La Liga 2005/2006 best XI [Archive] - MaXxed Football Forums

R9magia

19-05-2006, 06:56 AM

So what do you think was the La Liga best XI of the season.

Mine:

------------------------Casillas------------------------
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----------------R.Marquez------Puyol------------------
--Daniel Alves--------------------------------M.Pernia--
----------------Edmilson---Marcos Senna---------------
-------------------------------------------------------
---------Riquelme-------------------Ronaldinho---------
-------------------------------------------------------
----------------David Villa---Samuel Eto'o--------------

5 Barcelona players, but they are after all, the best team in Europe.

BTW, I chose two defensive midfielders because in this formation I'm using 4 attacking players but you could easily replace Edmilson or Marcos Senna with a player like Deco for example.

barcalove

19-05-2006, 06:59 AM

it seems a crying shame to have messi not included.. i want him in there but, it would be difficult to remove any of those players. if it had to be someone.. i'd take out riquelme, because we know messi can operate in the middle very very well, also the right and probably do well from an attacking midfield position. actually senna could be taken out, but messi would have to play more advanced so im not sure whether riquelme would work that deep? i dunno...

R9magia

19-05-2006, 07:47 AM

I don't know BL. Nobody would doubt that he is one of the best players in the league, but in something like best XI you have to take into consideration what the player did throughout the season and I think Messi was injured for quite a while and before that wasn't starting every single game so that hurts him.

And you could move Senna, but that squad would be unrealistic to play with. The formation would basically be a 4-1-1-4:

------------------------Casillas------------------------
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----------------R.Marquez------Puyol------------------
--Daniel Alves--------------------------------M.Pernia--
------------------------Edmilson-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
------------------------Riquelme-----------------------
----Messi----------------------------------Ronaldinho--
----------------David Villa---Samuel Eto'o--------------

LOL..If only football was played with 4-1-1-4 tactics.:D

r9ronaldor9

19-05-2006, 12:05 PM

barcalove

19-05-2006, 06:39 PM

----------------Casillas------------------
------------Ramos----- Puyal-------------
Cicinho--------------------------- Perni---
Mesi------------ Baptista---------Ronaldinho
------------------Cani----------------------
------------Villa-----------Ronaldo---------

i know iam a bit biased going for ronaldo but he scored 14 goals in 21, he began the season well and he ended well.
hahhaha a bit biased going for ronaldo? more like a bit biased going for ramos, cicinho and baptista. cicinho only played in the 2nd half of the season and sometimes didnt even start. baptista played well for the last few weeks of the season, and ramos is crapppp! how many red cards and horrible tackles and goals have gone in as a result of him? bleh, i just dont like ramos at all, i think hes overhyped and really not a good player. too hot headed too. but this is all hypothetical...

------------------------Casillas------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
----------------R.Marquez------Puyol------------------
--Daniel Alves--------------------------------M.Pernia--
------------------------Edmilson-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
------------------------Riquelme-----------------------
----Messi----------------------------------Ronaldinho--
----------------David Villa---Samuel Eto'o--------------

now theres an attacking football lineup! :D :D :D

bobkat

19-05-2006, 06:49 PM

----------------Casillas------------------
------------Ramos----- Puyal-------------
Cicinho--------------------------- Perni---
Mesi------------ Baptista---------Ronaldinho
------------------Cani----------------------
------------Villa-----------Ronaldo---------

i know iam a bit biased going for ronaldo but he scored 14 goals in 21, he began the season well and he ended well.

Sorry, no way baptista, cicinho deserve that. Ramos ... ... ... maybe? Ronaldo, definitely not.

As to the question about Messi Barcalove - i'll have to disagree with ya. I love the kid - *a lot*. He has shades of greatness that harken to legends. He issed the last 1/3 of the season too. I would probably have to go with De La Pena over riquelme. I think he was/is totally underrated, and has spectacular vision. Riquelme had a so-so season from what i saw of him at villareal.

I also question edmilson. I wonder if there might be another more versatile player for a defensive midfielder. I also liked cani this year...but i'm not sure you can exchange cani for edmilson.

barcalove

19-05-2006, 06:57 PM

As to the question about Messi Barcalove
true true... but hes just soooo good!

motoras

19-05-2006, 10:49 PM

I believe the selection should be about the players who had an oustanding last season not about players that few years ago had good seasons, or about players that some believe theya re going to be good in the future.
So said, theres is no player from Real Madrid except Casillias that deserve a place in Liga's Best XI. Proposing players like Baptista, Ramos or Ronaldo is unrealistic. I love Messi but I don't thing this year he got a place in the Best IX. Also I don't like Puyol to much, but Barca defense was very solid this season. Regarding these my choice is:

------------------------Casillas------------------------
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----------------R.Marquez-----------Pujol-------------
--Daniel Alves--------------------------------M.Pernia--
----------------Deco---Marcos Senna---------------
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---------Riquelme-------------------Ronaldinho---------
-------------------------------------------------------
----------------David Villa---Samuel Eto'o--------------

eraser2224

20-05-2006, 06:23 AM

ramos is shit.

praro

20-05-2006, 10:44 AM

This is my Best XI:

-----------------------Pinto---------------------
Cicinho-------Albiol---------Puyol-----------Pernía
-------------------------------------------------
--Jesús Navas--------Martí--------Riquelme-------
-------------------------------------------------
-----Villa------------------------------Ronaldinho
---------------------Eto'o-----------------------

I want to put any player of Osasuna, but i think they have reached the 4th place because they have a great team, but no one is a star (maybe Milosevic, but Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Villa are better than him)

dbzclips

20-05-2006, 02:55 PM

Bah! 4-4-2? 4-3-3?

Without risk, there is no genius. 1-1-8!

Joga Bonio!

givemehistory

20-05-2006, 05:16 PM

--------------Casillas
Miguel---Gonzalo---Puyol---Pernia
------------Raul Garcia
---Messi-----Riquelme----Ronaldinho
------------Villa---Eto'o

Bench (incomplete list):
Canizares (call me biased, but he's been fantastic this season, just look at all the clean sheets Valencia racked up)
Albiol (it was between him and Sergio Ramos, but I think the latter makes too many mistakes inside the box)
Cani
Senna
Aimar
D Milito

I've probably forgotten people, bah.

squarexpass

20-05-2006, 06:29 PM

My best XI:

-----------------------Casillas---------------------
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------------------Ayala------Puyol-----------------
--Ciciniho--------------------------------M.Pernia--
----------------Albelda-------Deco---------------
------------------------------------------------------
---------Riquelme---------------Ronaldinho-------
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---------------David Villa----Samuel Eto'o---------

Hard to leave on the bench:
Pinto
Marquez
Maresca
Messi
Jesus Navas
Aimar
Raul Garcia

givemehistory

20-05-2006, 06:46 PM

squarexpass:

See, Ayala was injured for a few months, so that's why I had Albiol ahead of him, since that boy has been playing so consistently throughout the season. He was Valencia's best central defender for the 05/06 season, in my opinion.

deviant

20-05-2006, 08:20 PM

-----------------------Casillas---------------------
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------------------Ayala------Marquez---------------
--Ciciniho--------------------------------M.Pernia--
----------------Albelda-------Zidane---------------
------------------------------------------------------
---------Riquelme---------------Ronaldinho-------
------------------------------------------------------
---------------David Villa----F.Torres-------------

Dee

20-05-2006, 09:09 PM

-------------------------------Cassilas------------------------------------
-----------salgado-------Marquez-----Puyol----------Sylvinhio-------------

------------------------------ Senna ------------------------------------

-------------------------Iniesta---------Riquelme-------------------------
Messi---------------------------------------------------------- RonalDhinio

-------------------------------'Eto'--------------------------------------

No team anyone puts together will beat this 11....

bobkat

20-05-2006, 09:38 PM

pernia > sylvinho i think!

barcalove

20-05-2006, 10:16 PM

Dee

20-05-2006, 10:57 PM

lol.. yeah I know salgado's not anymore but he's one of the few real players I like.
What did i spell wrong??

R9magia

20-05-2006, 11:32 PM

Wow. A lot of people seem to be overlooking how good Daniel Alves was this season. He was without question the best right-back in La Liga. Plus, Cicinho only played half of La Liga.

R9magia

20-05-2006, 11:33 PM

barcalove

20-05-2006, 11:57 PM

lol.. yeah I know salgado's not anymore but he's one of the few real players I like.
What did i spell wrong??
sylvinhio = sylvinho
ronaldhinio = ronaldinho
eto = eto'o
ciciniho = cicinho

deviant

21-05-2006, 01:14 AM

Sorry..but I must LOL at this :o
whats the problem? too little brazilians for your taste?

R9magia

21-05-2006, 02:01 AM

whats the problem? too little brazilians for your taste?

LOL. No, not at all. I laughed out loud because you left out Puyol (widely considered one of the 3 best defenders in the world, nevermind La Liga), you left out Eto'o (widely considered one of the top 3-5 forwards in the world), you chose Cicinho over Daniel Alves even though Cicinho only played just over half a season while Alves played all of it at a world class level and was a big part of Sevilla's UEFA Cup win and finally you picked Zidane who clearly was not one of the better players this year. Tellingly, you left out Barcelona players that clearly deserved to be there and included Madrid players that did not. I guess since you are a RM fan, it's understandable, but I must LOL at the selection.

deviant

21-05-2006, 02:16 AM

LOL. No, not at all. I laughed out loud because you left out Puyol (widely considered one of the 3 best defenders in the world, nevermind La Liga), you left out Eto'o (widely considered one of the top 3-5 forwards in the world), you chose Cicinho over Daniel Alves even though Cicinho only played just over half a season while Alves played all of it at a world class level and was a big part of Sevilla's UEFA Cup win and finally you picked Zidane who clearly was not one of the better players this year. Tellingly, you left out Barcelona players that clearly deserved to be there and included Madrid players that did not. I guess since you are a RM fan, it's understandable, but I must LOL at the selection.
Rafael Marquez is also considered one of the best defenders in the world maybe even better than Puyol, I left out Eto'o because David Villa was amazing this season scoring awsome goals creating somthing out of nothing he didnt have Ronaldinho putting in the pass for him and yet still managed to score, I chose Torres big he has been the best CLUTCH foward he stepped up to big games like against Barcelona, Cincinho played half of the season and yet scored 2 GREAT goals in half of the season that says alot more than Alves 2 goals for the whole season.The Zidane factor was because he has pulled out some pretty amazing goals this season INCLUDING his hat trick vs Sevilla :rolleyes: and thats why I chose them.

ps: I didnt see Alves in the WC squad this summer but I sure as hell saw Cicinho.

R9magia

21-05-2006, 03:24 AM

Rafael Marquez is also considered one of the best defenders in the world maybe even better than Puyol, I left out Eto'o because David Villa was amazing this season scoring awsome goals creating somthing out of nothing he didnt have Ronaldinho putting in the pass for him and yet still managed to score, I chose Torres big he has been the best CLUTCH foward he stepped up to big games like against Barcelona, Cincinho played half of the season and yet scored 2 GREAT goals in half of the season that says alot more than Alves 2 goals for the whole season.The Zidane factor was because he has pulled out some pretty amazing goals this season INCLUDING his hat trick vs Sevilla :rolleyes: and thats why I chose them.

ps: I didnt see Alves in the WC squad this summer but I sure as hell saw Cicinho.

Well, like I said, you are a Madrid fan so your selections and non selections are understandable. The best XI of the year is usually a place for the best player in their respective positions throughout the whole season, not just in the clutch, or in a few specific games...that is why I LOL'd. Zidane definitely does not deserve to be on the team (even less as a CMF/DMF) because despite his occasional moments of brilliance, he was not one of the best througout the whole season.

Villa clearly deserves it, after all he led La Liga in scoring but selecting F.Torres over Samuel Eto'o (who is tied in 1st place with Villa in scoring) for the best XI of this season is absurd.

As for Marquez, I never suggested taking him out. If you see my first post when I opened the thread, he is on my best XI team. However, there is no justification for leaving Puyol out (other than you are a Madrid fan and refuse to pick a Barca player).

PS..La Liga best XI of 2005/2006 means who are the best players in La Liga of 2005/2006 season. Cicinho had his place on the seleção squad won from his days with São Paulo. In La Liga this season, Alves clearly had the better year and to suggest Cicinho did better despite the fact that he played half the season is ridicolous. But again, since you are Madrid fan I understand that you want to get as many RM players on the best XI squad as possible.

deviant

21-05-2006, 06:18 AM

PS..La Liga best XI of 2005/2006 means who are the best players in La Liga of 2005/2006 season. Cicinho had his place on the seleção squad won from his days with São Paulo. In La Liga this season, Alves clearly had the better year and to suggest Cicinho did better despite the fact that he played half the season is ridicolous. But again, since you are Madrid fan I understand that you want to get as many RM players on the best XI squad as possible.
Just because I am a Madrid fan does not mean Im being biased Cicinho is on a completely different level than Alves. I chose 1 more Madrid player over Barca's 2 Iker I do believe was WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Victor Valdes so if you think Im being biased Im not. Im not going to put the entire Barca squad though either now that would be biased.

R9magia

21-05-2006, 03:23 PM

Just because I am a Madrid fan does not mean Im being biased Cicinho is on a completely different level than Alves. I chose 1 more Madrid player over Barca's 2 Iker I do believe was WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Victor Valdes so if you think Im being biased Im not. Im not going to put the entire Barca squad though either now that would be biased.

If you say you're not biased I guess I just have to take your word for it. But leaving out Puyol-Eto'o and including Zidane and Cicinho despite the fact that one (Zidane) had a normal season and the other (Cicinho) played half a season is just odd. Forget about including Zidane and Cicinho how is it justifiable to leave out Puyol for Ayala and Eto'o out for El Niño? One is regarded as the best defender in La Liga and the other was tied for the league lead in scoring and both were on the best team in the league.

Thats why at least it looks like you're clearly being biased. I mean the only Barca player you selected (and he did deserve it) besides the obvious choice of Ronaldinho is a player who plays for your favorite national team (R.Marquez).

bobkat

21-05-2006, 05:44 PM

the whole ayala over puyol thing is interesting.

Pawelec

21-05-2006, 06:34 PM

-------------Valdes------------
Belletti--Marquez---Puyol--Gio--
-------------------------------
------------Iniesta-------------
--Van Bommel-----Deco---------
-------------------------------
Messi-------------GOD-Ronaldinho
----------Eto'o-----------------

This team is best in the world!

deviant

21-05-2006, 06:38 PM

Thats why at least it looks like you're clearly being biased. I mean the only Barca player you selected (and he did deserve it) besides the obvious choice of Ronaldinho is a player who plays for your favorite national team (R.Marquez).
I guess Ronaldinho nor Rafa Marquez deserve to be there again you accuse me of being biased lol.

ok here
---------
Belletti---Puyol---Rafa----Sylvinho
-------Edmilson--Motta----------
------------Deco----------------
--------Guily----Ronaldinho------
------------Eto'o----------------
I tried to include as many Brazilians as I could.

bobkat

21-05-2006, 07:06 PM

deviant mexa - I'm going to jump in on r9magia's defense. First off brazil is my most hated national team in the history of the universe ... after germany ;).

R9magia made excellent points as to what is wrong with your lineup. The main points are Cicinho, ayala, zidane in my eyes. Cicinho hasn't proven he deserves to be in this team yet, same with messi i think (they both need more time to be included).

Nobody and i mean NOBODY is saying marquez shouldn't be there. The man is a bastion of truth and justice ... or i mean defending. HOWEVER, Puyol must be included in the best 11. No doubt about it. The most hardy RM fan would include him.

Zidane had another lack luster year - no real consistency. In fact there was no real consistency in Madrid this year except perhaps casillas (brilliant) and guti (absolutely atrocious ;)).

That said i've agreed with you on multiple times - and I think you are trying to be unbiased in the team - but those few points are quite glaring mistakes.

EDIT - Also lacking eto'o is understandable. He had a bad final 1/3rd of the season. But he also had a magnificent CL and magnificent first 2/3rds. F. Torres I don't think performed as well overall, but that's more debatable than say Ayala vs. Puyol :P

saurabh

22-05-2006, 03:42 AM

------------Casillas--------------
Alves----Puyol--Coloccini--Aurelio
------Riquelme--Albelda----------
Messi--------Aimar----Ronaldinho
----------David Villa-------------

barcalove

22-05-2006, 04:13 AM

------------Casillas--------------
Alves----Puyol--Coloccini--Aurelio
------Riquelme--Albelda----------
Messi--------Aimar----Ronaldinho
----------David Villa-------------
bleh that lineup is so valencia and liverpool-future-transfer-target biased...

fabio aurelio?!?! in the best XI for this year?! come on dude. he started 11 games, came on as a sub in 13... in two years hes started a grand total of 27 matches for valencia and come on as a sub in 18... in... two... years...

what exactly did aimar do this year to deserve being in your best XI?

bobkat

22-05-2006, 05:00 AM

aurelio over pernia? no way ... pernia is really the ONLY choice for left back.

karmaf1

22-05-2006, 05:04 AM

bleh that lineup is so valencia and liverpool-future-transfer-target biased...

fabio aurelio?!?! in the best XI for this year?! come on dude. he started 11 games, came on as a sub in 13... in two years hes started a grand total of 27 matches for valencia and come on as a sub in 18... in... two... years...

what exactly did aimar do this year to deserve being in your best XI?

The guy doesnt know shit about football, he proved it again and again. Don't waste your time replying to him mate.

givemehistory

22-05-2006, 10:09 AM

what exactly did aimar do this year to deserve being in your best XI?

Heh, I'll cut saurabh some slack on this one since this has been -- in my opinion -- one of the best seasons -- if not THE best -- Pablito has had since moving to Spain. He's played the most minutes out of the season, and he's been the most consistent re: injuries (although at the end there he was getting shaky). He also won this year's EFE award, or whatever it's called, for best Latino American player in La Liga. That being said, I still think Riquelme has played at a better level of competition, given Villarreal's run in the CL. (But I do have Aimar on my bench. ;))

Although, the rest of saurabh's list I can't defend. Aurelio at left back? Riquelme in a DEFENSIVE position? COLOCCINI??!! Just ... no words. :rolleyes:

malicia

22-05-2006, 04:29 PM

------------------Casillas---------
Dani Alves-------R.Marquez-------Puyol-----Pernia
--------------Marcos Senna---------------
----Messi--------Riquelme--------Ronaldinho---------
--------David Villa---Samuel Eto'o---------

Hard one really. Not sure Messi should really be in there yet, but yeah, why not.
Also Cani I think should, but not sure how I would then change it up. Can always load up the bench I guess.

R9magia

22-05-2006, 08:26 PM

I guess Ronaldinho nor Rafa Marquez deserve to be there again you accuse me of being biased lol.
Huh :confused: ? Perhaps I should be blantantly clear. Ronaldinho, Yes. Marquez, Yes. Cicinho over Alves, No. Ayala over Puyol, absurd. Torres over Eto'o, absurd. Zidane over any top La Liga player this year, absurd. Zidane in a defensive position, :eek:
ok here
---------
Belletti---Puyol---Rafa----Sylvinho
-------Edmilson--Motta----------
------------Deco----------------
--------Guily----Ronaldinho------
------------Eto'o----------------
I tried to include as many Brazilians as I could.
Did I ever say anything about including more brazilian player? No.

Hmm..Already it's a better line-up than your original one. Sylvinho, Motta, Belett and Giuly don't belong there though.
Do what you want though. Put Ayala in for Puyol and Zidane at the defensive midfield position if that's what you really think :rolleyes:

deviant

22-05-2006, 09:40 PM

Huh :confused: ? Perhaps I should be blantantly clear. Ronaldinho, Yes. Marquez, Yes. Cicinho over Alves, No. Ayala over Puyol, absurd. Torres over Eto'o, absurd. Zidane over any top La Liga player this year, absurd. Zidane in a defensive position, :eek:

Did I ever say anything about including more brazilian player? No.

Hmm..Already it's a better line-up than your original one. Sylvinho, Motta, Belett and Giuly don't belong there though.
Do what you want though. Put Ayala in for Puyol and Zidane at the defensive midfield position if that's what you really think :rolleyes:
Zidane is in a CENTRAL position but I guess thats hard to tell for you if you want to put all the brazilians and catalans in the XI thats your problem and your opinion mine is mine and I am standing by my decision to have Zidane in the XI for god sakes he was named in the FIFPro XI lol.

barcalove

22-05-2006, 10:20 PM

Zidane is in a CENTRAL position but I guess thats hard to tell for you if you want to put all the brazilians and catalans in the XI thats your problem and your opinion mine is mine and I am standing by my decision to have Zidane in the XI for god sakes he was named in the FIFPro XI lol.
calm down dude, not everything is a catalan-brasilian conspiracy against madrid players and fans. take a breath.

bobkat

22-05-2006, 10:28 PM

i think that r9magia's post was directed more at saurabh deviant.

r9magia is actually talking about how cicinho doesn't deserve a spot on that list ... actually i think that dinho is the only brazillian on that list :P.

People need to relajate with their bad selves.

If you actually go through and read R9's posts - he's only said intelligent things. And for the record I have no love (absolutely none) for brazil. They are the enemy and will always be the enemy because of 94 and 98, and this year I pray for their demise with a vengeance unlike any other seen on this earth ... mmmk?

R9magia

23-05-2006, 02:47 AM

Zidane is in a CENTRAL position but I guess thats hard to tell for you if you want to put all the brazilians and catalans in the XI thats your problem and your opinion mine is mine and I am standing by my decision to have Zidane in the XI for god sakes he was named in the FIFPro XI lol.

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calm down dude, not everything is a catalan-brasilian conspiracy against madrid players and fans. take a breath.

deviant

23-05-2006, 04:33 AM

calm down dude, not everything is a catalan-brasilian conspiracy against madrid players and fans. take a breath.
I am calm Im making a point :rolleyes: I just dont see WHY I cant have Zidane in my XI shoot me I guess.

ZIZOU EL MEJOR

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malicia

23-05-2006, 05:30 AM

I am calm Im making a point :rolleyes: I just dont see WHY I cant have Zidane in my XI shoot me I guess.

ZIZOU EL MEJOR

Aw poor guy :) You can have him in there!

the point though was to pick this year's best XI and there is certainly doubt as to why he would be in there from THIS year's performance on the pitch. IMO (and apparently that of many) there were players who did better this season.

R9magia

23-05-2006, 08:42 AM

Aw poor guy :) You can have him in there!

the point though was to pick this year's best XI and there is certainly doubt as to why he would be in there from THIS year's performance on the pitch. IMO (and apparently that of many) there were players who did better this season.

And the point was that it wasn't all about Zidane. It was also about Ayala over Puyol, Cicinho (who played half a season) over Daniel Alves or even Miguel and Torres over Eto'o. But again, it's his team so he can do what he wants. But when you pick a team like that you should expect to be questioned.