favoritism to Boca's side.

But ... lets remember that River is built to play counter attack. And this game suits them the best. They need a good result to revert their humillation in the Libertadores.

I expect to see a highly motivated Roman. And another page in Palermo's book of "heroism". :D The only doubt seems to be if Silvestre or Clemente Rodriguez will play. The 2 possible formations are:

Caranta
Ibarra - Silvestre - Cata Diaz - Morel Rodriguez
Ledesma - Banega - Neri Cardozo
Roman
Palacio - Palermo

or

Caranta
Ibarra - Cata Diaz - Morel Rodriguez - Clemente Rodriguez
Ledesma - Banega - Neri Cardozo
Roman
Palacio - Palermo

Also, it is very possible that this could be Guillermo Barros Schelotto's last game at Boca ... if he accepts the offer to play in the MLS for Columbus, OH. :o

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akd

12-04-2007, 08:18 AM

Should be an interesting game, lets see how well the "turtle" performs :p

Vip

18-04-2007, 07:35 AM

Riqeulme talks about the Superclasico with Mariano Closs

HTTP - mp3 - SPANISH (http://files.filefront.com/Roman_con_Closs_en_Un_Bue7mp3/;7270756;;/fileinfo.html)

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dimz

18-04-2007, 04:23 PM

Just watched hte match yesterday. **Spoilers below**

Alright, it was a joy to watch and wel worth the wait. I thought both teams played very attractive attacking football and made for a game that i would rate at about 9/10. Anyway, Boca dominated hte first half and really should have put the game to bed before halftime but Roman, Rodri and Martin missed chances to do that. I don't htink Roman had a great game but he was nevertheless involved in most of hte play.

Ledesma played a great first half and scored a fantastic goal (the whole thing was a great move by Boca) but he started to give hte ball away too much in the second half, and actually it was his mistake that caused the River goal.

River upped the tempo in the second half and did so by trying to use their midfield 3 to close down Neri, Ledesma, Banega and Roman immediately as they got the ball. This worked well on Ledesma who looked tired in the second half. Also they managed to win the ball from Banega easily sometimes, but he just looked inexperienced. He'll be a very good player in the future but needs to learn crucially that great midfielders never give the ball away.

However, the man of hte match was El Cata! He was IMMENSE and absolutely everywhere River tried to go. Morel was also incredible but Cata was a massive rock, he and Morel were fantastic in the middle.

cavenaghi

23-04-2007, 02:02 AM

dimz

23-04-2007, 07:55 PM

Vip

27-04-2007, 06:43 AM

Hey, Vip, I saw somewhere that you had the audio de la SER for the Barça-Getafe game. Would it be possible for you to upload it? I think the commentators del PPV were asleep or something like that but it just didn't fit with Messi's performance.
That's the problem with the spanish channels: either the guys are just completely stupid (la Sexta) or they're just boring (canal+). Antena 3 isn't that bad though.
Anyway, would be great if you could do that :)

Sorry if that's not really Boca related... :o

I will upload the audio of the goal form Cadena Ser ... I actually posted the link to the stream, is it dead?

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Great fokin result from Boca tonite. Needing to win by at least 3 goals to secure a spot in the Round of 16 without being concerned of the other group game between Toluca and Cienciano.

Boca had a second task ... to win by 6 to avoid facing either of the Mexican clubs in the next round, with the problems of the altitude and the long travelling. Boca won a la Boca ... 7 nil. What a party. :D

Now, Boca is in the bottom half of the bracket, which looks like this:

Flamengo v Parana
Gremio v Sao Paulo

Libertad v Defensor
Velez v Boca

This means that Boca could face Libertad in 4ters and Flamengo/Sao Paulo in semis. It also means that we avoided the top club in the group stages, Santos, and all 3 Mexican teams.

It won't be easy, but it leaves Boca in better shape to fight for the local tournament as well. This Sunday is against Racing, at home. And in mid next week at home against Velez for the 1st leg of the round of 16.

It is important to note that part of the difficulty of the Libertadores is that starting next week, there is a Libertadores game every midweek for the next 8 weeks, provided that we reach the final.

Dale Boooooooooooooooo!

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deviant

27-04-2007, 08:08 AM

now thats the Boca I know what a game MARIONI!

cavenaghi

28-04-2007, 01:27 AM

I will upload the audio of the goal form Cadena Ser ... I actually posted the link to the stream, is it dead?
Actually, I meant the audio for the whole game... :o
If you can't that's no big deal.
Boca won a la Boca ... 7 nil. What a party. :D
Doesn't deserve a nice release? :rolleyes:

Vip

30-04-2007, 04:39 PM

Actually, I meant the audio for the whole game... :o
If you can't that's no big deal.

Doesn't deserve a nice release? :rolleyes:

I might have erased the whole game after watching the game with the Cadena Ser audio. I'll check and let you know.

As to the Boca v Bolivar game, you'll get the release probably tonite/tomorrow. I'm having trouble converting :o ...

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cavenaghi

30-04-2007, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the efforts, Vip :)
We will make publicity for this release if you succeed in converting it ;)

west501

03-05-2007, 02:40 AM

I don't think I'm spoiling anything
but I'm watching the libertadores and I think that was one of the most ridiculous plays I have ever seen
I hope to see a year suspension

Vip

03-05-2007, 05:40 AM

Boca brought La Volpe to coach in Argentina ... and Boca might have just bought his plane ticket back to Mexico.

Let him go coach the Mexican players, and denigrate them with his arse manners. You know, he has been pulling the "I'm a Spanish speaking World Champ", therefore "I can coach without manners" and "use my team as my personal playstation". Even thou he was as useless as a motorcycle ashtray in the WC78 team ... third goalie??? LOL :rolleyes:

I do feel sorry for Velez. Used to like their support of the youth systems, the seriousness of their processes, the professionality of their club management. But they fuct up big time when they went after La Volpe. Gamez and his infatuation with Macri ... he simply did it to create more bad feelings between the clubs, taking his personal problems to the club.

Tonite, Velez's atitude was of nervousness ... of perhaps feeling that Boca had disrespected them by not giving a sh*t and facing them this early in the competition. I have not seen Velez so out of control in many years, if ever. All of this is just the accumulation of frustration and the little chemistry with their coach.

On Boca's end, the team played brilliantly. Unfortunately, the player I had the higher hopes on for tonite, Neri, was the weak link. Props to the silent Silvestre for a good job in the back. And of course to Ledesma, Rodrigo and Roman. Boca should had finished the job earlier tonite. So many missed chances ... again.

Yesterday, Roman gave an interview to Closs. He mentioned that the player with the best quality in the team was Marino. A hint of whom he feels should replace him when he doesn't play ... a hint to have him next to him weaving some good football at some point in this coming 2 months.

I'm just glad we played in Bs As this game. We could had played in Santa Fe, had any of their teams made it to the Libertadores Round of 16. Because Wednesdays are for Libertadores you know?

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cavenaghi

03-05-2007, 09:36 AM

I don't think I'm spoiling anything
but I'm watching the libertadores and I think that was one of the most ridiculous plays I have ever seen
I hope to see a year suspension
You're right! Sessa is the stupidest man on earth and proved it once again.
v/jCsVJqpS5O4

Some news from La Nacion:
El Ñol Solano quiere cumplir su sueño de volver

El peruano Nolberto Solano, de 32 años, quien actualmente juega en Newcastle, de Inglaterra, tiene un contrato allí hasta junio de 2008, pero su deseo es volver a Boca. Para tal fin, ya hubo algunos contactos.

Battaglia tiene decidido irse y el Chelo lo quiere

Sebastián Battaglia (foto) está enemistado con el DT Russo porque perdió su titularidad y anoche no fue ni siquiera al banco. Ya está pensando en irse, en junio próximo. La opción más firme es Belgrano: su amigo, el Chelo Delgado, quiere convencerlo.

Cvitanich, un nombre que suena fuerte en Boca

En julio próximo Darío Cvitanich podría ser uno de los refuerzos de Boca; al menos, es el apellido que suena más fuerte. El 80 % de su pase pertenece a Banfield y el 20 % restante al club de Baradero del cual surgió.

Cvitanich at Boca.... :( :( :(

May261999

04-05-2007, 04:24 AM

Disgusting challenge. What are the papers saying (I don't read Spanish)?

dimz

04-05-2007, 04:43 PM

oh my god, that challenge was terrible! Has he gotten a massive suspension for it? I'm glad the referee caught it right away and i'm also quite surprised he got out of La Bombonera alive.

Vip

25-05-2007, 05:33 PM

Posted on 05-07-07 ...

A tricky game at the Diego Armando Maradona. With a smaller field, it is easier to close on spaces. With a tall defense, the crossing to look for Palermo is minimized.

So what the team needed was to play fast, precise, one touch football. And that is precisely what this Boca 1st squad would find very difficult. The tiredness reduces speed ... and turns you imprecise.

Therefore, Boca got a great result after being down 2-0 in the first half. Unfortunately, Roman didn't have his day at all yesterday. And risked being injured in that ackward landing.

Now that the # of games will start saturating the players, Russo need to find a starting 11 for the local tournament that keeps fighting for the title. For me, Marino and Mondaini have to start playing instead of Roman and Palacio. And have either Boselli or Marioni replace Martin. The Libertadores is of utmost importance for the club and fans.

A Clausura title that is up for grabs ... even River still has a chance if they beat both San Lorenzo and Estudiantes. But I see el Pincha way too strong. They have only lost to Boca.

So Many Moments of Happiness ...

This has to be the best 24 hrs in a while. Here is why:

1) First, the conmemoration of the "Paternity Day" yesterday ... a homage to Palermo's 3rd goal in the Libertadores 4ters, 2nd leg of 2000 against River. For those not familiar with this, Palermo made his return, after 6 months injured with cruxiate ligaments damage, for a few minutes at the end of the game. And scored the 3rd despite playing on "one leg". Nothing more humillating for the gallinas. If someone has a link to the goal or has a Youtube link, please post it in this thread. I surely have it but have to dig for it in my archives.

2) Last nite, a return to that Libertadores Cup spirit that saw Boca reach 4 Libertadores finals, and win 3, and 3 Intercontinental finals, and win 2, between 2000 and 2004. Not to add the 2 Sudamericanas of '04 and '05. A solid performance that left no doubts of the superiority over 180 minutes. The delight of watching Juan Roman Riquelme dribble and score despite being injured ... showing all those losers that criticize him, that he's got the BIGGEST balls when it comes to playing with heart and for the shirt he loves.

3) Passarella has just confirmed he is staying at River, at least until this December. This has to be VERY GOOD news for all Boca fans around the globe.

Under Passarella, River has played 6 tournaments, 3 local and 3 international, and has failed in ALL attempts to challenge any of those titles. Sigan participando.

Has bought players that get exhibit at River, yet the owners are private 3rd parties ... minimum cash inflow into River and postponment of their youth systems. Players with no heart that are a profitable business for his wealthy fishing mates and some player agents.

After failing miserably last semester, prepared their team to win the Summer tournament, and burn down with injuries, due to absurd physical preparation during pre-season, midway into the season. He couldn't handle the opposition he received last December. And prepared his team to quickly revert the tide ... win the meaningless summer tournament and add to the short term illusion of the signings. Thinking of his job and his "investments" more than in his club.

Passarella is indeed helping Boca gather more fans, as their fans have forced vacations at least a month prior to the end of the tournaments ... after watching Boca twice a week, for sooo long, I'm sure many of those fans are wearing the blue an yellow for good. It is said that some of those gallinas were fans because River used to play attractive football. Bingo!

All bad at River is good at Boca, it is indeed the rule of inverse rewards. So props to Passarella for staying, we all know he was a Boca fan since birth. We can only hope he holds into power until the end of his contract in December 2009. I would offer to organize a Telethlon to pay for his wages. With another 100% increase if necessary to see him stay even longer.

Aimar-21

25-05-2007, 09:53 PM

Do you think the Colombians are a better team than Libertad ?
From what I've seen they have a strong home support.

cavenaghi

28-05-2007, 04:06 PM

after watching Boca twice a week, for sooo long, I'm sure many of those fans are wearing the blue an yellow for good. It is said that some of those gallinas were fans because River used to play attractive football. Bingo!
You're right about Passarella but who gives a fuck about some assholes changing sides? You can have them and keep them. I don't know any true millonario (or even bostero) changing colors just because his team is in a bad situation.
But you're right "the times they are a-changin'". And when you consider the fact that the only place in Argentina were the Bush family is safe is en la Bombonera, then you really understand that some things have changed... :cool:
Enjoy the good times. I'm sure you remember where you were few years ago. Those are cycles. And we will be back (maybe not in the next few months... :o :D ). Meanwhile we just win the clasicos :p

Vip

28-05-2007, 08:05 PM

Do you think the Colombians are a better team than Libertad ?
From what I've seen they have a strong home support.

They seem to be as unpredictable as Once Caldas was in 2004. It is a tricky semis with the away goal rule in effect now (which wasn't the case in '04)

Cavenaghi ... it is a bit of sarcasm. No one really cares for those "swingers". It is more about re-stating that River is out of the Libertadores and that Boca is playing good football. :)

El Kaiser is ruining you guys.

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chauchey

28-05-2007, 11:12 PM

Man, Boca has really elivated their play as of late. I've watched the last 4 games of Boca's in the Copa Lib, and they sure are entertaining!
VIP, you're last post was way to short. Not up to snuff. I suggest you edit in another...ohhh...4 paragraphs at least. ;) :D :P
I eagerly await the next round. Who are we playing? I'd google it, but i'm trying to avoid spoilers from some games i'm watching on replay, and i have a consistant past history of them 'finding' me. :p lol. Thanks guys.

cavenaghi

29-05-2007, 12:31 AM

It is more about re-stating that River is out of the Libertadores and that Boca is playing good football. :)

El Kaiser is ruining you guys.
Thanks for reminding us ...

:( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Pompey Lad

29-05-2007, 10:05 PM

Roman played class when he came on v Gimnasia. I only see the Second Half (Thanks to VIP :D) and wasn't dissapointed.

Well played Boca. Keep playing swish football.

Vip

29-05-2007, 10:37 PM

I eagerly await the next round. Who are we playing? I'd google it, but i'm trying to avoid spoilers from some games i'm watching on replay, and i have a consistant past history of them 'finding' me. :p lol. Thanks guys.

Boca is playing this Thursday away at Cucuta. Return leg of this semis is next Wednesday at La Bombonera.

For the Clausura, Boca visits Colon in Santa Fe this Sunday. The following Sunday we host Belgrano.

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chauchey

30-05-2007, 02:57 AM

thanks for the info VIP. :)

dimz

30-05-2007, 08:36 PM

Barcelona close to deal for Argentine Palacio

Barcelona are close to sealing a deal for Argentine international striker Rodrigo Palacio. The 25-year-old has been tracked for months and Barca have now agreed a fee with his club Boca Juniors for a reported €22million (£14.9million).

The player is one of the most highly-rated players in South America, although there is a stumbling block in the deal as Barca insist they will only deal with Boca Juniors - who own a majority 32.5 per cent stake in the player.

Boca must now negotiate with the other shareholders involved with Palacio - his former clubs Huracan and Banfield, and his agent Juan Paladino.

'We have reached to an agreement with Barcelona for transferring him in July,' Boca vice-president Pedro Pompilio told Radio Mitre.

'But Barcelona has said to us that the condition for doing the transfer is that they want to negotiate only with us, so we have to get in touch with Huracan, Banfield and the agent Juan Paladino because they are the owners of the rest of the percentage of the player.

'We have been in negotiations with Huracan for many months but we haven't reached a financial agreement because they want much more than the $2.5 million that we have offered to them.

'As they have been relegated to a lower division now they want more money than what we had agreed sometime ago.

'The same happens with Paladino. The only ones with whom we don't have any problem is with Banfield because they have a little percentage and they are ok with what we do with the player.'

He added: 'I expect to have all these negotiations resolved as soon as possible because it's a good financial offer for everyone and if we don't reach to an agreement, Barcelona isn't going to wait a long time, they will go out and buy another player. That's what we are trying to make the other parts involved to understand.'

link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=435155&cc=5739)

How did this slip under my radar?! i'm delighted for him, i've always liked Rodri and i just hope he has a better time at Barca than another of my favourite Boca players did......

Pompey Lad

08-06-2007, 01:47 AM

Roman just scored for Boca :D 2-0 v Cucuta.

Sad news about Palacio, he is very talented and Boca seem to lose alot of players to big clubs.

EDIT: When does Roman's loan expire?...////

chauchey

12-06-2007, 04:08 PM

he will be a free agent at the end of this season. So in a couple weeks he'll be free to sign where-ever he wants to.

Vip

12-06-2007, 10:45 PM

he will be a free agent at the end of this season. So in a couple weeks he'll be free to sign where-ever he wants to.

No Chauchey.

Roman's loan with Boca ends June 30th. After which, he needs to go back to his club, Villarreal, where he has contract for 2 more years.

There are many offers for Roman, but I would bet he will refuse to go to any of those clubs (he has the right to decide where he goes) and will ask to stay at Boca.

If Boca wins the Libertadores ... I can sign right now he will stay at Boca 'til December at least, since both Boca and him would want him for the Club World Cup in Tokyo this December.

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chauchey

13-06-2007, 12:43 AM

cool. thanks for clearing that up VIP. :)

brain26

14-06-2007, 02:13 AM

Good luck to Boca tonight, the stadium and fans are amazing.

sanmarcos

14-06-2007, 04:05 AM

Amazing, just amazing atmosphere. By the way, brain26, who is that hottie in your signature?

Pompey Lad

14-06-2007, 11:36 AM

Amazing, just amazing atmosphere. By the way, brain26, who is that hottie in your signature?

His missus.

brain26

14-06-2007, 12:47 PM

Amazing, just amazing atmosphere. By the way, brain26, who is that hottie in your signature?

that's the wife, she even watched the game with me and was impressed with the atmosphere.

deviant

14-06-2007, 07:59 PM

Riquelme is truely a magician

dimz

15-06-2007, 02:14 AM

that's the wife, she even watched the game with me and was impressed with the atmosphere.
Mighty! she's quite fit! Alright i'll leave you two alone now. :D

Thanks for the match Brain. I jjust watched it and yes i second deviantmexa's assessment, Riquelme is a MASTER MAGICIAN!!

west501

15-06-2007, 02:14 AM

Riquelme is truely a magician

pure artistry

chauchey

15-06-2007, 05:44 AM

he's playing like he loves the game....simple as that. Clearly the dominant player out there, passing skills that nobody on Gremio came close to matching, and it showed in the score. One thing that i really like about Riquelme, is that he gets himself into free kick range, and if he see's he doesnt have a good play to make, he'll hang onto the ball, and protect it, untill eventually someone has to foul him because they cant take it away due to incredible body positioning. You dont see players anywhere in the world, do it nearly as often, or as well as him. Makes me proud to wear my Boca jersey. :)

Aimar-21

15-06-2007, 08:58 AM

Grande Riquelme

Ledesma is pure class

Pompey Lad

15-06-2007, 12:42 PM

Riquelme should come to Pompey. :p

I wish.

Juan "Ri-artist" Riquelme :D

Aimar-21

21-06-2007, 05:08 PM

http://www.26noticias.com.ar/adjuntos/imagen/54912.jpg

VAMOS BOCA CAMPEON

Vip

22-06-2007, 11:34 PM

Vamos Boca Campeon: :D

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4958/finalesporlatvad9.jpg

http://www.lamitadmas1.com.ar/partidoxpartido/2007Libertadores/gremio-boca/campeon2007-1.jpg

http://www.lamitadmas1.com.ar/partidoxpartido/2007Libertadores/Gremio-Boca/Duele.jpg

http://www.lamitadmas1.com.ar/partidoxpartido/2007Libertadores/Gremio-Boca/2007.jpg

:D

How Boca plans on financing to hold on to Roman: Spanish - mp3 - 5.8 MB - 12' - HTTP (http://files.filefront.com/JC+Crespi+2007+06+22mp3/;7863685;;/fileinfo.html) Enjoy!

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chauchey

24-06-2007, 10:45 AM

River

24-06-2007, 09:26 PM

Villarreal have requested $4,000,000 dollars for another 6-month loan. This makes Riquelme's stay seem very complicated.

Opinions?

Vip

24-06-2007, 09:57 PM

....ooooooooo....that was a jab if i've ever seen one... :eek: :D Seriously though, i cant wait till River has a great team again, so we can get hyped for some awesome Super Classico's!

Vamos Boca Campeon!!!! :D :D :D

They already spent US$ 20 million this semester ... the most EVER spent on a team in a season. That makes it all so much more joyful ... their season was a complete disaster. :p

Well, it is not really that they spent. Businessmen buy the players and place them at River ... or they buy them together. It is all a BIG mafia style business, where their club simply sees their youngsters displaced and the bought players come and go with little profit to their club.

But they won the Summer Tournament! ;)

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Edit 07-02-07

One thing I can assure you guys is that Roman won't go to a non-spanish speaking country. He places his family above everything, and his kids are in school time already.

Having said that, and as I have been saying since early January in the radio show, and then lately in written, Riquelme has no interest in searching new waters. He has a contract for 2 more years, where he is making very good money. He DOESN'T want more ... he wants his family and personal happiness. But he also wants to help add glory to his beloved club ... and that is what he just did and wants more ... read: Club World Cup + Sudamericana + Apertura 07 etc . He has been a part of 3 Libertadores titles for Boca ... he has been a part of 1/2 the titles of one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Roman is getting the same wages at Boca as he did at Villarreal. The guy is a lot more "normal" than most think or know. What he likes the most is getting to the neighborhood corner and hanging out with his friends drinking mate (argentinian tea). He is indeed SET FOR LIFE with what he has made and will make under his present contract.

I highly doubt he will accept a new challenge at a new club in Spain. The Atletico deal is already out of the table ...

There are 2 situations left. First, that Villarreal holds on to him and sits him in the stands for the semester/year/2 years of his contract. But Villarreal would have to pay 9 million Euros that the club's economy doesn't have according to Villarreal reporters.

Or the second, that Villarreal lets Boca use Roman yet again for another semester, and shifts the contract burden to Boca. Boca's authorities have been saying it is impossible to hold on to him as a strategy. They don't want to pay a loan on top of the salary ... nor intend to buy a player that in 18 months will be set to be a free agent.

In summary, I don't see Boca losing the player ... even thou all the present talk does create headlines and sells papers in Argentina (as Boca fans want to know what happens to their idol) and the corresponding paper in Spain, Italy, Germany or England.

The "move" to have Roman stay at Boca won't happen before mid-August. It is part of Boca's negotiation to be the last resort that solves the problem between Roman and Villarreal ... not the bully club that goes out of its way to secure him.

Lastly ... Boca has over US$ 20 million sitting in the bank after the sale of Gago. This semester, despite the investment for Roman (2 million), there has been good income in prizes for winning the Libertadores. Plus the CWC $$ coming. And Boca will get 20% on the excess of US$35 million of any future sale of Tevez. And have the $$ coming from Mallorca for Trejo. Not to add the couple sales in process atm. Boca is financially stable and capable of holding on to Roman.

Sorry to the peeps who wanted to watch Roman play at their clubs. You can always keep coming to MFF and look for the 2 Boca game of the week, courtesy of someone I know. ;)

PS: The image in my sig:
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/06/27/thumb/f024bh05.jpg is part of a new cartoon show called: Familia Della Bocca

A cartoon that will have the Boca players as characters, among them Roman, that will air soon. In merchandising alone for the characters, Boca estimates they will make around US$10 million. A brilliant idea that I'm sure will spill thru out Boca fans worldwide ... including mighty Japan and it's Club World Cup. :cool:

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Boca won the first game of this Copa Panamericana Directv 2007 (http://www.copapanamericana2007.com/usa/home/) being held in Phoenix, Arizona, beating Alianza Lima (peru) by 2-0. Ledesma was red carded and won't play against America (Mexico) on Friday (http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/07/17/01459149.html). Goals were scored by Boselli and Datolo from a free kick.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/07/17/thumb/f016ah02.jpg

The team:
Caranta
Maidana - Silvestre -Roncaglia (http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/07/17/01459134.html) - Krupoviesa (http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/07/17/01459135.html)
Ledesma - Battaglia - Datolo
Neri
Mondaini - Palermo

Subs: Urribarri for Krupoviesa 56'; Boselli for Mondaini 63'; Diaz for Datolo 88'
Goals: Boselli 84' ; Datolo 87'
Red Carded: Ledesma 82'

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July 29th, 2007

Last nite was the last pre-season game before the start of the Apertura '07. It was a 2-0 victory over Haiti, game played at Miami's Orange Bowl.

Around 8000 peeps showed up to the game, mostly Boca supporters. It was nice to see the Boca family in exile show support to the team. Surprisingly, the Haitian community, which is pretty large in Miami but not as large as the Ole chick thought it was, came out in pretty small numbers. In addition, I can assess that the same songs you hear every Sunday of the local tournament, or for Libertadores, at the Bombonera, were the ones you heard last nite. Claudita Villapun (http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/07/29/01467528.html) needs to get laid. ;) Asi, asi como mueve la colita ... si no la mueve la tiene mojadita ....

Boca regulated the game and missed several chances, primarily Palermo who had at least 3 or 4 clear goal chances. Mondaini and Datolo had a couple other ones, as well as a nice chip, towards the end of the game, from Boselli looked like a goal .

It was interesting to see the 4-4-2 without Roman. Both Datolo and Neri alternated in attack, creating most of the football on the left side of attack. El Tucu is slowly gaining his shape and reached the endline constantly. He is no Clemente, in terms of speed, but once again showed his powerful shot and accurate crossing. the left side was a lot more active, yet the yorugua Gonzales reached the endline by surprise, well supported by Ledesma.

The team started with:

Migliore
Gonzales - Silvestre - Maidana - Krupoviesa
Ledesma - Battaglia - Neri - Datolo
Mondaini - Palermo
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4491/mff1xc0.jpg

The Future is Bright ... in players and fans
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/306/mff2ez4.jpg

At the start of the 2nd half, Maidana left his place to youngster Roncaglia. And with 20 minutes to go, youngster Nicolas Gaitan subbed Neri and Boselli came in for Mondaini.

Gladly impressed with Gaitan. He always showed himself to receive the ball, he has some characteristics to Datolo, left footed and likes to take on rivals. The most important detail is that he shows much more accurate control of the ball and doesn't "panic" in his last touch as we all know happens with Datolo, as well as his movement and ball receiving in traffic is confident. He made a great cross from right to left that shows his long ball accuracy is better than Datolo's (we all could probably know that) and took the corners and a free kick with ease ... nothing like Jesus. Probably Pochi Chavez, injured from his shoulder at the end of the Clausura, will be ahead of him in the enganche role ... moreso if Carrusca arrives, but the kid showed that he can be an interesting addition to the squad this season as well as in years to come.

All in all, after a few beers, and watching the team lift the American Airlines trophy, the "Twelve", Miami's version of La 12, gave the players a warm good-bye and wished them luck in bringing those 2 international trophies back to Argentina. The team greeted back with the confidence of the new King of Cups.

Some small videos:

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v/AjIHAWDcloE

v/M1-XMEVgzK4

v/KxJUX8zv_WY

v/7IFkEzJmbDY

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chauchey

30-07-2007, 11:54 PM

wow dude, talk about dedication to the 'edit' button' ;) :D Thanks for the great pics VIP, and for the updates. I saw some highlights on FSN, but didnt catch what they where for(other than Boca winnings, which means all is still right with the world today) :D

River

02-08-2007, 03:58 AM

Vip

02-08-2007, 04:23 AM

Here are the new Boca jerseys:

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/08/01/um/fotos/camiseta.jpg

http://i13.piczo.com/view/1/u/z/p/l/4/i/1/o/1/c/9/img/i286269300_38638_5.jpg

http://i13.piczo.com/view/1/u/z/p/l/4/i/1/o/1/c/9/img/i286269301_70292_5.jpg

The away one looks disgusting in the pic that Ibarra is holding it, but it actually looks a lot better in the third pic, in which Banegas is wearing it. The home shirt meanwhile, is very similar to the previous home jersey.

An interesting thing is the addition to the UNICEF logo on the sleeve. It is part of some Nike campaign, and would be similar to what Barcelona did last semester. Another thing I noticed was the new logo: no more stars in it, just a more classical look with 3 stars above it representing the 3 Intercontinental titles.

Opinions?

P.S. - Can anybody decypher whatever the hell it says in the middle stripe of the away jersey? :confused: It also seems to say it inside of the home one.

It is all the Boca titles, in small blue print. All 47 of them until 2006. There is one missing now, as Boca won the Libertadores 2007 in June of this year. ;) There is a star with the # 47 on the left sleeve of the jersey.

As to the stars not being used in the logo, it is because they don't fit no more ... too many, according to Boca's Official site (http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/2007/08/01/896.php)

I really like both. The away jersey looks awesome, similar to the away Bayern of 2 seasons ago. The away jersey will be used this coming Sunday against Central at home ... remember that in Argentina's local tournaments, it is the local team who has to use the away jersey when there is a conflict in colors with the visiting team.

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