Werder Bremen *SPOILERS*

[sweed]

But its let him walk for free + one further year with the best german striker in the squad vs. earning 10 million now.
Im not sure how much weight this is in money, but the 10 have been declined, so that number is already out of the race. Having someone of Klose`s class in the team is luxury and additional to that i bet that KATS (Klaus Allofs + Thomas Schaaf) are still pretty miffed about that secret meeting that happened 2 days before our semi-final, so im not sure if they even want to act rational^^


but still keeping an unhappy player would kind of be detrimental. its one thing if he was only causing the problem but frings and now borowski have come out and said that he should go. those are two really big players for bremen and it means a lot if they came out to say that.

my point is that no use in keeping an unhappy player and a player that is making the other players mad for the sake of 'not selling to bayern' and to prove a point.

even if he is going to leave on a free next season, would it really be worth it to hold onto an unhappy player?

[mambo]

...even if he is going to leave on a free next season, would it really be worth it to hold onto an unhappy player?

Well its not the FC Klose so i guess ...yes :D
Frings and Borowski are no enemies of Klose,
they just said what everyone thinks i guess.
Just put 5 million on top and the and the case is klosed hihi :p

[mambo]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5980/11303362ny2.jpg
Allofs zu Klose-Wechsel: "Verhandlungen beendet"
http://www2.onsport.t-online.de/c/11/30/27/04/11302704.html


Olala ...that sounds pretty final,
but i guess teh newspapers just pick the part which they want to hear the most.

However, my feeling is that there wont be a transfer this year.

[sweed]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5980/11303362ny2.jpg
Allofs zu Klose-Wechsel: "Verhandlungen beendet"
http://www2.onsport.t-online.de/c/11/30/27/04/11302704.html


Olala ...that sounds pretty final,
but i guess teh newspapers just pick the part which they want to hear the most.

However, my feeling is that there wont be a transfer this year.

yea read that somewhere. eh, not really smart on bremens part imo. oh well, we won't be paying a penny to bremen :D

[mambo]

According to "BILD (http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/bundesliga/2007/06/15/werder-alberto/zauber-duo-diego,geo=1995598.html) the transfer of Champions League winner Carlos Alberto (http://www.ca19.com.br/capa.asp) is as good as done.

I think the amount of 1.1 million € for the transfer
confirms that he is ment to be a trouble kid.
Brilliant technique but ...
He is very tempermental! That is his problem. He is a bit like a Gazza, all the talent and no discipline. Very good player, when he wants to be. But he can also get your team in trouble when he is not bothered. High risk player.

[mambo]

U19: Werder Bremen - FC Bayern München
http://rapidshare.com/files/37365940/Radio_Bremen_TV_-_Sportblitz_mit_Votava.divx

[sweed]

U19: Werder Bremen - FC Bayern München
http://rapidshare.com/files/37365940/Radio_Bremen_TV_-_Sportblitz_mit_Votava.divx

thanks :)

[Sataris]

thanks :)

double thanks :) :)

[ugh]

I think the amount of 1.1 million € for the transfer
confirms that he is ment to be a trouble kid.
Brilliant technique but ...

it`s 1,1, Mio fpr a one year loan with a bying option for 6 Mio after that year.
At least that`s what I read at various places.

btw, Jerome Polenz is leaving for Alemannia Aachen.

[mambo]

Linkage is always nice.
The one i found doesnt say anything about that 6 million, so i would be glad if you could simply add it next time. So hes not that cheap, i hope the thing with loan and option gives him motivation.

[ugh]

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/aktuelles/sport/fussball/bundesliga/werder_bremen/448881
http://www2.onsport.t-online.de/c/11/31/81/10/11318110.html
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,488738,00.html

dunno where I got that 6 Mio from :/
but definately it says about loan and then buy option after a year.

[mambo]

A little Futsol action for you with Diego and Friends :)
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/diego/video/xtjdb_futsal-robinho-falcao-diegoronaldin

[Sataris]

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/221591 :p :p :p

:mad: :mad: :rolleyes:


:p :p :o

nuff said :p

[sweed]

:mad: :mad: :rolleyes:


:p :p :o

nuff said :p

lol he can sing FC Schalke as well :p

[mambo]

All Werder goals 2006/07
Found this fan season review in the official club forums.

http://rapidshare.com/files/39088048/Fertige_Saison.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/39090030/Fertige_Saison.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/39089001/Fertige_Saison.part3.rar.html

[guzmo]

What has happened with Carlos Alberto. It's a shame if HSV is able to snap him from under Werders nose :(

So hopefully there is another late turnaround and Allofs can make the deal permanent.

If not it might may add some more spice to next years derbys. I've heard Allofs is really pissed at this whole affair...

EDIT: as it seems (german source) (http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,490547,00.html) both will miss out on Alberto...

[mambo]

I hate the summer
nothing is happening between the season :(

[Sataris]

I hate the summer
nothing is happening between the season :(

Find a nice macro-compatible lady friend :)

[mambo]

Finally something ....
Klose + Bayern München = done!
http://kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/367164

12million €
plus possible Bonus

[macro]

congratz to the werder guys, you can buy another great prospect and
congratz to the bayern guys obviously, you are finally broke. :D

[Silas]

Finally something ....
Klose + Bayern München = done!
http://kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/367164

12million €
plus possible Bonus
Another deal brokered by mambo. :cool:

[MoFF]

I hate the summer
nothing is happening between the season :(

That's so not true!

Gold Cup, Copa America, Asian Cup...

[Sataris]

congratz to the werder guys, you can buy another great prospect and
congratz to the bayern guys obviously, you are finally broke. :D

:D, deep down I know you still luv us :p

[sweed]

congratz to the werder guys, you can buy another great prospect and
congratz to the bayern guys obviously, you are finally broke. :D

we will NEVER be broke...

*knocks on wood*

;)

[macro]

:D, deep down I know you still luv us :p

sure mate, you know the game,
i see you rolling - i start hating :D :D :D

[sweed]

sure mate, you know the game,
i see you rolling - i start hating :D :D :D

we're gonna catch you riding dirty :eek:

[macro]

we're gonna catch you riding dirty :eek:

omg :eek: note to self: sell the escalade


btw, did you saw that you lost a star on your Bayern thread :p
better get this sorted out before chargin on me :D

[sweed]

omg :eek: note to self: sell the escalade


btw, did you saw that you lost a star on your Bayern thread :p
better get this sorted out before chargin on me :D


THATS IT!

*books the next flight to Frankfurt to make macro pay for us losing our star*

:p

ps. i stole the rims on your escalade, therefore your escalade is now worth half of what its supposed to be :p

[mambo]

Latest news about Ivan Klasnic working on his comeback to be the first professional footballer with a kidney transplant.
http://rapidshare.com/files/39906658/Buten_un_binnen_-_Thema_Klasnic.divx

[guzmo]

Are there any news yet, if Werder plan to bring in a new striker after Klose's departement?

Or are thy sticking with their current attacking options. I mean Klasnic, Rosenberg, Hunt, Almeida and Schindler are all quality strikers, but the first is coming back from some serious "injury" and the others are all lacking a bit of experience.

So what's the status with the Werder attacking line-up?

[Sataris]

random question for macro

how far away from Frankfurt is konigstein?

[mambo]

Are there any news yet, if Werder plan to bring in a new striker after Klose's departement?

Or are thy sticking with their current attacking options. I mean Klasnic, Rosenberg, Hunt, Almeida and Schindler are all quality strikers, but the first is coming back from some serious "injury" and the others are all lacking a bit of experience.

So what's the status with the Werder attacking line-up?

Its not answered yet if Klasnic can do his Comeback.
He is working on it but time will show if its possible.
And its not sure if there will be a new striker-replacement for Klose.
You probably wont find the same quality for decent cash.
So we simply do it like we always did, we build the next Klose ;-)
Austrias U-20 striker Martin Harnik came up from the youth and signed a contract, same as Kevin Schindler signed last year.
Rosenberg is very promising, he scored 9 goals in 14 games. He also plays swedish nt so im sure he will improve. Like Almeida, he has all the premises to become a great striker.

It looks like the Carlos Alberto (http://www.ca19.com.br/capa.asp) deal is coming up in the next hours, but who knows :o


@ Sataris: according to http://www.falk.de its 25 km


edit:
But i think another striker would be good, because Hunt has chronic knee problems :/

[zaffo]

Carlos Alberto, good player kinda got lost when the CL Porto side was broken up.

[WerderBremenYank]

Its not answered yet if Klasnic can do his Comeback.
He is working on it but time will show if its possible.
And its not sure if there will be a new striker-replacement for Klose.
You probably wont find the same quality for decent cash.
So we simply do it like we always did, we build the next Klose ;-)
Austrias U-20 striker Martin Harnik came up from the youth and signed a contract, same as Kevin Schindler signed last year.
Rosenberg is very promising, he scored 9 goals in 14 games. He also plays swedish nt so im sure he will improve. Like Almeida, he has all the premises to become a great striker.

It looks like the Carlos Alberto (http://www.ca19.com.br/capa.asp) deal is coming up in the next hours, but who knows :o


@ Sataris: according to http://www.falk.de its 25 km


whats your source on the Carlos Alberto News? anything in german?

[mambo]

There is a big Infopool about Carlos Alberto in the official Werder Forums with news from all over the world. The owner of Alberto`s transfer rights "MSI" took some kind of option a couple of days ago, which assures that he will be transfered this season. The question is just whereto :o

http://rapidshare.com/files/40635022/Sportblitz_-_Trainingsauftakt_2007.divx
This is the todays "Sportblitz", including manager Allofs having a little word about Alberto, completely in german as you requested :D

[morky]

Carlos Alberto is a player I have admired for some time and wanted to see wearing an Everton shirt. If he does move to Werder, I wish him every success.

Are any Werder Bremen fans on here coming to Liverpool in the Summer for the Everton v Bremen game?

[mambo]

I know we play against Liverpool on 17.07.2007 but thats in Switzerland i think.

edit:
oh here it is
Di 31.07. 21:00 Uhr Testspiel FC Everton - Werder Bremen - Goodison Park, Liverpool


superedit:
here you can find the latest pictures from the training camp
http://www.nordphoto.de/nordphoto-cgi/topixx?op=thumbnails2&req=&grid=20&string=werder&last=#

[mambo]

Contract with Alberto is as good as done.
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/telegramm/Newsticker,rendertext=2096522.html

Im not sure if im happy about it, but at least something happened :o

[WerderBremenYank]

Contract with Alberto is as good as done.
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/telegramm/Newsticker,rendertext=2096522.html

Im not sure if im happy about it, but at least something happened :o


Im very happy about it

[mambo]

according to our brazilian friends, he is mr trouble :/

[WerderBremenYank]

according to our brazilian friends, he is mr trouble :/


So was Ailton

So long as he as dangerous to other teams defenses, i dont mind

[mambo]

Look who finally arrived :rolleyes:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2639/pict0037gq9.jpg
http://www.mediapaste.de/pastes/5/a/5/d/a/d/IMAGE_00035.jpg
http://www.mediapaste.de/pastes/0/4/c/c/0/5/IMAGE_00034.jpg
http://www.ewetel.net/~jannosh/ca2.JPG
http://www.ewetel.net/~jannosh/ca4.JPG
http://www.ewetel.net/~jannosh/ca5.JPG

v/dZDAXQKlC8s

[mambo]

CA still has no contract because of the unclear situation with his transfer rights (who gets the money) :(

So in the meantime here is a little story which happened tuesday morning. A school-class of kids was playing football in the park. Suddenly Carlos Alberto was running around the corner on his daily training ( he is not with the team yet). He showed them some of his tricks and he went wild with the kids, playing around with them. He wrote alot of autographs on their little arms and on paper sheets. And in the end he made a photo with them (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/1119/4pQZzEyA_jpg.htm), so they can remind the moment.
Suprise, looks like he is actualy a very nice guy and not the untouchable cock like many others of these young millionaires :D

edit: wow the photo was uploaded yesterday and has already more than 5000 hits :O

[sweed]

lol is that you off to the side mambo? :p

[mambo]

Straight from the clubforum:

Friendly: Vfl Oldenburg - Werder Bremen

http://rapidshare.com/files/42366259/Sportblitz_11.07.07_-_VFL_Oldenburg___rueckblitz.divx
Highlights & Review

worth a download

[ugh]

13.07.2007, 19:19 Uhr
News
Bundesliga
Werder Sign Carlos Alberto

Carlos Alberto will be pulling on a Werder Bremen jersey in the future. All parties involved in the transfer met on Friday to finalise the deal on the Brazilians move to Bremen and over the next few days the formalities will be completed. Alberto passed his fitness test in Bremen on Thursday and signed on the dotted line on Friday afternoon. A ‘Visitors Pass’ will allow the 22 year old Brazilian to join his new team mates in their training camp and take part in friendly matches. Alberto and Werder general manager Klaus Allofs will travel to Bad Ragaz together on Friday, 14.07.2007 and take questions from the media in a 12:15pm press conference.

The midfielder with the full title, Carlos Alberto Gomes de Jesus, was born in Rio de Janeiro and is looking forward to getting into the Werder kit: “As I was playing for Porto, the name Werder meant something to me. I heard a lot about the club. Werder have a strong team, are successful and appear sympathetic in their attitude. I want to be happy here but I am aware that I have a lot of work to do and will have to train hard if I am to fulfil the expectations of the team, the trainer and the fans”, explained the Brazilian, who is not at all worried about the changes he is expecting to incur: “I was in Bremen for the first time this week and I liked it immediately. Everyone was really nice and friendly to me. I don’t think the integration will be difficult. I have played together with Diego and Hugo Almeida and I know Naldo personally too. We are friends.”

Werder is Alberto’s fourth club as a professional. The midfield man began in Fulminense in 2000 before moving to Porto in 2004. A year later he was signed by Corinthians but returned to Fulminense on loan in 2006.

In 2004 he won the Champions League with FC Porto and then the World Club Championship with Corinthians in 2005. In the Champions League final, the then 19 year old scored the opening goal for his club who then went on to beat AS Monaco 3:0. Last season he scored six goals in twenty games for Fulminense and won the Brazilian cup.

source : http://www.werder.de/english/news/meldung.php?id=901

[sweed]

its official on uefa's website as well ugh :)

link here (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=561156.html)

congrats to you ;) we will still beat you anyways :p

[Sataris]

we will still beat you anyways :p

haha, amen to that! :D

gl this term mambo ;)

you'll need it :p

[mambo]

I dont care about the upcoming League-Cup but we meet for league-matchday 2 in just about 4 weeks. Thats an advantage for us because we basicly have the same team as last year and not like 12 changes.
It will be interesting, as always.

[WerderBremenYank]

I think we'll win both of those games ;)

[macro]

Will be interesting to see how motivated Klose will be in those games and
if Frings will tackle him bad on the field too, not only in the press.

Did i already said that im quiet disappointed with Torsten ?
we don't really know what happened between them so
i just hope they will bury the hatchet soon,
for the sake of the NT.

[mambo]

You read too much Bild my friend :p

[macro]

BILD ?!?!? :eek::confused::mad:;)
no man, i meant his Kicker interview
kicker: Setzt sich Miroslav Klose dort
durch?
Frings: Eigentlich ist es mir egal,
wo er spielt.[...] In Bremen hätte es nur noch Ärger gegeben, weil Miro zuletzt viel kaputt gemacht hat.

it's not the nicest things you can say + it's nothing that should be in the press.

[mambo]

He just said what everyone thought. Whats so bad about these sentences `?

[WerderBremenYank]

Can you blame Torsten? He has been through hell at Munich, and as acting captain last year, he should be very offended if one of his teammates LIED to him, pledging his loyalty to their common club, and then went back on his promise.


Miro could have his leg broken at the Weserstadion and I couldnt care less

[macro]

He just said what everyone thought. Whats so bad about these sentences `?


I mean, does he have to go on about it in the press ?
He just should be happy everything worked out like he wanted and
tell the jerks from the press that he is not talking about Klose anymore.

I really like Torsten but i think he is taking the whole Klose thing a bit to personal.
And somehow i have the feeling the Werder management isn't really appreciating Torstens way to handle it.
He def. weakened Werders bargaining hand when they were negotiating with Bayern.
I'm afraid stuff like that isn't really helping Torsten to get his desired Skippers armband.

Can you blame Torsten? He has been through hell at Munich, and as acting captain last year, he should be very offended if one of his teammates LIED to him, pledging his loyalty to their common club, and then went back on his promise.

Klose did a huge mistake, no doubt, but i don't think he intended any harm.
Imho he's just a bit naive and he's been taken in by the evil evil sausage devil. :D
In my picture he thought he had to lie when his meeting with the vicious wiener king leaked.
I wonder who gave the press a hint. :rolleyes:

[mambo]

"vicious wiener king "

hahaha :D
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6418/replx0.png

[sweed]

I mean, does he have to go on about it in the press ?
He just should be happy everything worked out like he wanted and
tell the jerks from the press that he is not talking about Klose anymore.

I really like Torsten but i think he is taking the whole Klose thing a bit to personal.
And somehow i have the feeling the Werder management isn't really appreciating Torstens way to handle it.
He def. weakened Werders bargaining hand when they were negotiating with Bayern.
I'm afraid stuff like that isn't really helping Torsten to get his desired Skippers armband.



Klose did a huge mistake, no doubt, but i don't think he intended any harm.
Imho he's just a bit naive and he's been taken in by the evil evil sausage devil. :D
In my picture he thought he had to lie when his meeting with the vicious wiener king leaked.
I wonder who gave the press a hint. :rolleyes:

i'll show you a vicious wiener king! :mad: :p :D

You are right in that Frings didn't help Bremens bargaining power but Bremen ended up alright so no harm no foul i suppose.

Can you blame Torsten? He has been through hell at Munich, and as acting captain last year, he should be very offended if one of his teammates LIED to him, pledging his loyalty to their common club, and then went back on his promise.


Miro could have his leg broken at the Weserstadion and I couldnt care less

I think Miro is really looking forward to taking on you guys and does have a personal vendetta against Frings.

But, Frings is no saint himself. He went to Juve and had a meeting with Juve officials. Just because he rejected them doesn't make him any more right. I think Frings is just as guilty as Klose is/was.

and btw, Klose will score 4 goals with the non-broken leg :p ;)

[mambo]

Personal vendetta ... no way :p
He had a warm home here for alot of years.
This club is like a family. Thats the reason why difficult characters like Ailton (and many others) made it here. You cant say that of many other Bundesliga-clubs and Klose had the luck to enjoy this family for years.
You cant cut that out of your heart with a simple interview.

And all in all i cant see whats so bad about this specific interview. Its obvious that the situation with the Fans was fucked up after he went to illegal contract negotiations with our eternal rival 2 days before the semi finals and of course the team (his family :)) was disappointed of that behavior

[jr!]

Frings is a grade A asshole.
He was a jerk in Dortmund, dividing the dressing room 'coz he was Sammer's darling, then demanded to be sold to Bayern after Sammer was axed, so he could win a championship, but he didn't win too many friends there either.

[emashdad]

Frings is a grade A asshole.
He was a jerk in Dortmund, dividing the dressing room 'coz he was Sammer's darling, then demanded to be sold to Bayern after Sammer was axed, so he could win a championship, but he didn't win too many friends there either.

In addition to all that, his hair looks ridiculous too! :p

[WerderBremenYank]

In addition to all that, his hair looks ridiculous too! :p

I agree with you 100 percent about his hair :D


Frings is a jerk about this, because he has seen how 'big clubs' ie, clubs that are really merchandizing corporations, operate.

Klose will be taken out of the game at the Weserstadion. I dont mean through injury, I mean by man marking

[mambo]

Frings is a grade A asshole...


He might be an asshole, but he`s our asshole ;)

And he is not the big one you might want to make us think he is.
The A-Grade is already taken by players like Effenberg or Matthäus.
Even if he tried hard, he wouldnt come close to these brainless wankers :p

And Frings acted loyal here in Bremen, he is ripping his heart out for team and fans.
Even if people come with this Juventus-story...
hey its one of the biggest fucking clubs in the world, one of the very few big ass clubs,
the dream of every player!
Even if he had left us for them, he would still have alot of friends and fans here in Bremen.

[emashdad]

He might be an asshole, but he`s our asshole ;)


I'm right there with you mambo, about all my teams!

[sweed]

Frings is a grade A asshole.


this is true. he can't have it both ways (go to juve and call out a team mate for doing the same thing)

[mambo]

this is true. he can't have it both ways (go to juve and call out a team mate for doing the same thing)

Nope, you compare apples with oranges.
Frings was never involved in secret meetings or illegal contract negotiations, like Klose was.

Frings put his cards on the table, told everyone about it.
Klose prefered to meet the evil sausage fairy Hoeness in secret, two days before our semifinal.

Dont you see the difference ?0o

[sweed]

Nope, you compare apples with oranges.
Frings was never involved in secret meetings or illegal contract negotiations, like Klose was.

Frings put his cards on the table, told everyone about it.
Klose prefered to meet the evil sausage fairy Hoeness in secret, two days before our semifinal.

Dont you see the difference ?0o

nope. they were both involved with other clubs secret or no secret.

[WerderBremenYank]

nope. they were both involved with other clubs secret or no secret.

Yes, but Frings, who has learned from past mistakes, picked love of club over money.


Klose hasnt, he needed a bigger paycheck to pay for his hair highlights...


by the same token i guess we dont pay Frings enough to get a HAIR CUT

[guzmo]

Yes, but Frings, who has learned from past mistakes, picked love of club over money.


Klose hasnt, he needed a bigger paycheck to pay for his hair highlights...


by the same token i guess we dont pay Frings enough to get a HAIR CUT

Aehm? He found out that the club he "loves" was willing to pay the money he thought he earned, when he pushed hard enough... Wouldn't call that love :o

What this bitching on Klose is about only he knows. Considering his end of season poker, he should be the last to open his mouth on Klose's actions... Yeah this secret meeting was stupid on Klose's behalf, but still: both had shit on their boots last season.

Btw, what do a players hair or looks have any importance when it comes to football? :rolleyes:

[mambo]

Aehm? He found out that the club he "loves" was willing to pay the money he thought he earned, when he pushed hard enough... Wouldn't call that love :o

What this bitching on Klose is about only he knows. Considering his end of season poker, he should be the last to open his mouth on Klose's actions... Yeah this secret meeting was stupid on Klose's behalf, but still: both had shit on their boots last season.

Btw, what do a players hair or looks have any importance when it comes to football? :rolleyes:


Dude we are not Manchester :p
He would have earned alot more money in Turin than he gets in Bremen now.

FFS he is the best german midfielder, its not for granted that he stays. I would even say it was highly unlike. Because we dont buy big players, we build them.
He gets 4 million € per anno now, i guess even the 2nd goalkeeper in Manchester gets a bigger paycheck.

When one of the very very big clubs (big in history and in business) like Juve aims for you, you dont directly say no, unless you already play for one of the big clubs like Real or Manchester.

We dont pay as much as you do and we dont have Manchesters chances for big titles.
Look where we came from and where we are now
and he decided to be part of a further step for the club.
So for many Bremen-fans he is now a hero ;)

edit:
And for Klose: He always stated that when he moves, then only in another country and a transfer within the league is out of question. And additional to that secret meeting, two days later he made a lousy dive and earned a red card in the most important match of the season.

So that what Frings said, what you accuse him here for (free translations: In Bremen he would have had alot of trouble (with the fans), because Miro lately destroyed too much (trust)) was directly hitting the point.

[sweed]

Dude we are not Manchester :p
He would have earned alot more money in Turin than he gets in Bremen now.

FFS he is the best german midfielder, its not for granted that he stays. I would even say it was highly unlike.
He gets 4 million € per anno now, i guess even the 2nd goalkeeper in Manchester has a bigger paycheck.

When one of the very very big clubs (big in history and in business) like Juve aims for you, you dont directly say no, unless you already play for one of the big clubs like Real or Manchester.

We dont buy big players, we build them.

We dont pay as much as you do and we dont have Manchesters chances for big titles.
Look where we came from and where we are now
and he decided to be part of a further step for the club.
So for many Bremen-fans he is now a hero ;)

edit:
And for Klose: He always stated that when he moves, then only in another country and a transfer within in the league is out of question. And additional to that secret meeting, two days later he made a lousy dive and earned a red card in the most important match of the season.

So that what Frings said, what you accuse him here for (free translations: In Bremen he would have had alot of trouble (with the fans), because Miro lately destroyed too much (trust)) was directly hitting the point.

Frings being the best midfielder in Germany is HUGELY debateable. He is probably very influential but not the best.

[WerderBremenYank]

just so long as im reading this, make sure you guys check out that 93-94 CL Werder vs Anderlecht game

[Macrafta]

Anyone going to watch the Werder - Liverpool Game?

[mambo]

Frings being the best midfielder in Germany is HUGELY debateable. He is probably very influential but not the best.

Who else ?

When i think of the last 2 years, then only Ballack comes into my mind, but he had a crap last year. He was running his lung out, but he didnt earned much applause :(
Schneider comes closest in my eyes (this year, not the one before), but he hadnt the chance to measure his skills with Barca or Chelsea in big games, and with his 35years no big club would give him a big contract.

[sweed]

Who else ?

When i think of the last 2 years, then only Ballack comes into my mind, but he had a crap last year. He was running his lung out, but he didnt earned much applause :(
Schneider comes closest in my eyes (this year, not the one before), but he hadnt the chance to measure his skills with Barca or Chelsea in big games, and with his 35years no big club would give him a big contract.

are we talking in terms of NT or Club level?

NT wise i would say Ballack
Club level i would say Schneider

[guzmo]

Dude we are not Manchester :p
He would have earned alot more money in Turin than he gets in Bremen now.

FFS he is the best german midfielder, its not for granted that he stays. I would even say it was highly unlike. Because we dont buy big players, we build them.
He gets 4 million € per anno now, i guess even the 2nd goalkeeper in Manchester gets a bigger paycheck.

When one of the very very big clubs (big in history and in business) like Juve aims for you, you dont directly say no, unless you already play for one of the big clubs like Real or Manchester.

We dont pay as much as you do and we dont have Manchesters chances for big titles.
Look where we came from and where we are now
and he decided to be part of a further step for the club.
So for many Bremen-fans he is now a hero ;)

edit:
And for Klose: He always stated that when he moves, then only in another country and a transfer within the league is out of question. And additional to that secret meeting, two days later he made a lousy dive and earned a red card in the most important match of the season.

So that what Frings said, what you accuse him here for (free translations: In Bremen he would have had alot of trouble (with the fans), because Miro lately destroyed too much (trust)) was directly hitting the point.

And Juve isn't Manchester United either. They are paying a good dime, but not that much more, than Bremen offered in the end. There is good money paid in the Bundesliga as well, and Seria A isn't the land of milk and honey anymore.

But fact is, that Bremen upped their level of wages to keep him, and if they hadn't there wouldn't been such painstaking statements like: "Oh I love my club...bla,bla,bla".

So one player who considered changing clubs for money reasons, bitches on another for doing the same thing? Nah, not good style...
Only more sad that he is put on hero status by Bremen fans, for this BS he put on display in the last few months...

And scapegoating Klose for that cup mess at Barcelona is really the easiest thing to do... :rolleyes:? This way the other players don't have to take blame for their own effort in that game. And the red card is to blame on the ref, and the ref only, not that it mattered anyway after that first leg... (btw. he was red carded in the return leg, 2 weeks after that Bayern Klose meeting, Wiese was red carded at Barcelona... ;) Who was the Werder Fan here, again? :p)

Klose had a lousy spell to the end of the season, but he doesn't deserve all the venom shot at him, especially not from Frings. It seems to get a bit of habit in the Bundesliga to pull the players through the mud after they leave. First Ballack, now Klose...?

Btw. mentioning United doesn't have anything to do with nothing, has it? Or did I miss something?

[mambo]

Im gonna tell you, its because i want to make one point visible for you:
You obviously think that we pay top wages, but we dont.

For you as Manchester Fan its a sure thing that players dont leave your club, no ...they are sold.
So here is the difference, we build the players, you buy the players.

Players like Carew or Baros prefered playing in the lower region of the Premier League instead of coming to us ...BECAUSE YOU EARN MUCH MORE MONEY WHEN YOU PLAY FOR ASTON VILLA INSTEAD OF PLAYING FOR WERDER. Is it so hard to get :rolleyes:

In Turin Frings would have earned probably 2 or 3 million € more each year than he earns now.

Dont tell me you cant buy much milk & honey for that money.

edit:
And the Bremen-Fans are not upset about Klose leaving. Nope, that was obvious.
They are angry because he did it the dirty way, without class and because he did the opposite of what he promised all the years.

[guzmo]

Im gonna tell you...
For you as Manchester Fan its a sure thing that players dont leave your club, no ...they are sold.
So there is the difference, we build the players, you buy the players.

I won't even comment on this BS... Don't believe everything the Bild want's to make you believe...

Players like Carew or Baros prefered playing in the lower region of the Premier League instead of coming to us ...BECAUSE YOU EARN MUCH MORE MONEY WHEN YOU PLAY FOR ASTON VILLA INSTEAD OF PLAYING FOR WERDER. Is it so hard to get

So u're blaming me cause as a United fan for english clubs snapping players from under your nose? :rolleyes:
But considering players prefer the Prem, there are other factors to mention: higher competition, better NT perspective, language, and in general some players tend to think that live in Germany is just not as pleasent as in Italy, Spain or England, not my view, but we're not speaking about me...

Yeah some of it is based on money as well, but do you wan't to blame the good work of many men over the years to make the Prem what it is nowadays? Without that no one had ever been interested in buying clubs and putting money in it... (even though even in the Prem funds aren't unlimited)

In Turin Frings would have earned probably 2 or 3 million € more each year than he earns now.

Who says? Noone has seen any contract details, so these figures can be true or cannot. And even when, there was still the risk of not being the big star anymore, taking the bench place more than not. He knew how that felt at Bayern...

But nevertheless, no player deserves the treatment Klose got, as none of his colleages can in all honesty state, that he would "love" his club, when the money wasn't right.

[mambo]

Its getting hard not to take your post offending, but i will have try. Lets start with..

I won't even comment on this BS... Don't believe everything the Bild want's to make you believe...


Why is this BS and what has it to do with reading yellow press or not ?
I just stated facts. You pay big for big transfers, we dont. Its simple as that.
What exactly is wrong with that statement in your eyes ? Details please.


So u're blaming me cause as a United fan for english clubs snapping players from under your nose?
But considering players prefer the Prem, there are other factors to mention: higher competition, better NT perspective, language, and in general some players tend to think that live in Germany is just not as pleasent as in Italy, Spain or England, not my view, but we're not speaking about me...

Yeah some of it is based on money as well, but do you wan't to blame the good work of many men over the years to make the Prem what it is nowadays? Without that no one had ever been interested in buying clubs and putting money in it... (even though even in the Prem funds aren't unlimited)

Wtf are you drunk ? Any other drugs ? This is seriously mental :p
I just said you earn more money there (and i dont blame anyone for taking it!), not more, not less.

And these 2 examples i gave are already undisputed NT-players.
They could play for Scumford FC in the 7th league and still play the Euro 08.

However, i dont see why not playing Champions League gives you higher chances for the NT,
but im sure you know.

Btw some people think living in England is not as pleasant as living in Germany.
Sorry, but i think youre the one bringing BS in here.




Who says? Noone has seen any contract details, so these figures can be true or cannot. And even when, there was still the risk of not being the big star anymore, taking the bench place more than not. He knew how that felt at Bayern...

Me, believe it or not.
I dont care ;)

But one last time, only for you, and very easy to remind:
WE DONT PAY TOP WAGES!
but Juve does.
Juventus may not pay like Barca, Chelsea, Manchester, Real ...but still much more than Bremen.

But nevertheless, no player deserves the treatment Klose got, as none of his colleages can in all honesty state, that he would "love" his club, when the money wasn't right.

What treatment did he get exactly ? Details please.
I simply dont think you know what youre talking about.

[guzmo]

Its getting hard not to take your post offending, but i will have try. Lets start with..

This works both ways.

Why is this BS and what has it to do with reading or not reading yellow press ?
I just stated facts. What exactly was BS in your eyes ? Details please.

So there is the difference, we build the players, you buy the players.

United trains players from the scratch (http://www.powersoccer.ca/articles.php?aid=21), buys youth talents to train them further and buys senior players just as any other club. Sometimes we are lucky, sometimes not with the quality those youth players develop in the end. There are enough examples where we were lucky (Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Wes Brown, Fletcher, O'Shea)

Facts :confused:

WTF ? Sorry for asking, but are you drunk ? First of all these 2 are already undisputed NT-player!

And Baros not even playing in the Prem, more a general statement on this "money is the only reason" rant...

I just said you earn more money there. I dont blame anyone for taking it.
However, i dont see why not playing Champions League gives you higher chances for the NT,
but im sure you know.

See (league) competition.

Btw some people think living in England is not as pleasant as living in Germany. That argument is just weak.

As I said, point of view.

Me, believe it or not.

Not, without proof or good sources.

What treatment did he get exactly ? Details please.
I simply dont think you know what youre talking about.

That Frings thrashing Klose stuff we're talking about :rolleyes:

I dont care ;)

At last we've somthing in common. I have my opinion, you have yours, so just keep it that way.

[mambo]

This quoting is way too much work so lets try it different.

1. See, so lets get back to nice :)

2. Yes, facts.
But i never said they dont train/build new/young players, did I ?

What i am saying about the difference is this:
In Example 2004/05 (btw you can do it with every year)

Manchester:
Ivan Gabriel Heinze (Paris St. Germain) 10.400.000
Alan Smith (Leeds United) 9.000.000
Pique (FC Barcelona B) 5.250.000
Wayne Rooney (FC Everton) 37.000.000

Werder Bremen:
Ümit Davala (Inter Mailand) 500.000
Valérien Ismaël (Racing Straßburg) 750.000
Miroslav Klose (1.FC Kaiserslautern) 5.000.000
Daniel Jensen (Real Murcia) 1.000.000
Petri Pasanen (Ajax Amsterdam) 750.000
Mohamed Zidan (FC Midtjylland) 500.000

See the difference, its pretty obvious^^

3: Not anymore, but what was the point here ?
Ahh yes the money. Thats what everyone wants to have.

4. Yes the premier legue is nice, but champions league is nicer :D

5. Why bring it then in the first place ?

6. Okay writing in big red letters doesnt make it, lets try something else.
This is a VERY small town. Means no big sponsors, no big attendences, no big TV-money, no fancy Investors ... we´re an exception in Europe.

Thats why its so fucking impossible to keep the top-players in our team, to sign a new contract with them.
Frings got the highest contract in our club history, and of course its still not as much as top-players get in Turin. They´re simply 2 sizes bigger than we are. Thats no secret.

7. yay yay still no details :p

8. At least we try, thats nothing bad.

[pnqiu]

that carlos alberto is not in the same league of diego...or maybe he might needs time to settle in but from the friendly game against liverpool he didnt show nothing much..how much bremen paid for him?

[mambo]

He is here for just 1 week. Come on give it some time ;)
Im sure he will have a big impact in the League, his technique is awesome and his dribblings as good as Diegos.

[mambo]

Allofs + Hoeneß fighting a battle but the fans have the last word :D

v/zSy_WnnDL2A

[macro]

Hoeness du arschloch

rofl

[sweed]

could someone translate that :o it looked like a nice argument :)

[macro]

R: did you met each other after the Klose deal ?
H: Nope,[...] there were some badmouthing form some werder players,
miro did nothing wrong so we don't understand why they talk shit.
R: Frings and Wiese said Klose can't kick a ball.
A: The media is just hyping the story and trying to spark fire.
the only thing we are really pissed about is that Miro met Uli right before that crucial game.
R: is that matter settled ?
H: Yep
A: Yo

R: To Allofs: the papers say you said Klose can't kick a ball
A: [...]That was taken out of context [...]
H: to Allofs: you are profeesional enough to know that you can't say anything bad about someone without the media makes a big fuss about it.
A: [brap]
H: I think it sucks
R: Are you cool with what Allofs said ?
H: I think it shouldn't have happened
R: [...]
A: I like to point out that Werder Bremen did nothing wrong and
Klose was not denigrated.
H: You heated up the fans against us (gets angry)
R: is that right ?
A: Nope, was the media not us.
H: Did you at least talked to the fans that don't stop shout insulting chants ?
.....i would have done that. (really angry)
A: Yes ? you just been behind the goal, did you hear your fans insulting Wiese ?
H: [brap]
A: did you listen what they were saying ?
H: *hoeness declines* - now hes really pissed :D
** you hear the werder fans chanting 'Hoeness you asshole' **
A: we shouldn't overvalue the whole thing, the fans got inflamed[...]
H: If you give the media something to inflame...
R: man you guys have issues !?!
A: [repeating what he said already]
H: [uber pissed]

[jr!]

ha ha, too funny. Is this bad blood new between these 2 teams, or is this old?

[Butterfly]

Hey guys!
I heard Werder was looking at Luyindula from Paris... Is that true???

[sweed]

ha ha, too funny. Is this bad blood new between these 2 teams, or is this old?

its all from the klose saga. its still boiling over thanks to premiere :)

btw, I LOVE HOENESS!!!

p.s. Allofs looks like an ant :p

[mambo]

Hey guys!
I heard Werder was looking at Luyindula from Paris... Is that true???

Yes there are a couple of names involved atm, like Tosic, Nilmar, Luyindula, Sanogo, Anelka, Milan Jovanovic, Lius Suarez ...and so on ;)
We need another striker, but according to Allofs the market is overheatet atm so it might take a while.


@ macro
Just want to complete that last situation,
the part when the sausage king sais smthg like: "if our fans would do smthg like that (insult other team players) i would go there and stop them" and then Allofs asked him where he was, one moment ago as the Bayernfans insulted Wiese and suddenly Hoeneß is not replying anymore.

Thats the worst part in my eyes, with Hoeneß setting double standards once again, one for himself and one for everyone else. And thats the perfect moment for the Fans to come up with "Hoeneß du Arschloch" :D Even Hollywood couldnt have done a better job :p

edit: Wasnt there alot of blasphemy from Rummenige when Ballack left bayern `?

[Butterfly]

Yes there are a couple of names involved atm, like Tosic, Nilmar, Luyindula, Sanogo, Anelka, Milan Jovanovic, Lius Suarez ...and so on ;)
We need another striker, but according to Allofs the market is overheatet atm so it might take a while.Ok, thanks! Namy names so i guess you'll be able to get something better than Luyindula :D

[Sataris]

so this is where you've been hiding then mambo ;)

and yes The bavarian sausage kings are once again > to mambo's panty raiders ;):p

[jr!]

Höhenass is an ass!

[mambo]

...and yes The bavarian sausage kings are once again > to mambo's panty raiders ;):p

Jaja you play against albanian top teams while we play Championsleague ;)

[sweed]

Höhenass is an ass!

haha thats true but hes a legend now :)

Jaja you play against albanian top teams while we play Championsleague ;)

and you will go out in the first round and we will the whole competition ;)

[jr!]

Ah yes,
FCB, champions of the 2007-2008 "Losers Cup", should we have the printer make up the T-shirts & hats now? LOL!

[macro]

Just want to complete that last situation,
the part when the sausage king sais smthg like: "if our fans would do smthg like that (insult other team players) i would go there and stop them" and then Allofs asked him where he was, one moment ago as the Bayernfans insulted Wiese and suddenly Hoeneß is not replying anymore.

Thanks, got this totally wrong, edited my post should be ok now.

[mambo]

...and you will go out in the first round and we will the whole competition ;)

Ahh predictions for next season.
It might take a while but i will come back to that and then congratulate or have a good laugh about you.

[Splatypus]

Had to cap and post this :)

v/dkbo2liF4kM

[varun]

That is fvcking brilliant :eek: I'm amazed Diego is still at Bremen. After last year I expected him to be heading to a bigger club....no offence to Bremen :o

[Sataris]

That is fvcking brilliant :eek: I'm amazed Diego is still at Bremen. After last year I expected him to be heading to a bigger club....no offence to Bremen :o

when you've got fans like mambo, I can understand why he'd want to stay :o

nicest fans are BL fans :)

sept for macro (he's just nuts :p)

[mambo]

Oh no we bought Sano go :(

[sweed]

Oh no we bought Sano go :(

haha gotta love allofs :p


btw. some of you might get this...

Gary Bettman ----------------------------------------- Klaus Allofs
http://fussball.germanblogs.de/pub/germanblogs/fussball/allofs.jpg http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/michael_farber/02/08/nhl/p1_bettman.jpg

[mambo]

Oh yes, both are shaved, have short hair and wear a suit. You cant say that very often :rolleyes:

[emashdad]

Oh no we bought Sano go :(

4.5 million euro - wow! Hopefully you guys won't boo him off the pitch like ours fans did! :D

[sweed]

Oh yes, both are shaved, have short hair and wear a suit. You cant say that very often :rolleyes:

and one very important thing, they both suck :p ;) i kid i kid. except i hate bettman :)

[jr!]

me too, what a bumbling idiot!

[mambo]

Just for you Sweed, taste your own medicine ;)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3633/lalom6.jpg

edit: thats what i call good humiliation :p

[sweed]

Just for you Sweed, taste your own medicine ;)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3633/lalom6.jpg

edit: thats what i call good humiliation :p

yes i've known about that one ;) touche :)

[mambo]

yes i've known about that one ;) touche :)

Mhh you already knew that one ?
I doubt that, because i created that one myself a couple of minutes ago, just for you ;)

[KevinGarnet]

it is really great team.. i think this season it play really great and i think they can win title.. i like this team..

[Sataris]

settle down you two

besides i've found a pic of mambo :D

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4213/hamhd3.gif

not very nice mambo :(

[sweed]

Mhh you already knew that one ?
I doubt that, because i created that one myself a couple of minutes ago, just for you ;)

ive seen those pics before and have put two and two together ;)

[mambo]

haha good find Sataris :D

@ sweed: i hope it wasnt in a gayporn :p

[Sataris]

haha good find Sataris :D

@ sweed: i hope it wasnt in a gayporn :p

sweed doesn't roll that way ;)

at least i hope not :eek:

[mambo]

Frings is rolling on chrome now (wheelchair), crutiate ligament ruptur.
These days its no fun being Werder-fan :rolleyes:

[Sataris]

Frings is rolling on chrome now (wheelchair), crutiate ligament ruptur.
These days its no fun being Werder-fan :rolleyes:

:eek: when did this happen? :eek:

any word on how long his recovery will be?

hope werder get by without him :o

suxors :(

[mambo]

In yesterdays friendly against Paderborn, that injury means at least 6 month recovery :(

[macro]

dear jesus, that sucks, who you gonna play on his position?
Is Baumann ready for action ???

[Sataris]

whose going to be long haired midfielder for bremen?

i feel for you mambo :(

[emashdad]

Not so fast! It looks like only a 6 week absence after all. Werder dodges a bullet! Article here (http://www.bundesliga.de/en/liga/news/2007/index.php?f=70322.php&fla=4).

[steve85]

Not so fast! It looks like only a 6 week absence after all. Werder dodges a bullet! Article here (http://www.bundesliga.de/en/liga/news/2007/index.php?f=70322.php&fla=4).

Also a big relief for our national squad!:D

[sensuppe]

I'm late with this one sorry, but that's a great photo. :-)

[werder]

Tomorrow against Dinamo Zagreb at home in the Champions League qualification. If they don't win with a comfortable difference I see them running into difficulties whilst playing in Zagreb.

With so many players injured, others not really fit, it is, I find, impossible to make an kind of a decent accessment of what they are capable of at the moment.

I reckon it's going to need a lot of "roll up your sleeves and give all" to be able to position themselves amongst the first five in the Bundesliga for the time being. Yet I have hope that those on the pitch shall get their thing together and play as a team and within time the injured shall return.

[mambo]

Look who is back in the team-training, its Ivan Klasnic :)

http://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_070927_ms10.jpg

http://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_070927_k22.jpg

9month after his kidney surgery he is the first pro footballer who tries to get back on the pitch
with a kidney transplantation.

[werder]

Yes, wonderful news that Ivan is on his way back, it must be a big step for him. I sincerely hope the day shall come when he really will play again; I just hope also that I will be there because it will be nice and loud.

[macro]

hehe perfect match

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6598/vlcsnap120335pw1.jpg

[sweed]

Spoilers
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Vander cost you the three points. And a pretty bad second half collapse.

[fanOfBayern]

embarassing defeat indeed..

1-3 loss to Olympiakos????...that too at home!!!...

Bremen has some serious work to do...:eek:

[mambo]

embarassing defeat indeed..

1-3 loss to Olympiakos????...that too at home!!!...

Bremen has some serious work to do...:eek:


Dude we cannot win 8-1 every day

and at least that was the first club of the town :D (actualy the 1st of greece)
Embarassing is that you have to meet the 3rd or 4th club of Lisbon
and Sarajevo or Rabotnicki or whatever follows next :rolleyes:

[Sataris]

Dude we cannot win 8-1 every day

and at least that was the first club of the town :D
Embarassing is that you have to meet the 3rd or 4th club of Lisbon
and Sarajevo or Rabotnicki or whatever follows next :rolleyes:

now now mambo

play nice

PS: Your sig changes like every day :eek:

[fanOfBayern]

Dude we cannot win 8-1 every day

and at least that was the first club of the town :D (actualy the 1st of greece)
Embarassing is that you have to meet the 3rd or 4th club of Lisbon
and Sarajevo or Rabotnicki or whatever follows next :rolleyes:

Will bremen manage at least 3rd place so that we can meet you guys in UEFA??
But still, I was hoping that at least one German team will make it through to the knock outs of CL...The only team that had any chance was Bremen and they blew it by losing to weakest team in the group...that too, at home!!!
I am not saying that you have to win 8-1 every game..but you just can't lose 3-1 at home to the weakest team in the group..

[mambo]

Its 2 of 6 now, nothing is over yet.

[Sataris]

of course it's not

Rather Bremen win the CL then Bayern win the Uefa cup tbh

esp now that i have $50 @ $101.00

i'll be waving my little bremen flag :)

go mambo!

[fanOfBayern]

Its 2 of 6 now, nothing is over yet.

I really hope so....We want Bremen to go through...;)

[mambo]

Chakachakachaka Ivan Klasnic is back in the competition :D
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87415
http://www.nordphoto.de/nordphoto-cgi/topixx?op=thumbnails2&req=&grid=20&string=werder&last=#
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/8695/prenor071030ta25hr4.jpg

[macro]

mama said knock you out
lol
http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/3000/artikel/583745/sanogo_carlosalberto-1195755969.jpg

[DanneS]

I see things are looking good for Bremen, they're sniffing at the high heels of Bayern München and they are ready to bite.
And the players are on fire. One point behind, don't waste it at Cottbus!

[Hajduk]

is klasnic going to start vs hamburg?

[mambo]

Probably Rosenberg and Sanogo after their fantastic performance gainst Real Madrid

[Sataris]

I hope Klasnic starts pwning when he starts

except when he plays us of course :cool:

[jimmy]

bremen probably my favourite german team. really enjoy them and not just for the purpose of watching diego.

good team.

hope they beat bayern 12-0 whenever they play, also, would very much like them to face celtic in the champions league.. maybe i could visit the city, and bed your ladies

[Sataris]

hope they beat bayern 12-0

and bed your ladies

*declares war on 404*

[jimmy]

*declares war on 404**extends hand in friendship*

[Sataris]

*extends hand in friendship*

*accept's 404's request for physical interaction*

[jimmy]

*accept's 404's request for physical interaction*
*unzips trousers*

[Sataris]

*unzips trousers*

what the hell is that thing? :eek:

[jimmy]

what the hell is that thing? :eek:i present you, my, very own, werder bremen g-string!!! :D:D:D

[Sataris]

i present you, my, very own, werder bremen g-string!!! :D:D:D

You have successfuly ruined football for me :mad:

:p

[higuita]

Thankyou to both of you two gentlemen for putting a smile on my face after the game this week :D

[DanneS]

Come on Diego! :cool:

And Rosenberg is working hard to fick Leverkusen back to Bayern. :cool:

Edit.
...und Der Fritz tut das auch.

[mambo]

Come on Diego! :cool:

And Rosenberg is working hard to fick Leverkusen back to Bayern. :cool:

Edit.
...und Der Fritz tut das auch.


...and Ivan Klasnic :eek:
Back in the start formation and he scores double
thats like a fairytale
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3483/cheersrl8.gif

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7544/pregt6.jpg

[sportsmen]

Could somebody explain me what business with Tim Borowski is all about?

[mambo]

He was always injured for one and a half year.
Looks like that: He comes back, plays a match or two and then he is injured again. So after all the recovering from injuries he is in a terrible form at the moment and he had a disastrous match against Olympiakos.

His contract is running out by the end of this season so he also might be a little nervous because every footballer wants to upgrade the money.

[sportsmen]

Did fans boo him? Because after the first goal he made a gesture.

[mambo]

I have no idea because unfortunately i wasnt there but i wouldnt be suprised because he definately deserved some after that horrible performance against Olympiakos and yesterday after those passes into the nowhere :p

But what a Christmas fairy tale it was after all, even Petri Pasanen became "Petrinho" http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4113/w13zo2.gif

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6792/vlcsnapdq2.png

[Sataris]

wow, i'm so happy for klasnic :)

hope this means he can get on with his career with no further injuries :)
and LOL @ Petrinho :p

[Hajduk]

same here i was so happy to hear this
klasnic is one of my fav players i cant wait for him to play for croatia

[mambo]

Nice to see the good work getting attention :o


From The Times
December 17, 2007
Thomas Schaaf and Bremen lead the goal rush

There’s a cliché that managers like to trot out: “We want to score one goal more than our opponents rather than conceding one fewer.” It’s supposed to indicate an attacking mentality. Many talk the talk. But one club walk the walk more than any other in Europe.

Werder Bremen are, statistically at least, the most potent attacking force in Europe’s big five leagues. Through Saturday, they have scored 42 league goals in 17 matches, an average of 2.47, which puts the other top scorers to shame: Real Madrid (2.26 goals per game), Inter Milan (2.2), Arsenal (2.06) and Lyons (2.06).

Credit Thomas Schaaf, their long-standing manager. He may lack the-sophistication effected by other managers, but when it comes to attacking, he lives and dies by the sword.

Bremen lie joint-top of the Bundesliga, alongside free-spending Bayern Munich, which in itself is quite a feat. But they have also suffered the most brutal of injury crises.Patrick Owomoyela and Pierre Womé, the full backs, have been sidelined all season., Clemens Fritz, another full back, has missed six weeks. But he got off lightly compared with the two men who were supposed to provide the steel in Bremen’s midfield: Tim Borowski was out for two months, while Torsten Frings has made only three league starts.

It gets even worse up front. Ivan Klasnic, the Croatia striker who underwent a kidney transplant, returned to action only three weeks ago. Aaron Hunt, the Germany Under21 striker, was shelved until this month. And Carlos Alberto, the Brazil international who is the club’s record signing at £5.2 million, has yet to start a Bundesliga match.

Imagine Arsenal losing Bacary Sagna, Gaël Clichy, Emannuel Eboué, Gilberto Silva, Alexander Hleb, Emmanuel Adebayor, Robin van Persie and Theo Walcott: you get the picture.

The bizarre thing is that Bremen did not change. They simply kept scoring, despite losing Miroslav Klose, their star striker, last summer. But, with Klose gone and Klasnic, Hunt and Carlos Alberto absent, they pulled two forwards out of the hat: Hugo Almeida and Boubacar Sanogo. Both have overachieved. The lanky Almeida, a reserve last season, and the unheralded Sanogo, a globetrotting Ivorian, who scored only four times in 31 games for SV Hamburg last year, have struck 13 league goals between them.

What all this suggests is that Bremen are prolific not because of the personnel, but because of the system. This was obvious again on Saturday, when Sanogo and Almeida were missing. They nevertheless pum-melled Bayer Leverkusen 5-2, with Klasnic getting his first two goals with his new kidney. Both Leverkusen goals were the result of an exposed defence. If Naldo and Per Mertesacker were not having superb seasons, Bremen would have conceded more.

Some suggest that, without Diego, the gifted Brazil international, who orchestrates every attack from the hole, none of this would be possible. But Bremen were a free-scoring side even before the 22-year-old’s arrival.

But you have to go back to Schaaf. True, his cavalier attitude towards the defensive side leaves his team open to embarrassing defeats, as shown in the Champions League, where they beat Lazio and Real Madrid, but were humbled twice by Olympiacos. Yet, overall, Bremen come out ahead.

You cannot help but wonder if the Schaaf method could work on a bigger stage, with better players. A one-club man who joined Bremen as an 11-year-old and worked his way into the first team and up the coaching ladder, Schaaf has not shown any desire to leave the Bundesliga. But then, despite winning two German Cups and the 2004 league title, no big clubs have come knocking. Perhaps it is time they did. At 46 he is entering the prime of his managerial career. If you want entertainment and plenty of goals, Schaaf may just fit the bill.

Satellites’ lack of vision

AC Milan won the Club World Cup yesterday, defeating Boca Juniors in a match that had everything, including six goals and two red cards. Of course, you would not have seen this game in the United Kingdom, despite the eight sports channels available on satellite. You would have been enjoying recorded coverage of the luge World Cup, recorded coverage of the A1 Grand Prix, or something called Seamaster sailing.

The naysayers call it a tinpot competition, pointing out that Milan and Boca beat sides from Japan and Tunisia in the semi-finals. But did the presence of Turkey and South Korea in the semi-finals make the 2002 World Cup a tinpot competition? The fact is that Milan, who beat Liverpool, Manchester United and Celtic to get there, and Boca, who won the Copa Libertadores, are the defending champions of the two continents that, more than any other, have shaped the game.

And it’s sad that neither the dozens of moneyed broadcasters in this country nor Fifa, which should have done a better job of selling the rights, had the foresight to make sure this game was on television in the country that invented football.

Koeman job on the line

Ronald Koeman’s results since taking over from Quique Sánchez Flores as coach of Valencia read like something from a horror show: played nine (in all competitions), won two, drawn three, lost four. They have managed five goals, all of which came in their two victories.

It was no different on Saturday night as Barcelona ripped them apart at the Mestalla, winning 3-0.

It is a well-known fact that Valencia’s board has an itchy trigger finger. Unless things change – and quickly – Valencia could have their third coach of the season before the spring thaw is with us.

gabriele.marcotti@thetimes.co.uk


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[DanneS]

Nice to see the good work getting attention :o
It's can't be easy getting the attention being a "minor city" up in the north
fighting with the dragons of german football down south and with HSV.

But the results show what Bremen football is made of, you don't need Klose to be at the top of Bundesliga.

Vorwärts Freie Hansestadt Bremen!
Maybe you'll meet another dear old Hansa town in the UEFA Cup. Look at my sig. ;)

[MoFF]

Good to see Bremen doing so well.

[Sataris]

I think mambo is thomas schaaf in disguise! :eek:

[mambo]

Yay a duell against a swedish team would be exciting,
cant remember when we had that the last time 0o

The local newspaper Weser-Kurier (www.weser-kurier.de) revealed today that our chairman of the board and former manager Willy Lemke is the german candidate for the UN commissioner in sports.
But i guess he can pack in because Pele is also a candidate for that job :p

[Sataris]

Yay a duell against a swedish team would be exciting,
cant remember when we had that the last time 0o

The local newspaper Weser-Kurier (www.weser-kurier.de) revealed today that our chairman of the board and former manager Willy Lemke is the german candidate for the UN commissioner in sports.
But i guess he can pack in because Pele is also a candidate for that job :p

Ye have little faith!

Lemke > Pele

ps. You are schaaf right? ;)

[mambo]

Ye have little faith!

Lemke > Pele

ps. You are schaaf right? ;)

You will never know :cool:

[darthcoder]

I'll start following Bremen, because of mambo.
Want to see their attacking football.

PS: mambo, your sig is awesome as usual. Care to post a tutorial or something if you have the time and inclination?? Thanks :D.

[Sataris]

You will never know :cool:

meanie!

I'll found out one way or the other! :p

[mambo]

I'll start following Bremen, because of mambo.
Want to see their attacking football.

PS: mambo, your sig is awesome as usual. Care to post a tutorial or something if you have the time and inclination?? Thanks :D.


Good choice, hope you enjoy it http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1175/icecreamml0.gif
Sorry but i dont create things like that, its fanart from the official forum.

[Hajduk]

i hate that theres no bremen football for like a month
but this will help klasnic with getting back into way better shape

[mambo]

There is still no TV-deal for the first match in Glasgow for german Television.
Hope we dont have to watch a crappy internet stream :(
Looks like the ZDF tried to reschedule the kick-off
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football-news/scottish-football/spl-football/rangers-fc/2008/02/27/rangers-snub-tv-fortune-for-early-kick-off-86908-20332966/

[DanneS]

Is it Rangers vs Werder? :eek:

Will there be another draw in the first game? ;)

[Hajduk]

i cant wait for that game
i hope klasnic gets to play

[mambo]

There is a good chance for Ivan, since he is the only scoring striker atm ;)

But it looks bad for a TV deal.
ZDF = HIV - Leverkusen,
PRO7 = FCB - Anderlecht,
DSF = short on money and cant afford the rights

Chinese post-stamp sized internet-stream here i come http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2756/doofywavehb7.gif

[Steven Burns]

I think that the local fans a more important than the TV-Viewer. So i'am happy about this decision.

[jr!]

Have you guys heard the rumour that Werder might be playing the MLS all star game in Toronto this summer?
There's an article here on it: http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/307638

[mambo]

I dont know this source,
but all the different names they throw with in that report make me skeptical http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6293/blinkai4.gif
And i think usually its already league-cup time in Germany in late July.
Its very likely that Werder plays that cup so i cant imagine that they will travel to north america.

edit:
It sais the allstar game is on 24.7. and take a look here
http://www.fussballdaten.de/vereine/werderbremen/2008/spiele/
last year the "Ligapokal" started on 21.7.
Im pretty sure it will be around that time again.

[jr!]

Damn, wishful thinking I guess, woulda loved to have seen Diego.

[suiseiseki]

It sais the allstar game is on 24.7

wow, they must get really tired

[Hajduk]

http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/klasnictapferesherzpreis575.jpg
Klasnic receives ‘Courageous Heart 2007’ award

Following the win over Borussia Dortmund, Ivan Klasnic had further reason to celebrate in the ‘Mixed Zone’at the Weser Stadium. The Croatian newspaper ‘Vecernji list’ presented the Werder striker with the ‘Courageous Heart 2007’ award – a great honour for Ivan Klasnic: “That is a wonderful prize which I am very happy to receive. It’s nice to know that my fellow countrymen have followed my story and support me.”

In explaining the reason for the destination of the award it was stated: “Ivan Klasnic went through a real life drama to come back and achieve great things with Werder Bremen in December 2007. He is living proof that one can be successful in life if the iron will to do so is there.”

The ‘Courageous Heart’ award has been bestowed upon Croatian sports men and women since 2006, who have shown the courage needed in the face of adversity to recover from injury and illness before bouncing back to perform at the highest level.

Early in 2007, Ivan Klasnic had to go through the trauma of two kidney transplant operations. Months of rehabilitation were followed by weeks of regenerative training before the Croatian international was able to return to the Bundesliga in November 2007. Since his return he has played eight games in the Bundesliga, DFB Cup and UEFA Cup, scoring four goals for the Green-Whites.

[krelmatrix]

There is still no TV-deal for the first match in Glasgow for german Television.
Hope we dont have to watch a crappy internet stream :(


If you're willing to pay (and have a German bank account, I suspect), you can get it pay-per-view from www.werder.tv. I guess that's how I'll be watching it. I'm pretty peeved, however, that we get screwed on the television broadcast of this historic match. :(

[limonov]

omg I couldn't find any feed for werder-stutgart, what in the name of geez has happened there?! can anybody upload some highlights please?

[PortGlasgow]

Just watched the game, definitely recommend it

[mambo]

omg I couldn't find any feed for werder-stutgart, what in the name of geez has happened there?! can anybody upload some highlights please?

If you dont want to download the whole Sportschau from Sportsmen and if you dont like the T online Highlights (usually they are crap) then maybe you like to try the premiere extended highlights http://rapidshare.com/files/98010424/VFB_SVW_Premiere_Zusammenfassung.avi


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That was a real black week. The 40hours break did a good job again :|
Even the young Mertesacker who is the personification of fairness got a red card -sigh-

[sweed]

I *almost* feel sorry for you mambo :p :(

[AlexLFC]

If you dont want to download the whole Sportschau from Sportsmen and if you dont like the T online Highlights (usually they are crap) then maybe you like to try the premiere extended highlights http://rapidshare.com/files/98010424/VFB_SVW_Premiere_Zusammenfassung.avi


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That was a real black week. The 40hours break did a good job again :|
Even the young Mertesacker who is the personification of fairness got a red card -sigh-

SPOILERS AS WELL:::::::::

Well, I am sorry for you and Bremen, Mambo - they surely are suffering within those tight weeks with so many games! But what is hurting Bremen at the moment is the weak defence they have imo. I mean, offensively we know that Bremen is able to score six or more goals in one match, but defensively Bremen has problems to not concede in most matches. I mean, look at the outcome of today's match: Bremen scores like hell upfront - I am sure that a more rested team would have been able to equalise even the three goal margin. But what the hell is going on in the back??? How the hell can it be that nearly every goal that they concede looks exactly the same?

It is sad, but I guess that the Meisterschaft is gone for Bremen this season. Concentrate on a "Wunder von der Weser" against Rangers, count on my support. :)

[deviant]

awsome stuff by Stuttgart and another very poor performance by Werder they have really discombobulated, and I think its time for Diego to move one ;) :p

[Sataris]

How the hell do you lose to stuttgart? :confused:

their the personificaton of underpeformance this year

and I *DO* feel sorry for mambo :o

you can still join the bayern bandwagon mambo ;) :p

[mambo]

How the hell do you lose to stuttgart? :confused:

their the personificaton of underpeformance this year...

Sounds like you forgot about your defeat in Stuttgart (http://www.fussballdaten.de/bundesliga/2008/13/vfbstuttgart-bmuenchen/) against the VFB Gomez http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2874/calimerodz2.gif

...and no thanks :> Where i come from i might suffer serious social problems and a weekly black eye when i would join your Bayern crew^^
And i better dont start talking about Hoennes and Rummenigge, they are like Blofeld and Dr. No :p

[Sataris]

...and no thanks :> Where i come from i might suffer serious social problems and a weekly black eye when i would join your Bayern crew^^

awww

but your so much cooler than sweed :p

[sweed]

but your so much cooler than sweed :p

curse you kangaroo-man!! :mad: :p

[vRS]

:eek: Vfb Stuttgart 6 - Bremen 3

That keepers not having a good week.

[huth]

That keepers not having a good week.

It wasn't his fault at all, this time the defence was a joke. But the Rangers will still get their ass kicked on thursday!:D

[arturs gloves]

It wasn't his fault at all, this time the defence was a joke. But the Rangers will still get their ass kicked on thursday!:Ddont listen to those dafties BREMEN are going through . rangers are running on fresh air.:D

[vRS]

dont listen to those dafties BREMEN are going through . rangers are running on fresh air.:D

Well duh. 4 goals conceded in 14 games. Were through.

[mambo]

Eurosport statistics for the Stuttgart - Werder match:
Posession: Werder 62% - Stuttgart 38%
Shots: Werder 27 - Stuttgart 9
corner kicks: Werder 5 - Stuttgart 1
complete passes Werder 362 - Stuttgart 222
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2372/98818569rg3.gif



Congratulations Bayern, have a nice championship party :(:(:(

[Sataris]

Congratulations Bayern, have a nice championship party :(:(:(

we would

but sweed will be there :(


:p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

we would

but sweed will be there :(


:p

:D
I'll balance him out.

[Nicat86]

Eurosport statistics for the Stuttgart - Werder match:
Posession: Werder 62% - Stuttgart 38%
Shots: Werder 27 - Stuttgart 9
corner kicks: Werder 5 - Stuttgart 1
complete passes Werder 362 - Stuttgart 222
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2372/98818569rg3.gif



Congratulations Bayern, have a nice championship party :(:(:(

It's ok Mambo :( everything will be alright, Don't be upset, it's life. loool

Suddenly you will see Bremen will win! and.... Bayern.... also will win!:D
So it might be hard for Bremen to catch up. To bad that Diego didn't play. If he played, the scoresheet would've been the opposite!.


We know that Bayern are through in UEFA, what about Bremen? I don't want to spoil the scoresheet in first leg, but we know the score, do you think Bremen can win against Rangers? Will Diego play?

For me, I see Bremen pass Rangers by a good score, probably 3:0.
I felt sad when I saw Mambo not looking good. I mean this would be another disaster for Bremen fans, a heart attack, if they got eliminated from UEFA Cup. ..
j/j

[mambo]

Willy 1 - Pele 0 :D

Willy is the new UN commissioner in sports. Ban Ki Moon elected him today.
Another candidate was Pele.
http://www.ad-hoc-news.de/drucken.html?art_id=15968791
We now lose our chairman, but his goodbye job was to give Allofs a new contract, thats not too bad^^
Goodbye Willy,send our greetings to New York http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7210/folfn8.gif

[mambo]

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2008/sga1128.doc.htm
Secretary-General appoints wilfried lemke of germany as special adviser on sport for development and peace

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has appointed Wilfried Lemke of Germany as his Special Adviser on Sport for Development and Peace, serving on a $1 per year salary with the rank of Under-Secretary-General.

Mr. Lemke replaces Adolf Ogi, former President of Switzerland, who concluded his mandate at the end of December 2007. The Secretary-General greatly appreciates Mr. Ogi’s work as the first Special Adviser in this area. He leaves an important legacy for Mr. Lemke to build upon, in reaching out to the world of sport and encouraging the use of sport to promote development and peace.

The Special Adviser leads and coordinates the efforts of the United Nations system to promote understanding and support for sport as an instrument for development and peace, and encourages dialogue, collaboration and partnerships in this area. The United Nations Office on Sport for Development and Peace is based at the United Nations Office at Geneva and a liaison office is to be located within the Department of Economic and Social Affairs at New York Headquarters.

The United Nations recognizes that sport can make an important contribution to public health, universal education, gender equality, poverty reduction, prevention of HIV and AIDS and other diseases, environmental sustainability, peacebuilding and conflict resolution. Since the International Year of Sport and Physical Education, 2005, Member States have increasingly recognized in their national legislation and policies the role of sport in dealing with the aforementioned challenges.

Mr. Lemke has over 25 years of professional experience in both sport and politics. From 1999-2008, he served as Senator of Interior and Sport of the German State of Bremen, as well as Senator for Education and Science. Mr. Lemke was manager for 18 years of Werder Bremen, one of the top football clubs in Europe. In this capacity, he notably engaged in fundraising and the initiation of relief projects in Eastern Europe and the Commonwealth of Independent States. Throughout his career he has been a dedicated advocate for the importance of sport in education and society.

Mr. Lemke holds a degree in sport and educational sciences from Hamburg University. He was born on 19 August 1946 and is married, with four children.

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Mr. Lemke was manager for 18 years of Werder Bremen, one of the top football clubs in Europe.

The UN calls us on of the top clubs in europe lol! :D

[Sataris]

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has appointed Wilfried Lemke of Germany as his Special Adviser on Sport for Development and Peace, serving on a $1 per year salary with the rank of Under-Secretary-General.


The UN calls us on of the top clubs in europe lol! :D

their also paying your manager $1 a year :p

[mambo]

l0l! i hope at least they pay his rent :D

[PortGlasgow]

Sauce (http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2137746.0.Klasnic_top_of_Rangers_shopp ing_list_of_forwards.php)

RANGERS have begun the process of summer strengthening by assessing three strikers: Ivan Klasnic of Werder Bremen, David Nugent of Portsmouth and Frederic Piquionne of AS Monaco.

Reports from Germany suggest a tentative inquiry has already been made for Klasnic, the Croatia internationalist who faced Rangers in the UEFA Cup. He is available on a Bosman transfer in the summer and is attracting interest from clubs across Europe.

Not too sure on this signing, seems to have hot and long cold spells coupled with a patchy health history. On the other hand we have a player at peak age with alot of experience at top level football for nothing. Would be interesting to find out how much he's currently earning.

Apparently Dado Prso rates him

[mambo]

Good choice. Hes not the fastest running- and not the highest jumping striker, but one with a brilliant intelligence on the green and also not that bad next to the green. He has no manager/ment and works out his own contracts.
Other Bundesliga clubs like Hannover96 are also interested.
I hope of course that he stays :)

[DanneS]

This is the Werder Wall. The hopes of other teams ends here.

http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08156/werder_mauer241.jpg

Der Mambo aus Bremen ist heute sehr froh. Prost! :cool:

Don't drink more than 5 beers...
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[germanyfcbarsenal]

This is the Werder Wall. The hopes of other teams ends here.

http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08156/werder_mauer241.jpg

Der Mambo aus Bremen ist heute sehr froh. Prost! :cool:

Don't drink more than 5 beers...
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Fünf, sechs....was auch immer. :D

[mambo]

Oh no a bavarian collaborator tries to steal training informations :p

http://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta29.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta15.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta09.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta33.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta19.jpg


Its Lothar Matthäus :eek:
I hope he doesnt put on his shorts and wants to play midfielder next matchday :>

[Sataris]

important championship deciding games coming up Mr.Schaaf err mambo ;)

you lose and we win, Season over :)

are you ready for the flaming? :p

hehe

[mambo]

The championship was out of sight for a long time :[
i remember that i already send you congratulations back in march :o
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1074561&postcount=446

[Sataris]

The championship was out of sight for a long time :[
i remember that i already send you congratulations back in march :o
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1074561&postcount=446

I won't accept your congratulations until we've actually won the title =)

[sweed]

why was Matthaus there?

[mambo]

Hes a bavarian submarine lurking for secret informations :p

More from today:
http://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080417_ta29.jpg
http://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080417_k31.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080417_k02.jpghttp://www.nordphoto.de/topixx/data/pre-NOR_080416_ta46.jpg

Hes doing internship for his coaching license :>

[sweed]

interesting he chose Werder for his internship. possible successor to Schaaf??

[mambo]

Hehe i do not reckon that we need a successor within a foreseeable future,
Schaaf is in the club for 30 years now :p
And if we really need someone one day then i think he will probably come from the U23 team (Wolter, Votava, Skripnik or whoever does it in the future). Thats the place where also Schaaf came from when he took over the ruins of Felix Magath.

[Sataris]

Hehe i do not reckon that we need a successor within a foreseeable future,
Schaaf is in the club for 30 years now :p
And if we really need someone one day then i think he will probably come from the U23 team (Wolter, Votava, Skripnik or whoever does it in the future). Thats the place where also Schaaf came from when he took over the ruins of Felix Magath.

mambo for Werder Trainer!!

[mambo]

Werder offered Klasnic a contract extension a few weeks ago, but since tonight it looks like Ivan is gone.
I wouldnt be suprised if they suspend him tomorrow.

He just was in a TV show with his misses and they were totally b u t t k i c k i n g the Werder family. Im really really disappointed. He sued Werders medical department (which is a correct thing to find the truth i guess) but since a few days he is running a totally incorrect and reputation damaging media campaign against the club.
I honestly hope everything ends good but thats hard to imagine right now :[


edit:

Not too sure on this signing, seems to have hot and long cold spells coupled with a patchy health history. On the other hand we have a player at peak age with alot of experience at top level football for nothing. Would be interesting to find out how much he's currently earning.


1 800 000 Euro per anno, +/- 20-30% bonus
That makes him the highest paid striker in the team.

[sweed]

why'd he sue the werder medical staff?

[mambo]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/28042008/58/bundesliga-klasnic-sue-bremen.html

Hes going into newspapers and TV Shows with statements like that. The Doctor of course doesnt say anything publicly about it because its confidential medical stuff :o

Good thing it goes to court, bad thing Klasnic is running a public campaign :/

[Phenom]

found a replacement for Diego yet mate?:D:D:p:p

[mambo]

found a replacement for Diego yet mate?:D:D:p:p

Not that we need one http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6458/tongue2vw2.gif
but we have Özil, Hunt or Jensen who can also play that position and of course that trouble Kid Carlos Alberto still has a contract. So if Diego gets subbed, is injured or got a red card that position is well covered :p

[Phenom]

Not that we need one http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6458/tongue2vw2.gif
but we have Özil, Hunt or Jensen who can also play that position and of course that trouble Kid Carlos Alberto still has a contract. So if Diego gets subbed, is injured or got a red card that position is well covered :p

pmsl :D:p;)

[mambo]

Yesterday Diego organized a little charity tournament in Essen for his goal amigo foundation. Dede, Rafinha and others joined him in a Diego & friends team vs. the german beachsoccer national team (never heard of that one before :p ).
Robinho missed his airplane :[
The event was broadcasted on Eurosport2, but i dont have that channel :(

Schaaf coached Diegos team
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/upload/essentrainerbank400.jpg

Diego scored a nice one
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/upload/essendiegotor400.jpg

Schaaf trying to get a new wingback for Werder *g*
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/upload/essenschaafdede400.jpg

more here ----> http://www.werder.de/aktuelles/bildergalerie/player/index.php?id=172

[DanneS]

Thank God, Diego stays... I thought for a moment he went loco:p

[DARK ANDY]

LOL Schaaf talking sneakily to Dede

PS: Any news on where Klasnic is going?

[uih_so]

Oh, I love those pics of Schaaf outside the pitch x}
Seems like my father xD♣

[pkwrigley]

Podolski to Werder?

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/em/startseite/artikel/210679

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[WerderBremenYank]

Podolski to Werder?

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/em/startseite/artikel/210679

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

It would certainly be quite a move.

I am just not sure though if Bayern would sell to Werder

[germanyfcbarsenal]

It would certainly be quite a move.

I am just not sure though if Bayern would sell to Werder

No he's staying for at least one more season, no doubt.

[pkwrigley]

Good point about Bayern probably not wanting to sell to us, their main competition.

Still, I'm sure Podolski would like to go to a contender that would play him more. He would most certainly get a lot more playing time at SVW. If he wants to move, he could force it. Remember, Klose owed us more time and he and Bayern still made that transfer happen.

I'm not sure I think there's much chance of this happening. I think it's an intriguing idea though.

[krelmatrix]

PS: Any news on where Klasnic is going?

Nantes in the French Ligue 1

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_3795045,00.html

Will miss seeing him on the field. :(

[pkwrigley]

Best wishes to Killer Klasnic in the future.

[gunner4life]

What do you guys know about Amaury Bischoff?

[mambo]

What do you want to know exactly ? :o
He was part of our reserves, the U23. French father, portuguese mother. Midfielder, played for France U18 and Portugal U20. Promising talent, but still a youth player.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

What do you guys know about Amaury Bischoff?

Wenger admitted that he was taking a risk signing him because of past injury problems...I'll see if I can find a link.

Edit: here it is

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has admitted he has 'taken a gamble' on new signing Amaury Bischoff due to the young midfielder's fitness issues.

The Gunners announced the signing of the Portugal Under-21 international from Werder Bremen on Thursday afternoon.

And Wenger admits that after two groin operations, it will be at least two months before the 21-year-old is ready for action.

'Amaury is a young, promising player who we have taken a gamble on because he has been out for a long time,' Wenger told arsenal.com.

'We have to get him to a very good [fitness] level.

'He has talent but we'll have to wait two or three months to get him competitive. He has had two surgeries on his groin so it is a gamble on his talent.'

+ (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=558780&sec=england&campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901)

[mambo]

Pizarro is back in Bremen.
Now we just need to get Ailton back and then we have Pizza Toni making deliveries again :p

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6033/pizza02fd0.jpg

[macro]

ahh Allofs ordered a "quattro stagioni on the bench" with extra bacon (Ailton)
smart. :p j/k

[sweed]

ahh Allofs ordered a "quattro stagioni on the bench" with extra bacon (Ailton)
smart. :p j/k

there you are at it again! enough w/the meat! :p

hope Pizza does well.

[WerderBremenYank]

hope Pizza does well? If Klinsi keeps playing teenagers up top like he did today vs Hamburg, Bremen should win the league this year.

This could turn out to be a season changing move by KA. Personally I thought we had a perfectly capable striker group to begin with, but with Pizza back, we could very well score even more goals that we did last year

[sweed]

hope Pizza does well? If Klinsi keeps playing teenagers up top like he did today vs Hamburg, Bremen should win the league this year.

This could turn out to be a season changing move by KA. Personally I thought we had a perfectly capable striker group to begin with, but with Pizza back, we could very well score even more goals that we did last year

we didnt have Toni, that's all i'm saying...

[WerderBremenYank]

we didnt have Toni, that's all i'm saying...

I understand, I'd be willing to bet, however, that Toni has a pretty poor season. He's no spring chicken any more (for those that don't get the idiom, it means that Toni is no longer young and quick) I suspect that Toni will only go down hill from here.


I am of course, referring to Luca Toni, not Toni Ailton, who would score 20 goals a season into his mid 40s ;) if only due to the surprise factor :)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

spoiler

[sweed]

I understand, I'd be willing to bet, however, that Toni has a pretty poor season. He's no spring chicken any more (for those that don't get the idiom, it means that Toni is no longer young and quick) I suspect that Toni will only go down hill from here.


this is quite possible, however I think the way he plays and the way we play are a good match for him to bag (hopefully) 30+ goals.

anyways, did Pizarro start vs. Bielefeld?

[mambo]

nope, he arrived just 2 or 3 hours ago.

[pkwrigley]

I'm getting really sick of watching Prödl! Frankly, I don't see why Schaaf doesn't leave him out of the side and replace him with Pasanen until Merte comes back.

[WerderBremenYank]

I'm getting really sick of watching Prödl! Frankly, I don't see why Schaaf doesn't leave him out of the side and replace him with Pasanen until Merte comes back.

He is just over his head.

He will be great, but he is not ready at the moment.

[pkwrigley]

He is just over his head.

He will be great, but he is not ready at the moment.

Okay, okay.

I was pretty angry at the time, but my head is a little cooler now. I made that post during halftime of the last match. :p

I do blame him for quite a few of the goals we've conceded thus far though.

[WerderBremenYank]

Okay, okay.

I was pretty angry at the time, but my head is a little cooler now. I made that post during halftime of the last match. :p

I do blame him for quite a few of the goals we've conceded thus far though.

and he is rightfully to blame.

Remember, he was playing at Sturm Graz before he came to us, the three games against Euro 2008 opposition isnt going to fully prepare him for week in week out bundesliga play

[DanneS]

Possible Spoilers

It looks like Werder only need to score a few goals tonight in their mediterranean island away game
and then in their last home game beat or draw Inter to qualify. Should be easy cake....

[germanyfcbarsenal]

spoiler

Bloody hell. I don't remember this. :o