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The start of the 2006-07 Serie A campaign has been put back until the weekend of September 9-10, the Italian Football League announced on Tuesday.
Serie A and Serie B were scheduled to begin on August 27, but both programmes will now start a fortnight later due to the repercussions of Italy's recent match-fixing scandal.
Juventus have lodged appeal with the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) against the sanctions imposed on them, and Fiorentina and Lazio are expected to follow suit.
The football league announcement will be seen as a preventative measure as CONI may not reach their verdict until August 24-25.
Source (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1379141,00.html)
matt12345
02-08-2006, 01:49 AM
thanks for this, i was wondering if it was going to happen because this appeal is taking so damn long!!
Hopefully Juve gets back in A.
cityblues
02-08-2006, 09:19 PM
Hopefully Juve gets back in A.
Hopefully the Italian league ceases to exist...
Simon323says
02-08-2006, 11:42 PM
If Juventus was reinstated into A I would never accept another Italian season in which they finish in the top 10 as legitimate. FIGC had a chance to show that Italy was serious about getting away from the Mafia image and blew it. If they let Juve back up, they'd be admitting that they didn't just ignore it, they were in on it.
Lets just hope that the season stars on the 9th/10th Sep Weekend, hopefully not afterwards, the sooner the better.
Mark the Goalkeeper
17-08-2006, 01:16 AM
If Juventus was reinstated into A I would never accept another Italian season in which they finish in the top 10 as legitimate. FIGC had a chance to show that Italy was serious about getting away from the Mafia image and blew it. If they let Juve back up, they'd be admitting that they didn't just ignore it, they were in on it.
Oh give me a break! I am tired of people saying this is all Juve's fault. I'm tired of people thinking all the other clubs are squeaky clean while Juventus are left to be the scapegoats. Just give the verict already so we can move on from all this crap.
sak020
17-08-2006, 02:44 AM
if juve won cuz moggi bought the refs then what happened at the world cup ? if canna, zamrotta and buffon cant win unless the ref has been bought then what happened at the WC ? who bought the refs for them there ? in the final, juve was the most represented club ... what happened ?? did moggi pay fifa ? u ppl cant accept the fact that juve was way better than the rest of serie a ... the players are being punished for what moggi did and yet they are still ready to play in serie b and watch em advance to serie a next season and win the scudetto to shut up all those juve haters ....
deviant
17-08-2006, 04:13 AM
Hopefully the Italian league ceases to exist...
Then I hope you really like watching the Swiss and Greeks play because that would be the end of beautiful football
Simon323says
17-08-2006, 04:34 AM
Oh give me a break! I am tired of people saying this is all Juve's fault. I'm tired of people thinking all the other clubs are squeaky clean while Juventus are left to be the scapegoats. Just give the verict already so we can move on from all this crap.
I've said the same things in every damn thread discussing this topic and no one, especially the Juve supporters, can get it through their heads. So once and for all, the offenses committed by each club were of varying severity and so the punishments are as well. Milan, Lazio, and Fiorentina deserve to be reprimanded but have done nothing at all to justify relegation. I challenge you to name a specific incident involving one of these clubs that has been widely reported in the press. You can't, there isn't one. All specifics implicate Juve. (Note that I'm willing to assume that my club and others were guilty to an extent despite the dearth of evidence) Juve was the only team that locked referees in bathrooms for hours on end to force them to throw a game. The strongest, most specific evidence all points to Juve, any rational human can conclude that they were the worst offender, and so they deserve relegation, Trust me, if Milan, Fiorentina, and Lazio got off scot-free I'd be saying the same thing. It's about handing down punishment and what Juve received was fair.
if juve won cuz moggi bought the refs then what happened at the world cup ? if canna, zamrotta and buffon cant win unless the ref has been bought then what happened at the WC ? who bought the refs for them there ? in the final, juve was the most represented club ... what happened ?? did moggi pay fifa ? u ppl cant accept the fact that juve was way better than the rest of serie a ... the players are being punished for what moggi did and yet they are still ready to play in serie b and watch em advance to serie a next season and win the scudetto to shut up all those juve haters ....
Please, please, please take the extra thirty seconds to type your message in comphrensible language. It would make me much more likely to take you seriously.
From what I can gather, you contend that the success of Juventus players at the World Cup proves that Juventus didn't need to cheat. You're right, which makes it all the more reprehensible that they did. If we based our justice system on your logic, serial killers would walk because they had no need to kill their victims. Yes, you are also correct that Juve's (former) players are being punished for the actions of their chairman. Yet as I have said in numerous other threads, the chairman is just as much part of the intangible idea of a club as the supporters and players, he cannot be excused any more than a player who gambles can. To continue the metaphor, you would be in favor of allowing murderers to go free so their mothers aren't crushed by their convictions and imprisonment. Think your ideas through a little more next time.
Oh, and for the record, Juve, while cheating, won the scudetto by three points last year. Three. Much better than the rest of Serie A my ass.
u ppl cant accept the fact that juve was way better than the rest of serie a ...
Yeah, it was a landslide, wasn't it...? :rolleyes:
If juve were promoted back to A for this season it would be a complete farce.
sak020
17-08-2006, 02:52 PM
If we based our justice system on your logic, serial killers would walk because they had no need to kill their victims. Yes, you are also correct that Juve's (former) players are being punished for the actions of their chairman. Yet as I have said in numerous other threads, the chairman is just as much part of the intangible idea of a club as the supporters and players, he cannot be excused any more than a player who gambles can. To continue the metaphor, you would be in favor of allowing murderers to go free so their mothers aren't crushed by their convictions and imprisonment. Think your ideas through a little more next time.
i fail to see the connection between the current/former juve players and 'serial killers' .. i think we all agree that none of the juve players was involved in the match fixing therefore, none of them were guilty of the crime while serial killers might not have the need to kill but they do and that makes them guilty ... or is that too hard to understand ?
according to your logic, argentina should have been kicked out of USA 94 after maradona was found guilty.
'to continue the metaphor', you would be in favor of hanging the mother for the crimes of her son.
Think your ideas through a little more next time.
:)
i fail to see the connection between the current/former juve players and 'serial killers' .. i think we all agree that none of the juve players was involved in the match fixing therefore, none of them were guilty of the crime while serial killers might not have the need to kill but they do and that makes them guilty ... or is that too hard to understand ?
according to your logic, argentina should have been kicked out of USA 94 after maradona was found guilty.
'to continue the metaphor', you would be in favor of hanging the mother for the crimes of her son.
Think your ideas through a little more next time.
:)
A team is more than just the players on the pitch, bro.
Anyway, it is not enough to say that you could have won without cheating, you have to actually DO it. Juve didn't win without cheating, therefore they didn't win. Whether they were good enough to win or not is idle speculation.
Mark the Goalkeeper
17-08-2006, 05:24 PM
i fail to see the connection between the current/former juve players and 'serial killers'
1) Ibrahimovic
2) Vieira
Effing mercenaries the lot of them!
sak020
17-08-2006, 05:28 PM
i agree the club officials cheated and they've been punished for it . and to take away the last two scudettos is justified, also, if they subtract points from last year's total then europe is also out of the question, but, why the demotion to serie b ? its not that they were being relegated and cheated to stay in serie a ...
narduch
17-08-2006, 05:47 PM
i agree the club officials cheated and they've been punished for it . and to take away the last two scudettos is justified, also, if they subtract points from last year's total then europe is also out of the question, but, why the demotion to serie b ? its not that they were being relegated and cheated to stay in serie a ...
The standard punishment in Italy for match fixing is demotion to the next lower division.
Genoa were deomoted to C1 from B.
sweed
17-08-2006, 06:34 PM
Hopefully the Italian league ceases to exist...
i'm hoping that too...
If some people hate Serie A that much, then why do they bother?Stick to the leagues that you like and give us a break:rolleyes:
Simon323says
17-08-2006, 09:30 PM
i fail to see the connection between the current/former juve players and 'serial killers' .. i think we all agree that none of the juve players was involved in the match fixing therefore, none of them were guilty of the crime while serial killers might not have the need to kill but they do and that makes them guilty ... or is that too hard to understand ?
according to your logic, argentina should have been kicked out of USA 94 after maradona was found guilty.
'to continue the metaphor', you would be in favor of hanging the mother for the crimes of her son.
Think your ideas through a little more next time.
:)
You completely miss the point by clinging to the idea that players are the only people who should be held responsible for their actions at a club. I'm not comparing the Juve players to serial killers and never implied that I was. You claimed that Juventus, specifically Moggi, did not need to cheat and so should not be punished. I said that, by metaphor, serial killers do not need to kill their victims and so should not be punished. I'm not blaming the players for this, never have, never will, but they are not the entirety of a club.
By the way, cut the ad hominem attacks, they make you sound desperate. You're really stretching logic here to defend your club. If you didn't support them, you wouldn't be so fearful of the truth.
deviant
17-08-2006, 09:54 PM
i'm hoping that too...
then we can all watch Bayern win every single league title for 100 years at the Bundesliga.:rolleyes:
chauchey
17-08-2006, 11:31 PM
I feel the original punishments where sufficient, except for Juve. I feel a Serie C with no points deducted would have sufficed there.
sweed
18-08-2006, 04:09 AM
then we can all watch Bayern win every single league title for 100 years at the Bundesliga.:rolleyes:
or watch a league that is rigged, its your call. i mean we did win it fair and square...
deviant
18-08-2006, 04:19 AM
or watch a league that is rigged, its your call. i mean we did win it fair and square...
I might get more of a kick at that rigged league then maybe I'll be surprised at who wins :D . I already know who is going to win the Bundesliga this season I'll give you a hint... They always win. :p
sweed
18-08-2006, 04:36 AM
I might get more of a kick at that rigged league then maybe I'll be surprised at who wins :D . I already know who is going to win the Bundesliga this season I'll give you a hint... They always win. :p
well you're gonna have to wait and see who wins the bundesliga this year whereas it was a foregone conclusion who would win serie a.
deviant
18-08-2006, 05:15 AM
well you're gonna have to wait and see who wins the bundesliga this year whereas it was a foregone conclusion who would win serie a.
lol what are you talking about man Bayern wins every year where as Juve won 2 years Milan before that Roma before that Lazio Before that
nobuzz
18-08-2006, 05:26 AM
bayern munich only won it in 3 of the past 5 years, werder bremen won in 03/04 and bourissa dortmund won it in 01/02.
granted they have won it 20 times in the 43 years that it has been contested.
although you look at the premiership and until 2 years ago it was only man united (8) or arsenal (3) and blackburn once
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