Atletico Madrid want compensation for Maxi injury

[deviant]

Another club vs country battle, I must say it is pretty unfair to Atletico to lend out a player of that calibur to Argentina and returning him broken. Hopefully FIFA will either compensate them or let them sign a player.

- Atletico Madrid have said they are studying the options available to them to claim compensation for their player Maxi Rodriguez, who sustained a serious injury while on international duty with Argentina during the week.

The forward tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee during Argentina's match with Spain in Murcia on Wednesday and is expected to be out for around six months.

"It doesn't make sense that clubs buy players and pay their salaries so that third parties like FIFA and the national teams can use them," Atletico's majority shareholder Miguel Angel Gil Marin was quoted as saying in sports daily AS on Friday.

"Not only do they not pay for them, but they don't want to know anything about cases such as this."

Atletico are upset over the state of the pitch upon which Spain and Argentina played. From early on in the game the newly-laid surface came up easily and puffs of sand accompanied kicks and tackles.

Maxi suffered his injury as he appeared to stumble over a clod of earth.

Atletico coach Javier Aguirre has said Maxi told him neither national coach was happy with the pitch, while Spanish media reported Real Murcia did not intend to use the pitch until mid-November.

"We have called a meeting with the football league for Monday. We have lost a key player to an injury sustained on an unplayable pitch," Gil Marin said.

"Between the amortised cost for the player and his salary we are set to lose around six million euros. After he'd had a great World Cup we had just doubled his salary.

"We are going to do all we can to claim compensation from the Argentine Federation from the Spanish Federation and from FIFA."

Belgian club Charleroi have, with the backing of Europe's richest clubs through the G14, already brought a similar case against FIFA seeking compensation for a player injured on international duty.

That case was referred to the European Court of Justice in May.

"We will propose that federations who take league players should pay a proportion of the costs for the player," said Gil Marin.

"For injuries, we will demand that they take out an insurance policy that guarantees payment of the player's costs during the period they are laid low."

[DriveShot]

They won't get an apology let alone a dime.

[barcalove]

Another club vs country battle, I must say it is pretty unfair to Atletico to lend out a player of that calibur to Argentina and returning him broken. Hopefully FIFA will either compensate them or let them sign a player.
especially for a stupid friendly... shit like this pisses me off so much. atletico were shaping up to potentially be a top 3 side if things go their way this season and maxi in his current form is essential to their success.

[Dirtycheat]

maxi isnt a slave that atheltico own, i hate it when teams ask for compensation for players becoming injured, its part of the parcel of being an international, it happens.

man utd threatened to do it, newcastle are reported to wanting to sue the English FA about it and it is just rediculous. people sue for anything nowadays (ie. for drying a poodle in a miccrowave, or the one about the woman who left her camper-van on cruise control on the highway and made a sandwich)
now its finding its way in football.

[deviant]

maxi isnt a slave that atheltico own, i hate it when teams ask for compensation for players becoming injured, its part of the parcel of being an international, it happens.

man utd threatened to do it, newcastle are reported to wanting to sue the English FA about it and it is just rediculous. people sue for anything nowadays (ie. for drying a poodle in a miccrowave, or the one about the woman who left her camper-van on cruise control on the highway and made a sandwich)
now its finding its way in football.
I'd like you hear you say that if Rooney and C.Ronaldo sustained season long injuries especially to a Friendly.

[barcalove]

I'd like you hear you say that if Rooney and C.Ronaldo sustained season long injuries especially to a Friendly.
exactly... i can understand a qualifier that means something, because the guys are playing for the nation's pride.. but a meaningless friendly? i understand that these south american players have to play these friendlies in order for the coach to evaluate the team and get a feel for his players. in many ways the big south american national sides have a very difficult time with their squads due to almost their entire contingent of players being based thousands of miles from their base. that is most likely why brasil and argentina play so many friendlies in europe to somewhat placate the club sides and the players.

its a tough situation because they really have to take the friendlies seriously in order to prepare their teams for the forthcoming tournaments (i guess its copa america coming up for argentina). but its just shit that players will get fucked up in a friendly... what to do about it? who the hell knows...

[Kyle_R]

It is not anyones specific fault that this happens, but it is a huge shame for the clubs that suffer from it. But maybe im just being bias because im a Newcastle fan.

I mean, spending £16m (club record) on a world class striker that we so desperately need and losing him for almost a whole season, and then just as he finally gets back to full fitness he is playing in the world cup and from that gets injured for the whole upcoming season. Newcastle have effectively been heavily punished for their willingness to replace Shearer with one of the best possible replacement they could have got. Its a shame Newcastle will not get anything for their troubles, but then again why should they when nobody is to blame.

[barcalove]

It is not anyones specific fault that this happens, but it is a huge shame for the clubs that suffer from it. But maybe im just being bias because im a Newcastle fan.

I mean, spending £16m (club record) on a world class striker that we so desperately nedded and losing him for almost a whole season, and then just as he finally gets back to full fitness he is playing in the world cup and from that gets injured for the whole upcoming season. Newcastle have effectively been heavily punished for their willingness to replace Shearer with one of the best possible replacement they could have got. Its a shame Newcastle will not get anything for their troubles, but then again why should they when nobody is to blame.
also have to wonder... what other job in the world can you get injured and not be able to do your job for nearly 2 years yet still get paid an exorbitant amount of money? ain't footie great ;)

[akd]

I think Atletico de Madrid should investigated the condition of the pitch that their "asset" was going to play on. I think both Basile and Aragones said that they were not wanting to play the friendly because of the condition of the pitch. Unfortunately it was Maxi who had to pay the price, but it could have well been any player out there.

[Pizziesta]

hhm.. this is their best year.. heard torres telling that this is the year for what they were planning last few seasons.. and that's why he didnt leave and stuff..
Unfortunately it seems Atheltico will lose Maxi in their proccess..

Also most of the Atheltico players aint play/used to play International matches.. so they haven't got used to send players away before.. eheh.. :D.. could be one of the reasons why they scream a lot.. heh..

[Dirtycheat]

I'd like you hear you say that if Rooney and C.Ronaldo sustained season long injuries especially to a Friendly.

lets nope that ever happens but you can quote me on what i said if you want

[Pizziesta]

Not only it was a Friendly match.. but also the poor pitch condition, is a factor too.. no wonder why Atheltico complaining...

[BarcaRulz]

IMO compensation is going too far. What i believe should happen is that for friendly games during the season, a club should be allowed to make a choice about their player. Since they are the ones who pay and pretty much 'own' the player, they should also have the right to allow/disalow/limit his performance with the national team in friendly events.

This was already a packed week for teams who play in their league and in European competition as well, and to add to that a friendly was always going to be tough. With choice the club can assess the situation, and if they find that letting the player off to play a friendly is ok, then it should be allowed, if they feel they don't want to risk it at the particular time, then they shouldn't accept, easy as that.

As for 'real' international competition, in that case the club should have no saying. If a player gets injured while representing his country in a competition it would just be an unfortunate event. You don't hear the national sides complaning when their nationals get injured with a club, and i know they don't pay them, but that doesn't mean they aren't as important to the team. Injuries are part of the game, compensation is just too dum an idea, and it would raise WAY too much comotion anyway, who pays? how much? how to decide? which injury gives you more money? long term effects payments? etc etc etc...

[chauchey]

especially for a stupid friendly... shit like this pisses me off so much. atletico were shaping up to potentially be a top 3 side if things go their way this season and maxi in his current form is essential to their success.
I really think its unfair that these players are payed by club when they are playing for country. I totally think that whomever they are playing for, should be paying them. Simple as that. If they get hurt playing for country, i think its only fair that the country's insurance policy pay for it...or the country itself.

I think its only fair.

[oceanic]

add the fact that most injuries build up slowly over the seasons over the extreme use of the body, and are not due to just one match, but rather the whole season. You have the clubs just as much responsible for those injuries, more than the nations in fact. So where do you draw the line with those injuries. It becomes a very grey. Owen's hamstring injury, rooney's metartarsal injury, these are due to stress built up over the season or partially from old injuries. The blame for most of which lies with the clubs themselves rather than the national side. So with such injuries the guilty party in fact is the club side.

Look at ronaldo's injury at inter, comes back after a year out, and first game first 10 minutes back, rips the whole thing open again, whose fault was that? the clubs, but what if he had been playing a national competition does it become the national sides fault? Of course not, but clubs would have you believe yes. It all becomes a grey area.

This is the way i see it, we live suppsedly in a free world. if players want to play for their country that is their personal right, if clubs don't want them playing for their country they should talk to the player not the FA and have it in their contract. If a player gets injured playing kick about with his friends, are clubs going to go look for a payout from the footballers friends? No of course not. So why look for it from the national side? If the player doesn't want to play for his national side, fair enough, so be it. If he does, then clubs either put it in his contract he isn't allowed to and agree with the player, or they agree with the player to let him play. It's a players and the clubs private thing to sort out.

The fact is the big clubs have found a way of getting the FA's paying for their players, and shouldering their costs, and they are spinning things to make it seem like a player playing for his country is the country's FA's fault. When it is the players perogative to play for his country.

What i don't agree with is the FA being able to force a player to play for his country (like the makelele incident) which is disgusting and is slavery in my opinion when you force people to do somethig when they don't want to, or you punish them otherwise.

[chauchey]

Thats a very valid point Oceanic...but it still remains that the player was injured doing something other than playing for his club. How much of that injury is the clubs/countries responsibility can be discovered by an indipendant doctors study, plus an interview with the player.

I'm sure, when millions of dollars are on the line, that one of those would be done. :rolleyes: At least, i know i would...

[eldiego10]

I really think its unfair that these players are payed by club when they are playing for country. I totally think that whomever they are playing for, should be paying them. Simple as that. If they get hurt playing for country, i think its only fair that the country's insurance policy pay for it...or the country itself.

I think its only fair.


What will that do to the poor countires? Will Mali have to drop Diarra fearing injuries? Although im a Man Utd fan the big clubs annoy me in these issues.

As said here injuries can come in any situation and as a result of lots of things. Its sad if Rooney gets a serious knock in a meaningless friendly and the club would suffer as a result. But the internationals is a big thing in football. It creates interest that benefits the clubs. Lots of pepole would like their country winning a trophy than their clubs. The countries also have a hand in the early stages of the players developments. Its only right they dont have to pay in my opinion.

The big clubs earn more money than ever and have big squads. Tv deals and so on. No matter how much they get though the general football fans are getting screwed. Hard working pepole can no longer go to the stadium with the prices rising and you have to pay extra to get the games on tv. Football is the biggest and most popular game but i fear if the big clubs continue only thinking short term they might shooting themselves in the foot. There might be a border soon beeing crossed. Thats why i think compensation is a bad thing and i will be ashamed if United really go on in this matter.