Hilo del Real Madrid - HALA MADRID CAMPEON! *spoilers* [Archive] - Page 9

Pizziesta

19-05-2007, 05:55 PM

SQUAD LIST
GOALKEEPERS: Casillas, Diego López & Casilla.
DEFENDERS: Ramos, Cicinho, Cannavaro, Helguera, Marcelo, Mejía, Roberto Carlos & Torres.
MIDFIELDERS: Guti, Gago, Diarra, Robinho, Beckham, Higuaín & Reyes.
FORWARDS: Raúl & Van Nistelrooy.

My guess is;

--------- I k e r C a s i l l a s ---------
Ramos ---- Canna ---- Helguera ---- RC
---------------- Diarra ----------------
-- Beckham ----- Guti ------ Robinho --
------------ Raul ---------------------
--------------------- Ruud ------------

We need to put more pressure on Barca before their match. A win, with more than 3 goal deficit would really please Madrid fans, as a revenge.

DriveShot

19-05-2007, 06:45 PM

I don't think Roberto Carlos will start. Torres has proven himself on both ends of the pitch.

rahul_jain13

19-05-2007, 11:44 PM

I don't think Roberto Carlos will start. Torres has proven himself on both ends of the pitch.

plus the fact that hez leaving at the end of the season..(altho at the end capello takes the decision)

Lunchbox

20-05-2007, 01:21 AM

Yeah with Emerson not starting I wouldn't be surprised to see Torres is in the lineup. Shows what a backflip the team has made when I'm disappointed Emerson may not be on :)

Maybe Gago if he is ok instead of Guti so Capello can maintain his double pivot.

wong_ma

20-05-2007, 01:27 AM

awww...no emerson...

i think r carlos will start...but might come off half way for torres...

Lunchbox

20-05-2007, 12:47 PM

------------------------Casillas------------------------
Ramos-------Helguera-----------Cannavaro----Torres---
-------------------------Diarra------------------------
-Beckham----------------Guti---------------------Raul-
----------Van the Man-----------Higuain----------------

I wouldn't mind playing something like this. Strong defensive line, but with enough creativity midfield/up front. I guess we will see soon enough what he decides to go with. Hala Madrid :D

shreyas

20-05-2007, 02:09 PM

Since reyes is playing well..i think i would have actually started him instead of raul..especially since he can take on players as well as play as a striker too..raul can always be brought on later depending on how the match progresses..

Pizziesta

20-05-2007, 03:43 PM

YAY! We're still the leaders! Awesome match!

chiz187

20-05-2007, 07:00 PM

another last minute winner.. i was breaking into a sweat there when uche scored that second goal. :) that goal might have won the league for madrid. sensational.

shreyas

20-05-2007, 07:06 PM

Another inspired substitution by Capello..first it was guti..then it was higuain..then reyes and today higuain again..woah..!!:eek:

Pizziesta

20-05-2007, 07:21 PM

Another inspired substitution by Capello..first it was guti..then it was higuain..then reyes and today higuain again..woah..!!:eek:
He just put all of his triumphs out when things go bad. I ain't wonder if i hear Calderon had a heart attack. ;)

r7raul

20-05-2007, 07:23 PM

He just put all of his triumphs out when things go bad. I ain't wonder if i hear Calderon had a heart attack. ;)

:D :D

Pizziesta

20-05-2007, 08:01 PM

:D :D
Just don't waste your laughs though they are free. Keep them available for the league celebrations. :p

r7raul

20-05-2007, 08:10 PM

Pizziesta

20-05-2007, 08:21 PM

hahaha that's right, dear Pizziesta! :D
To be honest, I worry about the threat from Sevilla more than the threat from Barca, somehow I see Sevilla is very dangerous, why the hell that team just keep winning and winning and never get tired.
Anyway, as long as we keep our win,we don't care the rest!
From, now on, only three points from each game will make us the Champions. we can't expect anyone to fail. Nobody will fail.

Sevilla's momentum will carry them to win the rest of the games. Now, that barca found their lucky touches back, i guess the same with them too. So, we cannot fail at any level. I'm really happy that we're on top. Else, we would have to wait like beggars to see others failing. :p
The fixture that scared me most is the one against Zaragoza. Hope our former friend Cesar will leak few goals for us. :p

!Hala Madrid!

r7raul

20-05-2007, 08:37 PM

You are right again :p
We can't expect other teams to drop their points at this last stage of La Liga to bring us becoming the champion, either Barca, Sevilla or even Vallencia. We should do and must do, is to depend on ourself, only! There are 3 games left, what I worry is that we are so easy to receive goals (any suggestion of poor defenders?) and we just win at the very last minutes (yes, it is the reflect of our will and united team works, but how about the another sides, I mean, can we expect to win the last 3 games by 1 goals difference at 89' or 90' minute like those matchs? it is more exciting, of course! I do enjoy! but is it better to decide the match earlier)!

Lunchbox

20-05-2007, 11:06 PM

Another inspired substitution by Capello..first it was guti..then it was higuain..then reyes and today higuain again..woah..!!:eek:

Yeah now if he can be inspired enough to not play fuc&@ing Ramos and Canna together in the middle we might actually be sound in the backline

wong_ma

20-05-2007, 11:17 PM

is it just me...or has the pas efw games been very difficult for real madrid...just looking at the scoreline...

sevilla 3-2
osasuna 4-3
recreativo 3-2...
odd

DriveShot

20-05-2007, 11:23 PM

As long as we are taking 3 points is all that matters right now.

The table didnt really change this matchday. 2 more finals!

!HALA MADRID!

bennmartin

20-05-2007, 11:56 PM

As long as we are taking 3 points is all that matters right now.

The table didnt really change this matchday. 2 more finals!

!HALA MADRID!

3 more. we are starting to get lucky. it makes me nervous because it shows the heart and character but we need to put some teams away before the luck stops. we had so many chances (usually due to beckham's fantastic match). carlos is the hero on this one with an excellent effort from higuain. god, its tight up the top of the table.

Rev

21-05-2007, 12:56 AM

deviant

21-05-2007, 01:00 AM

After what I saw Soldado do today I think hes ready to play 1st team for us

barca

21-05-2007, 01:00 AM

6-0 guys and madrid again escaped with their lives this weekend. that kinda luck will runout just soon

DriveShot

21-05-2007, 01:01 AM

3 more. we are starting to get lucky. it makes me nervous because it shows the heart and character but we need to put some teams away before the luck stops. we had so many chances (usually due to beckham's fantastic match). carlos is the hero on this one with an excellent effort from higuain. god, its tight up the top of the table.

Oh yeah, forgot about Depor. Keep those Barca trash comments to your own thread. We're still on top of the table. Barca finally get a good result and he thinks it will turn everything around.

barca

21-05-2007, 01:13 AM

Oh yeah, forgot about Depor. Keep those Barca trash comments to your own thread. We're still on top of the table. Barca finally get a good result and he thinks it will turn everything around.

and what do u think madrid divine intervention comebacks are great performances :cool: when ur team ceans the gutters with a pressure cooker of a game like TALK. until then...... keep off our threads and ill definately do:rolleyes:

Phenom

21-05-2007, 01:28 AM

6-0 guys and madrid again escaped with their lives this weekend. that kinda luck will runout just soon

you make your own luck;)

Lunchbox

21-05-2007, 02:02 AM

I think Capello ought to play his backline and DMs like this with the remaining 3 matches:

Ramos - Helguera - Cannavaro - Torres/Carlos
Emerson - Diarra

This will offer us the most stability at the back. This is the most defensively sound line up it can be with our squad. Emerson has been a beast lately and I always liked Diarra since his arrival. With Emerson and Diarra there, Carlos can roam freely but having Torres there instead of Carlos allows the backline to be more protected, so that will be up to Capello whether he wants a more attacking backline or a more balanced backline. Ramos and Cannavaro just don't click, nor does he and Helguera, so it is best if Capello sticks to Helguera and Cannavaro.

Here Here! How many games before Capello realises not to play Ramos in the middle. He has been our best back on the right both defensively and with supply to the forwards and why someone would want to lose that and exchange it for shaky central defending is beyond me.

Beck's was MotM for me in the recreativo game, I was really impressed with him and we easily could have locked that game out before the 1st half was over with his constant supply.

3 more finals to go :D Anyone would think Barca don't want us to win, with the message they sent us from the Athletico game ;)

EDIT: lol, i only just realised Beckham got a yellow for yelling and threatening the player who kicked him in the balls, and the other guy gets off scott free! Hopefully the incident is brought up and he gets what he deserves.

DriveShot

21-05-2007, 02:03 AM

barca

21-05-2007, 03:06 AM

I don't control the other madrid supporters but from what I've seen in the barca thread everyone is being civil not trying to take the piss out of you barca guys stuck in 2nd.

Posting in another club supporters thread is one thing, but just trying to get everyone riled up is another.
and how the F**k is stating the obvious getting people riled up:cool: i merely mentioned facts:mad: i dont see barca fans ng repping madrid fans for posting comments on the our thread

DriveShot

21-05-2007, 03:16 AM

and how the F**k is stating the obvious getting people riled up:cool: i merely mentioned facts:mad: i dont see barca fans ng repping madrid fans for posting comments on the our thread

So you think if I come into the Barca thread saying how todays match against Athletico was a mere fluke and you guys will go back to your self-imploding ways next week, that I wouldn't get neg repped? You're having a laugh.

barca

21-05-2007, 03:23 AM

So you think if I come into the Barca thread saying how todays match against Athletico was a mere fluke and you guys will go back to your self-imploding ways next week, that I wouldn't get neg repped? You're having a laugh.

just when did i say anything like that. do read my original comment. i mentioned the score of both games and said that madrid were lucky, which is plain true. thats a fact mate and most the madrid fans seem to agree with it so if the facts can get u neg repped than whats the use of this forum and the threads dude. and about 6-0 being a fluke. last time a checked scoring 1 or 2 was but 6 i dont think the probabilities of statistics dnt back that up!!! :cool:

Lunchbox

21-05-2007, 03:27 AM

All I read was you making a remark that was obviously being made to cause trouble then when someone sounded you out for doing exactly that you start calling people names and acting like a petulant child.

Anyone is welcome to post in the thread and discuss the game and Real in general, but don't be an arrogant smartarse about it and act with a bit of maturity and you will receive the same in return regardless of who you support and want to see win the league.

bennmartin

21-05-2007, 03:58 AM

Rev

21-05-2007, 04:29 AM

hey boys~

lets not troll the barca forum and they wont come here. its always been good that way with us and them. in the EPL forums, you have to sift through too much shit-talking just to get to footy discussion and i dont want that to happen over here.

in any event, hopefully that is done with.

I wanted to talk about this too but I thought I was the only person who thought so. We shouldn't troll Barca forums anymore so they won't intervene with ours, end of story. I hate pointing fingers but I think wong ma and Pizzesta has been roaming into the Barca forums and stirring some shit up. They may be posting in a civilized manner, but whenever Real fans mixes with Barca fans, shit just starts, so I think none of us should be going into their thread posting again. Like benn says, I would hate our thread to turn into a hate thread like the EPL ones and if Real faithfuls starts roaming into Barca's main thread again, I forecast a spam fest between the rivaling fans.

PS: Oh, by the way, I hate not to be cocky about the results but we haven't won the league yet. The league can still be in Sevilla and Barca hands, so I don't think we should be cocky until we win it, but that's just my personal opinion, didn't meant to be lecturing anybody, hope none of you here take it the wrong way.

wong_ma

21-05-2007, 04:35 AM

I wanted to talk about this too but I thought I was the only person who thought so. We shouldn't troll Barca forums anymore so they won't intervene with ours, end of story. I hate pointing fingers but I think wong ma and Pizzesta has been roaming into the Barca forums and stirring some shit up. They may be posting in a civilized manner, but whenever Real fans mixes with Barca fans, shit just starts, so I think none of us should be going into their forums posting again. Like benn says, I would hate our thread to turn into a hate thread like the EPL ones and if Real faithfuls starts roaming into Barca's main thread again, I forecast a spam fest between the rivaling fans.

PS: Oh, by the way, I hate not to be cocky about the results but we haven't won the league yet. The league can still be in Sevilla and Barca hands, so I don't think we should be cocky until we win it, but that's just my personal opinion, didn't meant to be lecturing anybody, hope none of you here take it the wrong way.

well...i have to agree with you...i shouldnt tread into there anymore even though i dont...

but cappello ought to use that lineup that REV put up. its the best one we can fit and sergio ramos can go back to his original position

Silas

21-05-2007, 06:33 AM

Isn't Ramos' original position CB?

Rev

21-05-2007, 07:09 AM

Isn't Ramos' original position CB?

Nope, Ramos originally plays on the right.

bennmartin

21-05-2007, 07:21 AM

correct. both spain and real plan to make him a center back because he is so good in the air and strong off the ball. the potential is there but sometimes he gambles and fouls a bit too much to be a steady enough CB in the middle for me. if he was paired with a taller, powerful partner (think a rio or terry) then he might do better. canna is too similiar in height and style.

Pizziesta

21-05-2007, 07:21 AM

Who else is thinking Roberto Soldado can play in our first 11, next season?

Rev

21-05-2007, 07:57 AM

Who else is thinking Roberto Soldado can play in our first 11, next season?

I don't follow Osasuna so I don't know how he is doing. But any how, we still have too much quality strikers in our squad and I think it'll be too competitve for Soldado. To be honest, I think he'll be better off looking at a possible to transfer to other smaller teams. I certainly won't play Soldado over Robinho (even though he'll play on flanks next season) or Ruud in the striker position, and Raul is an untouchable. I know Soldado's record has been great in Castilla but so did Portillo. Sometimes, players just can't make the switch from league B to league A. To top it off, almost every year we're linked with a top class striker. This year it's Tevez, as much as I don't want him to come because of our overflowing number of strikers, I don't see him forever at West Ham so he is a possible candidate to come to Real. And if Tevez does come, Soldado will probably be the 5th choice of striker. To sum it up, I definately think it is better for Soldado to transfer to another team.

wong_ma

21-05-2007, 08:38 AM

i dont want tevez...im pretty sure you are all with me...but i m suprised that someone hasnt noticed his abilities...(as in team...)

bennmartin

21-05-2007, 08:50 AM

Who else is thinking Roberto Soldado can play in our first 11, next season?

hes gotten better and better as the season has gone on. i'm not sure about the starting 11 but i think we should bring him back rather than going after another high priced striker.

Pizziesta

21-05-2007, 11:54 AM

hes gotten better and better as the season has gone on. i'm not sure about the starting 11 but i think we should bring him back rather than going after another high priced striker.
Exactly! Also, if we always keep saying, that Raul is unchangeable and want a big name striker, we will ended up without any good striker. :)

I hope Real Madrid will not buy another striker this summer, but bring back Roberto Soldado, and a good play-maker.

I wish, Schuster is a fan of Soldado. :p

Rev

21-05-2007, 01:21 PM

Exactly! Also, if we always keep saying, that Raul is unchangeable and want a big name striker, we will ended up without any good striker. :)

I hope Real Madrid will not buy another striker this summer, but bring back Roberto Soldado, and a good play-maker.

I wish, Schuster is a fan of Soldado. :p

Since we're no Socios, no matter what we do, Raul is indispensible whether you like it or not. No matter what we do, Real will always be linked with a high quality striker. We will not end up without any quality striker as we have too much of it already as of now. I can assure you, we'll be linked with more no matter we like it or not. To top it off, all the strikers Real bought in the past few seasons were proven and have shown quality, at least for their previous clubs. I hate to burst your bubble Pizziesta, but I seriously think Soldado will be better off at another club if he wants playing time. I'm not doubting his abilities, but it'll be just extremely difficult for him to break into the starting 11. He'll just be another fringe player at Real, warming the bench and playing in Copa del Ray at max. I do hope he can prove me wrong though as I think we should spend our transfer funds on someone who isn't a striker.

PortugalOle7

21-05-2007, 01:25 PM

Another heart-attack game yesterday. Higuain provided the magic again this week. Gets the header and runs down the pitch like he got shot out of a cannon. Classy finishing from Roberto Carlos to lift the ball over the keeper. I have not seen Real Madrid play like this in years! They certainly want this Liga badly.

I'm certainly with those who want Soldado back at the club. I've always liked Soldado and it would be nice if Real actually kept a home-grown player around. He's got great pace and a nose for goal. I really hope Real don't go after another high-priced forward.

Volta

21-05-2007, 01:31 PM

Yeah I also wish to see him back.If Nistelgol ever retires,then the experience that Soldado have from loans might be a stepping stone to fill his position.

bennmartin

21-05-2007, 02:07 PM

soldado is a still a young lad and who knows, it might just take a local boy to steal a bit of playing time from raul.

watched the match again and a few things i noticed:

becks, man of the match. not only his pinpoint crosses but his delivery all over the field, especially in tight spaces on the ground. he even played a big part in the final goal. i do find it funny though that he can whip in a perfect ball into the box but has trouble lobbing the keeper.

robinho had another brilliant match, especially early on. if he had just that little bit more quality in his end product, he could be one of the best. he lacks that final shot sometimes that players like henry put in so effortlessly.

our dms need to learn to use their head, diarra and gago both have missed some absolute sitters in the box lately. let ruud and robinho show them how its done.

raul actually had a good match overall. he was active and even though, he didnt score, he was working harder this match than i have seen him in the past.

however, bringing on higuain was the right call for sure. that lighting speed....he was the only player we have that could have pulled off that run. another great substitution from capello.

on the second viewing, ramos, canna, and even casillas looked really confused at times. they were fine most of the match but then suddenly, they would drop communication. both goals were actually ramos's fault. torres had a blistering match defensively. he bailed out both of our cbs countless times. i still think we need to get helguera in there, especially if we are protecting a lead.

DriveShot

21-05-2007, 03:54 PM

vai2die4

21-05-2007, 03:57 PM

great game last night guys.. congrats.. i think you have the league in ur pockets..

kidujp

21-05-2007, 04:43 PM

great game last night guys.. congrats.. i think you have the league in ur pockets..

No doubt about that, but Barcelona has plenty of pick-pockets :p :D :D :D So better watch out.

I think this will all come down to if Real can win against zaragoza. This week Zaragoza will probably lose to Sevilla and with Getafe playing celta and gimnastic in the last 2 matches and Atletico just getting a booster shot on their ass and having 3 easy games, they need points from the Madrid match. Also Getafe will need some points from their next match against us to put pressure on zaragoza. So if we win this week, there'll be tons of pressure on Madrid for the second last week and the title will be decided then. How good are you at performing, soaking in all that pressure ?

DriveShot

21-05-2007, 07:17 PM

Zaragosa don't have much to play for, they're already in the UEFA cup and their spot is practically guaranteed.

Pressure? Do you remember the crisis at the Bernabeu the media portrayed earlier on this season? Cassano, Ronaldo, and Diarra all speaking out against Capello. Going down 2-0 and 3-1 against Espanyol to win? This team has show time and time again that they will never give up and just play better when the pressure is on.

I say I hope all the teams leave everything on the pitch, this is going to be a very exciting 3 weeks.

bennmartin

22-05-2007, 12:44 AM

I know Roberto Carlos is a legend and he did score the winner but he's a defensive liability right now. With 3 finals left we can't mess around. The backline should be:

Torres------------Ramos
----Canna---Helguera---

and that's that.

the only problem is that because of cap's system, carlos (and cicinho for that matter) have been vital in our attack, pushing the ball forward and keep the opposition on the back foot by putting in some excellent crosses. you are right in that carlos can be somewhat of a defensive liabilty though on the counter attack. its a tough call. it might be a situation where we need to start torres and bring on carlos if we need some goals.

the thing is, the first half we completely shut them down but didnt convert our chances. if we put away those balls in the beginning we could have had a 6-0 score as well but the longer you let a team hang around by not scoring, the defense starts to slip.

Rev

22-05-2007, 12:55 AM

the only problem is that because of cap's system, carlos (and cicinho for that matter) have been vital in our attack, pushing the ball forward and keep the opposition on the back foot by putting in some excellent crosses. you are right in that carlos can be somewhat of a defensive liabilty though on the counter attack. its a tough call. it might be a situation where we need to start torres and bring on carlos if we need some goals.

the thing is, the first half we completely shut them down but didnt convert our chances. if we put away those balls in the beginning we could have had a 6-0 score as well but the longer you let a team hang around by not scoring, the defense starts to slip.

If Emerson and Diarra plays in DM, we'll be defensively sound to field Carlos. I don't know, I have a bad feeling about these last 3 games. If we don't win all 3 games, I see the title going to Barca as they have the easier fixtures than Sevilla and Real.

DriveShot

22-05-2007, 01:10 AM

Its not just Roberto Carlos getting caught on the counter-attack, he just isn't looking as sharp as he used to in defense. Cicinho is a liability because he goes forward too often. Torres has been playing excellent in defense and attack as the left full back so I think we should keep playing him there. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Lunchbox

22-05-2007, 02:14 AM

I don't mind fielding R.C as while he is a defensive liability at times, I wouldn't put him in the same catagory as Cicinho. I think R.C will play the last few games if only because he is out of here at the end of the season.

Hopefully things will be a bit more sound at the back with Emerson coming back and Helguera and Canna being played. I'd like to continue seeing Torres for Cicinho though :)

wong_ma

22-05-2007, 02:50 AM

as long as we win...and barca dont...i ll be cheering...

im leaving these forums for good...too much cristism...

my heart will always be with madrid and their supporters..

nikk86

22-05-2007, 10:09 AM

as long as we win...and barca dont...i ll be cheering...

im leaving these forums for good...too much cristism...

my heart will always be with madrid and their supporters..

WTF? dude, don't be so sensitive, there will always be people critical of your views, and people who support you, leaving is a poor option.

shreyas

22-05-2007, 10:41 AM

I swear..talk about taking the most extreme step possible..dude..just ignore the people..or argue if its constructive..dont leave!!

r7raul

22-05-2007, 11:21 AM

That's right, wong-ma! We are here with you, stick with your own opinion and don't care the rest. Together we are champion, Real Madrid forever!

shakuni

22-05-2007, 11:51 AM

yea man, dont leave....some people dunno how to argue, why leave ?

look at me...i am already being bashed around with negative reps ...but i cant give a rats ..... abt any1 ;)

just stay along....

Lunchbox

22-05-2007, 12:49 PM

I know most people here would already check the Real' site often, but in case you don't there are a couple of awesome interviews up with Roberto Carlos and Diarra.

The R.C. interview is really good as he is pretty frank with a lot of his responses.

Roberto Carlos Interview (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma39719.htm)

Mahamadou Diarra Interview (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma39711.htm)

Enjoy :)

macro

22-05-2007, 11:13 PM

Just wanted to say i watched the last 3 Real games and it was fv<king awesome, if they come from behind and win one more time i will guzzle a broom. :D
And sorry but Canavaro sucks big time, Metzelder will easily get is spot.

Rev

23-05-2007, 12:31 AM

as long as we win...and barca dont...i ll be cheering...

im leaving these forums for good...too much cristism...

my heart will always be with madrid and their supporters..

Good luck wong_ma, hope you'll change your mind and come back to this forum as we do have people who are by your side (us :) ).

funkdoctorspock

23-05-2007, 12:42 AM

Silas

23-05-2007, 12:44 AM

P.S.bye, bye munna/yogi/chizard/luckiest... oops, I mean wong ma :rolleyes:
He is not munna, is he? He registered in August 2006. :confused:

Rev

23-05-2007, 01:30 AM

P.S.bye, bye munna/yogi/chizard/luckiest... oops, I mean wong ma :rolleyes:

How do you know he is them? And what is wrong with them? (I don't browse the whole forum, only stick to some particular threads so I haven't bump into those users before)

DriveShot

23-05-2007, 01:52 AM

I take it the confidence level here is at an all time high for this season. Basically it's win and if Barca wins, you win the league due to head to head match ups?

What are your chances against Deportivo and how did you fair against them last time?

If we win our last 3 matches we'll win the league no matter what happens with Barca or Sevilla.

Depor used to be a very good side. They won the league back in '99 but now they're just a mid table side, this year they're doing worse than usual.

We lost to Depor 2-0 earlier this season but the Riazor isn't a fun place to go and we're definitely not the same team anymore.

shreyas

23-05-2007, 05:31 AM

Yeah,but it will be tough..every team in spain however bad they play always seem to raise their game up when they play against real madrid..and im sure that would be the same with deportivo..

chauchey

23-05-2007, 06:11 AM

reputations are made on beating any of the major teams. especially when you are expected to loose, you can play pretty loose. Always hard.

Pizziesta

23-05-2007, 05:49 PM

reputations are made on beating any of the major teams. especially when you are expected to loose, you can play pretty loose. Always hard.
Tell me Athletico weren't the favorites to beat Barca.. ;)

drachen

24-05-2007, 09:35 AM

Angel Torres - President of getafe.

“Nothing could make me happier than beating Barça and giving the Liga to Madrid”

He also happens to be a Real Madrid socio :p

Pizziesta

24-05-2007, 12:58 PM

Angel Torres! Then why heck did you beat us? :confused: :D :D

Anyways, wish you will be very happy end of the weekend. :p

Maki Navaja

24-05-2007, 01:41 PM

The whole Getafe club started (years ago, of course) as a Real Madrid supporters club. It has since grown (duh) but still maintains very strong ties to RM.

shreyas

24-05-2007, 01:46 PM

Yeah..they support real madrid on every week other than when they play real(duh)! :P

dimz

24-05-2007, 04:59 PM

WTF? this is allowed in Spain? How is this not considered match fixing?

Real Madrid's decision to offer Zaragoza money two rounds ahead of their visit to La Romareda has left Barcelona and Sevilla crying foul.
Controversy As Real Madrid Offer Zaragoza Money

While offering teams financial incentives to perform well (as opposed to playing poorly) is not outlawed, Real Madrid's decision to do the same with Real Zaragoza is raising eyebrows in Barcelona and Seville, according to Sport.

The incentive is being handed for Zaragoza to beat Sevilla this weekend, and technically not for the match against Real Madrid, it needs to be clarified.

However, the idea clearly is that should Zaragoza win and secure a Uefa Cup berth, they would be less intense against Los Merengues in the following round.

Roberto Carlos had made Madrid's objective abundantly clear on Tuesday, speaking to AS.

"I want Zaragoza to defeat Sevilla next Sunday and qualify for next year's UEFA Cup, because if they don't we will have a tough game in Zaragoza the following weekend," he had said.

Barcelona have declared that they will not be offering any 'black bags' and instead count on the teams' imperative to do their best no matter what.

Meanwhile Real Madrid have chosen to go ahead with it, and have already handed Getafe - who have little to play for but pride - a massive incentive should they get a result at the Camp Nou on Saturday.

Source (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=311084&PageIndex=1)

dbzclips2

24-05-2007, 05:36 PM

WTF? They're allowed to pay a team to play well?

WTF?

r7raul

24-05-2007, 06:03 PM

Yeah, it is legal in Spain. Barca did it, Real did it and everyone did it or benefit from it :D

Pizziesta

24-05-2007, 06:23 PM

..that is a kinda funny thing do.. isn't it? :p

I guess, Real Madrid will not forget to pay, Espanyol, Getafe, Nastic!!!! :D
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Anyways,

Kaka Wants Real Madrid Move - Robinho

Real Madrid forward Robinho has revealed that Kaka told him he would love to move to Real Madrid, should Milan allow him to. He also spoke about his own future.

"I am scoring important goals and I hope to continue in the same vein until the end of the season," he said, speaking on Marca Radio.

"The year did not begin well. I was not happy.

"But in football, things can change very quickly, and with my dedication, I have shown that I have the desire to play.

"I did not say that I would leave Real Madrid at end of the season. Also, things have changed, and I am happy here. I want to see out my contract, and showcase my football."

Speaking of Kaka, he had some comments that will interest most football fans, one way or the other.

"I do not know if Kaká will sign [for Real Madrid], because he is the champion of Europe," said the Brazilian.

"What I do know is that he likes Real Madrid a lot, and speaks very well about our club.

"He has told me that he would be delighted to play here, but that it is very difficult that Milan let him leave."

"Real Madrid would win a lot with Kaká," he continued. "I am sure that if he wins the Golden Ball, he will be a deserving winner.

"He is just as good off as on the pitch. He is very religious, and very calm."

*** (http://www.goal.com)

opm1s6

24-05-2007, 09:34 PM

they have good taste

Rev that engine, baby!

David Beckham and fellow Real Madrid soccer players take the new Audi models out for a spin at Jarama track on Thursday in Madrid, Spain during the launch of the new Audi R8, A5 and S5.

Becks, 32, and his teammates also rode the sports driving course in in new Audi TT Coupé.

Which of these babies would you like to take out for a spin? Ahem.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/tanique33/6151483_POLFOTO.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/tanique33/6151482_POLFOTO.jpg

Rev

24-05-2007, 10:26 PM

WTF? They're allowed to pay a team to play well?

WTF?

Well, I don't see too much of illegality in paying a team if they play well. It is kind of similar to incentives, gives the team that little boost of playing better. But paying a team to play bad, that is certainly cheating.

they have good taste

I agree, I'm a German car fan myself. I love the German big 3, BMW, Mercedes, and Audi and that S5 is a stunner :eek: .

dbzclips2

25-05-2007, 01:21 AM

Well, I don't see too much of illegality in paying a team if they play well. It is kind of similar to incentives, gives the team that little boost of playing better. But paying a team to play bad, that is certainly cheating..

What if (all of this is hypothetical)...

Zaragoza was already relegated
So, they go to Real Madrid , and say that they will purposefully lose against Barca (if Barca, hypothetically, draw, then Madrid win the League) unless Madrid pay them $X

Is that allowed?

they have good taste

I don't really like Beck's new hairstyle, tbh

Rev

25-05-2007, 04:10 AM

What if (all of this is hypothetical)...

Zaragoza was already relegated
So, they go to Real Madrid , and say that they will purposefully lose against Barca (if Barca, hypothetically, draw, then Madrid win the League) unless Madrid pay them $X

Is that allowed?

I don't really like Beck's new hairstyle, tbh

But no offense, this question is rather pointless IMO because if Zaragoza wants either a draw or a win, Zaragoza alone can't decide a match given if Real paid them not to lose purposefully. Therefore, even if Real pays Zaragoza not to lose on purpose, theres no guarantee that Zaragoza walk away with a draw or a win. If you're asking if that is allowed or not, I wouldn't think it's allowed because that seems to be blackmailing. I guess Real Madrid can sue Zaragoza for blackmailing and go to court or even get Zaragoza relegated to division C. I'm not Spanish and I'm not a lawyer or government officals so I'm not too sure but common sense tells me if Zaragoza threatens to lose purposefully, I think Real can sue Zaragoza or report to the Spanish FA and take proper measures against Zaragoza.

But paying Zaragoza, if they win, is totally a different case IMO, morally at least. It is similar to paying incentives to workers if profits rose. I don't know if Real will get points docked or not but morally, it doesn't seem to be cheating to me. Also, as of today, that is the only source I have seen about Real giving Zaragoza incentives to play better. I would wait until skysports.com reports it, otherwise I'll just ignore it.

shreyas

25-05-2007, 04:34 AM

If stuff like this has been happening for quite a while now and no action has ever been taken there seems no reason why this should be a topic of discussion..real madrid or any other club cannot be punished as well since the league authorities never bothered to stop such things from taking place..personally it doesn't sound right to offer another club money to beat another club..but maybe thats part of traditions there in spain..

realGaurab

25-05-2007, 08:34 AM

As far as I know it, paying incentives to teams to play better has always existed in Spain. But paying teams to play bad and loose is illegal. And its not a bad idea because the lesser teams will get some desperately needed money if they can please the bigger guys. Like for instance, Zaragoza can make some money this week from Real to play against Seville and again next week from Barca to play against Real.

Pizziesta

25-05-2007, 11:12 AM

Forget Zaragoza, Real Madrid should, first win against Deportivo to make its match a crucial. :p

r7raul

25-05-2007, 12:12 PM

Yeah, I guess Barca already offer huge money to Deportivo, then! :D

Pizziesta

25-05-2007, 02:16 PM

Yeah, I guess Barca already offer huge money to Deportivo, then! :D
I hate, Deportivo and specially their ground. :o Hope we beat them 10 - 0.

btw, it seems we ain't gonna tour in the pre-season.. :cool:

shreyas

25-05-2007, 02:30 PM

Pizziesta

25-05-2007, 02:59 PM

Ohhhh..would the absence of a certain David Beckham be one of the reasons for that??not many galacticos left now in the team..don't think they'd be that much of a crowd puller in asia as they used to be..
Could be one of the reasons.. ;) But we will, if we get any of the big guns, we are aiming.

SolarPowered

25-05-2007, 06:50 PM

On the topic of paying money to teams so they play well, Soccernet's Phil Ball has a column this week discussing it: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=432179&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2

Also, they mentioned on this week's Revista that the Spanish FA is considering making it an on-the-books rule saying, say, for the last three or four weeks of the season, teams can pay each other to play better.

But generally, yeah, Spain does things a little differently. Read some of Phil Ball's past columns to understand just how different it is sometimes.

Pizziesta

25-05-2007, 07:18 PM

Phenom

25-05-2007, 11:08 PM

Ohhhh..would the absence of a certain David Beckham be one of the reasons for that??not many galacticos left now in the team..don't think they'd be that much of a crowd puller in asia as they used to be..

who cares about that?...with the "galacticos" gone we can start winning things again;)

Rev

26-05-2007, 02:26 AM

who cares about that?...with the "galacticos" gone we can start winning things again;)

Wrong, lighten up, you are negatively affected by the media. Every big team has a Galactico or two. The media and some really bad luck made the term "Galactico" some what unpleasant to the ears. In a way, Inter is full of Galacticos, so is Chelsea. If the likes of Shevchenko, Ballack, Ibrahimovic, Lampard, Vieira walk into Real few seasons ago with the name they have today, they'd be coined as Galacticos too. But Chelsea and Inter are smart enough not to coin their key players as Galacticos because the media are so negative about the term (not saying they should, since it is a Spanish term any how). Big teams consist of these players, and they are the key to success. You can't have a team full of Salgados or Helgueras. You need Beckhams, Figos, Zidanes, Ronaldos to win. Not necessarily putting them all into the same team, but you gotta have at least one or two of them to carry the team.

Silas

26-05-2007, 02:58 AM

..[..]..and Inter are smart enough not to coin their key players as Galacticos because ..[..]..
Inter players won't ever be called Galacticos. You know why? Milan and Juve are back, and Inter aren't winning shit! :D

Rev

26-05-2007, 03:16 AM

Inter players won't ever be called Galacticos. You know why? Milan and Juve are back, and Inter aren't winning shit! :D

Well, they had a fantastic season at Serie A this year, discounting the fact that Juve went down and some teams got points docked. But they have been fantastic, didn't put a wrong foot in most, if not all games. As much as you don't like them, you should still give credit to Vieira, Figo, Crespo as they are all good players and they can all be coined as Galactico if they ever joined Real during the Perez days (Figo excluded as he was at Real and was coined as a Galactico).

DriveShot

26-05-2007, 05:19 AM

DEPORTIVO CORUÑA SQUAD LIST:

GOALKEEPERS: Casillas and Diego López.

DEFENDERS: Ramos, Cicinho, Cannavaro, Helguera, Marcelo, Roberto Carlos and Torres.

MIDFIELDERS: Guti, Gago, Diarra, Robinho, Beckham, Emerson and Reyes.

FORWARDS: Raúl, Higuaín and Van Nistelrooy.

jorquera

26-05-2007, 06:12 AM

What is Cassano doing these days? Haven't seen much of him lately.

shreyas

26-05-2007, 06:28 AM

What is Cassano doing these days? Haven't seen much of him lately.
Oh..you didn't know?cappello killed him ages ago..:o i don't think we'd see him again in the white of real this season..

jorquera

26-05-2007, 07:12 AM

Oh..you didn't know?cappello killed him ages ago..:o i don't think we'd see him again in the white of real this season..
I see. I know something was between him and Capello.

So will he have a chance next season or will he be sold?

DriveShot

26-05-2007, 07:21 AM

Oh..you didn't know?cappello killed him ages ago..:o i don't think we'd see him again in the white of real this season..

Blood must be spilled to win la liga ;)

I love how Barca fans come in and neg rep me on a post from a week ago in our own damn thread.

Pizziesta

26-05-2007, 08:11 AM

Cassano will be the first one to go out..

neways, i think Capello will go for the usual formation..

------------------ Casillas -------------------
-- Ramos --- Canna ---- Helguera ------ Carlos
---------------- Diarra ---- Emerson ---------
--- Beckham ----------------------- Robinho -
------------------- Raul ---------------------
-------------------------- RVN --------------

Blood must be spilled to win la liga ;)

:D .. nowadays la liga is almost kinda war.. isn't it?

Lunchbox

26-05-2007, 08:19 AM

Capello announced in a press conference today that Gago will start instead of Emerson :eek:

I'd wager we see that same formation that you listed with that one change tho.

Gotta love the rumour machine, Wenger is in Madrid to discuss Baptista and Reyes obviously, and the press have latched on to it and are saying that Cesc is also being discussed now. As much as I would kill for him to don the white, Id say the only talking Arsene would be doing would be telling Mijatovic to fuck off :)

bennmartin

26-05-2007, 10:18 AM

What is Cassano doing these days? Haven't seen much of him lately.

they are saying he has arthritis in his left foot or something. i think they are just trying to have him save face because there is no room for him on the teamsheet.

r7raul

26-05-2007, 05:16 PM

Cassano? I almost forget him :D

Pizziesta

26-05-2007, 07:00 PM

Cassano? I almost forget him :D
His name, only comes up in the injury list. :) sad to see that happening, specially, for a player of his caliber.

DriveShot

26-05-2007, 09:53 PM

Ronaldinho got a red card for kicking out, he'll miss the Catalan derby next week, if its for violent conduct he's done for the season :cool:

titeo

26-05-2007, 09:56 PM

Ronaldinho got a red card for kicking out, he'll miss the Catalan derby next week, if its for violent conduct he's done for the season :cool:
What do you mean Ronnie is done for the season? Barca is done for the season. We're Champions. :cool:

Rev

26-05-2007, 10:03 PM

I won't say it's done till its done. They did get their 3 points today, but with their magician out for the season, it'll be easier for them to drop points. Damn, I was hoping Getafe would pull it off with a draw.

Murkurial

26-05-2007, 10:57 PM

Does anyone know where I might be able to find some high quality match pictures from Real's games. I'm tryin' to figure out what the back of the away jersey looks like but I can't find it anywhere.

drachen

26-05-2007, 11:04 PM

^Which kit? The black one?

Ronaldinho got a red card for kicking out, he'll miss the Catalan derby next week, if its for violent conduct he's done for the season :cool:

Eto'o will miss it as well. 5th yellow... :)

Murkurial

26-05-2007, 11:36 PM

^Which kit? The black one?

Eto'o will miss it as well. 5th yellow... :)

Yeah, the black one.

kidujp

27-05-2007, 12:04 AM

Eto'o will miss it as well. 5th yellow... :)

Not sure about that... As far as I know, there was only edmilson and puyol who were on 4 yellows. Edmilson will miss next game as he got a yellow and puyol didn't get one. First time hearing about the Eto'o story. Got any sources for that?

And even if it was, we've seen a few yellows and reds rescinded miraculously this season. There could very well be another one of those miracles or two. It's la liga after all.

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 12:17 AM

According to the post-match report on Soccernet.com Eto'o didn't receive a yellow and he's only got 4 on the season. Ronaldinho's red hasn't updated on his stats page but it's listed in the post-match report. My guess is Eto'o will play.

drachen

27-05-2007, 12:18 AM

^I didn't see the match, a friend of mine just told me so I'm not really sure. I'll check it out later

Yeah, the black one.

The last time we wore black was away to Recreativo and this were the best pics I could find. Not HQ Sorry

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070520/i/r1900012022.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070520/i/r2807537505.jpg

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 12:24 AM

^I didn't see the match, a friend of mine just told me so I'm not really sure. I'll check it out later

The last time we wore black was away to Recreativo and this were the best pics I could find. Not HQ Sorry

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070520/i/r1900012022.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070520/i/r2807537505.jpg

That's perfect. I wasn't sure if the away jersey had the same mini crests at the bottom of the numbers as the home jersey. I'm trying to figure out which one to pick up and I think im gonna go with the home shirt. Not just for that but because it just looks better overall. I just wish I could find one in L/S.

drachen

27-05-2007, 12:24 AM

Not sure about that... As far as I know, there was only edmilson and puyol who were on 4 yellows. Edmilson will miss next game as he got a yellow and puyol didn't get one. First time hearing about the Eto'o story. Got any sources for that?

According to the post-match report on Soccernet.com Eto'o didn't receive a yellow and he's only got 4 on the season. Ronaldinho's red hasn't updated on his stats page but it's listed in the post-match report. My guess is Eto'o will play.

5th yellow card - EUROSPORT.COM

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5482/untitled1copyrz7.jpg

:)

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 12:37 AM

Robinho says Kaka is ready to join Real.
Associated Press
Posted: 2 days ago

MADRID, Spain (AP) - Champions League winner Kaka may be about to join Real Madrid.

"He very much likes Real Madrid," his Brazil teammate Robinho told Radio Marca on Thursday. "He speaks highly of the team and he told me he'd like to play here.

"But it would be very difficult for AC Milan to let him leave."

Kaka set up Filippo Inzaghi for AC Milan's second goal in Wednesday's 2-1 win over Liverpool in the Champions League final... [cont'd] (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6846022)

So is it just me or does FoxSoccer put out a lot of tabloid-esque stories to just ramp up speculation. They did this with Eto'o and Man United saying he was all but signed and it turns out he doesn't plan on moving to Premiership at all this summer. I mean, this may turn out to be true, but we've heard the rumors about Kaka coming here since last season and this site (FoxSoccer.com) always seems to just be a place to perpetuate rumors.

drachen

27-05-2007, 12:47 AM

^That's a new interview from Radio Marca. He said it, anyone who was listening to Marca at the time heard him say it. I have a pic of him on inside the booth when he was saying it :p

drachen

27-05-2007, 12:56 AM

^Robinho just says Kaka likes Madrid. Kaka said a few weeks back he wants Madrid to win La Liga but that doesn't mean he's coming here :(

I doubt Milan will let him go... unless we pay a ridiculous amount of money and include a few players (Robinho, Canna and Diarra) according to reports

wong_ma

27-05-2007, 01:58 AM

i think im back...all the other forums suck...i m proud to say that this one owns despite all the neg repping...

MADRID!!!!!
we won!!! 3-1!! almost there

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 02:30 AM

i think im back...all the other forums suck...i m proud to say that this one owns despite all the neg repping...

MADRID!!!!!
we won!!! 3-1!! almost there

Lol, I know all about the neg repping. But yes, 2 more wins and it's ours. It'd be great to see Becks go out on a high note.

Rev

27-05-2007, 02:38 AM

Lol, I know all about the neg repping. But yes, 2 more wins and it's ours. It'd be great to see Becks go out on a high note.

So when did you become a Madridista? :confused: Always thought you were only a United faithful.

bennmartin

27-05-2007, 02:45 AM

So is it just me or does FoxSoccer put out a lot of tabloid-esque stories to just ramp up speculation. They did this with Eto'o and Man United saying he was all but signed and it turns out he doesn't plan on moving to Premiership at all this summer. I mean, this may turn out to be true, but we've heard the rumors about Kaka coming here since last season and this site (FoxSoccer.com) always seems to just be a place to perpetuate rumors.

yeah, foxsports likes to spin the story into something more than it is. whoever does the headlines likes to tabloid everything up to get people to click on it.

excellent win. havent had a chance to watch it so i will comment on that later.

very excited about beckham's recall. hopefully he can play as well for england as he has for us.

im not fussed about ronnie or eto'o. i would rather have them play to be honest so there are no excuses when the title race is over. sometimes a club rallies around each other when a player is out anyway. i know ronnie will miss one match but i dont think because he misses out that barca will automatically lose.

2 more finals!

Rev

27-05-2007, 03:15 AM

im not fussed about ronnie or eto'o. i would rather have them play to be honest so there are no excuses when the title race is over. sometimes a club rallies around each other when a player is out anyway. i know ronnie will miss one match but i dont think because he misses out that barca will automatically lose.

2 more finals!

What I thought exactly. But even if we win the title with Ronaldinho and Eto'o there, the Barca people will still cry foul at Real saying we pay to win. IMO, it's a thing of tradition in Spanish football, it is weird, yes, but it is also legal, and we're not paying someone to lose, we're paying someone if they win. I don't see the wrong of it, it's not like we're the only team to do it (if we do pay, that is).

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 04:12 AM

So when did you become a Madridista? :confused: Always thought you were only a United faithful.

Real was the first team I ever supported to be honest. Dunno why I didn't place them in my list with Man United as well. When I first got to this forum I was a huge Cronaldo fan, still am of course, but I always thought people would take issue with supporting more than one big squad but now I don't really care. I still followed Real Madrid almost as much as United this year.

I'm incredibly excited about Becks' recall as well. McClaren should still be sacked for waiting so long, and really for tossing him out in the first place but that's a different issue. I've no doubt that he'll give the squad new life in the qualifying stage.

Pizziesta

27-05-2007, 06:58 AM

So, It's Barcelona - (Eto'o + Ronaldhinho + Puyol + Edmilson ) x Espanyol Barcelona. Is it officially confirmed ?

I'm sure tittle will be decided in the next round.

DriveShot

27-05-2007, 09:14 AM

I'm still worried about Sevilla since they have a better heads up record.

Lunchbox

27-05-2007, 09:27 AM

I'm still worried about ourselves. My heart will be thankful after the Zaragoza game :)

Pizziesta

27-05-2007, 10:35 AM

'Nerves' is the name,
Zaragoza, is the game,
A win for the fame,
anything other, The Shame!

kidujp

27-05-2007, 11:08 AM

5th yellow card - EUROSPORT.COM

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5482/untitled1copyrz7.jpg

:)

Where does it say that it's the 5th yellow? It says he got an yellow. And if it's that red thing that convinced you, then they placed it accidentally over Eto'o's name. It should have been on Edmilson's name just above Eto'o. Edmilson and Ronnie won't play the next game, all others should, if they are not injured.

So, It's Barcelona - (Eto'o + Ronaldhinho + Puyol + Edmilson ) x Espanyol Barcelona. Is it officially confirmed ?

I'm sure tittle will be decided in the next round.

Now what happened to Puyol ?

Honestly, like some of you guys said, all Madrid has to do is win 2 games and irrespective of what happens with Barca, whether we play the A or B team, you'll be champions. But some people here seems to want to be champions not by winning but by Barca losing, and it's the first realistic chance you have in years. Ironic.:confused:

Now if I wish to see you guys lose or draw one of the 2 games, it's still reasonable as unfortunately our fate is not in our hands alone, anymore.

r7raul

27-05-2007, 11:58 AM

'Nerves' is the name,
Zaragoza, is the game,
A win for the fame,
anything other, The Shame!

:D good, keep it up !

Bruun

27-05-2007, 12:09 PM

Rev

27-05-2007, 12:18 PM

Hey madridistas!

Good win last night, the title is getting closer. Hope Barcelona don't get it :D

My Madrid friend gave me this link: http://www.realmadridfans.org/videos.htm

Quite nice... all the goals from the season. Even pre-season friendlies and classic videos :cool:

Thanks Bruun for the good vids, really appreciate it.

Kidujp, we all know that if Real win all the games, we'll win the league but in our point of view, it'll also be nice if Barca don't chase us down our necks. It'll really be nice if you guys lose so we can breathe, so in case if we fuck up, we'll still be in safe hands. I'm sure you can understand the idea of your enemies fucking up so you can crawl back up the league, its simple, really.

Silas

27-05-2007, 01:54 PM

It's Raul....dribbling in the box....he's fouled....penalty....no....it's Ruuuuuud vaaan Nistelrooooy!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Phenom

27-05-2007, 03:18 PM

Ronaldinho got a red card for kicking out, he'll miss the Catalan derby next week, if its for violent conduct he's done for the season :cool:

such a shame:D

Pizziesta

27-05-2007, 05:23 PM

Kidujp, we all know that if Real win all the games, we'll win the league but in our point of view, it'll also be nice if Barca don't chase us down our necks. It'll really be nice if you guys lose so we can breathe, so in case if we fuck up, we'll still be in safe hands. I'm sure you can understand the idea of your enemies fucking up so you can crawl back up the league, its simple, really.
That's what! :cool: We ain't mind seeing Barcelona getting relegated either.. :p

btw, Thanks Bruun! I used to get video from it, before its web address was changed!

It's Raul....dribbling in the box....he's fouled....penalty....no....it's Ruuuuuud vaaan Nistelrooooy!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
...and then, Silas awoke to go to college. :D

Silas

27-05-2007, 05:30 PM

...and then, Silas awoke to go to college. :D
:confused: It happened yesterday.

Phenom

27-05-2007, 05:32 PM

I'm still worried about Sevilla since they have a better heads up record.

if we keep winning nothing can touch us;)

chiz187

27-05-2007, 05:52 PM

Silas

27-05-2007, 05:54 PM

After the summer, Higuin and Gago would improve A LOT! Good thing as Emerson is not a 90 minute player anymore. Fuck, why does Beckham have to go. :(

Pizziesta

27-05-2007, 07:18 PM

After the summer, Higuin and Gago would improve A LOT! Good thing as Emerson is not a 90 minute player anymore. Fuck, why does Beckham have to go. :(
I think Emerson will leave in the summer. That will give a permanent place for Gago and Diarra.

..and Beckham! :( Just hope that, he will tear the agreement papers, and stay in the club. :)

Murkurial

27-05-2007, 07:35 PM

Where does it say that it's the 5th yellow? It says he got an yellow. And if it's that red thing that convinced you, then they placed it accidentally over Eto'o's name. It should have been on Edmilson's name just above Eto'o. Edmilson and Ronnie won't play the next game, all others should, if they are not injured.

Now what happened to Puyol ?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f347/Murkurial/EtooYellow.jpg
^^
Just to show you where I got it from.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f347/Murkurial/EtooYellow2.jpg
^^
This is from the post match report.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f347/Murkurial/EtooYellow3.jpg
^^
These are his most recent stats.

Now Puyol I'm not too sure about. According to the post match report he doesn't have one but I was wrong before after checking that. Not sure which site is more accurate between Eurosport and Soccernet. But the way it's looking Puyol doesn't have one.

Pizziesta

27-05-2007, 08:05 PM

r7raul

27-05-2007, 08:15 PM

According to La Liga official website: http://lfp.es :D

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3104/laliganw7.jpg

kuuze

27-05-2007, 09:28 PM

Metzelder closes on Real move

http://images.skysports.com/images/playerpics06_07/Germany/Dortmund/metzelder_christoph.jpg

[Clicky+Clicky] (http://home.skysports.com/transferarticle.aspx?hlid=468902)

shreyas

27-05-2007, 09:45 PM

I thought of having a check too.. but after seeing this (pic), i lost its trust. :p Now, waiting to hear it in revista or some other place.. but after the international break most of them will surely talk about it.. Anyways, shouldn't be caring to see, who plays or who doesn't play for barca, but just... for heartbeat sake.. :D

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7783/aaaaic3.jpg
Exactly..ignore whatever happens with barcelona..just hope that real win their last two games..the more important one being zaragoza..since its in your hand's now..its for you guys to lose the title..i just hope theres enough quality in the squad to keep the winning run going for another two games!!:)

Lunchbox

27-05-2007, 09:49 PM

Wat do you guys think of gago's performance today? How does it hold to Emerson's usual performance? personally i thought it was pretty good. there were just a few moments where it seemed like the ball was going nowhere but being trapped in the midfield (then again that's his role). He's starting to improve so thats good. :)

Gago played alot better than he has recently. I still think Emerson/Diarra is the better pairing. Gago needs more time which he will surely get.

To me Higuain is the most exciting of the 2 Argies atm tho :)

wong_ma

28-05-2007, 04:07 AM

Exactly..ignore whatever happens with barcelona..just hope that real win their last two games..the more important one being zaragoza..since its in your hand's now..its for you guys to lose the title..i just hope theres enough quality in the squad to keep the winning run going for another two games!!:)

well theres the int. break coming up (appranetly)...so that could break some of the momentum...(according to cappello)

btw..in the barca game..why did the previous posted images say that eto'o was sent off? wasnt ronaldinho the one that got sent off?

bennmartin

28-05-2007, 07:01 AM

well theres the int. break coming up (appranetly)...so that could break some of the momentum...(according to cappello)

btw..in the barca game..why did the previous posted images say that eto'o was sent off? wasnt ronaldinho the one that got sent off?

eto'o was carded with his fifth yellow apparently so he would have to miss the next match.

Pizziesta

28-05-2007, 07:39 AM

well theres the int. break coming up (appranetly)...so that could break some of the momentum...(according to cappello)

We really should keep the momentum. Nice to hear that Capello is keen on it. Just hope that Beckham or RVN will not get injured.. in their Int' Friendly matches.

wong_ma

28-05-2007, 08:48 AM

well...we do have a few players on int. duty..they should be still in the form they were b4 they left for int. duty.

lets hope RvN will do something spectacular after the break...like score a hat-trick?

=D

messi_19

28-05-2007, 10:57 AM

eto'o was carded with his fifth yellow apparently so he would have to miss the next match.

eto'o will play the next match, it was deco that was carded.

Lunchbox

28-05-2007, 12:22 PM

There is some new Silas porn up on the Real' site, and for anyone else who is interested.

Ruud Interview/Info (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma39879.htm)

wong_ma

28-05-2007, 02:11 PM

"In addition to Casillas and Sergio Ramos, who were called up by Spanish national coach Luis Aragonés for matches against Latvia and Liechtenstein, Miguel Torres will join the Spain Under-21 team against Georgia and six others will travel to their respective camps: Robinho and Marcelo (Brazil), Cannavaro (Italy), Beckham (England), Gago (Argentina), and Diarra (Mali)."

"Capello won't have all his players back until 7 June, just three days before the second to last matchday. Real Madrid travel to Zaragoza for what could be the prelude to the League title for the Madridistas, the only team that controls its own destiny."

well...3days..they would be pretty tired...

Murkurial

28-05-2007, 02:18 PM

btw..in the barca game..why did the previous posted images say that eto'o was sent off? wasnt ronaldinho the one that got sent off?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f347/Murkurial/EtooYellow3.jpg

Sorry for using red to highlight the stat but the "YC" above that column is for yellow cards and according to Soccernet and the post-match report, Eto'o was carded and now has 5. I'm not sure where all the confusion is coming from (an that's not directed at you specifically Wong_ma) but I guess we'll see come June 10th if he's playing or not. ESPN is usually pretty accurate.

eto'o will play the next match, it was deco that was carded.

Skysports.com and EPSN both have Eto'o as one of the three to be carded. Deco's not on any of their lists. Don't see two reputable sites making a mistake like that but I suppose one could watch the capped match here again to confirm it.

Silas

28-05-2007, 06:30 PM

There is some new Silas porn up on the Real' site, and for anyone else who is interested.

Ruud Interview/Info (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma39879.htm)
Kekekekeke! :D

DriveShot

28-05-2007, 08:38 PM

Our players better not play many minutes or pick up any injuries in these meaningless friendlies, we have a title to win!

phenomenom

28-05-2007, 08:59 PM

just watched the depor game, lol ruud tried hard to avoid a fifth yellow, especially the one when he tried to pick up the rebound from a beckham long range attempt. good to see that.

Zico

29-05-2007, 01:45 AM

I'm very concerned about the Zaragoza match... for the last 5 years RM has done poorly after the international and this is our bogey team on the road :eek:

The good news is that they have Diogo suspended (a former player)... anyone else?

This game is Barca's best chance of retaining their title and I'd be gutted to see that... I'd much rather Seville win it than see the Catalans rub it in for a 3rd year in a row!! :mad:

Rev

29-05-2007, 01:46 AM

Finally manage to watch the Deportivo match and here is what I thought:

I thought we deserve a 3-0 result instead of 3-1. Our back four and the 2 DMs hardly made a wrong move throughout the game and the back was really stable. That one goal we conceded was bad luck as we didn't manage to clear it soon enough. But other than that one goal, there wasn't too much threat from Deportivo for the entire match.

The back four:
A rare decent game by Ramos while partnering up with Cannavaro in the center. He usually looks really shabby as a center back, let it be Cannavaro or Helguera that he's partnering with. But this week, he has put in a fine performance. Torres, although he hasn't produce much in attack, has been fantastic at back tracking, absolutely A+ defensively. I see him or Ramos playing at the right next week at Zaragoza, can't afford to play Cicinho just yet as he has been a liability defensively during the Espanyol match. Carlos has been fantastic as well, it seems he has taken some knocks during the match, I hope he'll be fit by next week.

Midfielders:
Gago put in a great show in the middle of the park. He won back a lot of balls and interrupted a lot of plays. His passes are short and simple at best but that is enough as he is no real playmaker. The only thing that I didn't like about him is he tried to be too creative by whipping in those long balls in the air. Almost every single one of them was appalling as it resulted in a loss of possession. As for Diarra, Becks, and Robinho, nothing much to say about them as they put in a solid performance. I'm still dying to see Robinho behind Ruud next season.

Strikers: Raul, other than his goal and Ruud's goal, he was invisible during most of the game. But he was there when it counted, so I'd give him an 8. Same with Ruud, he has a quiet game, he was heavily marked the whole game but he was there to score when the opportunity was given to him, I'd rate him a 8.

I'm really worried about next week's match away at Zaragoza. They lost to Sevilla so they are still hungry for the 3 points so they can get into Europe. To be honest, don't kill me for saying this but I don't see us getting all 3 points at their ground as they only manage to lose 2 games at home this season, I expect a draw at max. Of course, I do hope Real prove me wrong and take all 3 points but I think the chances are rather slim.

wong_ma

29-05-2007, 03:08 AM

drachen

29-05-2007, 06:42 AM

According to someone from another forum, cule media are all pissy because Angel Torres (president of getafe) went to a bullfight with Calderon and Capello.

FFS everyone knows he's a Real Madrid fan :rolleyes:

http://www.marca.com/elementosPortada/fotosPortada/2007/05/28/angel_torres370x200.jpg

gastador

29-05-2007, 07:22 AM

I watched the last two games of Zaragoza and I have to say I am not that worried about it, sure they have amazing talent in midfield and their attack is not too shabby as well, but their defence is rather poor - and Real has certainly been efficient this season.

I predict a high scoring game, I just hope we come out on top of it. Diogo couldn't play even if he wasn't suspended, quite fortunate cause he has been superb for Zaragoza (according to the press, I only saw 4 games all season but he always did rather well).

The main threat is D.Milito, he has missed a few incredible sitters against Valencia, didn't do extremely well against Seville, so I just hope he doesn't put it together next week. I also much rather have us play a team in need of points, a draw is no good for Real anyway so at least we now Zaragoza won't hold back at anytime. I just hoope we don't fall behind again, one of these days we won't bounce back...

wong_ma

29-05-2007, 09:14 AM

shreyas

29-05-2007, 10:54 AM

looks like a fake pic...lol
hmm..its very real..they were discussing it when real played depo over the weekend..seems stuff like this is normal in spain..man..i didn't know almost everything wrong in any of the leagues in the world was ok in spain!:eek: :rolleyes:

drachen

29-05-2007, 11:51 AM

looks like a fake pic...lol

That picture was taken by MARCA, it is very real. Calderon is a part owner of that bull ring I think

hmm..its very real..they were discussing it when real played depo over the weekend..seems stuff like this is normal in spain..man..i didn't know almost everything wrong in any of the leagues in the world was ok in spain!:eek: :rolleyes:

What's wrong with it? Its not like Madrid and Getafe are playing this weekeend and they're talking about Getafe intentionally losing or something like that.

Getafe was founded by Real Madrid fans, Its like if FC United of Manchester got promoted to the EPL... minus the hate for the current owners :p . No surprise that their president is a Real Madrid socio (member) and obviously Real Madrid is "his club" so its not weird to see him with Madrid representatives.

I think I read on another forum that he attends Real Madrid matches regularly at the Bernabeu and is a season ticket holder. He doesn't need money to motivate him to beat Barca.

And if they're plotting a scheme of some sort, they wouldn't do it front and center inside a bullfighting ring :p

wong_ma

29-05-2007, 01:53 PM

oh wow...never knew that..but i read that rma were paying getafe to get a draw or better against barca...lol

Murkurial

29-05-2007, 09:30 PM

I don't know who watched the game between Real and Recreativo (there's a capped version here on the site), but after Rudd slots in this penalty tell me if you found anything odd about what the commentator said.

v/nSbz-t-iQbs

By the way, I only placed it here because the actual thread for the capped match is all but dead, and I know that many of the people in the forum probably won't be floating about the "Mediaroom."

funkdoctorspock

29-05-2007, 09:41 PM

Ray Hudson can't commentate a game to save his life...

however, they were bouncing rather nicely... good call Ray!!! :D

Silas

29-05-2007, 09:48 PM

Hahahaha! :D

dimz

29-05-2007, 09:53 PM

Yeah they are bouncing nicely! Ultimate_Red_Devil would like that, lol.

Ray Hudson makes me sick.

:eek: they have a plethora of quotes from this guy on wiki!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Hudson

Silas

29-05-2007, 09:55 PM

Ray Hudson makes me sick.
Yes, me too. I found out his name just now. His voice is irritating, isn't it??

DriveShot

29-05-2007, 11:04 PM

Hudson is an acquired taste. GolTV was the only English commentary for Madrid matches I had.

Lunchbox

29-05-2007, 11:42 PM

Hudson is an acquired taste.

So is cask wine ;)

We get ESPN over here so it's good being able to watch it live, then download the GolTV stream later and laugh at him and not take it too seriously :)

bennmartin

30-05-2007, 12:59 AM

hudson is a character for sure. sometimes i can't stand him but other times, he cracks me up and makes a boring match a little more interesting. he does know his football but you can tell when he is trying too hard to come up with a memorable quote.

nine players away for country this week. i really worry about the timing. we will only get a couple of days together before the next match and i really hope we dont pick up a knock!

SS2006

30-05-2007, 01:41 AM

“Without penetration, it’s just masturbation, and right now, we’re playing with ourselves.”
Nice.

Silas

30-05-2007, 01:57 AM

"Ruud Van Nistelrooy says to Lilian Thuram, 'You're my little lollipop here tonight, mate!"
:D :D :D :D

wong_ma

30-05-2007, 08:45 AM

boucing nicely....wth?

drachen

30-05-2007, 11:54 AM

Ray Hudson's commentary is "orgasmic" :p I pmsl when I listen to him sometimes. Most entertaining commentator EVER.

He calls Robinho twinkle toes and uses too many horse references with Ruud :p .

shreyas

30-05-2007, 12:52 PM

Guys..check out this thread..its got the Best 10 Real Madrid Goals capped by me a year back!
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=785802#post785802

DriveShot

30-05-2007, 04:21 PM

Guys..check out this thread..its got the Best 10 Real Madrid Goals capped by me a year back!
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=785802#post785802

It better have Zizou's volley when he tee's it up for himself off of Cicinho's pass from last last or its not worth it ;)

Ill check it out when I get home.

shreyas

30-05-2007, 04:36 PM

It better have Zizou's volley when he tee's it up for himself off of Cicinho's pass from last last or its not worth it ;)

Ill check it out when I get home.
Heh err..when was that??i think this show was made sometime in the middle of last year..it was rotting in some weird folder on my computer..chanced upon it today..theres lot more good stuff init..will try uploading some of that too!:D

phenomenom

30-05-2007, 04:41 PM

It better have Zizou's volley when he tee's it up for himself off of Cicinho's pass from last last or its not worth it ;)

Ill check it out when I get home.

omg, that goal against espanyol, we thrashed them 4-0. zidane scored twice, but his second goal was out of this world. not many players would have such technique to score that kind of goal.

DriveShot

30-05-2007, 04:55 PM

shreyas

30-05-2007, 05:01 PM

Cicinho got the ball and streaked forward with like a 1-2 from Beckham IRC, ran towards the middle and passed it to Zizou who popped the ball up with his left foot about 2 feet high and volleyed the ball with his wrong foot from about 30 yards. Poetry in motion is the only way to describe it.
Oh yeah..i remember that..i think he scored his first ever real madrid hat-trick at the same time..some of the goals he scored then were absolute quality..!

phenomenom

30-05-2007, 05:17 PM

Oh yeah..i remember that..i think he scored his first ever real madrid hat-trick at the same time..some of the goals he scored then were absolute quality..!

eh eh that hattrick he scored against sevilla, same season. we won 4-2. maybe the only hat-trick he ever scored in his professional career, can anybody confirm.

i think zidane also scored his last ever goal for Real against sevilla though we were beaten 4-3.

shreyas

30-05-2007, 05:21 PM

eh eh that hattrick he scored against sevilla, same season. we won 4-2. maybe the only hat-trick he ever scored in his professional career, can anybody confirm.

i think zidane also scored his last ever goal for Real against sevilla though we were beaten 4-3.
Oh..i thought it was against villareal??:eek: :o Remember zizou heading in a goal..and then real just concede right after..think riquelme or someone scored too..

DriveShot

30-05-2007, 05:36 PM

It was his first hattrick of his career last year, I believe he had two, one was a natural I believe.

Pizziesta

30-05-2007, 07:30 PM

Butregeno goal was really awesome.. i think it deserves at least the 2nd place..

DriveShot

30-05-2007, 11:03 PM

BTW, you guys should download the 5/26/07 606 podcast on iTunes. Its an excellent, long, interview with Beckham.

Edit: Just uploaded it.
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=786584#post786584

bennmartin

31-05-2007, 12:22 AM

BTW, you guys should download the 5/26/07 606 podcast on iTunes. Its an excellent, long, interview with Beckham.

Edit: Just uploaded it.
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=786584#post786584

cheers!

Rev

31-05-2007, 10:26 AM

bennmartin

31-05-2007, 11:45 AM

To be honest, I'm kinda lost that we weren't even rumored to players such as Nani and Anderson that signed for United today. Both are players that we need, especially Anderson. Anderson cost United 15million pounds, that is a good price for a player of his calibre, especially when he is still so young. Of course, I don't expect him to perform like Kaka first season in, that is impossible but Real can groom him and I'm sure he can be fantastic when the second or third season comes. Especially when the Portugese league isn't too much different from Spanish league, adapting shouldn't be too big of a problem.

I'm not too disappointed, just kinda lost. But then to be fair, our recent signings are all great ones.

i see where you are coming from but giggs will be around for a few more years for anderson to develop and we really need someone who can step right in to replace beckham. i think it would have been good to chase him but we really need someone who can start right away.

nani, again, we have higuain in the fold. if we do bring in another striker, we should work on getting a someone bigger physically who can eventually replace ruud. i think these two players were a good pick-up for united but im not too upset that we didnt get them.

shreyas

31-05-2007, 12:36 PM

Soldado aims to grasp first opportunity for Spain
MADRID, May 31 (Reuters) - Uncapped striker Roberto Soldado is determined to grasp his opportunity with both hands in Spain's Group F Euro 2008 qualifier against Latvia on Saturday.

With Fernando Torres withdrawing from the squad through injury, Soldado is strongly tipped to get a run-out in Riga and the 22-year-old Osasuna striker is in confident mood.

'We all know what Fernando means to this team and he has been a key player in attack,' Soldado told a news conference on Wednesday.

'He was really unlucky to get injured but I'm here to step into his shoes and if I play I hope to do as well or even better than he has.'

Soldado, who has scored 11 league goals since joining Osasuna in a loan deal from Real Madrid at the start of the season, is likely to partner the live-wire David Villa up front.

'It's going to be very easy to play with a player of his quality,' he said. 'We have different styles ... but we compliment each other very well and I hope we can help Spain get three important points on Saturday.'
Well..not really real madrid news but soldado still is a real madrid player right..with the form he is in i'm hoping he's given a good chance next year..

Rev

31-05-2007, 12:40 PM

i see where you are coming from but giggs will be around for a few more years for anderson to develop and we really need someone who can step right in to replace beckham. i think it would have been good to chase him but we really need someone who can start right away.

nani, again, we have higuain in the fold. if we do bring in another striker, we should work on getting a someone bigger physically who can eventually replace ruud. i think these two players were a good pick-up for united but im not too upset that we didnt get them.

I know we need someone who can make a difference right away, but there aren't too many of these type of quality players to go around nowadays. Even if they are available, they'll cost an arm or a leg.

Kaka wasn't that well known before he joined Milan, after his first season he became a hit. Which is why I think we gotta make a gamble on an unproven player sometimes. I guess I'm just frustrated seeing Fabregas and Kaka linked to Real every now and then because if you put in some common sense into this whole Kaka-Fabregas saga, you can tell there are no deals for both Fabregas and Kaka, these transfers isn't going anywhere. People who believes the news are just shitting themselves to be honest. Transfers such as Figo's doesn't happen all too often and I seriously think Real should let go of Kaka and Fabregas so we can search for another playmaker.

Lunchbox

31-05-2007, 02:10 PM

Transfers such as Figo's doesn't happen all too often and I seriously think Real should let go of Kaka and Fabregas so we can search for another playmaker.

You make me miss Perez sometimes Rev :)

kidujp

31-05-2007, 02:52 PM

I know we need someone who can make a difference right away, but there aren't too many of these type of quality players to go around nowadays. Even if they are available, they'll cost an arm or a leg.

Kaka wasn't that well known before he joined Milan, after his first season he became a hit. Which is why I think we gotta make a gamble on an unproven player sometimes. I guess I'm just frustrated seeing Fabregas and Kaka linked to Real every now and then because if you put in some common sense into this whole Kaka-Fabregas saga, you can tell there are no deals for both Fabregas and Kaka, these transfers isn't going anywhere. People who believes the news are just shitting themselves to be honest. Transfers such as Figo's doesn't happen all too often and I seriously think Real should let go of Kaka and Fabregas so we can search for another playmaker.

Like you said, transfers like Figo's don't happen all too often. Also when it happened, madrid was the team to play for with all the galacticos, a team on top, a team with all signs of staying on top and barcelona was not exactly on top and not even looking like we wanted to go on top with plenty of internal crap.

Now the situation in Madrid is not exactly the same as it used to be. May be you guys might win the title this year, may be not. Doesn't matter who wins this year, everyone has to admit that this has been a scrappy season. Nothing too fancy from any of the teams and I honestly think that except for sevilla, performance wise, almost everyone had a shitty season. Kaka just won the CL and Milan is looking like they want to mount a serious title challenge next season and if they don't get Ronnie next seaon(even if they do), I've no idea why they would want to sell him. The player himself is happy there and the team is too. Ask this yourself : If the situation was the other way round, real have Kaka and Milan want him and has nothing except money to offer, would you sell him? I'm sure not, and like real, Milan is not a team swayed too much by money alone. Just like the Sheva situation showed, it has to be pressure from the player along with the money, and I'm not sure if that's going to be the case of Kaka.

As far as Fabregas is concerned, he could be bought. But the price is going to be very very high and that might put a cramp on other deals. Real ahd more success in la liga this season than some of the recent seasons and it's all down tot he young side and they are doing well. So why not go on rebuild the side for the future that will remain loyal and dominate for years by spending less than put all your eggs in one basket.

I think the problem with Madrid right now, is that they have nothing definite to offer except money, and for people who need it, it's good but for others...

shreyas

31-05-2007, 04:35 PM

hey..the second compilation i ripped..an old Raul compilation..
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76642

Pizziesta

31-05-2007, 06:46 PM

hey..the second compilation i ripped..an old Raul compilation..
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76642
Thanks!!!! Good going mate.. ;)

r7raul

31-05-2007, 09:52 PM

About Cassano, I find this question is funny in Reyes press conference :D
Do you see Antonio Cassano every day?
Of course I do. I have a chat with him every day. He has an injury on his ankle and only thinks about getting better.
Source: http://realmadrid.com/articulo/rma39967.htm

Rev

31-05-2007, 10:30 PM

You make me miss Perez sometimes Rev

Me too, if only he didn't interrupt with sporting decisions and wasn't so erratic with coach changes.

I think the problem with Madrid right now, is that they have nothing definite to offer except money, and for people who need it, it's good but for others...

I think it's more than money. Real is still very attractive to many players because of its past reputation, crowned 9 times in Europe and won most Liga title in Spain. Also, the players that previously played here also has some power to attract new players into the club. Kids grow up watching the likes of likes of Zidane, Ronaldo, Figo, Raul play for Real making these kids want to wear the whites too. Gago is a great example, his idol is Redondo. Because of that, I'm sure Real has some sort of impact to Gago, which is what made him pick Real over other clubs. Then we have Higuain, many clubs were courting him too but he picked Real over others. Of course money plays a big role too but sometimes it's not just about money.

But kidujp, you hit it spot on about Kaka and Fabregas. I can't say the same for Fabregas and Kaka because they are currently really happy with their respective clubs. Both clubs will not have their opinion swayed by money too easily, especially for Milan since Silvio Berlusconi owns it. They're both in one of the best clubs in Europe and both are settled. To top it off for Fabregas, he is from Barca, that just says it all.

wong_ma

01-06-2007, 02:15 AM

hey..the second compilation i ripped..an old Raul compilation..
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76642

RAUL!!!!!

THANKS =D

drachen

01-06-2007, 11:29 AM

wong_ma

01-06-2007, 12:14 PM

that means that the jersey that was posted up b4 was a fake

shreyas

01-06-2007, 12:28 PM

Ben-q was declared bankrupt and closed down..so the sponsorship deal that was for orginally more than a year was terminated..therefore the jersey could have been real but made before the company was bankrupt..but yeh..real do have new sponsors for next yr..

drachen

01-06-2007, 12:50 PM

The FAKE kit that was posted before was the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

The BWin thing has not been confirmed yet but as far as I'm aware, its either BWin or e-on

shreyas

01-06-2007, 12:56 PM

The FAKE kit that was posted before was the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

The BWin thing has not been confirmed yet but as far as I'm aware, its either BWin or e-on
Gadget Model Ronaldo wants his Money from Bankrupt BenQ Mobile
Real Madrid soccer star Ronaldo was doing some gadget modeling for BenQ Mobile who sponsored the Real Madrid team. Apparently he did not get paid yet and BenQ mobile is bankrupt.

Real Madrid has still to play with BenQ Mobile shirts until July. BenQ Mobile owes about 1.2 billon Euros (~$1.6 billon) to about 4,000 entities (mostly former employees). Ronaldo is one of creditors. His lawyer hopes to get 20% of the money owed from Ronaldo’s mobile phone endorsement contract.

I am sure Ronaldo will survive without the BenQ mobile money, others are not so lucky. More details on Bild (German).

The pressure on BenQ mounts that they will have to cover for the losses of their mobile unit.

Source : http://www.i4u.com/article8290.html

Bwin will sponsor Real Madrid
Spanish Real Madrid will sign a EUR 75 million contract with Austrian Internet gambling firm, Betandwin.

"Bwin" is one of several companies Real Madrid was negotiating with but President Ramon Calderon would not name other potential sponsors saying that the "agreement would be unimaginable for any other club."

Real Madrid's rivals Spanish Barcelona turned down a prospective deal with Bwin because the club's members did not like dealing with a gambling company, according to La Gaceta De Los Negocios.

Other firms rumoured to be vying as sponsor of the club are German energy giant E.On and Spanish firm Endesa.

Former sponsors of Real, such as dairy firm, Parmalat, and car distributor, Otaysa, did not do well financially in the deals. Electronic giant, Siemens, was forced to sell its mobile phone division to BenQ, which then went bankrupt.

Source : http://www.eufootball.biz/Sponsorship/140207-Bwin-will-sponsor-Real-Madrid.html

wong_ma

01-06-2007, 02:04 PM

oh ic.......looks like alot of sponsers which go under real madrid do really poorly...

what ever happen to "teka"

Pizziesta

01-06-2007, 04:19 PM

Hope to see some cool desing on the jersey, and some cool players from its contract' money. ;)

Edit: http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma40001.htm :cool:

messi_19

01-06-2007, 07:53 PM

Skysports.com and EPSN both have Eto'o as one of the three to be carded. Deco's not on any of their lists. Don't see two reputable sites making a mistake like that but I suppose one could watch the capped match here again to confirm it.

lfp.es, the offical site of la liga has deco on the list.

Pizziesta

01-06-2007, 08:00 PM

lfp.es, the offical site of la liga has deco on the list.
I wonder even the players, them selfs know. ;)

drachen

02-06-2007, 05:05 AM

Cicinho: Once all the competitions are over and Kaká is on vacation he'll be able to talk to Real Madrid. I was just talking to Roberto about it and he also thinks it's in Real Madrid's best interest to sign him. And I think it's in their best interest that Roberto stays.

Last year Cicinho said he talks to kaka often via messenger and emails, maybe he knows something we don't :D

Pizziesta

02-06-2007, 06:42 AM

Last year Cicinho said he talks to kaka often via messenger and emails, maybe he knows something we don't :D
Hope their emails stay un-hacked! :D :D

wong_ma

02-06-2007, 09:41 AM

Hope their emails stay un-hacked! :D :D

lets hope they say that cicinho is able to convince kaka to join rma!

drachen

02-06-2007, 01:11 PM

MARCA is reporting that if (when) we win he league, Emerson is going to dye his hair and Cicinho is going to shave his :p

http://www.marca.com/primeras/07/06/g0602.jpg

shreyas

02-06-2007, 02:04 PM

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7460/arsemarca1xd8.jpg
The English-Arsenal version of the Marca.. :D :D :D

MARCA is reporting that if (when) we win he league, Emerson is going to dye his hair and Cicinho is going to shave his
Heh..does Cicinho bald remind you of Michael Scowfield from prison break??:eek: :)

drachen

02-06-2007, 02:24 PM

^Can they take Eto'o too :)

A big no no on the Raul part :p

Silas

02-06-2007, 02:25 PM

Howdy my fellow Madridistas?! Long time no see. :D Any news on our Horsie? Any articles or such?

Pizziesta

02-06-2007, 06:22 PM

Howdy my fellow Madridistas?! Long time no see. :D Any news on our Horsie? Any articles or such?
Horsie need a goal in the Zaragoza match to equal, the Real Madrid record of goals scored in consecutive matches by a player. For the moment, it's 7, which already 7 players have done before. I remember he had a similar record in his first Manchester United season.. :rolleyes:

Also, couple of more for the FIFA Golden Boot award.. :)

--------------------
Casillas is the Captain for the Spain's game against Latvia! :) He has said that the Spain team situation is same as Real Madrid's.. :p

Phenom

02-06-2007, 07:40 PM

I don't know if this has been posted but reports are saying that BWin will be Madrid's new kit sponsors.

The highest sponsorship deal at the moment is Utd's. 20+ million a year. If the reports are true, Real Madrid will be getting 21 million a year, that would be the highest deal in football

juventus have the biggest sponsorship deal;)

"Italian soccer club Juventus has signed what is being described as the biggest ever sponsorship deal to be agreed in the sport, writes the Turin-based newspaper La Stampa.

The agreement involves an initial sum of €110 million, La Stampa says, to cover the period between July 2005 and July 2010, in exchange for which the Libyan-based oil company Tamoil will receive exclusive shirt sponsorship rights. A further €130 million has been agreed to cover the following 5 years, making the deal worth a total of €240 million."

but madrids will be bigger:D

Murkurial

02-06-2007, 10:14 PM

lfp.es, the offical site of la liga has deco on the list.

And my eyes and ears have Eto'o on the list.

v/iHFoBnbEGOY

drachen

03-06-2007, 06:37 AM

^Someone told me the ref put Deco's name instead of Eto'o. Spanish refs are the shizzle

juventus have the biggest sponsorship deal;)

"Italian soccer club Juventus has signed what is being described as the biggest ever sponsorship deal to be agreed in the sport, writes the Turin-based newspaper La Stampa.

The agreement involves an initial sum of €110 million, La Stampa says, to cover the period between July 2005 and July 2010, in exchange for which the Libyan-based oil company Tamoil will receive exclusive shirt sponsorship rights. A further €130 million has been agreed to cover the following 5 years, making the deal worth a total of €240 million."

but madrids will be bigger:D

Was that article published before or after they were relegated? Because I heard they renegotiated with their sponsor and that's why currently, ManU has the biggest shirt deal

wong_ma

03-06-2007, 11:32 PM

lol sounds so fake

Murkurial

03-06-2007, 11:50 PM

^Someone told me the ref put Deco's name instead of Eto'o. Spanish refs are the shizzle

^^I guess living w/o a conscience or any sort of morals makes that official's life so much more comfortable. That's pretty corrupt though if it is in fact true. In light of some things I've heard people say about La Liga as of late though, I wouldn't doubt it.

I found the article that he was talking about, but later found two that all but
confirm that Tamoil won't be their sponsors next season.

One says that both Siemens and Nike will continue to sponsor them but Tamoil declined to comment on whether or not they'd stay with Juventus if they were relegated:

Juventus signs 'biggest ever' football sponsorship deal

Italian soccer club Juventus has signed what is being described as the biggest ever sponsorship deal to be agreed in the sport, writes the Turin-based newspaper La Stampa.

The agreement involves an initial sum of €110 million, La Stampa says, to cover the period between July 2005 and July 2010, in exchange for which the Libyan-based oil company Tamoil will receive exclusive shirt sponsorship rights. A further €130 million has been agreed to cover the following 5 years, making the deal worth a total of €240 million...[cont'd] (http://www.fromeuropewithlove.net/juventus_signs_biggest_ever_deal.htm)

This second one talks of Fiat's agricultural machinery division "New Holland" becoming their new official sponsors for 33 million Euros beginning in July of this year and running until 2010:

Juventus Football Club agreed a three-year sponsorship deal with Fiat Group which will see the New Holland brand appearing on team shirts.

The deal, from July 2007 to June 2010, is thought to be worth E33 million a year, plus performance-related bonuses.
The logo that will appear on Juventus' shirts for at least the 2007-2008 season will be that of "New Holland", the division of Fiat that manufactures agricultural machinery.[source] (http://www.sportbusiness.com/news/161829/fiat-group-sponsors-juventus)

shreyas

04-06-2007, 01:35 AM

[I]
This second one talks of Fiat's agricultural machinery division "New Holland" becoming their new official sponsors for 33 million Euros beginning in July of this year and running until 2010:
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I've seen the photos for the new jersey..the design and colours all look top-class..but that logo SUCKS!!very prominent and very ugly..!

bennmartin

04-06-2007, 06:39 AM

saldado had a very impressive debut for spain after coming on as a substitute. i hope that real brings him back for another shot.

wong_ma

04-06-2007, 07:10 AM

lets hope he stays @ madrid...and plays like a legend and that RMA dont sign any strikers...

Pizziesta

04-06-2007, 07:24 AM

He has showed his class in each and every stage.. He's the next Raul!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/09/29/29n_soldado_wideweb__430x247,1.jpg

wong_ma

04-06-2007, 12:26 PM

He has showed his class in each and every stage.. He's the next Raul!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/09/29/29n_soldado_wideweb__430x247,1.jpg

oohh...the next raul...im looking forward to that!!!

Pizziesta

04-06-2007, 12:49 PM

I'm sure your patience will be rewarded with glory! ;)

drachen

05-06-2007, 01:15 PM

^Didn't he break Raul's records in Castilla? Or was it Portillo? or was it portillo who broke Raul's records then Soldado broke Portillos records...

... I'm so confused :p

Silas

05-06-2007, 01:16 PM

Which records?

wong_ma

05-06-2007, 01:41 PM

i dunno about any records...but he scored 42 goals in 56 appearances for castilla...and im not sure if that does beat rauls record

edit: here we go
"In the 1994-95 season Portillo entered the Real Madrid youth structure. During seven seasons as a youth player he was a prolific scorer, scoring 150 goals, breaking the goalscoring record previously held by Raúl González. In 2002 he signed his first professional contract, running until 2007, with a release clause of €35million."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Portillo

i know wiki isnt a realiable source...but wth anyway..lol

wong_ma

05-06-2007, 02:42 PM

http://realmadrid.com/articulo/rma40063.htm

just adding to the hype...
"Madrid have won two League titles on the second to last matchday in La Romareda"

well in that case...if the trend ocntinues...then barca will lose this weekend and we will win..=D

Rev

05-06-2007, 03:05 PM

Skysports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470286&CPID=23&clid=179&lid=10&title=Alves+bidding+begins&channel=&) says Real is currently courting Alves and reports suggests that Alves prefers Real over Milan and Chelsea. IMO, it'll be a really good move for us as Cicinho proves that he can be a liability at the back at times. I've mentioned this before, if Alves comes, we can always push Cicinho up front as a winger. Cicinho has shown that he can play there without much problems. Especially with Becks' departure, we'll really need a right winger and Cicinho suits the bill. What is good about pushing Cicinho up front is he can over lap with Alves when Alves is attacking. Now if we can actually sign a damn playmaker, then we're set for next season.

Silas

05-06-2007, 03:48 PM

If Heinze leaves, please buy him. :(

Rev

05-06-2007, 10:18 PM

If Heinze leaves, please buy him. :(

To be honest with you Silas, I don't think we need another LB as we have Marcelo and Torres. Not that I don't rate Heinze, it's just we don't need another LB. Why is he leaving though? Is it because he isn't getting enough playing time due to competition from Evra? Didn't he say he's going to decide after Copa America?

wong_ma

05-06-2007, 11:51 PM

Rev

05-06-2007, 11:56 PM

i say so too....i heard that the alves deal would include baptista...*tribafootball.com*

Skysports says so too, so I'm all for the deal if it is true, we can offload Baptista and get Alves on a cheaper deal. I don't hate Baptista nor do I think he's crap, he just didn't adapt well to EPL. He has shown what he can do with Sevilla previously and I believe he can do it again if he gets to play week in and week out as a striker. But we're too stacked in that department and if he comes back, he isn't going to get much play time so it is better for us if we offload him. Can't wait for the deal to happen because I rate Alves highly. :o Another playmaker and maybe a left winger (not too important) and we're set.

Silas

06-06-2007, 02:25 AM

To be honest with you Silas, I don't think we need another LB as we have Marcelo and Torres. Not that I don't rate Heinze, it's just we don't need another LB. Why is he leaving though? Is it because he isn't getting enough playing time due to competition from Evra? Didn't he say he's going to decide after Copa America?
I know he's not leaving, and he is a 100 times better than Evra. The media is making shit-storms again. :( But if he does leave, please ask Capello to buy him. Might as well go to my other home. :)

DriveShot

06-06-2007, 02:34 AM

We don't really need Alves since we have Ramos and Cicinho but it seems Madrid are pushing for him. I hope we don't pick him up. Concentrate on where we really need players.

Rev

06-06-2007, 03:08 AM

We don't really need Alves since we have Ramos and Cicinho but it seems Madrid are pushing for him. I hope we don't pick him up. Concentrate on where we really need players.

I think we're courting him because we need someone to replace Becks' on the right. I don't know if Capello (I resigned to the fact that he'll be here for another season) wants him to play in right wing or wants Cicinho to play right wing, but IMO is a good buy nonetheless. We may have Torres, Ramos, and Cicinho to play as right back but don't forget they're all very versatile players. Torres can play on left and right, Ramos can play center and right, and Cicinho has all the attributes to be pushed further up as a winger. I don't see Marcelo getting all the playing time next season, so him and Torres can rotate a bit. Ramos I see him rotating with someone in the center, either with Helguera, Cannavaro, or Metzelder. Cicinho showed that he can be a defensive liabilities at times (the Espanyol game but I hope he proves me wrong because I love Cicinho at RB when he played there last season). Especially with Becks gone next season, no one is going to help Cicinho back track when he pushes forward. So pushing him forward as a winger IMO is the best option. So if we get Alves, I see him giving us some rotation options more than overloading the competition at RB.

wong_ma

06-06-2007, 04:17 AM

btw...apparently...torres is going to osasuna on loan
as well as marcelo...i read this at tribalfootball...which could open the doors for a few sevilla players

Rev

06-06-2007, 04:29 AM

btw...apparently...torres is going to osasuna on loan
as well as marcelo...i read this at tribalfootball...which could open the doors for a few sevilla players

Tribalfootball? When did tribalfootball become a creditable source? I never believe anything until skysports post them anyway. Torres has been fantastic whenever or wherever he plays, left or right, I doubt Real will want to ship him off to Osasuna. Marcelo too? Who's going to play LB? Raul Bravo :rolleyes: ? Smells like bullshit if you ask me. And why should we open the door for A FEW Sevilla players when we clearly have our own players who are class acts (Torres) or capable of becoming class acts for Real (Marcelo)? We're only linked with Alves, or are you just talking about Alves alone?