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saurabh
18-08-2006, 02:45 PM
Who will win La Liga this season?

My vote goes to Valencia.

Silas
18-08-2006, 02:47 PM
Who will win La Liga this season?

My vote goes to Valencia.
You are really out of your mind.

Did you know Barca signed Zamb-fucking-rotta and Thurram and Good-Johnson as well? In addition to their squad of last year?

Do you know anything about the New Madrid?

Where as Ayala is almost out.

Freddy
18-08-2006, 03:06 PM
You are really out of your mind.

Did you know Barca signed Zamb-fucking-rotta and Thurram and Good-Johnson as well? In addition to their squad of last year?

Do you know anything about the New Madrid?

Where as Ayala is almost out.

And do you know that Valencia signed Tavano and has almost signed Joaquin? Barca ofcourse are the favourites, but At. Madrid has improved a lot too. And the New Madrid - Calderon is like the last president - out of his mind, the exact same politics continue. Only one who can make difference is Capello, but I doubt he will make this big impact.
Anyway, I voted Barca.

indomitable_lion
18-08-2006, 03:44 PM
Barca are now like Chelsea, Bayern, and Lyon. The league title is no longer up for discussion when it comes to them. You can wonder about who will win 2nd place and the cup.

kidujp
18-08-2006, 04:38 PM
Doesn't matter what new additions they made, but Atleti and least of all Zaragoza is considered a title contender for this year... No way.

Atleti will be a contender for a CL spot and I'm pretty sure with the new additions and the coach they'll get there. Zaragoza ... even their supporters are not considering them that.

And if ayala leaves, there goes Valencia's chances for even a 2nd place finish this year. Valencia had the best defence and ayala is the heart and soul of it and once he leaves, the mighty defence collapses. Whatever they buy in the offense is not going to compensate that.

And as for madrid, let's wait and see. The weakness in defense they had is gone and if ronaldo gets fit fast and stays fit, they'll give us a fight but I still believe that their lack of depth in the middle, will hamper their title challenge.

And as for barca, we have the same squad as last time with nice additions, giving us some depth in defence. With both xavi,iniesta,deco, edmilson and motta and even saviola coming in as an attaking mid/striker, we have a great mid and even the best defences will have a hard time dealing with ronnie, eto'o , messi, guily and gudjohnson. So I say, we wrap up the title faster than last year.

Silas
18-08-2006, 04:58 PM
And do you know that Valencia signed Tavano and has almost signed Joaquin? Barca ofcourse are the favourites, but At. Madrid has improved a lot too. And the New Madrid - Calderon is like the last president - out of his mind, the exact same politics continue. Only one who can make difference is Capello, but I doubt he will make this big impact.
Anyway, I voted Barca.
Never underestimate the power of Becks+Ruud.

west501
19-08-2006, 04:23 AM
you know, maybe it's just the preseason, but I'm not sure how sharp eto'o is going to be this year
he's been pure brilliance for the last two seasons but how long before he drops off in production?
he wasn't the same after coming back from the african cup of nations and this could be a problem if he can't find his form
I know barça are not a one man team, but say eto'o scores 8 fewer goals and we see how fragile even the world's bestteam really is
that could amount to 10 points in the standings and we could see another team pass them
that being said, they did start out rather slowly last year
even if they win it this year I think we're going to have a race
can't wait

Cafiex
19-08-2006, 04:28 AM
I think Real Madrid.

deviant
19-08-2006, 04:57 AM
I really dont think we will win it this season I know we'll play great but we're going to have a slump for sure. Im more confident we'll win it next season

DMprorR
19-08-2006, 06:42 AM
I really dont think we will win it this season I know we'll play great but we're going to have a slump for sure. Im more confident we'll win it next season


But do you think that we are going to at least win a trophy this yeah? I mean how long can we go on in the wilderness. Isn't Capello our Moses. I hope he is. I thought he had come with his Ten commandments and will instill it into the squad. I do hope some miracles happen this season for us. I really feel we have a sqaud that can pull it off. It is going to be hard but our sqaud is hungry and I can feel it. Barca have won the CL and Liga and should now be feeling lazy on their butt just a little. No matter how they say the are not, it is psycological and they would feel it subconsiously.

If Diarra makes it here, then we have all the attacking and defensive prowess to take liga. Having the solid back and then Emerson and Diarra in fron of them will give the rest of our attacking players the freedom to decimate any defence. I hope Real is back and we need to believe in ourselves this year if we really want to pull this off. It is not going to be any easy but I feel we can do it.

Go for it Real Madrid.:cool:

mancunian145
19-08-2006, 06:49 AM
Barca for now. Real Madrid in a few years.

drachen
19-08-2006, 06:49 AM
Who will win La Liga this season?

My vote goes to Valencia.

That's because you're a rafaholic :p

broseph
19-08-2006, 06:52 AM
Barca are now like Chelsea, Bayern, and Lyon. The league title is no longer up for discussion when it comes to them. You can wonder about who will win 2nd place and the cup.


maybe its off topic but i find this so boring. i support Lyon and Barca but i really wish other teams would put up more of a fight sometimes.

Freddy
19-08-2006, 09:31 AM
Real begins to play boring. 4 defenders and 2 DM-s, but hey - that`s Capello!
Anyhow..I think Real is stronger than last year, but so are other top teams in La Liga, so it`s going to bemore intense than last year.

deviant
20-08-2006, 12:09 PM
Real begins to play boring. 4 defenders and 2 DM-s, but hey - that`s Capello!
Anyhow..I think Real is stronger than last year, but so are other top teams in La Liga, so it`s going to bemore intense than last year.
so far capello has only used 1 DM :confused:

FERRARI
20-08-2006, 12:31 PM
Real doesn't have a chance against Barcelona. Even with a trainer like Capello when you have so many "superstars" it's dificult to create a team that will really work like one. They will all work for themselves and not for the team. Barca, although it has some pretty good names in the team doesn't have that problem.
My money is on F.C. Barcelona. Go Barca!!!

barca4life
20-08-2006, 08:59 PM
But do you think that we are going to at least win a trophy this yeah? I mean how long can we go on in the wilderness. Isn't Capello our Moses. I hope he is. I thought he had come with his Ten commandments and will instill it into the squad. I do hope some miracles happen this season for us. I really feel we have a sqaud that can pull it off. It is going to be hard but our sqaud is hungry and I can feel it. Barca have won the CL and Liga and should now be feeling lazy on their butt just a little. No matter how they say the are not, it is psycological and they would feel it subconsiously.

If Diarra makes it here, then we have all the attacking and defensive prowess to take liga. Having the solid back and then Emerson and Diarra in fron of them will give the rest of our attacking players the freedom to decimate any defence. I hope Real is back and we need to believe in ourselves this year if we really want to pull this off. It is not going to be any easy but I feel we can do it.

Go for it Real Madrid.:cool:
Real madrid needs someone who has a good vision, someone who is technically good, you guys got enought defensive midfielders , emerson, diara. you don't need any buldogs , you need someone who is creative and can find solutions in the midfield, if Madrid gets a player of this kind then they might have a good shot at the liga this year :)
good luck :D

kuuze
20-08-2006, 11:15 PM
Real Madrid...

gastador
20-08-2006, 11:16 PM
I still see it as only Barca v Madrid, but the Catalans have a much better chance with Real still having to adjust to the new signings.Still, Madrid will be much tougher to crack now, i predict we won't lose a lot of games but am afraid that the draws might hurt us badly.

I agree with the lack of creative midfielders, only real playmaker seems to be Guti, but he is not good enough to be in the first 11.First game against Barca will be very important, if we can keep up with them till the game and then beat them, we stand a good chance.However, i think we have a much better chance in the Cup or maybe even the CL if the draw is right.

Next year if Capello stays and the team signs a quality ''fantasista'' the title race should be completely even.Unfortunately, Barca's midfield is best in the world and they ll play for quite a few more years, and if they manage to sign a world-class goalkeeper they be dominating La Liga for years to come...

Unregistered
21-08-2006, 01:32 AM
Real is good enough to win everything in Europe. I say not only we'll win La Liga, but we'll win our 10th CL. :cool:

jpm085
21-08-2006, 07:38 AM
Real and Barca are favourites, Valencia can 'surprise' beating them, Maybe Atltetico can get CL. Can't wait to see the season started.

tsteling
21-08-2006, 02:28 PM
You are really out of your mind.

Did you know Barca signed Zamb-fucking-rotta and Thurram and Good-Johnson as well?

Actually it is Goodjonsen:rolleyes: and this makes a difference;)
Barcelona is straight favourite for me. I'm curious of Atletico play.

kidujp
21-08-2006, 04:53 PM
Real is good enough to win everything in Europe. I say not only we'll win La Liga, but we'll win our 10th CL. :cool:

Time to use my youngest kid's favourite quote

Good luck with that...


:p :D :D :D

drachen
22-08-2006, 12:47 AM
Who is the "other" team? Malaga? Cadiz? Bilbao? :p

deviant
22-08-2006, 05:10 AM
Time to use my youngest kid's favourite quote


:p :D :D :D
Thanks for the confidence and support :D

saurabh
22-08-2006, 06:10 AM
Who is the "other" team? Malaga? Cadiz? Bilbao? :p

I think Ensio voted for Betis.

trek900
22-08-2006, 06:33 AM
I hope that barca dont win it
Because i am sick of the barca talk, they are so good and blba-bla-bla. this ronadhnnhojh lol is teh best and ....blablaaaa

My vote goes to Valencia

Siner
22-08-2006, 11:21 AM
There is only one team ,which can win La Liga - Barcelona :)

During mercato Barcelona signed Zambi, Gudi and Thuram and nobody good left,so Barca has got the biggest chance to win it :)

drachen
22-08-2006, 01:00 PM
^ Wow, talk about over rated. When those 3 left no one good was transfered to any other club? Those 3 must be the greatest players of our lifetime!

end sarcasm

Ensio
22-08-2006, 05:06 PM
I think Ensio voted for Betis.

Yes I did. :)

But Betis needs Joaquín and Oliveira. If they leave, next season will be as bad as the previous one.

sccr_11
22-08-2006, 05:48 PM
Joaqin just join valencia

Ensio
22-08-2006, 07:05 PM
Joaqin just join valencia

He hasn't joined Valencia yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won't.

drachen
23-08-2006, 01:33 AM
Calderon is planning to buy a whole new team :D
Are we done signing players or is there another surprise in store?
There will be at least one more presentation according to Pedja and Capello. Whoever it is will be the last player signed.

A strong attack and an even stronger defense. I still say Real Madrid bias aside :p

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6288diarraposep.jpg

deviant
23-08-2006, 04:18 AM
Calderon is planning to buy a whole new team :D


A strong attack and an even stronger defense. I still say Real Madrid bias aside :p

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6288diarraposep.jpg
and maybe just maybe
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060821/capt.4ebd77f736d2425aba71ec52c483671c.serbia_italy _soccer_champions_league_xsi103.jpg
Real Madrid's president will meet AC Milan representatives Wednesday to discuss their interest in signing Ronaldo.

Ramon Calderon said Tuesday he didn't plan to sell the Brazilian striker even though Milan already has approached Ronaldo, who's recovering from a knee injury.

"We have to listen to the player's opinion and that of our training staff," Calderon told Cadena SER radio station Tuesday.

Calderon hinted he would welcome an exchange for Milan forward Kaka, a player he promised fans while campaigning for his position in July.

"Swapping Ronaldo for Kaka wouldn't be bad," Calderon said.

Madrid's new coach Fabio Capello said the interest in Ronaldo showed "he was still an interesting player."

The addition of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Madrid's roster could affect the playing time of Ronaldo, who spent five years in Milan with rival Inter before joining Madrid in 2002. Ronaldo has two years left on his contract

drachen
23-08-2006, 11:22 AM
He wears glasses? couldn't you find a less geeky pic of him. I was like, whose that, then I saw the Milan badge :p

deviantmexa that means you have to change your sig :D

Imran
23-08-2006, 03:20 PM
I am pretty sure Barca will take it out again, cant really see anything else happening!

z_likewhoa1
24-08-2006, 09:25 AM
Real Madrid, to win the treble!! The only justification I have for this statement is that I would never pick any other team over Madrid :P The way a team should be supported!!!

sccr_11
25-08-2006, 04:20 AM
He hasn't joined Valencia yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won't.
he did join valencia for 25 mil

cameron1981
25-08-2006, 02:07 PM
Never underestimate the power of Becks+Ruud.

Villa+Joaquin > Becks+Ruud...

I think Barca will win it again. THough Valencia are looking bloody strong this season, Villa to top score in La Liga, just beating Eto'o.

1) Barca
2) Valencia
3) Real
4) Sevilla/At Madrid

La Liga is looking damn good this season.

cameron1981
25-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Real Madrid, to win the treble!! The only justification I have for this statement is that I would never pick any other team over Madrid :P The way a team should be supported!!!

Everyone should support their team with one eyed bias views?
Umm ok... :rolleyes:

Sean Jacobs
25-08-2006, 06:05 PM
Barca doesn't have the best mid, u know who does.... ;)

As for who will win this? Few lucky breaks, injury free it can be anyone. However Barcelona has immense depth almost every position. The clear choice would be Barcelona but Capello has done wonders. Interesting to see how the year will shape up. :)

Freddy
26-08-2006, 12:23 PM
Barca doesn't have the best mid, u know who does.... ;)

As for who will win this? Few lucky breaks, injury free it can be anyone. However Barcelona has immense depth almost every position. The clear choice would be Barcelona but Capello has done wonders. Interesting to see how the year will shape up. :)

So who does?

Chelsea? Gotta be kiddin me. They have big names there, but it doesn`t mean they have the best midfield. If you watch the game you seethat Barca has the most dominant midfield.
ANyway, it will be a very interesting season :P

tashi
27-08-2006, 09:14 AM
So who does?

Chelsea? Gotta be kiddin me. They have big names there, but it doesn`t mean they have the best midfield. If you watch the game you seethat Barca has the most dominant midfield.
ANyway, it will be a very interesting season :P

i think he was hinting at madrid since we're discussing la liga here

DanneS
27-08-2006, 09:21 AM
Except for the obvious 'equipos de fútbol magico' Barca and Real Madrid,
Valencia and Sevilla looks like contenders for the top spots this year.

I haven't seen ATL or Zaragoza play yet this season so I don't know about them.

Fac1
27-08-2006, 09:29 AM
He wears glasses? couldn't you find a less geeky pic of him. I was like, whose that, then I saw the Milan badge :p

Trendy, damnit! Those frames look identical to mine...

nimme
27-08-2006, 05:56 PM
Barcelona will win it again with Real Madrid close behind!

trocoloco
28-08-2006, 09:25 AM
This year, although Barcelona are the favourites again, there teams have reinforced themselves with real good players like Aimar and Dalessando for Zaragoza or the new At. Madrid and Valencia adquisitions and Deportivo, that they are always up to fight for the first places. So is open with lots of talents spreaded all over la Liga.

meierlynk
28-08-2006, 09:30 PM
valenica i am hoping, but i know it will be tougher this year for barcelona to win it again

akibo
28-08-2006, 09:32 PM
Getafe perhaps :D:p


..will finish among top 6, the winner'll obviously be Barca.

harithfakhrudin
01-09-2006, 05:27 PM
barca will face a superb competition from real madrid. the presence of capello will bring a huge difference. my vote goes to real madrid anyways.

moymatt
01-09-2006, 05:53 PM
barca will face a superb competition from real madrid. the presence of capello will bring a huge difference. my vote goes to real madrid anyways.

seriously, I can't believe so many are just writing off real madrid. They picked up a number of great players, Cannavaro, RVN, Diarra, and lost who.... Gravesen, Baptista? Gravesen really isn't good enough to be playing for real and Baptista didn't really fit into their system. And they got Reyes yesterday who I'm speculating will play 10x better in spain seeing as how he can finally stop bitching about a move to his boyhoood dream club. And I don't know why everyone's bitching about the 2 DM's thing, it is going to free up the fullbacks to get forward as much as they do(but actually having cover for them), Carlos and Cicinho are alright defenders but to really get the most out of them, they should be bombing forward at every opportunity and with this formation, they can without fear of being caught out.

Barca have added Gudjonsen to replace Larsson(even/downgrade), Zambrotta, which is good cause Barca don't have a great right back, and thuram, who's what 35, and I'm not sure if you saw at the world cup, but he's kinda getting to be past it. He was doing alright in the italian league because it's slower, but how do you think he's gonna do in a faster league? They lost Van Bommel. True, maybe Barcelona have a first 11 that can still beat anyone, but I think over a season with injuries and form changes, Real are going to surprise a lot of people.

FireHand
01-09-2006, 07:52 PM
I can't believe you are confident enough to state that a Barcelona side that has been playing together for nearly 3 season without major changes can be outplayed by a group of players that haven't been playing together for even a month.
Furthermore the depth of Real's squad is so much shallower then that of Barca. Barca have atleast 2 world class players in each position, can you honestly say Real do too?
Now before you go and argue lets see the facts:
Here are both the squads for the season:
FC Barcelona:
------------------------------Víctor Valdés-----------------------------
----------------------------(Albert Jorquiera)---------------------------
-Gianluca Zambrotta--Rafael Márquez--Carles Puyol--Gio Van Bronckhorst-
---(Juliano Belleti)----(Lilian Thuram)-(Presas Oleguer)---(Sylvinho)-------
-------------------------José Gomes Edmilson--------------------------
----------------------------(Thiago Motta)-----------------------------
-----------Anderson De Souza Deco--Hernández Creus Xavi--------------
---------------(Andrés Iniesta)-----------------------------------------
-----Lionel Messi--------------------------------------- Ronaldinho-----
---(Ludovic Giuly)-----------------------------------(Santiago Ezquerro)-
---------------------------------Samuel Eto'o--------------------------
-------------------------------(Eidur Gudjohnsen)-----------------------
Manager
Frank Rijkaard

and CF Real Madrid:
Goalkeeper
Iker Casillas
Rodríguez Diego López
Defence
Senfélix Raúl Bravo
Fabio Cannavaro
Joao de Nazare Cicinho
Iván Helguera
Álvaro Mejía
Óscar Miñambres
Francisco Pavón
García Sergio Ramos
Roberto Carlos
Fernández Michel Salgado
Midfield
David Beckham
Mahamadou Diarra
Ferreira da Rosa Emerson
José María Gutiérrez Guti
Javi García
Attack
Antonio Cassano
González Blanco Raúl
José Antonio Reyes
Robson de Souza Robinho
Ronaldo
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Manager
Fabio Capello
Now you may notice I didn't put Real in a formation, because I don't know what Capello plans to do. I've however taken the liberty of marking the starting line-up in bold. The line-up is consistent to the players Capello has been choosing as his starters so far this season. This will probably change in the future so please don't complain that I didn't choose the strongest or best players.
My personal opinion is that players like Cicinho and Robinho both deserve spots in the starting 11 but we all know Capello is a defensive coach and he has consitently chosen to ignore them.
Add to that the fact that Capello has been booed on his own stadium by his own fans because of the way Real played was too defensive and lacked any attractive attacking play. And that was in his 1st official match. If this continues you can expect the infamous white handkerchiefs on the stadium before too long. Everyone knows that in Spain to be a true champion you don't only have to win, you have to play beautifully and win.


Now when comparing the squad can you honestly say Real has more depth then Barca? Can you even say that Real has a single player that is superior then the Barca player that is playing in the same position?
Add to that the team chemistry between the Barca players and the lack of it in the newly assembled Real.

No, no my friend Real are not going to be contenders this year. They lack to many things. Personally I think that the likes of Valencia or Sevilla (my current favourites for second spot) will come closer.

Thanks to anyone that read the entire post and I hope we can have some good discussion on the matter.

Feelinstyle
02-09-2006, 06:23 AM
Agree with FireHand. I mean, come on! Did you see them in their pre-season matches. They had a very solid defence, an average midfield and they offensive were non-existent for most the games. I saw their first La Liga match but I'm sorry, that team looks exactly like Capello wanted it to: A very defensive team with stereotype style who seriously lacks inspiration and sense of initiave. Only cassano was fighting hard in front, Nistelrooy was simply a ghost.

That has got to improve a lot and when I when I say a lot I mean A LOT!!

mirko1
03-09-2006, 12:00 PM
I am a Real fan, but I agree with all that was written above. I mean when I watched barcelona pre-season matches I was realy impresed. They played such fluid football, allways attacking no matter what the resault was. There was allways somebody who you could pass the ball, all players were attacking and all players were defending ( except Ronaldinho ). Their lines were very compact and it looked like they realy understand each other.

But when I watched Reald Madrid I was bored. I must say that I dont care if we win all the matches, if we are going to play like we started the league I will die of boredom. Real should have brought Arsene Wenger he would brought us titles with style. But no we had to go with Capello, with his borring style of play. Sometimes I have a filling that his strategy is to bore the opponents till they fall a sleep and than slowly and quietly, without waking anybody up (including us fans) put the ball in to the net. The only positive thing I saw so far at Real was Cassano it looks like the kid has some talent.

The greatest strenght of barcelona in my oppinion is team work and not Ronaldinho who in my oppinion is turnning into next Ronaldo (I am willing to discuss on this subject ). I mean they have great players but the real star of Barcelona is their coach who created this winning team from nothing. He allways brought only those players who can add something to the team and never lost his objective which is to have well balanced team of fighters. And the best buy of barcelona ... Eto'o he is a machine - if any, than he is the key Barcelona player - his speed and stamina are just incredible. An if I just think It just to be our player - depressing.

jorquera
03-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Mirko1, what do you mean by saying Ronaldinho is next Ronaldo?

mirko1
03-09-2006, 11:11 PM
Mirko1, what do you mean by saying Ronaldinho is next Ronaldo?
I mean that I have a feeling that the fame got in his head and he is becoming a lazy player who wants to perform tricks. I got that feeling by watching WC and Barcelona preseason matches. He is not physicaly fit and he looks a litle chubbier than last year. In Korea 2002 he was always running attacking and defending but now it seams to me he only attacks and when he loses the ball he doesnt return to defend. Look maybe I am wrong but that's the feeling I got when I watched him.

Besides It seams that something is going on between Rykard and Ronaldinho, and I think it's got something to do with his status in the team. The first year when he came to Barcelona they were wery depended on him. But now he is becoming just another 1. team player. Messi, Eto'o, Iniesta, Deco, Xavi, can all handle the playmaker position wery well and on top of that they run more than Ronaldinho.

Does any one else agrees with what I wrote?

jorquera
04-09-2006, 04:36 PM
I mean that I have a feeling that the fame got in his head and he is becoming a lazy player who wants to perform tricks. I got that feeling by watching WC and Barcelona preseason matches. He is not physicaly fit and he looks a litle chubbier than last year. In Korea 2002 he was always running attacking and defending but now it seams to me he only attacks and when he loses the ball he doesnt return to defend. Look maybe I am wrong but that's the feeling I got when I watched him.

Besides It seams that something is going on between Rykard and Ronaldinho, and I think it's got something to do with his status in the team. The first year when he came to Barcelona they were wery depended on him. But now he is becoming just another 1. team player. Messi, Eto'o, Iniesta, Deco, Xavi, can all handle the playmaker position wery well and on top of that they run more than Ronaldinho.

Does any one else agrees with what I wrote?
You have a point, but he still is the most important player for Barca, though other players can replace him. There have been rumors that he and Rykaard had a dispute, but no lialble sorce has confirmed that. My guess is that he doesn't do so much dirty work anymore because he's a star now, a World Best Player. But in 2002 he wasn't such a star as he is now and then he had to prove that he deserves to be a starter. Now he is world best and who would leave the world best out of starting line-up.
First ten games in the La Liga should show us if he's got fame in his head or not. So I guess basicly I have to agree with you except about the fame in his head thing.

DriveShot
05-09-2006, 01:44 AM
Real's fate lies in their mid season trade for a play maker. If they pick up someone to link everything together they have a chance to win, if they don't I dont see them winning the season. I love Guti but he's not consistent enough to be the main play maker. I can see them getting by until the mid season trade opens up again.

After the Brasil vs Argentina game I dont see how Capello can not want Cicinho on the team. Robinho and Cicinho were absolutely fantastic in that match. If Capello gets rid of Cicinho I will loath him.

moriraul
19-09-2006, 03:11 PM
1. Barcelona
2. Valencia
3. Real Madrid
4. AT Mardrid
5. Sevilla
6. Deportivo
7. Zaragoza
8. Betis
9. Villarreal
10. Celta

deviant
21-09-2006, 11:24 PM
Now when comparing the squad can you honestly say Real has more depth then Barca? Can you even say that Real has a single player that is superior then the Barca player that is playing in the same position?
Add to that the team chemistry between the Barca players and the lack of it in the newly assembled Real.

Hell yeah Iker Casillas for one

sola_phides
22-09-2006, 12:26 AM
1. Barcelona
2. Sevilla
3. Valencia
4. Real Madrid
. . . . . .

xacebop
30-09-2006, 07:53 AM
valencia will win it this year, they are in excellent form and with barcas loss of eto'o i can see them pulling ahead early, my concerns are with real madrid though, they are a very unsettled team atm and if they find that top form they can definetly be dangerously later on, especially in the champions league.

nikk86
30-09-2006, 09:37 AM
Hell yeah Iker Casillas for one

Cassilas, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo (after he gets a few games under his belt) Cannavaro. I'm tempted to put even Ramos in there.

Dee
30-09-2006, 10:23 PM
I can't believe you are confident enough to state that a Barcelona side that has been playing together for nearly 3 season without major changes can be outplayed by a group of players that haven't been playing together for even a month.
Furthermore the depth of Real's squad is so much shallower then that of Barca. Barca have atleast 2 world class players in each position, can you honestly say Real do too?
Now before you go and argue lets see the facts:
Here are both the squads for the season:

Now you may notice I didn't put Real in a formation, because I don't know what Capello plans to do. I've however taken the liberty of marking the starting line-up in bold. The line-up is consistent to the players Capello has been choosing as his starters so far this season. This will probably change in the future so please don't complain that I didn't choose the strongest or best players.
My personal opinion is that players like Cicinho and Robinho both deserve spots in the starting 11 but we all know Capello is a defensive coach and he has consitently chosen to ignore them.
Add to that the fact that Capello has been booed on his own stadium by his own fans because of the way Real played was too defensive and lacked any attractive attacking play. And that was in his 1st official match. If this continues you can expect the infamous white handkerchiefs on the stadium before too long. Everyone knows that in Spain to be a true champion you don't only have to win, you have to play beautifully and win.


Now when comparing the squad can you honestly say Real has more depth then Barca? Can you even say that Real has a single player that is superior then the Barca player that is playing in the same position?
Add to that the team chemistry between the Barca players and the lack of it in the newly assembled Real.

No, no my friend Real are not going to be contenders this year. They lack to many things. Personally I think that the likes of Valencia or Sevilla (my current favourites for second spot) will come closer.

Thanks to anyone that read the entire post and I hope we can have some good discussion on the matter.

Totally agreed...

Dee
30-09-2006, 10:39 PM
I am a Real fan, but I agree with all that was written above. I mean when I watched barcelona pre-season matches I was realy impresed. They played such fluid football, allways attacking no matter what the resault was. There was allways somebody who you could pass the ball, all players were attacking and all players were defending ( except Ronaldinho ). Their lines were very compact and it looked like they realy understand each other.

But when I watched Reald Madrid I was bored. I must say that I dont care if we win all the matches, if we are going to play like we started the league I will die of boredom. Real should have brought Arsene Wenger he would brought us titles with style. But no we had to go with Capello, with his borring style of play. Sometimes I have a filling that his strategy is to bore the opponents till they fall a sleep and than slowly and quietly, without waking anybody up (including us fans) put the ball in to the net. The only positive thing I saw so far at Real was Cassano it looks like the kid has some talent.

The greatest strenght of barcelona in my oppinion is team work and not Ronaldinho who in my oppinion is turnning into next Ronaldo (I am willing to discuss on this subject ). I mean they have great players but the real star of Barcelona is their coach who created this winning team from nothing. He allways brought only those players who can add something to the team and never lost his objective which is to have well balanced team of fighters. And the best buy of barcelona ... Eto'o he is a machine - if any, than he is the key Barcelona player - his speed and stamina are just incredible. An if I just think It just to be our player - depressing.

I'ma glad someone finally said it about ronaldinhio.. I am a barca fan at heart.. But he irritates me more than anyone else on the team.. I watch every barca game since I've been a fan and I can see that ronnie focused on entertainment and not on pure football. I mean he's all about the tricks and the big plays.. I think rijkaard tries to tell him to be simple sometimes and just play the simple pass and thats where disputes arise. As well as the fact that he doesn't defend and all he does is wine and fall down.. I respect him as the greatest playmaker in the world but ronnie has so much more to learn about being a complete soccer player. I think is sponsors tell him not to defend so he doesn't get injured. Whatever it is when a player loses the ball any coach will teach you to run that ball down. Those are complete pplayers regardless of the position or status. I've seen ronnie lose a ball within his half with no support chase the guy for 2 yards and then let him go, to stop and cry to the ref..
Ronnie needs to look at players like gerradd and learn how to be a complete footballer. He doesn't have to tackle like him but get back behind the ball at least.. That would be enough for me..No crying no falling everytime he's touched, just play the game....

Love ronnie, he does alot for us but without the rest of that team ronnie is just another brazilian with skill...Play every game like it your last...Like the coach will bench ya if you don't give it ya all...

Barca made him famous, not the other way around..

Sorry i just had to get some stuff off my chest about ronnie, cause i don't like lazy players..I'm grateful for the hardwork of the rest of the team.. Especially ETO and PUYOL..

Quick recovery mate ETO...We need you

deviant
01-10-2006, 05:09 AM
I'll let you guys know when I finish FIFA 07

Pizziesta
13-06-2007, 02:44 PM
Ehem! Nice thread :D :D :D

wong_ma
13-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Ehem! Nice thread :D :D :D

definately...its off course...em...

Pizziesta
13-06-2007, 02:56 PM
definately...its off course...em...
Just go through the whole thing again.. ;) (just 7 pages)

Silas
13-06-2007, 03:00 PM
Never underestimate the power of Becks+Ruud.
Villa+Joaquin > Becks+Ruud...
Sure they are. :rolleyes: :D

Pizziesta
13-06-2007, 03:02 PM
Sure they are. :rolleyes: :D
There are more jokes. :D

wong_ma
13-06-2007, 03:20 PM
1. Barcelona
2. Sevilla
3. Valencia
4. Real Madrid
. . . . . .

valencia will win it this year, they are in excellent form and with barcas loss of eto'o i can see them pulling ahead early, my concerns are with real madrid though, they are a very unsettled team atm and if they find that top form they can definetly be dangerously later on, especially in the champions league.

like these 2? lol

Pizziesta
17-06-2007, 07:49 PM
Just three hours away from the 'Official Answer!' ;) :)

burke
17-06-2007, 08:38 PM
Madrid hopefully

wong_ma
19-06-2007, 03:59 PM
a little late for this thread...but MADRID!!! WOOOO

Magnifican
18-09-2007, 12:06 PM
This Season i really hope Barcelona..
and i wont mind if Real Madrid got last and moved down to 2nd division, lol ;)

Maybe Valencia and Sevilla will be great..
But i hope Barca all the way! Henry and Ronnie will dominate :D

^tim^
18-09-2007, 12:08 PM
i'm with Barcelona. well i hope they do, i'm not to keen on the other teams.

Pizziesta
18-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Madrid! Madrid! y Madrid!

^tim^
18-09-2007, 01:01 PM
Madrid! Madrid! y Madrid!


why? lol

Slvarrw
20-09-2007, 07:09 PM
vote goes to valencia becos they play beautiful football and are a young team with huge potential.

Pizziesta
20-09-2007, 08:13 PM
vote goes to valencia becos they play beautiful football and are a young team with huge potential.

..and they have a wonderful coach with whom fans are really happy :)

maziarj
20-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Madrid will win the la liga this year in sure of it, hopefully they'll win CL too:)

wong_ma
21-09-2007, 09:24 AM
why? lol

cause you voted for barca =D

Boez
08-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Another vote for the Barça!!:D

roma_barca
08-10-2007, 02:58 PM
second boez sentence !
Barca ! Barca ! Barca !
* :) * * :) * * :) *

mrjayman12
08-10-2007, 10:02 PM
would like 2 see valencia win it :)

bennmartin
09-10-2007, 04:50 AM
Barca are now like Chelsea, Bayern, and Lyon. The league title is no longer up for discussion when it comes to them. You can wonder about who will win 2nd place and the cup.

this post made me laugh:D

^tim^
09-10-2007, 09:00 AM
would like 2 see valencia win it :)

me as well mate. i don't want real madrid to win it. anybody but them :o :p

illenium
11-10-2007, 11:21 AM
barca and the fab 4 for sure.

lazymagician
11-10-2007, 11:00 PM
Barca!

FCB
12-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Barca!

no doubt about it

smooth
15-10-2007, 01:32 PM
Real Madrid !!!!!!!!!!!
Now we finally have caracter,talent was always there....let's just dissapoint all the haters again.:D

Zico
15-10-2007, 11:39 PM
Real Madrid !!!!!!!!!!!
Now we finally have caracter,talent was always there....let's just dissapoint all the haters again.:D

I really wish you were right m8... but since the question who will La Liga I would hate to admit I think its going to be the catalans :mad:

Had the question been who do you want to win La Liga then my answer would've been our beloved madrid.

Our squad is really young and I'm afraid their lack of experience (or at least lesser experience to Barca) will bite us come crunch time last year. How much I would love to be wrong on this one :) I hope I am, just like last year :D

phenomenom
15-10-2007, 11:48 PM
Real Madrid. no matter what, i will always pick my team, just like last season.

Kaká22
16-10-2007, 11:21 AM
Real Madrid for sure, Barca close second. I wouldn't mind seeing Valencia win it though