Rooney vs Gerrard

[kamyarjannati]

Just wanted to know what the common consensus was...

Personally, I know that they are both WORLD CLASS players, but I do think the Gerrard is better and the most complete footballer in the world.

However, I do believe that Rooney (Shrek) is now a great footballer and potentially one of the best footballers of the next decade.

What do you guys & girls think???

[aqualex]

i love rooney, but gerrard is a great player albeit he does make some silly mistakes time to time. Gerrard, though, is a utility player and can play almost anywhere on the pitchy, which can come in very useful because England seem to have a surplus in some parts of the pitch and not others. And Rooney could (i hope) will become one of the greatest footballers of the decade but that has been said about other plays (ie Joe Cole, but it has taken him more time to mature). well haveta wait and see!

[randy420]

Cannot be compared. Two completely different positions

[Unregistered]

Cannot be compared. Two completely different positions


exactly.

[randy420]

Shall we compare John Terry and Theirry Henry next?

[slipperydave]

we should start comparing Crouch to Heskey!

[deviant]

we should start comparing Crouch to Heskey!
that one would actually make sense

[Real JamesO]

If I were starting a new club and could only have one of them to build my team around I would pick Gerrard, right now. I think he has better leadership qualities and, I agree, his versatility make him a more complete player.


Ask me again in 3 or 4 years, though and my answer might change...

[realGaurab]

we should start comparing Crouch to Heskey!
Atm, Crouch is way too better than Heskey.

[GeCk0]

I agree that comparing them would be like comparing apples to oranges. Both great players in their positions.

But in the Independant today there was an article that talks about how to solve England's lack of Rooney problem. The writer put forth the idea that whomever is up top should be supported in the hole by Gerrard. Therefore basically playing Rooney's role. In this situation you can marginally compare the two players as they are both in the same position.

With that said. The article by Glen Moore states that Gerrard is not as intuitive or imaginative as Rooney, but that isn't necessarily true. Gerrard's vision is second to only one or two players in the world and his communication with Crouch and Owen (two of the England strikers) is phenomenal. Gerrard can also make things happen and has an eye for goal. Rooney is the same, and when both move forward they are like freight trains. Hard to stop. Rooney's touch and ability to get around opponents is a little more developed as he is more often than not in the hole, but that is something that Gerrard can work on leading up to the World Cup. It also helps that Gerrard has something to prove after missing out on the last world cup due to injury.

So in that case.. i'd have to call it a tie.

[wbg]

There are definite similarities between the two: they are both fast, powerful, skillful and very "English" players. They are also both astonishingly good, but there are big differences, too. Rooney is much more effective in and around the box and with his back to goal. Stevie is at his best running at pace at goal or at men.

I think Gerrard could do the job, but I'd rather see him given an attacking midfield role. The problem is, Owen is not suited to a lone striker role and he's a class better than the other strikers we have.

[saurabh]

Just purely going by this season's performance, I'll have to pick Gerrard. He has played in so many different positions. He has done well as a Winger, Right Wing Back, Center Midfielder, Center Forward, Right Forward and Striker. He has created good moves. Excellent shooting ability. Fantastic passing ability. He's so much better than Rooney in the air. And has even scored more goals than Rooney, even though Rooney plays closer to goal than Stevie. So at least for the time being Rooney is still to match Gerrard. Rooney is a bright talent and is expected to be better than everyone else but for the moment, Gerrard comes out on top.

[Aus-Fan]

Gerrard is a great player but whether he is capable or not of making an impact in the World Cup playing as a forward remains to be seen. I am not so sure he has the creativity and dribbling abilities of Rooney but maybe he can get the job done in other areas.

[steve huge]

I agree that comparing them would be like comparing apples to oranges. Both great players in their positions.

But in the Independant today there was an article that talks about how to solve England's lack of Rooney problem. The writer put forth the idea that whomever is up top should be supported in the hole by Gerrard. Therefore basically playing Rooney's role. In this situation you can marginally compare the two players as they are both in the same position.

With that said. The article by Glen Moore states that Gerrard is not as intuitive or imaginative as Rooney, but that isn't necessarily true. Gerrard's vision is second to only one or two players in the world and his communication with Crouch and Owen (two of the England strikers) is phenomenal. Gerrard can also make things happen and has an eye for goal. Rooney is the same, and when both move forward they are like freight trains. Hard to stop. Rooney's touch and ability to get around opponents is a little more developed as he is more often than not in the hole, but that is something that Gerrard can work on leading up to the World Cup. It also helps that Gerrard has something to prove after missing out on the last world cup due to injury.

So in that case.. i'd have to call it a tie.

I think this is England's best option now. If Rooney isn't going to make it, putting Gerrard in as the supporting striker behind Owen (or Defoe, Crouch etc..) is our next best option. Doing this allows Gerrard and Lampard to play in the same team without cancelling each other out as they have done in the past. It also allows for us to include Carrick, who would fulfill the more defensive aspects of the midfield.

But, in answer to the original poster's question, I'd say Rooney is better at playing this supporting striker role than Gerrard, but in any other position on the pitch (except for 'keeper maybe, I hear Rooney's pretty shit-hot in the nets!) Gerrard is by far better.

[randy420]

There are definite similarities between the two: they are both fast, powerful, skillful and very "English" players. They are also both astonishingly good, but there are big differences, too. Rooney is much more effective in and around the box and with his back to goal. Stevie is at his best running at pace at goal or at men.

I think Gerrard could do the job, but I'd rather see him given an attacking midfield role. The problem is, Owen is not suited to a lone striker role and he's a class better than the other strikers we have.

Jesus, why not also say that they're similar because they're both English? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

They cannot be compared because one of them is a midfielder (Gerrard) while the other is a striker (Rooney)

As I alluded to earlier, it would be like comparing Terry and Henry. It's just not realistically possible. You can make all the arguements in the world as to why you think they are similiar, or who you think is better, but you cannot actually determine it because they play two completely different positions. Comparing Gerrard and Lampard would be a better comparison.


Just purely going by this season's performance, I'll have to pick Gerrard. He has played in so many different positions. He has done well as a Winger, Right Wing Back, Center Midfielder, Center Forward, Right Forward and Striker. He has created good moves. Excellent shooting ability. Fantastic passing ability. He's so much better than Rooney in the air. And has even scored more goals than Rooney, even though Rooney plays closer to goal than Stevie. So at least for the time being Rooney is still to match Gerrard. Rooney is a bright talent and is expected to be better than everyone else but for the moment, Gerrard comes out on top.

What a load of bollocks this is. I notice you failed to mention that 1/3 of Gerrard's goals this season came against crap no-name teams in the qualification rounds of the Champions League. How bout the fact that Rooney is more tenacious than Gerrard, and is a lot more powerful on or even off the ball. Let's not forget to include those, even though I'm sure you'd like too, since those points would be detrimental to the shite you're spouting.

fuckin hell

[opm1s6]

if you were going to compare two players why gerrard and rooney?

why not gerrard vs. giggs? or shearer vs rooney? or lampard vs gerrard.

[randy420]

if you were going to compare two players why gerrard and rooney?

why not gerrard vs. giggs? or shearer vs rooney? or lampard vs gerrard.
Gerrard v Giggs? Again, because they're two different positions. Central midfield compard to a Left Winger. Cannot compare them

[saurabh]

Jesus, why not also say that they're similar because they're both English? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

They cannot be compared because one of them is a midfielder (Gerrard) while the other is a striker (Rooney)

As I alluded to earlier, it would be like comparing Terry and Henry. It's just not realistically possible. You can make all the arguements in the world as to why you think they are similiar, or who you think is better, but you cannot actually determine it because they play two completely different positions. Comparing Gerrard and Lampard would be a better comparison.




What a load of bollocks this is. I notice you failed to mention that 1/3 of Gerrard's goals this season came against crap no-name teams in the qualification rounds of the Champions League. How bout the fact that Rooney is more tenacious than Gerrard, and is a lot more powerful on or even off the ball. Let's not forget to include those, even though I'm sure you'd like too, since those points would be detrimental to the shite you're spouting.

fuckin hell

Gerrard winning the PFA Player of the Year Award is proof enough of what I said. Even as a midfielder he has scored more goals that Rooney this season and if some have come against weaker teams the others have come against stronger teams. Last season too he was fantastic. The fact is he scored against Milan and you need to get there to score! How many players can claim performances like his against Olympiakos last season? I can't remember having yet seen Rooney ever reach such heights of performance and deliverance for his team. Maybe the Carling Cup is a great acheivement but in our books it means nothing. If I take you view into consideration, every single ManU player is better than a Liverpool player, but the proof of the pudding is in eating, and until Rooney earns those laurels for himself, he will remain in the shadows of successful contemporaries like Gerrard and Lampard.

Many people have come and gone in England who were expected to acheive the world but I don't care what is in store for the future, at present Gerrard is far far better. He is an ACHEIVER!!

[akibo]

Cannot be compared. Two completely different positions
this might be the first time, but I agree with You.

This is the sort of thread where all mancs will say 'I'ma choose Rooney' and all the scousers will say 'I'ma choose Gerrard' so a rather pointless thread.
It depends purely what are of the field You are looking to, if ya like to have a midfielder ya pick Stevie & if ya like to have a striker ya pick Rooney..

btw. randy420, just ignore saurabh, his a bit too passionate (no offense) about his thoughts of football.

How many players can claim performances like his against Olympiakos last season? I can't remember having yet seen Rooney ever reach such heights of performance and deliverance for his team. Maybe the Carling Cup is a great acheivement but in our books it means nothing. If I take you view into consideration, every single ManU player is better than a Liverpool player, but the proof of the pudding is in eating, and until Rooney earns those laurels for himself, he will remain in the shadows of successful contemporaries like Gerrard and Lampard.
Hold Your horses now a bit, You're not offensing a manc here, You're insulting the English national team imo. Didn't You see the last European Cup mate??? You're claiming that Rooney has never reached such heights of performance.. in my books, he was brilliant, at such a young age, at the international level, 2 years ago..

[randy420]

I was thinking of another word besides passionate. Stupid, retarded.. I dunno. One of those two though

[saurabh]

I was thinking of another word besides passionate. Stupid, retarded.. I dunno. One of those two though

Those words fit YOU perfectly after your calculations on how MANU can take the title went for a toss. Check.... 84 points, could anyone predict that precisely??? Where is The ROOCK and your other friends, maybe one of them will remind you, not to mention your logic in the ManU vs Liverpool FA Cup clash.

[opm1s6]

yeah right, because giggsy never plays central midfield, and gerrard never plays the wing. regardless my point was that there are better comparisons that would be interesting. you can make the comparison nonetheless.

[randy420]

The thing is though, central midfield for Giggs isn't his preferred position, whereas it IS Gerrard's natural position, and the opposite is true for the wings.

I mean, better winger of the two? Giggsy. Better central midfielder? Obviously it's Gerrard

[opm1s6]

i always take giggs, always. i'd take him as the water boy and id take him as the manager. the only player i'd be out and out biased about.

well him and stoichkov, although he played for CSKA...bah evil

[Yiannis]

Where is The ROOCK .

Unfortunately he left us early.You just can't imagine how much we do miss him!

[chriswvtr]

Unfortunately he left us early.You just can't imagine how much we do miss him!


Miss him like I miss that dose of chlamydia I had :rolleyes:

[Lonso]

The who??

[akibo]

Miss him like I miss that dose of chlamydia I had :rolleyes:
hahahahaaa, lol, seconded & thirded :):D

[harithfakhrudin]

Cannot be compared. Two completely different positions

yeah, exactly. they have different roles and responsibilities in game. all you can say, they both work real hard for their teams.

if you wanna compare gerrard, you can do that with lampard, or ballack, or makelele, or simply any other central midfielder. :D

rooney vs drogba, what do you guys think?

[randy420]

yeah, exactly. they have different roles and responsibilities in game. all you can say, they both work real hard for their teams.

if you wanna compare gerrard, you can do that with lampard, or ballack, or makelele, or simply any other central midfielder. :D

rooney vs drogba, what do you guys think?
Rooney