AS Roma Thread

[jorquera]

I think the transfer window for Italian clubs has ended now. What a day for us! Pjanic, Gago, Kjaer and Borini all in one day.

Here (http://www.legaseriea.it/it/serie-a-tim/calcio-mercato/squadre/-/trasferimento/1718) you can see the new players that have been registered by Roma.

EDIT. No Stekelenburg on this list which is kinda weird.

[Sktrad]

The "incoming" transfer window is now over, indeed: although players can still be sold. A few hours remain before the French close their own transfer window, so Borriello, for instance, could still leave … Brighi was loaned to Atalanta. Borini's deal is surprisingly expensive (1.5M Euro or so to loan him and 8M more for a definitive transfer next year) — I don't know who the fellow is, hence the astonishment.

I ignore the criterias with which these numbers were put together, they need to be taken with a grain of salt but they are surely gratifying:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1428/expenditure.jpg
from transfermarkt.it (http://www.transfermarkt.it/en/statistiken/startseite/transfers.html)

[TechGuyatNY]

i'm dancing in rejoice over the signing of pjanic

what a deal! he's easily worth 15m IMO. arsenal should've signed him, but too bad because he's OURS now :D. i was jealous when RM signed sahin and juve signed vidal. but we have pjanic now! hoping he'll do well for us and stay with us for years to come. quality player. i remember watching him for the first time 2 years ago and not knowing who he was. i was impressed i had to look up his name on wiki, fm scout, pesstatsdatabase, etc. lol

i like how borini is our first and only italian signing of the summer :cool:

i think our lineup next season will be something like

ozzy/marco totti bojan/lamela
pjanic
ddr piz/gago
angel juan/disso kjaer rosi/cicinho
stk

once again we're weak on right back, but we're more or less sound everywhere else

[Whoah10115]

Juan will be the best defender in Serie A this season. Book it.

[TechGuyatNY]

Juan will be the best defender in Serie A this season. Book it.

juan's getting old :( but i'm betting pjanic will be one of the best upandcoming young players this season and will be one of our 3 top performers

[Whoah10115]

juan's getting old :( but i'm betting pjanic will be one of the best upandcoming young players this season and will be one of our 3 top performers



Yeah but Juan is Juan. As Kjaer doesn't suck, you'll see the year Juan has.


And Pjanic is a hell of a buy.

[TechGuyatNY]

Yeah but Juan is Juan. As Kjaer doesn't suck, you'll see the year Juan has.


And Pjanic is a hell of a buy.

i remember the first match i saw pjanic play. it was the 5-5 thriller vs marseille. it was the first time i saw him, let alone hear about him. i was impressed enough to look him up and never forgot him since. he's always too expensive though in FM so i could never buy him. always liked him as a player even before we were linked with him

he's easily my favorite buy of the summer so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9GaCR0LqG0

[Whoah10115]

i remember the first match i saw pjanic play. it was the 5-5 thriller vs marseille. it was the first time i saw him, let alone hear about him. i was impressed enough to look him up and never forgot him since. he's always too expensive though in FM so i could never buy him. always liked him as a player even before we were linked with him

he's easily my favorite buy of the summer so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9GaCR0LqG0


Lyon bought Gourcuff, without the intention of playing them together and now they've sold Pjanic for chump change and Gourcuff...we'll see.


But this buy really can't be understated. He and Lamela, whether 2-2 in the middle or 1-2-1 as the attacking 4, in front of Rossi and hopefully Pizarro...that's vicious.

[talk2smc]

whew, back from vacation, couldnt post here but kept up with all the news.

first thigns first, which for me ALWAYS revolves around our Captain. PLEASE Roma.....dont self destruct with this bullshit between LE, Sabatini, Baldini and Totti. PLEASEEEEEE, we have the strongest squad in sooooo many years.


De Rossi HAS to be convinced to sign on, he would do it NOW if Roma gave him the money he wants so fucking GIVE IT TO HIM! its De Rossi, i will be heartbroken if he leaves... AND possibly like Mexes did if we fuck this up too.

Europa exit- nice one LE. NOT IMPRESSED. got a lot fucking wrong. im nervous to say the least.


now, players.

Bojan, Kjaer, Lamela, Pjanic, Stekenberg- A fucking + signings

Osvaldo, Angel, Gago, Borini, Nego, unsure...but satisfied. only really disappointed in the amount of cash we paid for an unproven Osvaldo which I dont think will score as many as Mirko would have but welcome to be proven wrong.

hard done on Brighi, always liked him, and Borriello surely is hating life now.
LE needs to get shit together and fast, and show he can handle this squad.




excited....as ive never seen a summer like this one as a Roma fan in like 15+ years, but nervous as Rome is not a patient place to be.

[TechGuyatNY]

current player salaries in Serie A


http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9833/59110173.png (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9833/59110173.png)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1204/75269080.png

we're on the 2nd page. i'm surprised perrotta makes so little. and we really need to sell cicinho

[talk2smc]

Cicinho is and has been a fucking waste.

awesome that we have wages cleared by Sabatini tho, like Baptista recently, Doni was waaaaaay up there which is why he didnt ever want a transfer, Mexes and Mirko made deserving wages but are clear now.

a biiiit surprised that Kjaer, Osvaldo, and Pjanic make that. put in clean sheets, 15 goals, and 8 assists this year and then ill pop in with a word for a raise.

Serie A back for us on Sunday, more time to gel as a unit and open at home v Cagliari.


Totti called on a united Roma. im hoping he starts, and hoping he scores to send a msg to Cellino, LE, and Italy.

[TechGuyatNY]

loving the atmosphere

[talk2smc]

Welcome to life at Rome LE.

Totti worked like our only inspiration. Pjanic was impressive, Angel too.

Gava's decision to send Angel off is appalling. go back to Serie B with that bullshit.
we start slowly again, LE has no ideas, no clue as to what to do. Osvaldo wanted to play centrally the whole time, Bojan was wasted, its all cute fucking Barca possession with no product.

never known a Roma to struggle for goals.

knocked out of Europe, no win, HOME LOSS to start the season 0-2 v Cagliari with a new coach. jesus fucking christ. gonna be a long season guys.

[TechGuyatNY]

the performance wasn't as bad as it sounds. but points are more important than performance, and thats what matters in the end. we played well, but still lost due to individual errors

angel put in a lot of dangerous crosses, dribbled well, but in the end, it was his poor clearance that led to the first goal, and his red card buried us. it deserved a straight red. rush of blood to the head. angel's still young, he'll learn. even though he's a left back, he was probably our best offensive player (along with pjanic). that said, angel was also our worst defensive player

our right side (bojan/perrotta/rosi) were all pretty much invisible. osvaldo had the touch of a retarded wayne rooney, and possessed a weak foot technique of man on crutches

DDR/totti never looked like gaving up so props to them. and borriello should definitely be starting over osvaldo/bojan

[arxl]

Osvaldo has the feet of a fucking ogre.

[talk2smc]

gut reactions are that Angel's challenge wasnt a red.
that Pjanic needs to start every match.
that Osvaldo was overpriced and a gamble.
that ride side of mid w Rosi and Bojan did nothing.


I seriously dont understand how we can be struggling for goals. the cant keep a clean sheet part we are all used to.

but it isnt getting any easier with Inter away next week. i think todays performance is exactly what to expect for however long Enrique is around. possession, no movement with it, alot of work, and minimal chances.

[Whoah10115]

Welcome to life at Rome LE.

Totti worked like our only inspiration. Pjanic was impressive, Angel too.

Gava's decision to send Angel off is appalling. go back to Serie B with that bullshit.
we start slowly again, LE has no ideas, no clue as to what to do. Osvaldo wanted to play centrally the whole time, Bojan was wasted, its all cute fucking Barca possession with no product.

never known a Roma to struggle for goals.

knocked out of Europe, no win, HOME LOSS to start the season 0-2 v Cagliari with a new coach. jesus fucking christ. gonna be a long season guys.



Chill, my friend.



Osvaldo surprised me with how good he is. But he's clearly the striker in the 3, and he's playing it from the left. Tactically, the whole team was very solid and they were disciplined. But if you're gonna have your striker play from the left he's gotta be Villa. He's gotta be Bojan (who I expect). He's gotta be Nilmar, who was overpriced but is a great player. I think this guy is also very good but overpriced, considering what he's done. However, how good he can be is very good. I just don't see the reason to have him there. I also think he won't be a starter and that Lamela will be in the 3man front, like Ronaldinho used to at Barcelona.


Borriello sub was dumb. To have both of them together, I can't understand, especially with Totti there. Should be gone.



However, both of your fullbacks are incredibly skilled. They're both really young but they're going to be a terror if Luis Enrique is stubborn enough to stick with them. Heinze was great and Burdisso was very good. Juan will be back and he will be the best CB in football this year.



And be happy, because De Rossi is unquestionably the best defensive midfielder in the world and he was ridiculous this game. Long ball after long ball, as precise as possible. He lost some weight, he was doing his box-to-box thing again. He was doing everything. And Pjanic, like I said, is the single best buy any team made the entire transfer window. And Perrotta also came alive during the game. Very good game.



And, as I know it brought a tear to your eye, Totti was fantastic. Doing the Bergkamp thing, which could very well just be the Totti thing. If you add Lamela in place of Osvaldo, and let Bojan be the striker from the wing (and he has to be exactly that), on top of all the creativity and passing precision you got from Totti, you will have him scoring goals as well.




All I'm trying to say is, if Luis Enrique is stubborn enough and not to stubborn, you can win Serie A. And you can.

[talk2smc]

different perspectives on the same game. didnt see any of that from Osvaldo or Bojan, Rosi either.

to me it looked like a new unproductive style (proven in preseason struggle for goals, and Europa exit) and the old guard, Perrotta, De Rossi, and Totti pulling the side along on their backs yet again.

agrred on Pjanic tho, super pumped for him.

[Nakata]

different perspectives on the same game. didnt see any of that from Osvaldo or Bojan, Rosi either.

to me it looked like a new unproductive style (proven in preseason struggle for goals, and Europa exit) and the old guard, Perrotta, De Rossi, and Totti pulling the side along on their backs yet again.

agrred on Pjanic tho, super pumped for him.

I thought Osvaldo was pretty bad. But I'll give him time.

Bojan was almost non existent. I'd think he works well when he's on the same side as Angel.

Rosi was better in the second half. I hope we buy a RB next transfer window.

I think De Rossi needs to push up a bit more as well as Totti. I saw improvement. Can't wait till we gel more!

[soheil86]

different perspectives on the same game. didnt see any of that from Osvaldo or Bojan, Rosi either.

to me it looked like a new unproductive style (proven in preseason struggle for goals, and Europa exit) and the old guard, Perrotta, De Rossi, and Totti pulling the side along on their backs yet again.

agrred on Pjanic tho, super pumped for him.

rosi did well in attack, he cut inside and made numerous good passes into the middle. he must improve his crossing though, as he always hits it at the defenders. he is a liability defensively though, we should have bought cassani from palermo who went to fiorentina on the cheap. he would have been excellent for the 4-3-3 system.


osvaldo was a poor acquisition technically and tactically, specially for the price paid. he is best suited to 4-4-2 just like borriello. he isnt good enough technically to play on the wings and in the middle there is no room for him.

[TechGuyatNY]

bojan was invisible

osvaldo kept cutting into his right foot which is irritatingly predictable

we're linked with bastos now, http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/roma-plan-new-raid-lyon-bastos-1881901

[Whoah10115]

rosi did well in attack, he cut inside and made numerous good passes into the middle. he must improve his crossing though, as he always hits it at the defenders. he is a liability defensively though, we should have bought cassani from palermo who went to fiorentina on the cheap. he would have been excellent for the 4-3-3 system.


osvaldo was a poor acquisition technically and tactically, specially for the price paid. he is best suited to 4-4-2 just like borriello. he isnt good enough technically to play on the wings and in the middle there is no room for him.



I think Rosi is very good, from the game I watched. He's a defensive risk, but he has the ability to be good on that side, as long as he always gets back and keeps working. He also has to continue getting chances. Tho I don't think anyone could complain if Cassani had been bought.



Agree on Osvaldo's use, but his touch is actually very solid. It's a question of what he's going to do from the left side. He would have been fantastic in the middle of 3, but that would be a waste of Totti. Playing with a wing striker should mean Bojan, because he is a striker. Nilmar would have made much more sense for what it is, but I do think Osvaldo is good. I just think he won't be much of a starter this year. Lamela is awesome and I think he'll start more.




we're linked with bastos now, http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/roma-plan-new-raid-lyon-bastos-1881901




I'd say there's no chance of that happening. He's really got no place on this team.

[talk2smc]

tribal football is a terrible source. and Bastos and agent coming out hours later saying its BS. and glad for it.


Inter losing in the CL mid week today, no better time than this Sat for LE to step up and put 3 huge points on the table after a wounded Inter played mid week.

they scored 3 v Palermo away tho and its Inter still. step up LE and get your first win.

[Whoah10115]

tribal football is a terrible source. and Bastos and agent coming out hours later saying its BS. and glad for it.


Inter losing in the CL mid week today, no better time than this Sat for LE to step up and put 3 huge points on the table after a wounded Inter played mid week.

they scored 3 v Palermo away tho and its Inter still. step up LE and get your first win.




Huge game and I'm banking on Roma.



Will Juan be available? I imagine Kjaer will be (tho I don't know if he'll start) and if Juan is available (or even Kjaer) I'd guess that Heinze would be LB and play it a little safer in the back? What's the diagnosis on my boy?

[talk2smc]

Huge game and I'm banking on Roma.



Will Juan be available? I imagine Kjaer will be (tho I don't know if he'll start) and if Juan is available (or even Kjaer) I'd guess that Heinze would be LB and play it a little safer in the back? What's the diagnosis on my boy?

my assumption is Heinze at LB, i would prefer Cassetti's experience at RB, and Juan and Burdisso in the center, but if Juan isnt fit itll have to be Kjaer. unless Heinze plays in the center and we play Nego or Cicinho or someone out of position on the left.

shame Gava was an idiot, as Angel should be playing, never was a red.

but lets hope for a win. show up LE.

[TechGuyatNY]

lineups are out on ESPN

Cesar
Lucio Samuel Ranocchia
Zanetti Obi Cambiasso Nagatomo
Forlan Milito Sneijder
subs: Castellazzi, Bianchetti, Jonathan, Muntari, Zarate, Castaignos, Pazzo

Stek
Perrotta Burdisso Kjaer Taddei
Pizarro DDR Pjanic
Borini Totti Ozzy
subs: Lobont, Heinze, Cassetti, Rosi, Gago, Bojan, Marco

god help us all. whatever happens this match, win or lose, it's gonna end in tears for us roma fans

[talk2smc]

never seen Perrotta and Taddei used this way, and has to be a blow for Rosi, Cassetti and Heinze.

Borini is very exciting. Kjaer as well. Osvaldo, eh. needs to get working.

Lucio by the way is a fucking waste of a man.

[TechGuyatNY]

all football and roma-bias aside, i'm kinda worried for stekelenburg. i hope he's alright

fucking moratti. it should've been a red. would've been if it werent inter

[talk2smc]

no chance Lucio gets sent off. guy could punch someone square in the face and get a talking too.

still struggling for goals. everything came on the left side last week, this week everything on the right. havent really tested Cesar well beyond one or two chances thru Osvaldo and Borini.

pretty uninspiring if im honest.

[TechGuyatNY]

pizarro now... where did inter find this ref?

cambiasso caught him dead on

[TechGuyatNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVkk45eSmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVkk45eSmI

[talk2smc]

add up the amount of touches Osvaldo has taken and easily tackled away in possession.

if his only move is cut back on the edge of the 18 to his right foot, but fucking Bojan or Borriello on so they can work.

[talk2smc]

gotta be honest. Borini should start every game if he plays like this. Borriello to for Osvaldo every day of the week.

[TechGuyatNY]

Kjaer also

[TechGuyatNY]

this was the best match for us result-wise

our performance last week though was better

no complaints from me with the result, i expected us to fall apart with simone/taddei on the flanks. they played full 90 too credit to them. we had to go more defensive after stekelenburg got murdered by lucio. no angel also means less creativity

only one team and one manager tried today out there and it was ours. muntari coming on for forlan as the last sub sums it up

fast recovery to stekelenburg. i hope he's alright

kjaer motm IMO

[talk2smc]

def only one team out there until maybe the last 10 minutes.
would have liked to see what we would have done with Lucio properly sent off and banned for that bullshit.

still question some of the movement and its clear the players are carrying out instructions, like Borriello late on hugging the touchline.

improvement, Tuesday v Siena at home, have to start scoring goals.

[TechGuyatNY]

siena.... our child club. if we dont win, it'll be a humiliation

they also happen to be my second favorite club, obvious reasons

[talk2smc]

siena.... our child club. if we dont win, it'll be a humiliation

they also happen to be my second favorite club, obvious reasons

Thursday game, my mistake, and its a must win. no excuse, then again to me so was Cagliari.

and i have to admit, i dont get that one...particularly the relationship between the Ultras..Roma dont really look well upon Siena..

(then again the Ultra situation is not one I advocate, typically vocal about its ridiculousness)

[TechGuyatNY]

it's a shame LE starts de rossi as an auxiliary centerback. this is the 2nd game we really started looking menacing after gago's introduction and de rossi being pushed up further

hopefully the both of them will start together next match

[Whoah10115]

Can't begin to understand how Heinze didn't start. He played great last week and Angel is suspended. So Taddei is trotted out. And I think he makes a lot of sense at right back...at right back.





Plain and simple: Osvaldo needs to play in the middle. But Totti deserves to be starting right now (tho he was mostly bad today), so he has to play the false 9. Borini really didn't play well but he did a lot of things and showed the intent and willingness. He also showed the sense of a player like him and a player like Bojan playing that position. Osvaldo just should not be out on the left and the combo of him and Borriello leaves me speechless. How is Luis Enrique trying to play so fluid and yet so like that?


I still see the quality in this team. I think you have the best squad in the league.

[TechGuyatNY]

Can't begin to understand how Heinze didn't start. He played great last week and Angel is suspended. So Taddei is trotted out. And I think he makes a lot of sense at right back...at right back.





Plain and simple: Osvaldo needs to play in the middle. But Totti deserves to be starting right now (tho he was mostly bad today), so he has to play the false 9. Borini really didn't play well but he did a lot of things and showed the intent and willingness. He also showed the sense of a player like him and a player like Bojan playing that position. Osvaldo just should not be out on the left and the combo of him and Borriello leaves me speechless. How is Luis Enrique trying to play so fluid and yet so like that?


I still see the quality in this team. I think you have the best squad in the league.

LE wants to play wingbacks and not fullbacks, and i guess in his opinion, taddei is the better wingback. totti is already playing false9. see this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D0GnV1LOOM

and borini was our best attacker. he's beaten rannochia so many times it's not even funny. osvaldo is garbage. borriello was better but he didn't have enough time.

[talk2smc]

Borini was fantastic...biggest threat until he was taken off.

Osvaldo is awful,work ethic terrible, and with one move. and im harsh on him bc of his price and bc of his experience in this league. not a fan of the signing.

Stek is ok, Lucio saying bullshit comments to deflect how ridiculous his playing 'style' is.

and I am actually enjoying De Rossi in this role...a bit more freedom even tho as everyone can see and has admitted we are terribly susceptible to counters right now

[Whoah10115]

LE wants to play wingbacks and not fullbacks, and i guess in his opinion, taddei is the better wingback. totti is already playing false9. see this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D0GnV1LOOM

and borini was our best attacker. he's beaten rannochia so many times it's not even funny. osvaldo is garbage. borriello was better but he didn't have enough time.




I understand, but Taddei on the left is very rough.

The problem is Totti doing the false 9 with a player like Osvaldo on the left. That is never gonna work and no matter how well you guys play you're going to struggle for goals that way.


Borini was fantastic...biggest threat until he was taken off.

Osvaldo is awful,work ethic terrible, and with one move. and im harsh on him bc of his price and bc of his experience in this league. not a fan of the signing.

Stek is ok, Lucio saying bullshit comments to deflect how ridiculous his playing 'style' is.

and I am actually enjoying De Rossi in this role...a bit more freedom even tho as everyone can see and has admitted we are terribly susceptible to counters right now



I don't agree that Borini was fantastic but I do think he was better than I gave him credit for in my previous post. More than anything I saw a player who was a better fit and could be fantastic, even this season. Osvaldo is clearly a very good player but it's just obvious he shouldn't be there. You might not agree but if he was in the center I think he'd be much better. So since he can't be then the question is why is he in the lineup at all? Borini has to start the next match, opposite Bojan. Regardless of tracking back, those guys will run, and Totti will get the chance to be in the box more often...BTW, when is Lamela due back?

[talk2smc]

Lamela not being rushed back. this whole season is a transition for him anyway at 19. maybe 3-4 more weeks, could be wrong tho.

have to admit the fullbacks, Cassetti, Rosi, Cicinho, etc must have been upset to see the teamsheet but it worked v Inter, tho Angel surely would have started if not for Gava's idiocy with the red card.

Siena next on thursday and from watching them v juve at the weekend, we cant take it lightly. D'Agostino and Calaio looked quite up for it. but we really need the first win at home


also- reports Reja asked to quit Lazio today after they were booed off the pitch at their home loss v Genoa at the weekend.

Roma fans cheered the players off after losing to Cagliari. and De Rossi stated after Inter, Roma fans know there is a project building and that it will take time. but the football is impressive at times.


lets hope

[fcb_sandy05]

I'm certain Osvaldo spent more time adjusting that ridiculous head band/pony tail thing he has going on than making off the ball runs.

He could be an effective player for what Roma are trying to do but I'm not sure that's going to happen on the left wing. Or at least not immediately.

Marcotti has an article in the WSJ about the enormity of the challenge Enrique has taken on. The quotes from Sacchi on what he perceives to be the difference in mentality between Spanish and Italian players in interesting.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904106704576578681777958852.html?K EYWORDS=GABRIELE+MARCOTTI

[talk2smc]

I'm certain Osvaldo spent more time adjusting that ridiculous head band/pony tail thing he has going on than making off the ball runs.

He could be an effective player for what Roma are trying to do but I'm not sure that's going to happen on the left wing. Or at least not immediately.

Marcotti has an article in the WSJ about the enormity of the challenge Enrique has taken on. The quotes from Sacchi on what he perceives to be the difference in mentality between Spanish and Italian players in interesting.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904106704576578681777958852.html?K EYWORDS=GABRIELE+MARCOTTI


Marcotti is a genius. highly recommend his writings, and books.

as for Osvaldo, questioned the buy. felt Roma was pushing to bring someone in to replace Vucinic, and gambled onthe wrong player. i like all the other signings, and most have seemed to take on LE's philosophy. but he needs to show up with something to convince me soon, all hes done so far is lose the ball.

[Whoah10115]

Marcotti is a genius. highly recommend his writings, and books.

as for Osvaldo, questioned the buy. felt Roma was pushing to bring someone in to replace Vucinic, and gambled onthe wrong player. i like all the other signings, and most have seemed to take on LE's philosophy. but he needs to show up with something to convince me soon, all hes done so far is lose the ball.



I think he's done more than that but he's never going to convince you there, of that I'm sure. He has to depend on Totti getting benched or doing a lot off the bench. Both him and Borriello should be sold in the Winter and I'm adamant on that. And I think that if he ever played for Italy he'd be the best option at the striker position (at least right now), but he won't fit here and it never made sense. Nilmar made much more sense. Bojan and Borini make much more sense.

[talk2smc]

Osvaldo wont be sold in January, probably neither Marco. but Pablo def not with the money Roma just put into him, and hes on like a 4 yr deal now.

and never was a fan of overpriced Nilmar either.

[jorquera]

Luis Enrique once again got outsmarted by an opposition coach. Ridiculous.

[talk2smc]

Luis Enrique once again got outsmarted by an opposition coach. Ridiculous.

fucking ridiculous.

the whole game i knew it was coming. if Gasp is ousted after 5 games without a win, we better hold on, cuz i dont see one coming soon.

jesus, its pretty clear his ideas are shit half the time.
we keep possession but dont move it forward, we are sooooo susceptable on the counter and at the back.

fuck sakes, in truth they should have won it without Kjaer saving the ball on the box after an awful game.


all im thinking is what Spalletti, Ranieri, or even Montella would be doing with this squad, jesus christ.

[talk2smc]

3 goals. have you EVER known a Roma to struggle scoring?

the worst part is us playing thursday when we already knew ALL the previous results. what more fucking motivation do you need? against lesser opposition, home match, already know results, and want to get your first win?

fucking ridiculous. cant even begin to describe. all the managers out there, and Roma picks Enrique. fucking Ancelotti would be destroying things right now.

[TechGuyatNY]

worst match we ever played, even worse than cagliari

too much space between defense and midfield. we're lucky siena doesn't have a true attacking midfielder otherwise we would've suffered more

siena fully deserved the point today, if not more. they looked more threatening in front of goal, and could've gotten at least 2 more if it were not for kjaer

we're passing the ball too much around the back. and neither pjanic/pizarro are suited for the center midfield role. pjanic's an attacking midfielder who plays off a striker, and pizarro's a deep lying midfielder

LE's tactics aren't working. his selection of players may be passable, but his tactics certainly not

credit to our captain for being the hardest worker on the pitch

[phat]

credit to our captain for being the hardest worker on the pitch

Wow... I absolutely did not see it that way. Looked like he was strolling around for 90min.

Siena out worked Roma severely. Part of the reason they should have won.

[Whoah10115]

You guys are going way overboard.



Osvaldo scored and Borriello was the one who set him up. Doesn't mean that's a suitable combination, much less with 3.




And with every game it's more and more obvious how much Luis Enrique loves Perrotta. That's cool, just don't play him at RB. And give Heinze some run. That's not to say Burdisso hasn't been good.



With all that said you guys are playing very well. Your defense has looked very good, even without your best defender. And BTW, I never thought too much of Kjaer before, but God this guy is good.



I would just encourage Luis Enrique, even if he wants to play Perrotta at RB some games, to not play him at RB regularly and don't give up on Rosi. And I would go out of my way to tell him not to play Osvaldo and Borriello together, and play Bojan and Borini outside of Totti.


Then you won't have target men compensating for how static they are, and Totti will get on the score-sheet.

[talk2smc]

Wow... I absolutely did not see it that way. Looked like he was strolling around for 90min.

Siena out worked Roma severely. Part of the reason they should have won.

u need to watch again and not look for reasons to dig Totti. watch who was back making tackles on the touchline, heading balls out from corners, splitting the midfield with pinpoint switch passes, and dropping back over the halfway line to collect the ball.

[TechGuyatNY]

Wow... I absolutely did not see it that way. Looked like he was strolling around for 90min.

Siena out worked Roma severely. Part of the reason they should have won.

did you not see how many interceptions he made within our own penalty box? or how he kept trying to win the ball even when he fell to the ground? out of the 22 players on the pitch, totti was the hardest worker, even more so than de rossi i dare say

there were points in the game where totti actually was in our own half performing tackles to stop siena counter attacks. he even started a counter attack of his own by winning a tackle right outside our penalty box

[talk2smc]

beginning the game in the relegation zone. thatll be sure to up the boys confidence.

fucking Enrique, jesus christ.

[TechGuyatNY]

XI's are out

Mirante
Zaccardo Paletta Lucarelli Gobbi
Biabiany Marrone Galloppa Modesto
Giovinco
Floccari
subs: Pavarini Rubin Feltscher Blasi Eduardo Jadid Crespo

Lobont
Rosi Burdisso Heinze Angel
Perrotta DeRossi Pjanic
Borini Totti Osvaldo
subs: Curci Kjaer Cassetti Simplicio Taddei Bojan Borriello

Gago/Juan/Erik injured. Cicinho not chosen just cuz

Giovinco's gonna rape is if we don't fix our gap between defense and midfield. also shame kjaer got left out. i think he played well

[talk2smc]

Perrotta back in midfield, and front 3 shifted again.
fully agreed on Giovinco. I except him to have a hell of an evening given our defense.

if i were LE, well...ok, anyone who might have a clue about football, id use De Rossi to man mark Giovinco, Heinze and Burdisso should be physical enough with Floccari, and then pray we find a way to score a goal.

[talk2smc]

i dont even blame the players. its clear they are carrying out idiot instructions to hold the ball and stand still. there is NO movement forward at all, at any time.
the fullbacks literally take possession, and hand it off back to De Rossi and the CB's.

LE is clueless.

Osvaldo playing better, and De Rossi on another level. other than that..nothing. except the danger of Gio and Biabany's pace.
what fucking teams will be threatened by us when ALL we do is pass between back 4, and LE thinks this is football.


again, clueless. subs in Burdisso after taking off Kjaer at HT, ie. shows NO faith in Kjaer simply bc hes on a yellow, and shows Burdisso you thought Kjaer was the better man for the job. fucking hell.




3 points thank god. panic stations in the end. we are so awful in defense. Parma had, what 3-4 chances in the last ten minutes to equalize just like Cagliari and Siena did. quite lucky, but damn glad to get our first win

Osvaldo much better centrally, and Totti is dropping sooooo far deep. all the Romans immense today, De Rossi, Rosi, and Totti

[TechGuyatNY]

1st win! kjaer needs to work on his jumping

world class cross by rosi. osvaldo suddenly looking "above average"

derossi, pjanic, and totti bossed the midfield today

angel, who's usually our best player, got pretty shackled by biabiany today

heinze played well

and us roma fans need to all start chipping in to fund lobont's new keeper gloves

[talk2smc]

tmw the birthday of the legend, the icon, the reason i have been a fan since 92, the greatest player to ever wear our colors and still doing it at 35.

i can only thank him for what hes given and always remember the great times i got to see him play in person.

[TechGuyatNY]

Lobont
Burdisso DeRossi Heinze
Rosi Simplicio Pjanic Angel
Bojan Totti Ozzy

subs: Curci Kjaer Cicinho Taddei Pizarro Borini Borriello

Brighi starting for Atalanta but so far has been invisible. what a beautiful goal by Bojan though. had Mirko written all over it. good finishing, good composure, good first touch. great assist by DDR as well

[TechGuyatNY]

2-0!!!!! welcome back roma!

osvaldo did the batigol celebration in front of the fans. class :cool:

now can we see the montella celebration from bojan please?

[TechGuyatNY]

LOL totti almost scored from a corner!! lol

consigli had to run back to clear it off the line

[jorquera]

Great first half!

[Nakata]

Great first half!

Great win! Time to bring on Lazio!

[talk2smc]

much more pleased with LE this week as the decisions were correct, and it seems the players are starting to come to grips with bits of the style. very weak on the counter, and still conceding, but this was a great confidence booster for a team who has had trouble scoring goals lately.

super happy to get the win, and hopefully we can destroy Lazio in two weeks.

[talk2smc]

hoping for no injuries on internationals...

and tho i felt he hasnt blasted off, and to be honest not really put in as much as i expected until maybe the last 2 games, congrats to Osvaldo on his first senior call up to the NT. (albeit due to injuries)

Derby..........comingggggggggggggg

[TechGuyatNY]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11102011/2/injured-totti-miss-sunday-rome-derby.html

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-a/2011/10/11/2706972/roma-confirm-francesco-totti-will-miss-derby-against-lazio

nooooooooooooooooo....

[talk2smc]

yea seems Totti will miss out, the body is shutting down, no way he can play 35+ matches a season anymore.

i hope he comes back for the 'home' affair in the spring and hits a brace like the last one.

and ill be honest im judging LE alot on this match. we are veenly matched with Lazio, they will miss Klose, us Totti, the first Derby, alot of new faces to it, i expect to win it as always, and full blooded effort. none of this pass the ball around the back 4 shit.

i miss Ranieri in these moments ill be honest.

[TechGuyatNY]

yea seems Totti will miss out, the body is shutting down, no way he can play 35+ matches a season anymore.

i hope he comes back for the 'home' affair in the spring and hits a brace like the last one.

and ill be honest im judging LE alot on this match. we are veenly matched with Lazio, they will miss Klose, us Totti, the first Derby, alot of new faces to it, i expect to win it as always, and full blooded effort. none of this pass the ball around the back 4 shit.

i miss Ranieri in these moments ill be honest.

as for derbies, i miss montella (as a player) :D

[Nakata]

as for derbies, i miss montella (as a player) :D

For the derby I miss Montella, Delvecchio, and Batigol. :D

[talk2smc]

Derby della Capitaleeeeeeee

without out hero tho...but i am hopeful, would love nothing more than a victory however it comes. need to get my ass home before the game startsssss!

[DanneS]

Roma better win tonight becaue my bet says so. More money for me means I could go visiting Roma again soon (or Barcelona).

[TechGuyatNY]

Derby della Capitaleeeeeeee

without out hero tho...but i am hopeful, would love nothing more than a victory however it comes. need to get my ass home before the game startsssss!

where are you right now?

[TechGuyatNY]

lineups:

Stekelenburg
Rosi Kjaer Heinze Angel
Gago DDR Perrotta
Bojan Pjanic Osvaldo
bench: Curci Burdisso Cicinho Simplicio Lamela Borini Borriello

Lazio
oh i really dont
give a shit who
they play

http://www.striscionistadio.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/striscione-roma-no-totti-no-party.jpg

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http://5a.img.v4.skyrock.net/5ac/lamiss1189/pics/255542852_small.jpg

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[TechGuyatNY]

OSVALDOOOOOOOOOOOO

pjanic! that fucking pass was beautiful. picked out 3 of our players

[talk2smc]

made it back in time for the game just to be crushed.

Derby feeling doesnt go away for a while, and Lazio winning in the way they did is abolsutely crushing. it would have been like a win to us if we held on.

Tagliavento was fucking questionable all night and should never be given these types of matches.


either way, when i try to be reasonable, Lazio hit the bar twice after Kjaer was an idiot, so probably would have been fortunate for us if we made out with a draw.


Osvaldo's message made me smile, but really...youre not Totti. Totti always did it and made sure we won.

LE, work to do. heres a hint- in Italy, when the team goes down a man, managers typically dont play with fowards still. had we put Pizarro in a bit earlier and shut up shop i think we would have left with a draw. but the manager wont change his philosophy.

[TechGuyatNY]

i'm a bit calmer now. i stopped throwing things, and choking.... things

the bad guys finally get their first derby win in 3 years and 5 matches, and it took them a roma red card, roma injury, and a lazio penalty. it was a lucky win, nothing more than that

naturally i'm angered we lost, especially when it came so late in the game. we squandered a couple of good chances in the 1st half which came back to haunt us. we should've been 2-0 up at HT but that's our fault, not the ref or Lazio

50min was definitely the turning point. all kjaer did was tap Brocchi on the shoulder and his knees buckled like the williamsburg bridge during rush hour. i never liked tagliavento. the man seems to flip coins in his head every time he has to make a decision

we cant win every derby, and lazio will have this one hanging over us, at least until we win the next one when totti's back. But it's not as bad as it sounds because they only won due to the (1) 1st half injury (2) red card (3) PK (4) no totti. looking forward to the next derby where we'll skin them silly

i’m already putting the loss behind us. our team played well considering the unfortunate circumstances. there were a lot of positives to take from this game, more positives than negatives IMO. we've shown better signs of improvement and chemistry each game we play together. pjanic, bojan, angel, osvaldo all seem to be combining well. apart from that bad referee call, kjaer would’ve been MOTM. those 2 acrobatic tackles he made earlier were almost mexes-esque. i don’t blame him for the “challenge” because who the hell expects a red card for tapping someone on the shoulder. but whatever, I’m going to stop talking about enrique, brocchi, and tagliavento for the sake of my blood pressure

looking forward to the next derby where we'll get our revenge

[deviant]

The game worth watching?

[jorquera]

The game worth watching?

Sure, interesting match. Second half more exciting probably.

[talk2smc]

LAMELA!!!!!! on his debut! that fucking left foot is so sweet!

and the celebration up to Totti, loving it! well in Erik!

[TechGuyatNY]

i was so hungover i slept in... intentionally

saw the scoreline, the score, i'll watch the full game later.

[talk2smc]

was pleased with the win, pleased with the clean sheet, its clear we have a major problem with the last 20 mins or so, we looked likely to concede then at any moment.

i still feel LE needs to find a balance between when we need to press forward, or set up defensively. its not always prudent to rush forward when we're being overrun in midfield, only up a goal, and they are pressing with a front 4. shades of Siena and Lazio came over me all at once.


midweek round upcoming, Genoa away before a big test v Milan in Rome.

[talk2smc]

should i even quote myself?

last 20? shades of Siena and Lazio?

cant wait for more excuses about sticking to the philosophy. can someone fucking end conceding late goals?
its not hard unless youre a foreign manager stuck in your ways that lead to incredible amounts of dropped points.

[TechGuyatNY]

too much rotation, no team chemistry, and entire team looks nervous. and heinze is a fucktard

LE out by december

nothing's changed or improved, we're still at square A

[talk2smc]

i wont be harsh and say he needs to be out.

but its also useless anyway as we are stuck with him for good anyway.

rotation just for the sake of rotating. Well done Benitez. absolutely childish defending on counters and late on. unlucky today, but still terrible.

for all the possession, we have 11 points. and a shit ton of goals conceded last 15 minutes.

it doesnt take a fucking genius to figure out what the hell to do.

[grazie roma]

I am a long-time Maxxed participant mostly for games and shows. And I enjoy receiving the Roma threads in my email. I've not yet posted comments but the calls for the sacking of Enrique have pushed me over the edge.

Tranquille ragazzi!!

You can't be serious in calling for LE's head after fewer than 10 matches can you? After all, he is only looking to revolutionize Roma's entire DNA. Granted Spalletti had Roma playing some very innovative and attractive football but Enrique is far more ambitious. And the transformation will not happen in a few games. The task is not made any easier by the fact that Totti will no longer be the centre of everything.

Besides the American owner is not going to budge on this one, nor will Baldini. And I, for one, am grateful and very much look forward to seeing this thing develop. If it works, it will be the greatest thing we have ever seen from our beloved Roma.

[talk2smc]

I am a long-time Maxxed participant mostly for games and shows. And I enjoy receiving the Roma threads in my email. I've not yet posted comments but the calls for the sacking of Enrique have pushed me over the edge.

Tranquille ragazzi!!

You can't be serious in calling for LE's head after fewer than 10 matches can you? After all, he is only looking to revolutionize Roma's entire DNA. Granted Spalletti had Roma playing some very innovative and attractive football but Enrique is far more ambitious. And the transformation will not happen in a few games. The task is not made any easier by the fact that Totti will no longer be the centre of everything.

Besides the American owner is not going to budge on this one, nor will Baldini. And I, for one, am grateful and very much look forward to seeing this thing develop. If it works, it will be the greatest thing we have ever seen from our beloved Roma.

agreed. i feel its too harsh..

what i do think is most frustrating is his stubborness to the system. we could have had 3 points at Siena, Lazio, and now 1 at Genoa had we defending properly after scoring instead of pushing ahead.

(though in Genoas case it was the worst luck possible with Kucka's shot off his knee)

the squad rotation also bothers me

[TechGuyatNY]

I am a long-time Maxxed participant mostly for games and shows. And I enjoy receiving the Roma threads in my email. I've not yet posted comments but the calls for the sacking of Enrique have pushed me over the edge.

Tranquille ragazzi!!

You can't be serious in calling for LE's head after fewer than 10 matches can you? After all, he is only looking to revolutionize Roma's entire DNA. Granted Spalletti had Roma playing some very innovative and attractive football but Enrique is far more ambitious. And the transformation will not happen in a few games. The task is not made any easier by the fact that Totti will no longer be the centre of everything.

Besides the American owner is not going to budge on this one, nor will Baldini. And I, for one, am grateful and very much look forward to seeing this thing develop. If it works, it will be the greatest thing we have ever seen from our beloved Roma.

welcome to the thread!

i wasn't that serious about him being sacked. if he were sacked tomorrow i'd be very disappointed. however, if this trend continues and we don't see any improvement by the winter transfer window, i would not be surprised or disappointed to see him fired. like t2m already mentioned, he's too stubborn with his ways, and the rotation and lack of consistency is kind of annoying. simplicio scores and doesn't start the next game, borriello assists and doesn't start the next game, cassetti plays well and doesn't start the next game, etc.

LE is from the start, an experiment, and experiments don't always work. he is after all, just human

keep posting here!

[talk2smc]

possession, one touch passing, yea yea yea. for what? mild praise in the giornali and no fucking result. great for the neutral. fucking awful for the fans.

3 free headers. tired and slow. fucking ridiculous. Di Benedetto get a clue, and put some pressure on LE.

1. LE never used the same squad yet in Serie A or Europa.
2. fitness levels complete shit, we drop the last 15 mins of every game. might as well not even play.
3. physically very weak. Ibra, Nesta, Silva, sooo much stronger than anyone in red.

results LE! jesus christ. POINTS DO MATTER IN A FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

[Phenom]

scott whats the situation with romas owners? have they got serious money to invest in this team?

[talk2smc]

scott whats the situation with romas owners? have they got serious money to invest in this team?

theyve got enough.

Pjanic, Osvaldo and Lamela- very pricey, Kjaer, Angel, Heinze, Bojan, Stek, Gago, all coming in on either buys, or at least paying much higher wages than we are used to.

but then in classic inconsistent Roma form, we are heckling over wages to extend De Rossi's contract.

Di Benedetto seems to have the funds to at least compete, even LE is on a ridiculous salary for a 0 experience manager, which shows pretty much everytime we step out to play.

i cant think of a coach beyond Mancini, SAF, and Pep who have a stronger vote of confidence from owners than LE does. the only difference is they win. we sure as hell dont.

[Phenom]

theyve got enough.

Pjanic, Osvaldo and Lamela- very pricey, Kjaer, Angel, Heinze, Bojan, Stek, Gago, all coming in on either buys, or at least paying much higher wages than we are used to.

but then in classic inconsistent Roma form, we are heckling over wages to extend De Rossi's contract.

Di Benedetto seems to have the funds to at least compete, even LE is on a ridiculous salary for a 0 experience manager, which shows pretty much everytime we step out to play.

i cant think of a coach beyond Mancini, SAF, and Pep who have a stronger vote of confidence from owners than LE does. the only difference is they win. we
sure as hell dont.

you forgot mourinho lol....getting rid of valdano was a huge vote of confidence from perez;)

anyway id like to see roma back to where they were;)

[talk2smc]

you forgot mourinho lol....getting rid of valdano was a huge vote of confidence from perez;)

anyway id like to see roma back to where they were;)

where we were was still only ever 2nd place lately. tho i do think the priority now needs to still be European football. a miracle for CL football.

[talk2smc]

depressing to look at the table.

[phat]

Still a lot of games left in the season.

[talk2smc]

Still a lot of games left in the season.

yea, its more the transition i guess. its clear for anyone to see. im not saying LE wont work, or eventually the players will come to. im just saying that if its me managing...and i see us with leads, or certain styles of play being effective for a time, and then all of a sudden opponents getting 10-14 shots on target, im gonna change how my players approach the match.

and so far, in my book LE hasnt shown that one bit. the excuse of - well thats how i play football- is only gonna last so long if you ask me.

also miss Mirko. but thats another story.

[TechGuyatNY]

i miss philou =[

[phat]

yea, its more the transition i guess. its clear for anyone to see. im not saying LE wont work, or eventually the players will come to. im just saying that if its me managing...and i see us with leads, or certain styles of play being effective for a time, and then all of a sudden opponents getting 10-14 shots on target, im gonna change how my players approach the match.

and so far, in my book LE hasnt shown that one bit. the excuse of - well thats how i play football- is only gonna last so long if you ask me.

also miss Mirko. but thats another story.

Lots of new players, new coach... they do need some time.

I think an attitude change on the pitch is needed the most.

[talk2smc]

i can honestly say, even when we were 3rd from bottom right before Spalletti left, that Ive never seen a Roma play this poor in a season.

Taddei and Cassetti doing nothing but proving they are passed it.

and ridiculous Enrique changing 2 of the back 4 AGAIN, and moving our best player in De Rossi to the right to accommodate Gago in the center.


second half muuuuch better than the first. Osvaldo continues to be a nuisance and getting better clinically. and Bojan! Start him LE!

i did feel we were lucky, thought Lamela i think it was fouled a Novara player before the deflected shot to Bojan, and i thought they deserved more than a 2-0 scoreline, but damn we needed the win

[TechGuyatNY]

i didn't see the match today. how was it?

i was playing footie in the park. i normally wouldn't miss roma matches but i didn't get to play last week due to the snow so i feel like i had to make it up this week

[talk2smc]

i didn't see the match today. how was it?

i was playing footie in the park. i normally wouldn't miss roma matches but i didn't get to play last week due to the snow so i feel like i had to make it up this week

Much the same. I agree w Tesser's assess,met actually which he said Novara paid for our talents not necessarily our team play. First half was awful. Tassel at LB has to be the worst idea.
We didn't play well, didn't threaten and they did often. In the second half we were more clinical, Bojan and Osvaldo were clinical but we still risked much at the back and we could have easily conceded one or two if Meggorini was more clinical. Stekelenburg had a massive save

LE said post match we need more consistency which made me laugh as we had 2 of 4 changed in the back 4 and Greco on the left, De Rossi was pushed right to make Gago play on the center and tho it worked out I think it was an awful idea that better teams will exploit.

[talk2smc]

apprently have signed Nicolas Lopez, 18, of Uruguay's Nacional.

couldnt tell you a thing about him. other than he keeps in line with Sabatini's youth policy thus far

[adder]

where i can found full match about coppa italia final 2006/2007 and 2007/2008??

anyone help me ... other this forum maybe... or links


thanks

[Whoah10115]

I've heard that Juan could be on his way out in January...Luis Enrique, for some dumb decisions, is doing a great job with the squad as a whole. But shocking if he's willing to be that stupid. Juan is the best CB on any team he plays for. Sad to think that a player that perfect and so perfect for what Luis Enrique wants could be on his way out. Would also be pathetic.

[talk2smc]

A. he hasnt done a great job with the squad as a whole thus far.

B. it wouldnt be the worst decision, given that we would get something for him, as opposed to the Mexes, and possibly De Rossi debacles.

He and Sabatini have already said there will be MORE players to come in and add even MORE rotation to a squad that LE cant hold down already.

should be a ton of fun.

[Whoah10115]

A. he hasnt done a great job with the squad as a whole thus far.

B. it wouldnt be the worst decision, given that we would get something for him, as opposed to the Mexes, and possibly De Rossi debacles.

He and Sabatini have already said there will be MORE players to come in and add even MORE rotation to a squad that LE cant hold down already.

should be a ton of fun.



The team is playing well. I think you're just too invested in the team to be objective. They're playing well with a true philosophy being implemented and a lot of turnover, after a bad season. He's a brand new coach.



And the right decision would be to extend him. Nesta is the only defender in Serie A better than him.

[deviant]

The team is playing well. I think you're just too invested in the team to be objective. They're playing well with a true philosophy being implemented and a lot of turnover, after a bad season. He's a brand new coach.



And the right decision would be to extend him. Nesta is the only defender in Serie A better than him.

Chiellini
Thiago Silva
Campagnaro
Domizzi

all better than Juan

[Whoah10115]

Chiellini
Thiago Silva
Campagnaro
Domizzi

all better than Juan



None better.


Edit: Chiellini is a great player, tho he gets away with a lot. Thiago Silva is a bit overrated and is saved a lot by playing with Nesta. Domizzi is very good and Campagnaro better (at least this season, he's been fantastic), but those two as good as Juan? No, much lesser. Brasil's best CB, on the trot, every year since 2005.

[deviant]

None better.


Edit: Chiellini is a great player, tho he gets away with a lot. Thiago Silva is a bit overrated and is saved a lot by playing with Nesta. Domizzi is very good and Campagnaro better (at least this season, he's been fantastic), but those two as good as Juan? No, much lesser. Brasil's best CB, on the trot, every year since 2005.

All are better prove me otherwise. Domizzi or (Udinese) has let in a total of 4 goals ALL season in large part due to Domizzi. Chiellini is having the best year of his career, theres a reason why top clubs (Real, Barca, ManUtd, Arsenal) are interested in him.

[talk2smc]

at least 10 CBs better than Juan right now. LE has shown a penchant for ignoring some of past performers in Borriello, Perrotta, Pizarro to an extent. Juan knows the writing is on the wall.

he has lost pace and also injury prone lately, its best to avoid another Mexes error. he will know that as well.

sigh. another effect of LE's decisions. im sure had Juan been fit/selected for some of the earlier games we may not have conceded in the last 10 minutes in basically all of our matches thus far.

bc of the 'philosophy'

[Whoah10115]

All are better prove me otherwise. Domizzi or (Udinese) has let in a total of 4 goals ALL season in large part due to Domizzi. Chiellini is having the best year of his career, theres a reason why top clubs (Real, Barca, ManUtd, Arsenal) are interested in him.



That's on form. That's different from what I'm saying.



at least 10 CBs better than Juan right now. LE has shown a penchant for ignoring some of past performers in Borriello, Perrotta, Pizarro to an extent. Juan knows the writing is on the wall.

he has lost pace and also injury prone lately, its best to avoid another Mexes error. he will know that as well.

sigh. another effect of LE's decisions. im sure had Juan been fit/selected for some of the earlier games we may not have conceded in the last 10 minutes in basically all of our matches thus far.

bc of the 'philosophy'




Injury prone yes. Pace is only the current form, due to injuries and lack of playing time to get back to match fitness.



Look, Luis Enrique has gotten plenty wrong, but it's not as tho you're team is playing badly or out of it...it isn't as tho you were doing well and he interrupted that. I remember saying back in 08 that this team was gonna get in some trouble. Had a good run at the end of the 09/10 season and should have won, after Inter all but gave it away. But for the most part the team hasn't been anywhere great. The philosophy isn't just about the passing element. Roma is as dependable as a woman. You have to start somewhere.

[talk2smc]

some of the worst dependable people in my life are women. but thats not the point.

and i certainly see him as interrupting alot of the grit in defense (not in the end tho) that Ranieri has established, some of the calmness that Montella brought, and certainly the winning Spalletti always assured.

i understand its transition. but the lack of his flexibility is what gets to me most right now.

he basically has said, its ok for us to drop points late in matches (see Siena, at home, Lazio, and Genoa) because we 'maintained the philosophy' of passing and possession.

i guess that works in Spain.

[Whoah10115]

some of the worst dependable people in my life are women. but thats not the point.

and i certainly see him as interrupting alot of the grit in defense (not in the end tho) that Ranieri has established, some of the calmness that Montella brought, and certainly the winning Spalletti always assured.

i understand its transition. but the lack of his flexibility is what gets to me most right now.

he basically has said, its ok for us to drop points late in matches (see Siena, at home, Lazio, and Genoa) because we 'maintained the philosophy' of passing and possession.

i guess that works in Spain.



The worst? Cuz if so that's what I'm saying :p



The team either loses focus or the levy finally breaks towards the end. Kjaer brings grit. So does Heinze. And one of the things I don't like about Enrique is he clearly has a preferences and in this case Heinze isn't one of them. Has been great when called upon, but with Kjaer and Juan both missing he starts Cassetti over him at CB? To play Taddei at RB? That's just inexcusable.



There is a bigger picture tho. Luis Enrique is definitely a bit arrogant and not always in a good way, but it is going somewhere. And player for player, you guys have enough to win the league. Probably difficult now but the CL is mandatory.

[phat]

Roma doesn't press enough when not in possession, don't defend enough as a unit and don't run enough.

Juan needs to get sold, he's simply not doing well for them.

[Whoah10115]

He can be sold. I'd kinda rather he'd be sold. He's too good to always be unappreciated. But this season, how many games has he played? And he was awesome against Milan.

[talk2smc]

The worst? Cuz if so that's what I'm saying :p



The team either loses focus or the levy finally breaks towards the end. Kjaer brings grit. So does Heinze. And one of the things I don't like about Enrique is he clearly has a preferences and in this case Heinze isn't one of them. Has been great when called upon, but with Kjaer and Juan both missing he starts Cassetti over him at CB? To play Taddei at RB? That's just inexcusable.



There is a bigger picture tho. Luis Enrique is definitely a bit arrogant and not always in a good way, but it is going somewhere. And player for player, you guys have enough to win the league. Probably difficult now but the CL is mandatory.


haha, i meant the most :p typing too fast :P


as for LE, i guess its a project. Phat is right...we hold the ball and dont do a damn thing with it, and when we lose the ball we often wait for a mistake to get it back.

[Whoah10115]

haha, i meant the most :p typing too fast :P


as for LE, i guess its a project. Phat is right...we hold the ball and dont do a damn thing with it, and when we lose the ball we often wait for a mistake to get it back.



The forward line has to be worked out. If you play with 3, Osvaldo in the middle. If you play with 2 then you need someone directly off Osvaldo. I think Lamela needs to play, and he would do well as one of the 3, much like Ronaldinho at Barcelona. Osvaldo is great at running the channels and holding up the ball, allowing someone like Bojan to run in on the angle.


Of course there's that Totti fella...and he's been amazing this season. Would be interesting to see him play off of Osvaldo, with Pjanic and Lamela as AM's, right and left (Pjanic more central tho).

[talk2smc]

Well that answers an questions about Juan. Burdisso tore ligaments in Argentinas game last night. Out 6 months.

Yay for a terrible defense losing it's best defender lately.

[TechGuyatNY]

kjaer's still injured too i think =[

[grazie roma]

Yes, it does look like Juan will stay after all. Good news, I think, even if he is injury prone. I have always been a big fan.
Huge game this weekend. Expect lots of goals!

[deviant]

I always forget to ask how is Gago doing ?

[Arg10]

Burdisso's out... that's not good for you guys at all. And I know it must be even worse considering he got injured with Argentina (and not Roma).

I always forget to ask how is Gago doing ?

I haven't watched him with Roma, but I can tell you he was pretty good against Bolivia for Argentina.

[talk2smc]

Nico being out is horrible news and for me, probably adds a goal conceded every other game in an already terrible defense.

as for Gago..eh. ok one very good game our last one out, but LE pushes De Rossi out to RMF when Gago plays centrally and that limits De Rossi's output sgnificantly.

not a fan of that.

[Whoah10115]

I'm no bottom line thinker but he's played the most and maybe there's no wonder the defense hasn't been very good?



Maybe he's a huge idiot and the least impressive of the 4 main CB's.

[talk2smc]

Nico? no. watch the games. check the last 10 minutes of each. Kjaer, Angel, Taddei, Perrota, Cassetti, Heinze all clueless at times. only Nico out thee organizing the lines, and protecting a keeper who still cant speak a word of Italian or Eng to communicate with his defense.

[Whoah10115]

Nico? no. watch the games. check the last 10 minutes of each. Kjaer, Angel, Taddei, Perrota, Cassetti, Heinze all clueless at times. only Nico out thee organizing the lines, and protecting a keeper who still cant speak a word of Italian or Eng to communicate with his defense.


At the end of games, when guys who have never played in defense, aren't CB's, or are new to the team. But throughout the rest of the game he's been the least impressive.


His designated position should be as a RCB, who can play CB or RB. Because the closer to his box he gets the dumber his challenges and the looser his marking. He's commanding other players but he's still reckless.


I looked at his injury earlier today. Did you see it? Him being an idiot with a stupidly dirty tackle, right in front of the ref. The more instant the ramifications the dumber his decision making. Obviously, him and Juan are the only CB's on the team who aren't new, and his injury is not good for Roma. But it's hardly that big a loss.

[thisisoverlord!]

Amazing play today, shame about the result, shouldam coulda won it by four or five goals.

Bojan needs to get his accuracy up.

Lemela was simply amazing his ball skills are almost messi-esque.

Osvaldos' wrongly disallowed goal was amazing. Fucking bent linesman.

[talk2smc]

Apart from the veeery wasteful finishing...it's the best I've think we've played all year to date.

Pjanic was a beast, and this after an international week where he played a daunting play off match. Congrats to him and Gago for getting their first goals..

I feel horrible for Osvaldo who was robbed of one of the best goals he will ever score from clearly being on sides. Bojan was very influential but for. Striker that was awful finishing.

And Totti back! Great news for difficult games ahead. Only 5 pts off the pace even with games in hand for the leaders.. Very pleased w today tho

[TechGuyatNY]

Nico being out is horrible news and for me, probably adds a goal conceded every other game in an already terrible defense.

as for Gago..eh. ok one very good game our last one out, but LE pushes De Rossi out to RMF when Gago plays centrally and that limits De Rossi's output sgnificantly.

not a fan of that.

but derossi gets to play central midfield instead of sweeper, where his work rate and influence will be more put to good use

i'd prefer de rossi higher up the pitch, even if it means he has to play slightly off center

[TechGuyatNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0lyKB5xU98

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0lyKB5xU98

[talk2smc]

but derossi gets to play central midfield instead of sweeper, where his work rate and influence will be more put to good use

i'd prefer de rossi higher up the pitch, even if it means he has to play slightly off center

:confused: but Gago is central. De Rossi is playing out on the right, tho today he was floating basically all over the picture.

Either way as much as I want de Rossi in front of the back 4 it's working now

[talk2smc]

seems we are due to sign Savic from Man City on loan in January to help fill in for Nico.

no Vucinic, but the Montenegrin has been solid in a few appearances ive seen from him. apparently with an option to buy.

De Rossi's contract still not progressing...i havent been this nervous since Mexes.

[talk2smc]

Terrible. Waiting for any possible bit of consistency. Di natale crushes us again.

the huuuuuge problem i have with LE is he says shit like that post game- that "its only a defeat".

well fuck me. sorry theres some of us who give a shit when we lose.

[deviant]

Spanish media is saying Nilmar's (Villarreal) Agent is in talks with Roma..........

[talk2smc]

Spanish media is saying Nilmar's (Villarreal) Agent is in talks with Roma..........

he was in the summer, and for ridiculous overpriced sums. still dont understand that one but Roma in the transfer market is always ridiculous.

[Arg10]

So Osvaldo punched Lamela and the club has now suspended him. Any news on what exactly happened?

[talk2smc]

So Osvaldo punched Lamela and the club has now suspended him. Any news on what exactly happened?

Always in fighting at Roma. Mancini Totti, Totti De Rossi, Mexes chive if I remember, clealy Osvaldo and Lamela getting into it.

Neither had a good game at all.. Some words apparently exchanged post match.

Not good if u ask me. I do like LE forcing a suspension, and clearly citing blame with Pablo. But this childish bullshit is ridiculous. None of the teams that consistently win act how we do. Another reason we don't consistently win.

[talk2smc]

Osvaldo banned for Fiorentina, fined the maximum amount, and will probably not be selected for Italy in February as in accordance with Prandelli's ethics code.

clearly LE and others placing the blame on Pablo, and right when I was starting to put in a bit more faith in him due to his performances he pulls me right back to the weariness I had about him before signing.

in other equally bad news, Mancini was convicted and sentenced to jail today in Brazil for being found guilty of rape in 2010. After a party thrown by Ronaldinho, he raped a woman, and now will serve his time.

I never has a huge fan, as I felt his work ethic was shit, and to unfortunately stereotype him as typically Brazilian footballer, he thought he was above alot of players on the team and didnt have to work. I will always remember the Derby flick and Lyon's stepovers in the CL, but I cant be proud to have had him on the team after this news as well.

[talk2smc]

fucked by the referee Damato again.
PK sure. how on earth is that a red card. Jovetic pulls Juan down. jesus christ.

for all the possession we held, never troubled Boruc. Fiorentina have been so terrible lately, and yet we pass around the back 4 as usual.

awful. LE, awful. Damato, awful. watch the players after Gamberini's goal. clearly dont care. Juve and Napoli next, so theres another 6 lost. by December, most likely in the 14th/15th place mark if we are lucky given the teams around us.

[TechGuyatNY]

this is fucking tragic thats all i have to say

[TechGuyatNY]

god loves me. my stream just crapped out. i think he's trying to tell me something

[talk2smc]

I would empty my bank acct to bring Spalletti or Ranieri back.

I'm sure in his words, it's "just another defeat"

Embarrassed to support this team. 3 red cards.

[TechGuyatNY]

why is bojan saving a shot that is off target anyway

definitely not buying him. send him back to fucking barca in december

[talk2smc]

I might go as far as saying this game decided whther De Rossi extends with us or not.

The new Roma? Fucking embarrassing.

With money and this squad and no Euro commitment. And Ancelotti right there and fans have to put up with these fucking displays.

first time ive heard chants for LE to resign, and he admitted post match he would if he felt the players didnt follow him anymore.

Juve on Monday, Napoli away and Bologna before the break. based on what ive seen all year, thats 3 lucky points away to Bologna and LE should be sacked. Carlo in, and hope to save something of this fucking 'project' that all I see is losing.

[TechGuyatNY]

I might go as far as saying this game decided whther De Rossi extends with us or not.

The new Roma? Fucking embarrassing.

With money and this squad and no Euro commitment. And Ancelotti right there and fans have to put up with these fucking displays.

first time ive heard chants for LE to resign, and he admitted post match he would if he felt the players didnt follow him anymore.

Juve on Monday, Napoli away and Bologna before the break. based on what ive seen all year, thats 3 lucky points away to Bologna and LE should be sacked. Carlo in, and hope to save something of this fucking 'project' that all I see is losing.

i'd rather have spalletti than ancelotti. ancelotti will bring in players like drogba, alex, and anelka which leaves no room for our youth. also, ddr loves spaletti. if we manage to get spaletti, hopefully ddr will be more inclined to extend. ancelotti will probably bring the best out of our veteran players, but players like taddei/perrotta/cassetti are only going to last 2 or so more seasons

spalletti's contract with zenit ends this winter i think

[grazie roma]

@talk and @tech,

i could not disagree more with your sentiments. bring back ranieri? great guy but hardly a step forward. ancelotti? i think he's great but not the man for this moment. as for spalletti, what romanista doesn't have fond memories of his time with roma and the beautiful football played...

but wake up. luis enrique is undertaking a radical and far-reaching overhaul. they are seeking to remake the team DNA. and they are weaning the team off of totti, which in my opinion is absolutely necessary, albeit sad.

furthermore, the new american owner and baldini have firmly backed enrique with no sign of that support fading.

so get over it. roma will not make the CL this year, nor should we necessarily expect them to do so. if we make it to the Europa League, that will mark a major success. let's see how things are going come april. until then, basta!

[Whoah10115]

Juve on Monday, Napoli away and Bologna before the break. based on what ive seen all year, thats 3 lucky points away to Bologna and LE should be sacked. Carlo in, and hope to save something of this fucking 'project' that all I see is losing.




You always say it's sad that in Italy managers are given no time. You're sounding like that chorus.


LE could do a lot better, and I have said many times I didn't get how he was such a shoe-in for this job, as he's never played in Italy and had yet to coach a professional club. A lot of what he says is just pretentious but a project is a project and Roma are hardly perennial winners who should ever be demanding about immediate results.



You guys have won Serie A 3 times. Even if he is pretentious in his defense of the philosophy there is clearly something good happening with the team and the truth is there has been far too much pessimism.



I don't mind the love for Ancelotti in this case, as he loves the club and wants to manage the club. But in that case, he should have been looking harder to come this past Summer, instead of wanting to stay in England. But as usual, Ancelotti wants his club to be ready set for him to manage. He's an overrated manager. You can list his titles if you want, but he hasn't done shit as a manager since 2004.

[talk2smc]

@talk and @tech,

i could not disagree more with your sentiments. bring back ranieri? great guy but hardly a step forward. ancelotti? i think he's great but not the man for this moment. as for spalletti, what romanista doesn't have fond memories of his time with roma and the beautiful football played...

but wake up. luis enrique is undertaking a radical and far-reaching overhaul. they are seeking to remake the team DNA. and they are weaning the team off of totti, which in my opinion is absolutely necessary, albeit sad.

furthermore, the new american owner and baldini have firmly backed enrique with no sign of that support fading.

so get over it. roma will not make the CL this year, nor should we necessarily expect them to do so. if we make it to the Europa League, that will mark a major success. let's see how things are going come april. until then, basta!

You always say it's sad that in Italy managers are given no time. You're sounding like that chorus.


LE could do a lot better, and I have said many times I didn't get how he was such a shoe-in for this job, as he's never played in Italy and had yet to coach a professional club. A lot of what he says is just pretentious but a project is a project and Roma are hardly perennial winners who should ever be demanding about immediate results.



You guys have won Serie A 3 times. Even if he is pretentious in his defense of the philosophy there is clearly something good happening with the team and the truth is there has been far too much pessimism.



I don't mind the love for Ancelotti in this case, as he loves the club and wants to manage the club. But in that case, he should have been looking harder to come this past Summer, instead of wanting to stay in England. But as usual, Ancelotti wants his club to be ready set for him to manage. He's an overrated manager. You can list his titles if you want, but he hasn't done shit as a manager since 2004.

thoughts-
A. In comparision to what Carlo has does, what the hell has LE done?
B. Former players for Roma and/or Romans almost always do well as managers. look at Ranieri, and even Montella who deserved more time.
C. Given no time? its december and what do we have-
Europe league exit to Bratislava in qualifying rounds
Derby loss in the last minute
Loss to Milan at home
dropped points to Siena, Genoa, Lazio, Cagliari, all in the dying minutes

we have no European commitments, like Juventus, and yet look at the differences in the table?

D. Ranieri? not a step forward? I remember 5 derbies in a row, and if not for Pazzini's goal, a possible Scudetto! Ancelotti? speaks for himself! Spalletti? a legend in Rome, proven winner outside of the country now, and did EVERYTHING LE CANT do on 5% of the budget!

E. Pressure in italy is not a bad thing. I think part of LE's problem is that he doesnt give a shit about Roma. its a job to him, but not in his DNA like it was Spalletti, Ranieri, Montella, Ancelotti.
How can you say after Udinese- its just another defeat! fuck me! sorry that I dont want Roma losing and then, its no big deal.
There were yeeeeeears that all Spalletti got was 10 mil to sign EVERY player.
Now, LE gets Kjaer, Heinze, Stek, Lamela, Osvaldo, Gago, Angel, Pjanic, Bojan, Nego, and Borini and STILL cant win.


F. Tactics. Changes the starting XI EVERY match. changes formation, but doesnt have Ranieri's ability to still win doing it. Refuses to play a fit captain. Plays our best player De Rossi OUT of position on the right, and in defense, and he STILL is world class. cant decide on a proper back 4, plays Perrotta and Taddei as FB's! and then wonders why we lose matches and concede goals. plays possession football, but possession that doesnt even move forward for long stretches, and thus isnt dangerous possession.

This is a fly off the handle type judgement. The man has been given more time than Montella now almost, and won less, and convinced even lesser.

[Whoah10115]

thoughts-
A. In comparision to what Carlo has does, what the hell has LE done?
B. Former players for Roma and/or Romans almost always do well as managers. look at Ranieri, and even Montella who deserved more time.
C. Given no time? its december and what do we have-
Europe league exit to Bratislava in qualifying rounds
Derby loss in the last minute
Loss to Milan at home
dropped points to Siena, Genoa, Lazio, Cagliari, all in the dying minutes

we have no European commitments, like Juventus, and yet look at the differences in the table?

D. Ranieri? not a step forward? I remember 5 derbies in a row, and if not for Pazzini's goal, a possible Scudetto! Ancelotti? speaks for himself! Spalletti? a legend in Rome, proven winner outside of the country now, and did EVERYTHING LE CANT do on 5% of the budget!

E. Pressure in italy is not a bad thing. I think part of LE's problem is that he doesnt give a shit about Roma. its a job to him, but not in his DNA like it was Spalletti, Ranieri, Montella, Ancelotti.
How can you say after Udinese- its just another defeat! fuck me! sorry that I dont want Roma losing and then, its no big deal.
There were yeeeeeears that all Spalletti got was 10 mil to sign EVERY player.
Now, LE gets Kjaer, Heinze, Stek, Lamela, Osvaldo, Gago, Angel, Pjanic, Bojan, Nego, and Borini and STILL cant win.


F. Tactics. Changes the starting XI EVERY match. changes formation, but doesnt have Ranieri's ability to still win doing it. Refuses to play a fit captain. Plays our best player De Rossi OUT of position on the right, and in defense, and he STILL is world class. cant decide on a proper back 4, plays Perrotta and Taddei as FB's! and then wonders why we lose matches and concede goals. plays possession football, but possession that doesnt even move forward for long stretches, and thus isnt dangerous possession.

This is a fly off the handle type judgement. The man has been given more time than Montella now almost, and won less, and convinced even lesser.




I never said he's done anything. I would have given Montella the job. I've said that. But just because it's December...Roma have traditionally played good football and were all about 1 touch passing during that great period under Spalletti, so it's somewhat overblown that he is teaching the club how to play. And a lot of it is the recent obsession with Barcelona "creating football", as some have joked.



But it is a project and with someone like Baldini involved and with the kind of involvement you have from the ownership, it seems clear that Enrique interviewed well for the job and showed he had something very clear to offer.



There are plenty of things he does that are completely stupid. Taddei as a RB, not so much. But Taddei as a LB is moronic, just as his insistence to play him and Perrotta together at FB. Heinze is on the team and has played well every time, yet when all the CB's are missing, Cassetti starts ahead of him in the center. De Rossi on the right isn't that bad, as he's on the right the way Xavi is, so it's not like he's really right-sided. But he should be in the middle. Not playing Totti can't be a real complaint, because Totti is getting back from injury and played when he was healthy.




Ancelotti won Serie A ONCE with, by far, the best team in the league. He wasn't great initially, but he got his team to the CL final in 03 (how much was him, I don't know). After that, his team won Serie A finally and then got to a CL final, where (with officiating and stupid errors) lost. And when then won it two years later? That's when the CL draw and one great player taking over comes into effect. He won at Chelsea? Big whoop. That team was ready to take one more title. He's overrated and rides teams that are already set. The only interesting thing about him is the way he used Gattuso in that diamond. There's a reason he's not coaching his beloved Roma and it's because they're in no position for him to ride.



Raineri would be the wrong choice and Spalletti doesn't coach Roma anymore. He's been coaching somewhere else. If LE doesn't improve, and Spalletti wants to come back, that's cool. But it's not like he was passed up for Enrique or even like he's not being brought because of LE.



You got a million new players. I thought it would be better this. I thought there was no team in Serie A that stood out enough and that Roma has the best squad and come somehow be the team to win it. A rush on my end, as they're not gonna get it together that quickly. But he's hardly in firing territory yet, even if he's still disappointing.

[talk2smc]

Kjaer, Burdisso out injured. Cassetti pulled up with an ankle problem in training today, who was going to play CB. Juan suspended.

that leaves 900 yr old slow ass Heinze, and probably De Rossi at CB for the league leaders, followed by the CL round of 16 Napoli away.

i think id shit if we took 1 point from both games.

[talk2smc]

http://www.football-italia.net/node/13653


unusual a Roman says his piece and goes back on it. its why i got nervous not hearing about Totti back when Real and Barca wanted him. but one he came out to say he wasnt leaving, the contract came, and the rest is he is here.

this is the perfect time for De Rossi to leave, he will get a fat lucrative long contract from Roma if he does (nothing like he would elsewhere) and teams will not want him as much by the time 3-4 years more roll around and hes in his 30s.

Roma needs to pay him, and pay him what he wants, and stfu. He may still be inclined to move to other Serie A clubs, but lets hope he truly does what he says and stays with his hometown.

i truly thought the game at Fiorentina would have made his mind up. that cockshit mess we showed when hes a WC winner and top 5 in the world at his position. he knows he is sacrificing trophies.

hero and a legend if he stays or even if he goes. hoping he follows Il Capitano, so we may finally have our Capitano Futuro.

[TechGuyatNY]

@talk and @tech,

i could not disagree more with your sentiments. bring back ranieri? great guy but hardly a step forward. ancelotti? i think he's great but not the man for this moment. as for spalletti, what romanista doesn't have fond memories of his time with roma and the beautiful football played...

but wake up. luis enrique is undertaking a radical and far-reaching overhaul. they are seeking to remake the team DNA. and they are weaning the team off of totti, which in my opinion is absolutely necessary, albeit sad.

furthermore, the new american owner and baldini have firmly backed enrique with no sign of that support fading.

so get over it. roma will not make the CL this year, nor should we necessarily expect them to do so. if we make it to the Europa League, that will mark a major success. let's see how things are going come april. until then, basta!

just to clarify i dont condone LE leaving at this point. all i said is IF he were to leave, i'd prefer spaletti over ancelotti

even though LE is crap, we're still better off with him at this point of the season. if we get rid of him, we'll need to get used to a new coach and new system. it's too late for that. we'd be back at square A. although i don't have much faith in LE, i think we can only improve with him over time, but i'll give him until the end of the season to at least qualify us for europa league next season. anything less then he should go

by the end of the season, if we finish 1st-4th, keep him; 5th-6th, sack him only if Spaletti/Ancelotti are available; below 6th, sack him

[talk2smc]

jesus. just look at our league position. 3 points from bottom places. a win would pull us up around 6th though.

things tight in the mid table. then again, im still trying to wrap my mind comprehending why we are in mid table.

thanks LE. heres hoping you arent an idiot tomorrow, play Totti, maybe even Borriello, and get at least a point, tho I would probably shit myself if we won by some divine intervention.

[TechGuyatNY]

jesus. just look at our league position. 3 points from bottom places. a win would pull us up around 6th though.

things tight in the mid table. then again, im still trying to wrap my mind comprehending why we are in mid table.

thanks LE. heres hoping you arent an idiot tomorrow, play Totti, maybe even Borriello, and get at least a point, tho I would probably shit myself if we won by some divine intervention.

i'd shit myself if we even manage to draw

with half our team suspended/injured, what's our XI going to be like? (cassetti's injured now too FYI)

Stekelenburg
Taddei DeRossi Heinze Angel
Pjanic Perrotta Greco
Lamela
Borriello Osvaldo
bench: Lobont/Curci, Okaka, Cicinho + primavera

spells failure

[talk2smc]

it was all going so well...

then Chiellini, then Totti and Buffon :(

this is why LE wont go regardless of result. the effort tonite from the players was immense. better quality team in Juve, but jesus, watch this game and tell me De Rossi isnt WORLD CLASS. played out of position ALL season, 3rd position played tonite and still is a world beater.

Perrotta's 300th appearance for us. incredible player

for having 9 first team players out, against the league leaders, ill take it. but i did feel we did more than Juve to earn the win. Totti doesnt miss them often, but that wasnt a great PK, and Buffon is always up for a save

still terrible fitness in the last 15. Taddei, Greco, even Simplicio as a sub was awful, forced Stek into some saves to save our game, De Rossi into YCs..

its the difference between who we were expecting to win these games, and who we are now, taking positives from a point.

[TechGuyatNY]

i have just royally soiled myself. i'd happily take a draw. although i hope we get a better result vs napoli next week. 2 draws is worse than 1 win 1 loss

i'm still quite gutted buffon had to save totti's PK

but tbf stekelenburg saved our bacon tonight

[Whoah10115]

i have just royally soiled myself.



A nut is a terrible thing to waste.





De Rossi is, by far, the best DM in the world. No surprise.



I hear there are two very good Roma CM's, one of whom is the captain and a mix of De Rossi and Pizarro? I assume that's a broad comparison, but still...are these two lookin like serious players?

[talk2smc]

Viviani and Caprari? Caprari is a a striker, and i havent seen enough of them. but no, i wouldnt call either a mix of those two.

I was glad to see Viviani play, and play well tonight.

was disappointed in LE's comments post game AGAIN. mainly because as any proper Romanista, I am quick to defend any criticism of the Captain. he missed a PK, and yes we could have used it.

he isnt fully fit tho, played well, and it was a poor PK against one of the worlds best. last thing he needs is LE to come out swinging. seems thats just LE unfortunately.

still doesnt get Roma or Rome or Italians. worrying.

[Whoah10115]

Viviani and Caprari? Caprari is a a striker, and i havent seen enough of them. but no, i wouldnt call either a mix of those two.





I just heard of them. I don't know why he was referenced as a CM. What is Viviani then?

[talk2smc]

I just heard of them. I don't know why he was referenced as a CM. What is Viviani then?

his debut was yesterday..he was playing in De Rossi's usual plce given that De Rossi was playing at CB.

[TechGuyatNY]

I just heard of them. I don't know why he was referenced as a CM. What is Viviani then?

deep lying playmaker / sweeper / libero

[andu]

Zonal Marking analysis: How effectively is Luis Enrique implementing the Barcelona methods at Roma? (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/14/luis-enrique-roma-tactics-barcelona/)

[talk2smc]

Zonal Marking analysis: How effectively is Luis Enrique implementing the Barcelona methods at Roma? (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/14/luis-enrique-roma-tactics-barcelona/)

dont need to read an analysis to know it isnt working.

shame on the sections of fans criticizing Totti, his response was just as harsh, but i dont think theres any real fear of him leaving.

[TechGuyatNY]

dont need to read an analysis to know it isnt working.

shame on the sections of fans criticizing Totti, his response was just as harsh, but i dont think theres any real fear of him leaving.

it's still a pretty good read nonetheless. and i'm glad zonalmarking finally did an article on roma. they're a good source but they haven't covered much of Roma lately

[andu]

^ it's just one man, though, so the lack of coverage can be easily explained by him probably doing mostly the games for which he gets paid to analyse elsewhere (I doubt ZM gets him much revenue yet).

It's never hard to see if something is working or not, but it's not that easy to clarify the issue by identifying the elements and analysing what's working, what not, why, and what could be done.

[talk2smc]

best match weve played all year if you ask me. was surprised at the result for us, and the consistent concentration all match.


an early goal we typically dont get, Lamela a constant threat, Bojan when he came on, Osvaldo a bit wasteful but put his chance away when necessary, beautiful cross from Totti.

defense was solid, and Juan showed just how valuable he can be as a man marker. Cavani barely had a sniff till late on. Napoli had chances tho, but this Roma is a danger to concede always.

LE better with his tactics tonight too, and a huge 3 points...should be 3 more away to Bologna when we play the make up match from the first week.


that mid table area is very crowded, from 12th to 5-6th so we need to keep winning.

Bologna away, Chievo in the New Year, Catania away ( always tough for us), Cesena, Bologna, Cagliari away to start the reverse fixtures...

im expecting one slip up, but out of those 6 games, Im expecting at least 15 points

[TechGuyatNY]

i was watching at a juve bar today. i dont speak italian but it seemed like the majority of them were rooting for roma. good atmosphere regardless. first time i ever watched a football match at a sports bar

we were lucky to win today

napoli had two harshly disallowed goals, an own goal, a deflected goal, and hamsik missed a siter. they were very unlucky to lose. but regardless, i'll take it. there were still a lot of positives to take from this game and it's good to see totti back in the team. his passing and touch was amazing. i'm also very proud to have simplicio in our team, but it's unfortunate he never gets to play. (who wants to bet simplicio won't be starting on wednesday :D?). so we won 3-1 but i'm not going to linger too much on it. we were a bit lucky tbh. bologna next

[Whoah10115]

It's remarkable how much Osvaldo wants to be Johnny Depp, post Pirates.

[talk2smc]

for once, i 100% agree with LE post match.

best Roma performance this season, complete control of the game, only disappointed we didnt score more.

dominant, and PURPOSEFUL possession, one touch passing making Bologna chase the ball the entire match long.

i was a harsh critic of Osvaldo early on, i think he still only has a move or two, but perhaps I was comparing to Mirko who had loads. Osvaldo is a testy character, but he has put in his share of the goals, and is looking a consistent scorer, even pushing Borriello on the market.

Pjanic is clearly our singing of the summer tho, Lamela looks bright, but Pjanic is a danger everywhere and the balls and passes through midfield are spot on.

im a bit down to see us in the position on the table we are, i always expect Roma in around 3-7ish, we are near the bottom of that. but given the revolution, i should be accepting of it.

Totti is clearly the focal point, not too happy hes pushed back to trequarista often given his pace now, and De Rossi needs to always be central as he was played today.

wish list-

LE to be more flexible given the ebb and flow of games. (ie. winning, shut up shop, collect points, losing, push forward, but not susceptable to the coutner, etc) I think his inexperience is glaring in this department.

settle on a consistent XI, or at a minimum a back 4

target the Coppa, I want to be the first club with the silver star

push for a spot in Europe (ie. finish higher than 6th)

AND SETTLE DE ROSSI'S CONTRACT

[talk2smc]

seems Borriello is set for a Juve loan with a 7.5 mil option to buy if they like.

makes no sense if you ask me, i felt he always put in goals when asked to play in a starter or sub role, not many big men with a left foot. also losing 3 or so mil on him from the 10 we paid to Milan.

seems Juve also want Pizarro perhaps, one of our best players over the last 3 seasons or so.


but seems we are now in the odd phase of 'looking for players with different qualities..'



pretty sure Nilmar doesnt have those qualities and yet we will likely sign him...

[talk2smc]

and 24 hours after Borriello goes to Juve, Osvaldo goes down in training looking like a long layoff.

sigh.

[TechGuyatNY]

and 24 hours after Borriello goes to Juve, Osvaldo goes down in training looking like a long layoff.

sigh.

yeup.... now we're trying to get amauri on loan :mad:

[talk2smc]

Scusate il ritardo!!!! hahahahahahahahaha


no worries for the delay Capitano legend! you always come good just like last year 12 in your last 13!
what a hero, just like with his famous shirts ill always remember- volte solo con te, vi ho purghatto, sei unica, and now this one hahaha! classic!

and clearly a blind referee. Bojan won two PKs, one end of the first half, one about 57 minutes, and neither called. needed the linesman for the handball that Bojan finally did win!



couple things:
1. Totti, legend fantastic match.
2. De Rossi, having the season of his life and in and out of position, amazing
3. Bojan improved, but need to work on your finishing
4. loved seeing De Rossi and the bench get excited for the chance from Caprari late on. shows a real team spirit for the youths as well
5. Totti being subbed, exchange between him and LE


great start to 2012! lets keep it goinggggg!!!!

[TechGuyatNY]

totti's shirt was awesome :D:D:D:D:D, best i've seen in a while

the second PK call was harsh because cesar was on the ground already. it was ball to hand. but it make up for the earlier 2 non-calls so i'm not complaining

omggg if caprari had scored that would've been icing on the cake

we played well today considering chievo stokecitied us. no open play goals but we controlled the game well and sorrentino is sorrentino

209!!!

[talk2smc]

totti's shirt was awesome :D:D:D:D:D, best i've seen in a while

the second PK call was harsh because cesar was on the ground already. it was ball to hand. but it make up for the earlier 2 non-calls so i'm not complaining

omggg if caprari had scored that would've been icing on the cake

we played well today considering chievo stokecitied us. no open play goals but we controlled the game well and sorrentino is sorrentino

209!!!


209 indeed!!!!!!

[talk2smc]

huge match today, and off to Turin again like last year in the Coppa! hoping for another Taddei stunner then :D

i felt this match was huge, because first half was NOT good. Stek did such a nice job keeping us in it.

but then LE showed some maturation by getting the subs SPOT on, Perrotta in for Viviani (where the moves broke down int he first half) and he began the move for Lamela's opener.

Borini came on to spark pressure and got the third, and Totti hit both assists. pure class.

18 yrs to 35 yrs to 20 yrs:p


i REALLY want to win the Coppa before Juve as it would mean we get the first ever silver star on the kit.

great match today!

[Arg10]

Nice to see Lamela score two goals. That second one... nice passing.

It would be nice if you guys won the Coppa. I'll be rooting for you!

There were some rumors in the Argentine news that Simeone (at Atletico) wants Gago, of course it would be on loan. Though I read that like 2-3 days ago and I haven't read anything since.

Anyways, all the best to you guys for the rest of the season!

[deviant]

Nice to see Lamela score two goals. That second one... nice passing.

It would be nice if you guys won the Coppa. I'll be rooting for you!

There were some rumors in the Argentine news that Simeone (at Atletico) wants Gago, of course it would be on loan. Though I read that like 2-3 days ago and I haven't read anything since.

Anyways, all the best to you guys for the rest of the season!

Gago still belongs to Real ? Cant loan a loaned player can you?

[talk2smc]

Nice to see Lamela score two goals. That second one... nice passing.

It would be nice if you guys won the Coppa. I'll be rooting for you!

There were some rumors in the Argentine news that Simeone (at Atletico) wants Gago, of course it would be on loan. Though I read that like 2-3 days ago and I haven't read anything since.

Anyways, all the best to you guys for the rest of the season!

thanks Arg! Im hoping for it because I really want the silver star before Juve wins it. Gotta get thru them in Turin in about 2 weeks tho, and still wouldnt be finished of course.

As far as I know, Gago was loaned so I think deviant is correct, he would have to agree to cancel the loan and then back to Real, then another, or a outright deal etc. but I doubt either as it seems Enrique likes him for De Rossi's cover in CMF/RMF

[Arg10]

Gago still belongs to Real ? Cant loan a loaned player can you?

thanks Arg! Im hoping for it because I really want the silver star before Juve wins it. Gotta get thru them in Turin in about 2 weeks tho, and still wouldnt be finished of course.

As far as I know, Gago was loaned so I think deviant is correct, he would have to agree to cancel the loan and then back to Real, then another, or a outright deal etc. but I doubt either as it seems Enrique likes him for De Rossi's cover in CMF/RMF

Pretty sure you're both right. In any case, I would prefer to see Gago stay in Roma then go to Atletico as I think Simeone is a mess of a manager. Plus, I think playing in the Italian league would (tactically) make him a better player... or atleast I hope.

Talk2smc, the star would be for the first team to win 10 Coppa's, right?

[talk2smc]

Pretty sure you're both right. In any case, I would prefer to see Gago stay in Roma then go to Atletico as I think Simeone is a mess of a manager. Plus, I think playing in the Italian league would (tactically) make him a better player... or atleast I hope.

Talk2smc, the star would be for the first team to win 10 Coppa's, right?

Gago has done decently since being here. in any view tho he is a poor mans De Rossi. and I dont like the one or two games that LE has played them both, as it pushed De Rossi out wide RMF.

as for the silver stars, it would be. Juve and Roma both have 9 Coppa Italia trophies, and so the tenth means silver stars for both.

we will play each other on the 29th away in Turin tho, and I really want to win to have a chance for the trophy, but also because I dont want Juve getting that star before us..

still big boys in the mix tho, with Juve, Napoli, Inter, Milan and Lazio possibilities for opponents in the Coppa

[talk2smc]

apparently we have signed a left winger named Marquinho from Fluminense on loan with option to buy.

dont know much about him to be honest.



have to be careful versus an in form Catania on home ground, and with Montella.

[TechGuyatNY]

apparently we have signed a left winger named Marquinho from Fluminense on loan with option to buy.

dont know much about him to be honest.


he's a poor man's michel bastos

[TechGuyatNY]

borini should start instead of bojan =[

oh well

i actually hope we don't thrash catania. for montella's sake. 2-0 would be fine by me

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...

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changed my mind. i hope we thrash catania so bad that montella subs himself on and scores himself

7-1

[talk2smc]

i hate these games. bc they favor weaker less talented teams and the weather takes away from our skills and passing game.

the first half was playable, but the second half especially at our defensive end was horrible. 3 points to be won or lost based on neither a skill or better play, but of a mistake, slip, dive.

Tagliavento missed a clear PK on Rosi too, which might have put us up 2-1 in the first half.

felt Catania had their chances and played better than us on the whole, but no surprise these conditions always punish the more gifted talented teams. no surprise when LE subbed off De Rossi and Totti, guaranteed he was concerned about injury.

called off in the 65th after Tagliavento tried with Taddei and Izco to play the bounce on the pitch and the ball stopped dead.


it always hurts us because it means another fucking trip down to Sicily at some point midweek im sure.

[TechGuyatNY]

^#$^*@#&^%)&^@#)&$@#$

FUCCKKKKK, i thought the game started at 2:45 as usual!!

[talk2smc]

what a way to break yet ANOTHER record.

in the first minute, off the right boot, from Foggia in 94 to now, 211 goals in Serie A now from his two so far today.

Totti is now the highest goal scorer for one club in all of calcio's history.

AMAZING. LEGEND. CAPITANO.


what a display tho in the first half! slick movement, passing, LE must be pleased with THIS Roma and not the jekyll and hyde game we sometimes play.
it could have been so much more too, almost everyone having chances from Totti and Lamela's passing, whom Im really starting to enjoy.


expecting more now, and loving that its against Mutu, cant stand that dirty fucker. Forza Roma! lets score 3 more in the second!

all without De Rossi! :o!

[talk2smc]

annnd the two faces of Roma.

fucking hell, gotta admit that one hurt. I really dont want Juve to win given that i want the star before them. 3-0 to Juve hurts. and another man sent off.

have to be honest, its not even february and we only have Serie A football. hasnt been that way in quite a few number of years, back when we actually were in CL knockouts and Coppa Finals.

a B Juve squad beat us soundly, and LE a bit off the mark if he thinks Roma werent inferior.



back to work. :( all the other big sides somehow still in the Coppa.

[TechGuyatNY]

i was at work today. too busy to watch/follow.

came home, saw the score and starting lineups. thats all i know and all i want to know. #$%

[Arg10]

I know you guys are down and rightfuly so, but don't forget, it's a new coach and alot of new players on the team all in their first season. And some in their first season in a new league (the Italian league at that). So while having only Serie A football and it's still January, it could give some of the players the boost that they need to really push for that Europa League spot.

[talk2smc]

I know you guys are down and rightfuly so, but don't forget, it's a new coach and alot of new players on the team all in their first season. And some in their first season in a new league (the Italian league at that). So while having only Serie A football and it's still January, it could give some of the players the boost that they need to really push for that Europa League spot.

yea but lets be honest. its Feb and we have one competition that we are several games behind the pace setters.

it will be a push to make it as high as we can in Serie A, but the Coppa has always been a tournament weve pushed towards the semis in recently, and Europe...well that left with Spalletti for the most part.



Marqinho in Rome apparently to finalize the deal, dont really know anythign of the player.


and slowly news coming out that De Rossi is beginning the process of a 5 yr deal...fingers crossed.

[talk2smc]

very disapointing.

that Napoli, Inter can lose, and we can only muster a draw at home v Bologna.

really need to start putting those displays to 3 points, im aiming for 4th, but not if we continually drop 2 points like we did today.

finishing was very poor today.

[TechGuyatNY]

pizarro =[

my most favorite player since 08

[talk2smc]

pizarro =[

my most favorite player since 08

god he was a stalwart in the Spalletti days no? sprayed balls all over the pitch assisting everyone, making a lot of mediocre players like Baptista, Cerci, Mancini, Taddei, Menez, etc look so much better as a result of his passes and thru balls.

wish him the best tho, and remembered surely, but seems his time in Rome are done, if not Italy.

[phat]

I was hoping maybe he would end up at Juve as a vice Pirlo.

[talk2smc]

awful. again. surprised?

feel like the players have packed it in a bit as its clearly a transition year and now knocked out of the Cup and well out of Europe.

astonishing really. that we ONLY have Serie A to play for. ie. Get the fuck into Europe at least, and we can concede 4 goals to a team that just got DEMOLISHED by Milan.

awesome to see 4th place basically out of grasp, at the same time seeing teams under us creep up.


cmon, honestly what the fuck, its Cagliari. fucking win these bullshit games honestly. its only Inter next. jesus.

[deviant]

Shit is about to hit the fan now.....LE wont last with Capello around next summer.

[talk2smc]

Shit is about to hit the fan now.....LE wont last with Capello around next summer.

no, couldnt be farther from the truth. Di Benedetto, Baldini, Palotta, etc basically everyone has confirmed even when we were worse than this that LE wasnt going anywhere and he was the one they choose specifically for Roma.

glad to see LE feeling the same as me post game. completely pathetic, and he said we wont go anywhere playing like this.

cmon fucking Roma.

[phat]

Carletto would have saved you... To bad he went to PSG. Capello would do well and if next year hes available (most likely) since England sucks it would be idiotic for Roma not to sign him. I'm actully pretty sure the deal is already done. If not you need a hard ass... Or maybe Zeman...? Lol

[fcb_sandy05]

Carletto would have saved you... To bad he went to PSG. Capello would do well and if next year hes available (most likely) since England sucks it would be idiotic for Roma not to sign him. I'm actully pretty sure the deal is already done. If not you need a hard ass... Or maybe Zeman...? Lol
Saved them from what exactly?

[phat]

Saved them from what exactly?

From embarrassment.

[talk2smc]

ive always wanted Carlo here. but if Roma wanted to continue on in the Carlo vein they would have hired him straight after Ranieri "resigned".

even Montella was here, who was a youthful coach, and a winning one actually, he is doing so well early in his coaching career, but its the mentality and style that Roma wanted differently.

even in Enriques post game just after losing to Cagliar he said it was a pathetic Roma but that he is happy because we have an identity even if we lose.

(not sure how I feel about that..)

but basically Roma fans need to get on board, as it doesnt seem like there will be any changes coming in the near future.

[fcb_sandy05]

From embarrassment.
Because they've played poorly on occasion and lost to some mid-table teams? I've seen Ancelotti teams do that too...

[phat]

Because they've played poorly on occasion and lost to some mid-table teams? I've seen Ancelotti teams do that too...

Why don't you say what your really saying. Your trying to defend LE, probably cause he's from Barca right?

This is not La Liga. If you don't defend you won't win and LE has failed miserably in trying to get the team to run. By the way I'm not blaming him or want him to get the boot but him still having a job in Italy is highly unusual.

[phat]

How do you guys feel about the possibility of DDR leaving?

[talk2smc]

A. Enrique has issues most of which come from his inexperience. but he isnt a failure, and has no easy task in Rome. read how Capello describes working in Rome.

B. De Rossi isnt leaving, already reports for weeks about getting closer to the deal, and reports today that he already rejected moves to City and United to stay on at Roma. He will make alot of money, and well deserved. but he is going to stay and we need him to.

C. nothing at all to be embarrassed about. its not as if our current inconsistency is anything new to Roma fans.

[fcb_sandy05]

Why don't you say what your really saying. Your trying to defend LE, probably cause he's from Barca right?

This is not La Liga. If you don't defend you won't win and LE has failed miserably in trying to get the team to run. By the way I'm not blaming him or want him to get the boot but him still having a job in Italy is highly unusual.
Eh? If you want to infer that there's nothing I can do about it.

It maybe unusual in Italy for him to still have a job in but maybe there's something unusual in changing managers on a monthly basis. Besides, what they're trying to do is highly unusual. It's a massive change in the attitude and culture on and off the pitch and if people were expecting immediate results, that was never going to happen.

I'm not saying Enrique is guaranteed to succeed but 6 months isn't enough time to judge and the people who hired him clearly know that. By saying that they wanted someone "uncontaminated" by Italian football, Baldini took a pretty big risk and basically tied himself to the project, if not Luis Enrique.

As talksmc mentioned, maybe some of the younger players have become complacent because it's clearly become a transitional season. And maybe Enrique deserves blame for that but an embarrassment? Hardly.

(Defending is important in other leagues too btw. Italians don't have a monopoly on that)

[TechGuyatNY]

Carletto would have saved you... To bad he went to PSG. Capello would do well and if next year hes available (most likely) since England sucks it would be idiotic for Roma not to sign him. I'm actully pretty sure the deal is already done. If not you need a hard ass... Or maybe Zeman...? Lol

Carletto would sign like 3 veteran chelsea players which would kill the development of most of our youth players, no thanks

spaletti i wouldnt mind back

[talk2smc]

fuck yea son! the inconsistency is so funny to me :P and gives me a heart attack.

but weve skinned Inter all day so far, Borini making Maicon look like a child, and Totti and Lamela flicking and deft touches everywhere.

huuuuge game, needed to win it, performed so damn well, just need to get this going every week. Milito hit 4 in the previous game, and Juan marked his ass out of the game, and we pushed Pazzini to be substituted at half for a midfielder

you can also see what it means to have De Rossi back in the squad. soooo much possession and he ate up everything on the counter. Taddei needs alot of credit from me as well for criticizing him in the past, but he surely has reinvented himself as a fullback switching games with Rosi.
youth product Pistecelli on as well which i always love to see.


beautiful game, Ranieri always welcome in my opinion for what he has done for Roma, but glad to have beaten him today.

its also a privilege many of us wont have too many more years, to see Zanetti and Totti as captains facing off.

[TechGuyatNY]

romaaaaaaaaa

boriniiiiiiii :D

what a game. we embarrassed inter, completely dominated in every aspect. saw the whole match but still gonna download the highlights to my phone so i can watch whenever i feel depressed :D. best result for us since 5-1 lazio

[fcb_sandy05]

Looks like that performance was a celebration of De Rossi signing a new contract.

[TechGuyatNY]

Looks like that performance was a celebration of De Rossi signing a new contract.

apparently it's been confirmed he's signed a new contract. press conference tomorrow to the public

http://www.vocegiallorossa.it/?action=read&idnotizia=31657

this is very good news for us. capitano futuro!

[TechGuyatNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICmBm8nVNVE

damn, youtube videos won't show

link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICmBm8nVNVE :D

[talk2smc]

Looks like that performance was a celebration of De Rossi signing a new contract.

the deal was apparently agreed midweek but not disclosed so as to not distract from Inter.

what a game, what a feeling, to defeat Inter in that manner. like the 6-2 back in the Coppa Final years ago.


huge match, really hope it pushes us on. amazing result LE, and great coaching to spur the boys on after the pathetic Cagliari showing.

[fcb_sandy05]

the deal was apparently agreed midweek but not disclosed so as to not distract from Inter.

what a game, what a feeling, to defeat Inter in that manner. like the 6-2 back in the Coppa Final years ago.


huge match, really hope it pushes us on. amazing result LE, and great coaching to spur the boys on after the pathetic Cagliari showing.
That first half was brilliant. All over Inter who didn't put two passes together till the very end of the half.

Some great goals and skill in the match but Totti's backheel to take out four defenders was something else.

[talk2smc]

That first half was brilliant. All over Inter who didn't put two passes together till the very end of the half.

Some great goals and skill in the match but Totti's backheel to take out four defenders was something else.

Totti pulls moves like that weekly. since '92.

Lamela and Pjanic learning from him, you see it game to game, Borini too has been taken under his wing.

this possession football sometimes pays off like today, where we are unplayable, but unfortunately sometimes it makes us quite vulnerable like the Cagliari or Juve Coppa games.

[TechGuyatNY]

must've been a great day for you talk2smc, roma humiliating intermerda, capitano futuro inking 5 years, our rivals dropping points around us, and NY winning the super bowl

not sure how you feel about the EPL game since you're a chelsea fan, but at least it was entertaining

[phat]

must've been a great day for you talk2smc, roma humiliating intermerda, capitano futuro inking 5 years, our rivals dropping points around us, and NY winning the super bowl

not sure how you feel about the EPL game since you're a chelsea fan, but at least it was entertaining

Huge day..... Wow.

[talk2smc]

must've been a great day for you talk2smc, roma humiliating intermerda, capitano futuro inking 5 years, our rivals dropping points around us, and NY winning the super bowl

not sure how you feel about the EPL game since you're a chelsea fan, but at least it was entertaining

Huge day..... Wow.

hahah, yea, it was eventful! spent with family and friends as are almost every saturday to watch all the games. not the biggest amer football fan, but it will be crazy here for days. barely anyone showing up for work today and the parade is tomorrow!

[TechGuyatNY]

hahah, yea, it was eventful! spent with family and friends as are almost every saturday to watch all the games. not the biggest amer football fan, but it will be crazy here for days. barely anyone showing up for work today and the parade is tomorrow!

yeah i only work 3 miles from giants stadium so its hectic here as well. i too don't care much for NFL, and this was actually the first superbowl i watched straight through end to end. this sport's not as bad as i thought but i really don't have enough time/passion to follow Serie A, Bundesliga, AND NFL

also read in the news that the NY rangers won yesterday (another sport i don't care much lol). but great day to be a NY-Roman eh

[TechGuyatNY]

Cote and Bojan updated their blogs on the new website

http://www.asroma.it/en/blog/48-discovering-rome.html

http://www.asroma.it/en/blog/authors/Bojan_Krkic_Perez.html

[talk2smc]

Pisticelli with his first start today in the make up in Catania. more youth coming through. shame we couldnt grab a goal and the 3 points.

the boys stuck in Catania with Etna erupting and ash around the city. will effect the Monday game in Siena, but that game could be called off too with the weather in Europe as it is now.

[talk2smc]

really hoping the game goes ahead tmw. with Inter losing to Novara, Udinese to Milan, a win pushes us 2 points above Inter and getting nearer to 4th.

no Gago, but Osvaldo should be back on the bench. Siena very tough at home, but we have to push to win.

[TechGuyatNY]

really hoping the game goes ahead tmw. with Inter losing to Novara, Udinese to Milan, a win pushes us 2 points above Inter and getting nearer to 4th.

no Gago, but Osvaldo should be back on the bench. Siena very tough at home, but we have to push to win.

no de rossi either. reports are saying we'll be starting viviani

with 2 of greco/simplicio/pjanic ahead of him. lamela also a possibility for center midfield if needed

[talk2smc]

this is seriously the fuckkng shit that will make me die at 40.

motherfuckers, i cant even begin to describe how angry they make me.

4-2 loss to CAGLIARI

4-0 win to INTER

1-0 loss to SIENA

i mean, what the fuck.


i wanted Kjaer, but jesus where is the Kjaer of old Palermo days? horrible. wont be signed permanently


i REITERATE AGAIN. what the FUCK good is 70+ possession when we dont CREATE anything and cant SCORE.


fucking hell. could have leaped Inter but not our fucking inconsistent on/off fucking team.

[soheil86]

this is seriously the fuckkng shit that will make me die at 40.

motherfuckers, i cant even begin to describe how angry they make me.

4-2 loss to CAGLIARI

4-0 win to INTER

1-0 loss to SIENA

i mean, what the fuck.


i wanted Kjaer, but jesus where is the Kjaer of old Palermo days? horrible. wont be signed permanently


i REITERATE AGAIN. what the FUCK good is 70+ possession when we dont CREATE anything and cant SCORE.


fucking hell. could have leaped Inter but not our fucking inconsistent on/off fucking team.

i think it is time to lower our expectations at this state and until LE is gone.

state: our starting defenders are 34 and 35. we have only 1 leftback and rightback in the whole squad. and the midfield is weaker than novara and lecce's midfield if you take de rossi and pjanic out of the equation. on paper, we are not the strongest 4 teams in serie A. so 6th is acceptable and LE is not the kind of coach to do better than what he is given. and simplicio should just stay at home and eat his burgers....really.

LE: both him and baldini came out and said that the players didnt play to their level, but the truth is we were handicapped again by LE's lack of adapting to the situation and his 'philosophy'. totti was marked by 3-4 players and siena closed everything in the middle, a good coach would have tried to stretch the play, but we kept on going through the middle for 70 minutes because that is LE philosophy. even after he put 4 forwards, there was at most only 1 player near the box. with LE, we are never going to win these kind of games because other coaches will take advantage of our disadvantages while we play with our pass-back philosophy. so as long as we dont have a barca strong squad, we are going nowhere with LE.

[talk2smc]

i think it is time to lower our expectations at this state and until LE is gone.

state: our starting defenders are 34 and 35. we have only 1 leftback and rightback in the whole squad. and the midfield is weaker than novara and lecce's midfield if you take de rossi and pjanic out of the equation. on paper, we are not the strongest 4 teams in serie A. so 6th is acceptable and LE is not the kind of coach to do better than what he is given. and simplicio should just stay at home and eat his burgers....really.

LE: both him and baldini came out and said that the players didnt play to their level, but the truth is we were handicapped again by LE's lack of adapting to the situation and his 'philosophy'. totti was marked by 3-4 players and siena closed everything in the middle, a good coach would have tried to stretch the play, but we kept on going through the middle for 70 minutes because that is LE philosophy. even after he put 4 forwards, there was at most only 1 player near the box. with LE, we are never going to win these kind of games because other coaches will take advantage of our disadvantages while we play with our pass-back philosophy. so as long as we dont have a barca strong squad, we are going nowhere with LE.

LE is frustrating as a fan. because when the game plan works- Inter, Bologna, Cesena, we can be unplayable.

when it doesnt, he doesnt change the game. and so Siena, Fiorentina, Cagliari happen.

Baldini was already thinking about Kjaer, and I think now the decision is made.

you are 100% correct in that without Pjanic and De Rossi in that midfield, we get overrun, even if i felt Viviani had a solid game.

Borini will be resigned, Bojan, Lamela all young to work with Totti and Osvaldo. but the defense is what we need and that consistency that we will never find.

the only positive thing about a loss as this is that based on ridiculous Roma form it should mean a home win v Parma.



the only managers I felt brought any real consistency to us was Capello and Spalletti.

[deviant]

I enjoyed watching Lucky Luciano's Roma more than any other.

[talk2smc]

I enjoyed watching Lucky Luciano's Roma more than any other.

god me too. i mean Don Fabio is always in the hearts of Romanisti no matter what. we have always awaited Carletto. Claudio and Vincenzo were chosen with the heart.

but for most young fans (teens, 20's) watching the 4-2-3-1 before anyone else was doing it, making a beautiful brand of football, and doing it with no money, Totti playing CF...was pure beauty.

the fact that he left without walking away with the rest of what he was due is just like when Tommasi took youth wages when injured. pure class, to put what each loved ahead of themselves.
i hope one day he returns to Rome. i was deeply saddened when he left.

[talk2smc]

important win and Borini with the points again AND at his employers!

still give me a heart attack defending the last 15, but i felt it was a solid team performance today and one we needed as we jump Napoli and Inter now.

lets keep this shit going for momentum into the Derby

[talk2smc]

quick notes:

Totti out for Atalanta, so Lamela should slot in making it Borini, Osvaldo, Lamela front 3. with Milan playing Juve and Napoli playing Inter we have to win for sure.

also- Perrotta extended for another year. though he hasnt played much under LE, he is so dedicated to Roma and I love the guy. always good for 30 minutes of solid running now, and versatile in the midfield surely.

and last- Roma's website has been all updated as part of the new ownership, so if you havent been by it, check it out. more user friendly now for sure :D

[talk2smc]

at least we dont provide any controversy. we just gift 2 goals in 20 minutes to teams on the counter in a must win game.

no big fucking deal. fucking play De Rossi as you see what happens if you dont. fucking hell Roma.

didnt even need Kjaer on today to have a shit team rout us.

[TechGuyatNY]

what a fucking travesty of a match

why do referees have to keep fucking us over

moralez should have been sent off for slapping rosi in the face

and cassetti/osvaldo did nothing to warrant a red. ridiculous. it's fiorentina all over again

[talk2smc]

what a fucking travesty of a match

why do referees have to keep fucking us over

moralez should have been sent off for slapping rosi in the face

and cassetti/osvaldo did nothing to warrant a red. ridiculous. it's fiorentina all over again


except it was already 3-1 by the time any of the red cards happened. I put this one on Enrique. clearly looking ahead to the Derby.

no De Rossi, Marquinho clearly not ready, Gago was awful in the midfield and all season has NEVER held the roll without De Rossi holding his hand.

and my biggest criticism since day 1. THERE IS NO PLAN B WHEN WE ARE COUNTERED ON AND TRAILING. hence why a player like Denis scores 3, and a team like Atalanta who hadnt scored in their last 4 MATCHES scores 4 against us.

[deviant]

smh, Not good man, not good.

[talk2smc]

smh, Not good man, not good.

no surprise at all. a win, then a loss. Roma has never had consistency since Capello.

the only positive thing is that it would somewhat speculate a win in the Derby next week.

shit match. shit attitudes. shit players today. shit management.
Montella must be laughing every matchday. that we basically havent gotten any more points than when he was here, we have the same shit disciplinary record of asshole players getting sent off, and still as inconsistent as ever.



what gets me the MOST. is playing like shit before the sending offs. ALL WE HAVE LEFT TO PLAY FOR IS SERIE A ENRIQUE! just so you know. so if you cant get the boys motivated to play better when Napoli plays Inter and a chance to secure our position then id say im quite concerned.

[TechGuyatNY]

no!! candreva plays for lazio? i had no idea he got reloaned out. i still tgought he was at cesena. i always liked him but he's dead to me now. what kind of romanista is he :mad:

edit: tomorrow better be a good *bleep* game for us. i turned down free drinks tonight because i don't want to get hungover and oversleep tomorrow's game

i am not happy atm. it's saturday night and i'm dry

[talk2smc]

feel sick.
Borini invaluable. alot of heart to play down 10 men for 84+ minutes.

gutted. no idea where this team stands.

classiest man ever, Juan. after dealing with racist chants from select cunts in the Lazio Ultra Curva Nord.

[Phenom]

hoping things get better dude,being a footy fan can be soul destroying at times lol

[deviant]

LE and AVB have certainly put a few grey hairs on talk2smc this season.

[talk2smc]

hoping things get better dude,being a footy fan can be soul destroying at times lol

LE and AVB have certainly put a few grey hairs on talk2smc this season.

ill be dead by 30 with this sport and these boys. : /

the Derby hit kind of hard. the way in which we lost both, since 97 we lost both as well. tough times.


hopefully brighter in the future.

[talk2smc]

im pretty concerned.

i dont see us finishing well this year at all. we still have Milan, Juve, and Napoli, and have been shit against all the lower teams. Napoli and Inter father above us now, and Catania, Palermo coming up fast while we play like fucking shit.

[talk2smc]

jesus....that second half, and the last 10. we are really a poor team in defense, and when the 'possession' isnt working we look awful.

at this point, the 3 points...ill take them.


Borini, 7 in 7! HAS to be Italy young player of the year, and on the bench for the Euro.

lucky to get the points with the squad we had, really poor second half.

[TechGuyatNY]

jesus....that second half, and the last 10. we are really a poor team in defense, and when the 'possession' isnt working we look awful.

at this point, the 3 points...ill take them.


Borini, 7 in 7! HAS to be Italy young player of the year, and on the bench for the Euro.

lucky to get the points with the squad we had, really poor second half.

has to be the most in-form italian player right now

[andu]

Great game by Lobonţ, nice to see he still has it.

[talk2smc]

must win tomorrow w Genoa and im expecting it at home.

us, Inter, and Catania tied on 41 points now, and Lazio in 3rd place at 48 points, we really need to make as best a push as we can

[talk2smc]

veeeery happy today to grind out another 1-0 win, only 3rd place Lazio -4 now, and some games v Milan and Udinese so Im really still hoping we can ride this form into Milan and maybe give it a real go.

LE has the boys playing well, but for all the attacking he is right we HAVE to be more clinical. Milan and Udinese and Catania wont let us sit back with a goal lead and just take the points.