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sirmax858
04-08-2006, 06:34 PM
I was looking over soccernet and I saw this headline(same as this thread's tittle) and I just started to laugh. Seriously how many times have rangers been warned? Seems like 100 times, at least:D

Rangers chairman David Murray has warned there will be no hiding from serious punishment if supporters continue to chant sectarian songs.

UEFA have written to the club lawyers following the an Ibrox request for clarification on the judgement on the behaviour of fans during the games against Villarreal last season.

The Light Blues were fined £13,300 by the European governing body for discriminatory chanting during the Champions League ties against the Spanish club earlier this year.

However, in their correspondence, UEFA have underlined a firm stand against any form of sectarianism is not limited to European fixtures and domestic matches will also be considered.

Consequently, Rangers will provide each fan entering Ibrox for the game against Dundee United tomorrow with the 'Wee Blue Book', which will feature a song list agreed between supporters' representatives and the club, a Pride Over Prejudice section, a list of penalties supporters face if they engage in sectarian behaviour and a telephone hotline for fans concerned over sectarian behaviour.

Fans who fail to comply will face the loss of season ticket, lifetime bans or arrest.

And, after avoiding having their ground closed last season as a punishment due to their achievements in combating sectarianism, the Gers owner has appealed to fans to refrain from such chanting.

Murray said: 'There is no doubt whatsoever that the club and the overwhelming majority of supporters are determined to do everything in our power to eradicate this problem.

'The issue of sectarianism in Scotland goes way beyond Rangers and football, but we are fully committed to playing our part.

'There should be no doubt now in supporters' minds that UEFA have made it clear that all forms of sectarian singing - including any version of the `Billy Boys' - are prohibited at domestic and European matches, home and away.

'Whether people think that is right or wrong or whether Rangers have been treated fairly or unfairly, that is the reality of the situation.

'We did ask UEFA for clarification following the fine they imposed and they have responded clearly.

'There is no appeals process. The appeals body determined that sectarian singing had taken place.

'UEFA acknowledged our achievements on sectarianism and that helped us avoid ground closure as a sanction.

'If the minority of supporters do not take that on board, then the club faces further and more serious punishment.

'We have to deal with the situation we are in and the vast majority of Rangers fans are in full agreement that Rangers should not suffer from the actions of a small minority who refuse to accept that sectarian behaviour is prohibited.

'We have done a tremendous amount as a club to address sectarianism.

'There has been progress and we are building on what we have done in the past.

'This is an exciting new era for Rangers on and off the pitch and we must rise to all the challenges we face.'

UEFA have already warned of the dangers facing clubs, whose fans are involved in any discriminatory chanting.

A UEFA statement said: 'Any national association or club whose supporters engage in behaviour which insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons, by whatever means, including grounds of colour, race, religion or ethnic origin will incur a minimum £13,000 penalty.

'In particular circumstances, the disciplinary body may impose additional sanctions on the member association or club responsible, such as the playing of one or more games behind closed doors, a stadium closure, awarding of a match by default, deduction of points or disqualification from the competition.

'Moreover, any form of extremist ideological propaganda is banned before, during, and after games.'

PortGlasgow
04-08-2006, 06:36 PM
fined for singing a song what a complete load of pish

Nelly
04-08-2006, 06:59 PM
It aint just Rangers that have been warned this time.Every club in Europe has been warned by UEFA.It doesn't matter if it's a domestic game or whatever,UEFA have said they wil take action against any club whose support breaks their conduct code.

A massive can of worms has been opened and I doubt it will be able to be closed again.

Raff67
04-08-2006, 07:19 PM
Template for the offended.

mail address - www.uefa.com

Uefa Moronic Complaints dept.
FAO yous are wurser than us. section

Dear Sur/Missus
I mur a fan of Glasgo Ranjurs/Glasgo Cellic ( delete as required )and am absulootely disgustet at the filthy sectarian chantin i heerd at the ranjurs/cellic geme on seturday.
It wuz pure oot oh order man an ah fink its time yoo banned them filty ****bags oot of yoorup

yoors faityhfooly


sign here.

pmsl:D

sirmax858
04-08-2006, 07:34 PM
Template for the offended.

mail address - www.uefa.com

Uefa Moronic Complaints dept.
FAO yous are wurser than us. section

Dear Sur/Missus
I mur a fan of Glasgo Ranjurs/Glasgo Cellic ( delete as required )and am absulootely disgustet at the filthy sectarian chantin i heerd at the ranjurs/cellic geme on seturday.
It wuz pure oot oh order man an ah fink its time yoo banned them filty ****bags oot of yoorup

yoors faityhfooly


sign here.

pmsl:D


hahaha...what do you have to say to that nelly:D

narduch
04-08-2006, 07:42 PM
fined for singing a song what a complete load of pish

Why not grow up instead, and leave all this sectarian crap at home, instead of bringing it to the games with you? There is no need for tribalism in football.

If anything, UEFA gave Rangers a slap on the wrist. But that's what they always do in situations like this.

PortGlasgow
04-08-2006, 07:57 PM
Why not grow up instead, and leave all this sectarian crap at home, instead of bringing it to the games with you? There is no need for tribalism in football.

If anything, UEFA gave Rangers a slap on the wrist. But that's what they always do in situations like this.

Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers :eek:

/edit isnt Club football built on Tribalism around the world except apparently North america?

sirmax858
04-08-2006, 08:08 PM
Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers :eek:

/edit isnt Club football built on Tribalism around the world except apparently North america?


hey dont downgrade Mexico! our footy is built on tribalism...its just the United states

dbzclips
04-08-2006, 08:37 PM
Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers :eek:

/edit isnt Club football built on Tribalism around the world except apparently North america?

No, club football was build to give men something to do on their newly-found free time other than drink, and gamble. :)

Nelly
04-08-2006, 08:38 PM
hahaha...what do you have to say to that nelly:DWell.......they started it.;)

And that's the 1st post in Dundonian I've ever seen on here.Well done Raff.Noo awa back tae the hulltoon.:p

narduch
04-08-2006, 08:58 PM
Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers :eek:

/edit isnt Club football built on Tribalism around the world except apparently North america?

At least I'm a Lazio fan with leftist/commie tendancies. :D

I personally believe tribalism doesn't belong in club football. And I'm disgusted at what it leads to sometimes.

I don't really want to pick on Rangers, it sounds like your club is trying to do something about it, I have great respect for Rangers for trying to make a difference.

But I hate tribalism in football because it promotes exclusiveness and promotes hatred against people who are different from the tribe in question.

Raff67
04-08-2006, 08:59 PM
Noo awa back tae the hulltoon.:p

Thats pyoor sectarian so it is ! At least its not lochee ;) Anyway i´m firing off a mail to yoofa to complain just in case. :p

All aboard the offended bus MRC...toot toot

Fenianbhoy
04-08-2006, 10:27 PM
At least I'm a Lazio fan with leftist/commie tendancies. :D

I personally believe tribalism doesn't belong in club football. And I'm disgusted at what it leads to sometimes.

I don't really want to pick on Rangers, it sounds like your club is trying to do something about it, I have great respect for Rangers for trying to make a difference.

But I hate tribalism in football because it promotes exclusiveness and promotes hatred against people who are different from the tribe in question.

Tribalism is what fan support is

Sam
05-08-2006, 12:40 AM
Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers :eek:

/edit isnt Club football built on Tribalism around the world except apparently North america?

Is this that Ajax dude from Tunisia ?

narduch
05-08-2006, 12:57 AM
Tribalism is what fan support is

But it doesn't have to mean hatred and intolerance as well.

Ultimate_Red_Devil
05-08-2006, 01:33 AM
http://www.szexi-mof.com/tim.jpg
Tim the Enchanter is not amused.

They can sing the songs in Gaelic, the UEFA would never know :rolleyes: (kidding)

karmaf1
05-08-2006, 02:55 AM
Wow a Lazio fan having a pop at Rangers

LOL! Exactly what I was thinking.

Fenianbhoy
05-08-2006, 06:19 AM
http://www.szexi-mof.com/tim.jpg
Tim the Enchanter is not amused.

They can sing the songs in Gaelic, the UEFA would never know :rolleyes: (kidding)

You're definetly jesting ?:p

But im definetly trying to pass that one off in the pub.

Raff67
05-08-2006, 08:17 AM
From the Daily Record...
"Our source added there is now absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind that UEFA's wrath will be quick and tough if Rangers fans indulge in sectarian or bigoted chants tomorrow during the game against Dundee United.

In their reply to Rangers' lawyers UEFA made it clear their instruction covers matches in all competitions, home or away, and it was stated specifically that any singing of the "Billy Boys" is strictly prohibited."

Heres another template for yoofa...

Dear UEFA ...


As a season ticket holder at Ibrox Stadium, soon to be renamed Le Guen Park, I was outraged and deeply offended to hear the singing of the Dundee United supporters on Saturday 5th August.

In between the normal "what a load of rubbish" and "McCracken McCracken, you are sh1te" chants was some fairly offensive singing of some 1970s retro hits.

As a God fearing man I take great exception to the day of the Lord being described as Beautiful. The song has a deeply sexual overtone to it, with lyrics like

"I've got someone waiting for me, when I see her know that she'll say, hey hey hey its a beautiful day."

There is certainly no doubt in my mind that some form of congigal relationship is being suggested at here. Surely UEFA do not condone songs about sex on a Sunday.

The other dirty ditty they sung was about Love being in the Air. This is clearly a drug reference and does nothing for our kids but send mixed messages about the use of narcotics.

These songs have no place at a football match and could lead to an outbreak of people with afro hairdoos, highheals and flares. This is most serious in my view and should lead to Dundee United FC being banned from the Champions League for the next ten years.

Yours trully,

Sign Here

:D

Fenianbhoy
05-08-2006, 08:36 AM
Absolulty Genius

Ultimate_Red_Devil
05-08-2006, 12:24 PM
You're definetly jesting ?:p

But im definetly trying to pass that one off in the pub.

Cò an caora sin còmhla riut a chunnaic mi an-raoir? :p

Raff67
06-08-2006, 09:49 PM
Oh my Nelly, seems my neighbours aint to happy...

UNITED HIT BACK IN RANGERS CHANT ROW

By Lisa Gray, PA Sport

Dundee United have angrily denied claims that their supporters sang sectarian songs in a deliberate attempt to provoke Rangers fans.

Rangers chairman David Murray had urged fans to banish bigoted tunes from Ibrox ahead of Saturday's Bank of Scotland Premier League match against the Tayside club.

The plea came in the wake of a £13,300 fine from UEFA for "discriminatory chanting" in their Champions League matches against Villarreal last season, as well as tough new directives issued by the football governing body.

Rangers fans kept it clean at the weekend but Ibrox security chief Laurence MacIntyre called a radio phone-in show when people complained of hearing proscribed songs during the match.

He told the BBC show it was United fans who were responsible for the chanting, saying: "I would view this as a rather sinister development. I was sitting in the heart of the Rangers support. It appeared that the songs were coming from the Dundee United end."

However, furious Tannadice chiefs claim their fans were simply singing a song similar to the banned 'Billy Boys'.

"There was no sectarian singing by Dundee United supporters at Ibrox," director Derek Robertson told said.

"United fans are almost unique in Scotland in that they paid for an anti-sectarian advertising hoarding to be placed permanently at Tannadice.

"Our fans are the forefront of campaigns against bigotry.

"There is a small element of our fans who sing a similar tune - and I wish they wouldn't - but there is no sectarian slant on it whatsoever."

He added: "We completely applaud Rangers FC and their fans on their anti-sectarian campaign. But we don't agree with deflecting attention onto other clubs' fans.

"No-one at Rangers raised the matter with us and maybe this could have been avoided if they had."

His claims were backed by the Rangers Supporters Trust.

Spokesman Stephen Smith said: "I was in the Broomloan Road stand, right next to the Dundee United supporters, and what they appeared to be singing was one of their own songs to the tune of the 'Billy Boys'.

"Three or four clubs have their own songs to the same tune, such as Kilmarnock, who sing "We are the Killie Boys".

"It just shows how stupid the UEFA judgement is. Are they going to ban any song to the tune of the 'Billy Boys'?"

But he believes Rangers are beginning to hammer home the message that sectarian behaviour will no longer be tolerated at Ibrox.

He added: "There there is no question that Rangers fans will continue to stick by the rules from now on.

"If they managed it in the first game of the season then there is no reason to suggest they will not do it for the remainder of the season.

"But the UEFA judgement affects all clubs - not just Rangers - and it is up to the SFA to ensure it applies to all clubs."

Now i hope you mailed yoofa ! pmsl

Nelly
06-08-2006, 10:51 PM
McIntyre is a classA fud.Always thought that.It makes a change from him persecuting Rangers fans.Good to see him having a go at the opposition.......even if he is talking total bollocks.