Dong Fangzhuo

[Redstar]

how good is this player? i know man u bought him and he is on loan to Royal Antwerp... and so i have never seen him play... and i am wondering when will he be able to play for man u?

[varun]

next season he can play, it was some work permit issue in England.

As for how good he is, well he is rated quite high...the chinese wayne rooney but only time will tell ;)

[Monne]

atm he's topscorer in belgian second division i think

says it all: belgian second division

he's been here for 3 years now i think, and when he was in 1st division he could never cope

[randy420]

chinese wayne rooney? lmao. you're on an obvious windup varun.

Dong is not United matieral, and was most liekly bought as a marketing tool for the far east.

[bricktop]

I remember he scored in one of the preseason matches in the far east. not a bad player, but worthy of the first team..I doubt it.

[Redstar]

hmmmm well i still looking forward to seeing him play for united..
i wont expect much but hopefuly he will do us proud...

[randy420]

I don't think he'll ever play for us..

[sof2xlc]

whats will all this censorship...this isnt N KOREA



freaking bs who is does he think he is...his other reasons are stupid too

[mehdan]

seriously, the mods are a BIT overzealous here.....

[randy420]

seriously, the mods are a BIT overzealous here.....
If you don't like it, then get the feck out

[sof2xlc]

If you don't like it, then get the feck out
oh no iam staying.. i am just saying

[mehdan]

If you don't like it, then get the feck out

Wow, I pity you. So much hate.

[randy420]

hate? no, you're mistaken. sofwhatever complained there was too much censorship here, when in fact the posts were deleted for a reason. You tended to agree with him. I just kinda reminded both of you that you don't HAVE to be here, and your presence at this site is strictly voluntary. If you feel there's too much censorship here, please show yourself the door and gtfo

[ronniewolf10]

his name is Dong
haha i hope he makes it big
big haha

[sof2xlc]

hate? no, you're mistaken. sofwhatever complained there was too much censorship here, when in fact the posts were deleted for a reason. You tended to agree with him. I just kinda reminded both of you that you don't HAVE to be here, and your presence at this site is strictly voluntary. If you feel there's too much censorship here, please show yourself the door and gtfo


i already said i am staying here.

[@12if]

ok back to DONG

what about his skill in FM2006? lolz
hope he can get a chance to play next season... need to see more asian play in europe major league :rolleyes:

[randy420]

i already said i am staying here.
then quit whining about "censorship"

[sof2xlc]

then quit whining about "censorship"
am i whining or am i stating the fact (and if you think its not a fact. then its an opinion). whining occurs when you start nagging people about it.. like for example your whining about me being upset
.....


back to fm2006

he has a 7.20 at antwerp for 3 yrs and then a 7.19 for man utd res. no 1st team games and wa valued at 1.3 mil.. signed back to Dalian..where he played earlier in his career

[stcronaldo]

If you don't like it, then get the feck out

STFU you dont own this forum scrotum-face

[sof2xlc]

we got the last word so therefore we win!

[kushal]

back to DONG again and i feel like i'm hijacking the thread here :D

yes he scored in one of the pre-season matches, if i'm not mistaken it might've been the same one that Park scored in. anyway i don't think they just bought him as a marketing tool. he's far too young and they wouldn't buy a marketing tool and loan him off to antwerp now would they? o'shea spent time at antwerp too. it's a feeder club isn't it? so United send their players there and if they're good enough (as i've heard that Dong is) they'll be drafted into the reserves prob. i remember they bought a Qatari and loaned him off to antwerp as well. haven't heard of him since. but yeah i've heard a lot about Dong and would like to see him play before passing judgement on him.

[r7raul]

If you don't like it, then get the feck out

who the hell re u?:cool:

[samuel19]

Dong is a wonderful player,and he comes from my hometown team,Dalian Shide(大连实德).:D

[Redstar]

does anyone know if he will be playing for man u this year, for the reserves i mean

[acricketer]

does anyone know if he will be playing for man u this year, for the reserves i mean

Glad to see we're back on topic!:)

[fcb_sandy05]

In 2005, he was in the shortlist for the FIFPro Young player of the Year (along with Rooney,C.Rynaldo,Robben). Then again, so was Freddy Adu.

Btw,Dong is in the squad for the SA tour and I'm sure he will get some game time as Rooney isn't part of the squad.I believe he will return to Belgium after the tour,as he doesn't have a WP.
EDIT:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=374088&cc=5739
Looks like Dong will get the WP in December

[IncredibleLE]

does anyone know if he will be playing for man u this year, for the reserves i mean
i believe he still is in belgium. they extended his loan.

[Redstar]

yeah it seems he is eligible to play in england in january 2007.
right now he has 52 caps for antwerp with 25 goals.
during the SA tour he scored the winner for United in a 1-0 win over Kaizer Chiefs.

[butters]

He still has a lot things to learn if he wants to play in EPL,but I think he`s mentally strong enough to cope all this.
Anyway he`s considered as the most talented young player by Chinese press.
My impression about him is he`s very quick,and very confident with ball,same type of Walcott.

[Monne]

My impression about him is he`s very quick,and very confident with ball,same type of Walcott.

not as i remember him
(havn't seen him play much the last 2-3 yrs as antwerp don't play in the highest league anymore)

[No1_Dave]

the problem with his delay to play in the Prem is because of his work permit, China doesn't allow dual nationality, so there's no way he'll try to get a Belgium passport so to become EU citizen to play for Utd (he won't be able to play for China anymore if he does that) so he'll have to wait to play enough times for the National Team then apply for his work permit.

but can't wait for him to make history for Utd tho'.

[varun]

the problem with his delay to play in the Prem is because of his work permit, China doesn't allow dual nationality, so there's no way he'll try to get a Belgium passport so to become EU citizen to play for Utd (he won't be able to play for China anymore if he does that) so he'll have to wait to play enough times for the National Team then apply for his work permit.

but can't wait for him to make history for Utd tho'.
so when is this likely to happen :(

[Redstar]

so when is this likely to happen :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5193736.stm

around dec~jan

[No1_Dave]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5193736.stm

around dec~jan

that article was from July :rolleyes: and I read it at the time also but straight away knew it's not probable.

as the article said Dong qualifies for a European passport soon, but if he takes it he's won't be able to play for China, that's a BIG no no.

Fergie prolly didn't know no dual nationality for chinese, so he just assumed Dong's in the same situation as any/many other potential young overseas players.

[butters]

He`s got a work permission according to Skysports.wish him good luck.

[No1_Dave]

cheers but already being discussed in the Man Utd Pub thread since yesterday when the story broke.

[fanutd]

i have big hopes :)

[IncredibleLE]

i don't expect to see him play much for the 1st team. he's still young and i'm sure rossi will be higher on the pecking order.

[Monne]

he played his last game for antwerp yesterday, they won 3-0 against the leaders (damn)
dong had 1 goal and 1 assist to an own-goal (after he waited way to long)

you want highlights?
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/sporza/nnII_sporza_start/index.shtml
then click the 3rd artictle "Dong neemt in schoonheid afscheid van Antwerp", then righttop "wedstrijdverslag"

(sorry that i had to explain it like this :))

[Silas]

Dong Fangzhuo goals in 04/05 Belgian First Division.
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Dong Fangzhuo goals in 05/06 Belgian First Division Part 1.
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Dong Fangzhuo goals in 05/06 Belgian First Division Part 2.
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He is incredibly talented. Look for his chipped goal in the third clip. So much skills to score like the way he did.

[Monne]

good catch silas
but it's belgian second division he plays in, not the first division
(equal to what championship is for england)
that would be some sloppy sloppy defending to be first division (though the belgian league sucks :) )

[Silas]

I agree. But still, not everybody there scores such goals, do they? Tight angles, long shots, ships, finesse, pace.... everything.

[Monne]

I agree. But still, not everybody there scores such goals, do they? Tight angles, long shots, ships, finesse, pace.... everything.

true, he made some nice goals :)

[Katoshi]

Any news on this guy coming back? I really wanted to see him play in OT in a Man Utd shirt before I leave this summer for good, but doesn't look like it's happening :(

Even though he'll probably come on at like the 88th minute as a sub but would make me happy as ever, seeing a Chinese player playing for Man Utd.

[No1_Dave]

I'm quietly confident that SAF would give him a game or 2 before the summer, fingers & toes crossed, history in the making :)

[Monne]

carling cup would be ideal i think

[No1_Dave]

carling cup would be ideal i think

I'll take this comment as --> :rolleyes:

[Monne]

I'll take this comment as --> :rolleyes:


you shouldn't
you can't expect him to be ready for EPL after 3-4 years in belgian second division.
i think belgian second division is as good as league 1 or even league 2

[shika]

I'll take this comment as --> :rolleyes:

LOL... :rolleyes: that is how it is gonna be huh, no1_dave?

monne, utd are out of carling cup. :(

[Monne]

LOL... :rolleyes: that is how it is gonna be huh, no1_dave?

monne, utd are out of the competition. :(

oh sorry, honestly didn't realise that

in that case he won't be playing this season i reckon

[No1_Dave]

carling cup would be ideal i think

you shouldn't
you can't expect him to be ready for EPL after 3-4 years in belgian second division.
i think belgian second division is as good as league 1 or even league 2

monne, utd are out of carling cup.


:rolleyes: that's what I was implying

:(

[Katoshi]

Yeah I thought the CC would be the best match for him to make his first appearance as well, then I remembered we ain't in it :(

Hope it'll happen this season :)

[antujebon]

just an update on the story

skysports.com (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?HLID=442230&CPID=8&title=New+United+deal+for+Dong&lid=&channel=Football_Home&f=rss&clid=1)



New United deal for Dong
how funny does that sounds


Chinese international Dong Fangzhou has signed a new contract at Manchester United and will now begin his Premiership career in earnest.

The striker has been farmed out to United's feeder club Royal Antwerp for the last two-and-a-half years, but was awarded a work permit in December and has now been welcomed into Sir Alex Ferguson's first team squad.

Dong has been handed a new deal that lasts until 2010 and will wear the number 21 shirt at Old Trafford as he looks to become the first Chinese player to make a senior appearance for The Red Devils.

His contribution since arriving from Dalian Shide in January 2004 has been restricted to pre-season tours, but Ferguson insists Dong has a role to play at United for the foreseeable future.

"We're all excited he has eventually arrived and can start playing," Ferguson told the club's official website.

"He sacrificed two-and-a-half years at Royal Antwerp, which showed great patience and determination.

"He is quick and athletic and he can only improve by training with the first team squad here."

[prettyrabbit]

How many goals have Dong scored for manu? maybe two in reserves team?

[red6899]

Way out of his depth at United. He's been OK in the reserves but he's not good enough to be a regular in United's first team. Obviously been brought in to maximise the marketing of United in China.

[der-kaiser]

if he is not getting games, i dont see how we can maximize his marketing potential.

[jdh9122]

the last match he appeared that i think was the friedlymatch against ROMA
in champs

[prateik_572]

he isnt good enough ..
he did well for the reserves , but even there eagles was much better than him ..
welbeck and macheda (who is still in the academy) challenge him for a spot in the reserves starting XI ..

he will improve drastically and be in the first XI next season ..

[McViktor]

a very obvious marketing move to 'make manchester closer to the chinese people' ;)

[Møllemanden]

Unless the entire first team squad gets the flu, Dong is never going to play for United on a regular basis. He is not good enough. Simple as that.

[IncredibleLE]

dong has cancelled his contract with Man U.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_4061412,00.html
anybody think he's gonna stay in europe or head back to one of the asian leagues?

[sun6880717]

he is not bad

dong has cancelled his contract with Man U.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_4061412,00.html
anybody think he's gonna stay in europe or head back to one of the asian leagues?

he came back to dalian