New revelation rocks Inter

[zaffo]

New revelation rocks Inter
Monday 2 October, 2006
Inter’s position in the most recent telephone interception scandal has become more critical after the confession of a former Telecom manager.

The FIGC launched a new investigation, which is being led by the head of the Investigation Office Francesco Saverio Borrelli, after former referee Massimo De Santis accused Inter of tailing him as well as tapping his phone in 2002, in the aftermath of the new scandal revealing hundreds of cases of phone interceptions by Telecom Italia.

According to the Italian Press, the ex-Telecom Italia security boss Giuliano Tavaroli confessed from prison that the he did spy on De Santis and that this activity was at least in part commissioned by the Nerazzurri, as confirmed by his lawyer.

"That is partially true. The activity was commissioned by the Inter management and was taken care of in part by Tavaroli, in part by the private investigator Emanuele Cipriani,” said Massimo Dinoia after speaking to his client in the Voghera prison.

“The investigation was mainly aimed at acquiring information on the referee’s properties and was conducted between 2002 and 2003.”

Nerazzurri owner Massimo Moratti reacted immediately to the accusations, saying that his club had nothing to do with the interceptions despite Telecom being one of its shareholders.

He is scheduled to meet Borrelli on Tuesday to clarify his position, while De Santis, who declared that he would claim damages, will be heard on Monday.

Inter could risk a fine for violating the sporting code if the accusations prove to be true, but at the time being there is no reason to believe that there would be consequences for the team itself in terms of points deductions.

source (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct2d.html)

[phat]

Surprise Surpise

[juventino]

There is a double standard here. I'm not trolling, I just want to reason out something for all of you...because you (Inter fans) were once accusing us of being in denial, while suddenly the tables have turned because Inter FC + fans are in a similar denial as well! I explained this before somewhere in an Inter forum maybe a few weeks back, but I didn't elaborate any further.

Juve get relegated for alleged match-fixing on the basis of telephonic evidence. Fine. Now there was similar telephonic evidence from, God rest his soul, Mr. Fachetti, which seemed to be overlooked and nobody made a fuss about...except the two main culprits' fans in Juve and Milan (and of course the Lazio and Fiorentina fans who probably felt hard done by since their allegations were in the same minority as the evidence caught on Fachetti). Now Inter fans' (and of course, the massive anti-Juve bandwagon) mentality is "Based on this evidence surely Juve have no where to hide, and must be punished accordingly." - which is what happened. (I'm ignoring the whiners who still moaned that we should be in C, D, Z, extinguished from existence )

Suddenly you have Inter awarded the Scudetto, (two Juve superstars poached by Inter in the process, not too sure how relevant that is) Guido Rossi becomes appointed of President of TeleCom Italia, the same company which the wire-tapping took place in. Not to mention the other negative penalties, the poor financial situations of most Serie A clubs...as they say in Latin - Qui bono? (who benefits) The answer is simple, Inter.

Now if you're going to argue that the refs haven't been that kind to Inter in Serie A, then that is not what I'm getting at (although I did notice a Falcone red card prior to Inter-Samp, but it wasn't consistent with my suspicion after the 1-1 draw and disallowed goals)

I can't quite put my hand on it, since there is no such thing as a "perfect system" (hey, the Moggi system provided Scudetti to Milan, and the Rome teams which by the way also seems incosistent with the whole Calciopoli allegations against Juve, but like I said earlier...denial)

What you saw before Calciopoli was Juve supposedly "robbing" Scudetti.

What I see now is Inter benefitting with Juve out of the picture, the negatives, and the TeleCom takeover, and the recent allegation by De Santis.

The plot thickens...

[phat]

There is a double standard here. I'm not trolling, I just want to reason out something for all of you...because you (Inter fans) were once accusing us of being in denial, while suddenly the tables have turned because Inter FC + fans are in a similar denial as well! I explained this before somewhere in an Inter forum maybe a few weeks back, but I didn't elaborate any further.

Juve get relegated for alleged match-fixing on the basis of telephonic evidence. Fine. Now there was similar telephonic evidence from, God rest his soul, Mr. Fachetti, which seemed to be overlooked and nobody made a fuss about...except the two main culprits' fans in Juve and Milan (and of course the Lazio and Fiorentina fans who probably felt hard done by since their allegations were in the same minority as the evidence caught on Fachetti). Now Inter fans' (and of course, the massive anti-Juve bandwagon) mentality is "Based on this evidence surely Juve have no where to hide, and must be punished accordingly." - which is what happened. (I'm ignoring the whiners who still moaned that we should be in C, D, Z, extinguished from existence )

Suddenly you have Inter awarded the Scudetto, (two Juve superstars poached by Inter in the process, not too sure how relevant that is) Guido Rossi becomes appointed of President of TeleCom Italia, the same company which the wire-tapping took place in. Not to mention the other negative penalties, the poor financial situations of most Serie A clubs...as they say in Latin - Qui bono? (who benefits) The answer is simple, Inter.

Now if you're going to argue that the refs haven't been that kind to Inter in Serie A, then that is not what I'm getting at (although I did notice a Falcone red card prior to Inter-Samp, but it wasn't consistent with my suspicion after the 1-1 draw and disallowed goals)

I can't quite put my hand on it, since there is no such thing as a "perfect system" (hey, the Moggi system provided Scudetti to Milan, and the Rome teams which by the way also seems incosistent with the whole Calciopoli allegations against Juve, but like I said earlier...denial)

What you saw before Calciopoli was Juve supposedly "robbing" Scudetti.

What I see now is Inter benefitting with Juve out of the picture, the negatives, and the TeleCom takeover, and the recent allegation by De Santis.

The plot thickens...

I would would add AC Milan, Berlusconi, Galliani and now don't forget to add Albertinni and Donadoni to the list of people to benefit from Juve's relagation and more importantly Moggi's ban. All this shortly after both Agnelli's pass away, god rest their soul. Maybe even why Lippi quit and does not want to return. After all they tried to bring him down as well. Why was Claudio Gentile dissmissed so abruptly???

It is clear that there is some kind of Milanese conspiracy being played out with Juve and Juventini young and old being at the receiving end.

However I do believe in karma and believe me karma is a bitch.

[Zico]

Serie A needs a big shake up....

oh hold on... European football needs a major shake up.

So a few teams got caught in Serie A, what about La Liga, Bundesliga, Premiership? I think they are all the same.

A few months ago I said that this is a reason to abolish Italian football... it is all crooked... the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that its a continental problem!

[zaffo]

The problem is the federation had the chance to clean up the Italian game but instead they botched it right up and achieved nothing.

[chauchey]

So a few teams got caught in Serie A, what about La Liga, Bundesliga, Premiership? I think they are all the same.

A few months ago I said that this is a reason to abolish Italian football... it is all crooked... the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that its a continental problem! Perhaps its because corruption is rampant from the top down, and everyone is just taking their que's from the people who run the whole show.

[narduch]

I think the Guadian's James Richardson sums up this new scandal quite nicely:

Many Juve supporters had long argued that Inter set their club up to get them out of the way and nab the title. Naturally, they're now lapping up this story as vindication. Still, although the idea of a rival club directing the investigations is an unhappy one, whoever put the case against Juve together, there's little question that the Old Lady was caught bang to rights, heading past the check-out with the football equivalent of seven frozen turkeys and a keg of Party 7 stuffed inside her ample skirts.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/10/03/juventus_angered_as_interminab.html

[sweed]

another italian football scandal :rolleyes:

[kaku]

I would would add AC Milan, Berlusconi, Galliani and now don't forget to add Albertinni and Donadoni to the list of people to benefit from Juve's relagation and more importantly Moggi's ban. All this shortly after both Agnelli's pass away, god rest their soul. Maybe even why Lippi quit and does not want to return. After all they tried to bring him down as well. Why was Claudio Gentile dissmissed so abruptly???

It is clear that there is some kind of Milanese conspiracy being played out with Juve and Juventini young and old being at the receiving end.

However I do believe in karma and believe me karma is a bitch.
Phat, you are being delusional here.A milanese conspiracy against juve.You believe that the whole italian football is under Milan's control, conspiring endlessly against anyone related to Juventus.:D

You are right about karma though, and it bit juve in the ass not that long ago.

[malicia]

another italian football scandal :rolleyes:

and a huge breaking one in england :rolleyes: and the ref one in germany and some in brazil and violence in argentina....
all hail to the great god of mammon :p
we lose :(

[deviant]

Phat, you are being delusional here.A milanese conspiracy against juve.You believe that the whole italian football is under Milan's control, conspiring endlessly against anyone related to Juventus.:D

You are right about karma though, and it bit juve in the ass not that long ago.
You honestly believe all those key members of italian football do not have anything to do with the cheating in italy give me a break Im sure Milan have recieved favoritism dozens of times, who really is the delusional one here.

[narduch]

Seriously though, what's worse, spying on your enemy or getting caught with your pants down because you were cheating?

What Inter did was wrong, but Juve's crimes are still inexcusable.

[Silas]

Seriously though, what's worse, spying on your enemy or getting caught with your pants down because you were cheating?

What Inter did was wrong, but Juve's crimes are still inexcusable.
Voyeurism is worse.

[deviant]

Seriously though, what's worse, spying on your enemy or getting caught with your pants down because you were cheating?

What Inter did was wrong, but Juve's crimes are still inexcusable.
Who is Excusing Juve here what they did was absolutely wrong BUT that doesnt mean everyone else is clean. They used Juve as a scape goat and washed their hands, how do you or we know that Milan or Inter arent as dirty as Juve you dont so its not right to jump to conclusions clearly they found the most evidence against Juve. What if tommorow we find a ton of evidence against those others what then?

wear a belt for those pants because this isnt over and I believe this is only the beginning.

[phat]

Phat, you are being delusional here.A milanese conspiracy against juve.You believe that the whole italian football is under Milan's control, conspiring endlessly against anyone related to Juventus.:D

You are right about karma though, and it bit juve in the ass not that long ago.


Well see if Milan get relagated how much you have to say.

[narduch]

Juve weren't scapegoats. They had blood on their hands.

[kaku]

You honestly believe all those key members of italian football do not have anything to do with the cheating in italy give me a break Im sure Milan have recieved favoritism dozens of times, who really is the delusional one here.
Definitely not me.Delusional is anyone who believes there is a conspiracy against juventus and anyone related in one way or another with that club.

If italian football is controlled by A.C Milan how come juve won the title in the previous 2 seasons?Maybe that was "the plan" after all?:rolleyes:

You don't have to be an expert in italian football to know that if there's one club that can not pretend to be a victim that's juve.

Well see if Milan get relagated how much you have to say.
I know that's your dream phat, but get over it cause it's not gonna happen.You'll be back in Serie A next year and hopefully you'll stop being so bitter about Mian.Or at least i hope you will stop.But as far as Milan being relegated again is concerned, i'll repeat that's a dream that will never come true.

Anyway, this issue has been discussed so many times already that it's getting really boring.

[Tifoso]

source (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct2d.html)


hahahahahaha

I am absolutely loving this:D

[malicia]

hahahahahaha

I am absolutely loving this:D

man, i don't understand how y'all can be arguing this garbage.
"nyah, nyah, nyah, your team is bad too"

they're different crimes but they all suck. Just cuz people at Inter were wiretapping illegally doesn't mean Juve (or anyone) is suddenly any better. As fans, we should feel offended by this BS from everyone and what it does to the reputation of Serie A (already soooo high :rolleyes: ).

[deviant]

man, i don't understand how y'all can be arguing this garbage.
"nyah, nyah, nyah, your team is bad too"

they're different crimes but they all suck. Just cuz people at Inter were wiretapping illegally doesn't mean Juve (or anyone) is suddenly any better. As fans, we should feel offended by this BS from everyone and what it does to the reputation of Serie A (already soooo high :rolleyes: ).
I hope your ready to have your ass handed to you this weekend Boca at El Monumental mauahuhahaha

[malicia]

I hope your ready to have your ass handed to you this weekend Boca at El Monumental mauahuhahaha

oooooh, so you support all the teams I hate, not just the 2 on your profile.:D no mames guey, perdera el pinche Boca :p

[deviant]

oooooh, so you support all the teams I hate, not just the 2 on your profile.:D no mames guey, perdera el pinche Boca :p
no me gusta ninguno de los dos pero el Boca me gusta mas