Russian premier league *SPOILERS*

[VOIN]

Why we haven't topic about Russian football? There are many good teams in Russia. For example:Lokomotiv Moscow,CSKA Moscow and others.
Please write your posts in this topic.

[lungkowchow]

support
I am Russia Super Fans
I will post it late...:cool:

[Burglar]

I'm supporting Spartak Moscow

[allRoni]

Lokomotiv Moscow

[[7]Raven]

I am for Dynamo Moscow.

[Razvedchik]

I'm Proud to be true Red-Blue :)

[borkes]

FC Ural Yekaterinburg
Вперед УРАЛМАШ! :)

[nogomyach]

FC Ural Yekaterinburg
Вперед УРАЛМАШ! :)
Топик про Премьер-лигу :)

[Adelaide_Forest]

Lokomotiv Moscow!!

(And Metallurg-Kuzbass Novokuznetsk in Div1)

[Baggie]

FC Saturn FTW!

Alexei Eremenko is a god.

[nogomyach]

RPL season 07 will be finished tomorrow. Zenit have a 3 points handicap against Spartak. But they'll play an away match against Saturn, Spartak'll play home. Spartak Moscow can win the 10th championship (without USSR Champs) and for Zenit it'll be the first win.

[FC Spartak Moscow]

За Народную команду !!!

[kozachok]

FC ZENIT SAINT PETERSBURG!

FC Spartak Moscow is my second favorite.

it's weird. this is the first year i'm into russian soccer and at the beginning Zenit was my favorite and Spartak second. and look! haha. 1st and second!! wow!!

YES!!! ZENIT are champions!!!

[fidelkastro]

куда лезут со своей РПЛ...шучу, Вперед Питер!

Zenit is the Best!

[kozachok]

yeah, and next year, they will be in the champions league group stage.. yeya!

[Aquarius86]

How does think, Ural will go out in a cup final?

[seva]

Anyone knows of other places to download Russian Premiere League games?

Thanks!

[McViktor]

hopefully it won't be considered some sort of advertisement but almost all the matches are on russia's biggest torrent tracker (stnerrot.ru - read backwards the first word ;))
make an account there, and download as much as you can ;)

[drac78]

yea that's the best place, altho sometimes they don't let you log on for some reason, and you have to keep a ratio of at least 0.3

[McViktor]

who are you predicting this season to win and why?
also, which team impressed you with their play?
which match would you describe as the best yet?
come on people, we have to make this thread the hottest thread ever ;)

[drac78]

who are you predicting this season to win and why?
also, which team impressed you with their play?
which match would you describe as the best yet?
come on people, we have to make this thread the hottest thread ever ;)

hehe didn't know there was a Russian league thread here before:p

CSKA Moskva will probably win this season.....no wait we suck at the moment :mad: I can't believe we lost agst Terek and Nalchik ...:mad:
Gazzaev is really a moron, he NEVER EVER changes his team!!! where are Caner, Janczyk, Kalouda?!

Spartak really impressed me agst Rubin, they have a pretty good team imo...they'll probably be champions

as for the best match...it could've been CSKA -Zenit but you chickened out:D;)

I think the best question is how many more games will Zenit postpone :D:D

[McViktor]

come on, we postponed only four games :p
i don't think cska will win it this season, gazzaev , as you said, is too dick-headed to rotate, i'd love to see kalouda and janczyk more in action
as for , caner , i think he's a bust, was bought as a supertalent but seems to be quite average , like mamaev :D

as for spartak, a huge disagreement, thri game vs kazan was very good but it was only because they played on counter-attacks
when they have to make some pressure against a small/weaker team , they just start to make stupid mistakes that cost them the match
their defence is terrible, mark my words, they aren't going to win anything ;)

but to please you jr, i'm pretty sure CSKA will win the cup ;)

[drac78]

well who knows, Amkar seem to be doing pretty well (they're 2nd now iirc), and if we cant beat Tom, Terek, or Nalchik I'm starting to worry about the final :(

I agree Spartak don't have a great defense (altho Filipenko was not bad agst Rubin, and he turns out very good in FM :p), they have too many good players upfront with Welliton, Pavlenko, Bystrov (when healthy) etc

Zenit will have to focus on the league again after their uefa cup victory (hopefully:p), as they didn't seem very focused on the league at the beginning of the season... the top 2 will be spartak and zenit imo.

I can't see Rubin keeping their 1st place, their substitute gk looked very poor agst Spartak, in fact the whole team looked poor too, Im starting to think maybe they did well mostly thanks to Ryzhykov... (I havent watched Rubin except agst spartak)

[McViktor]

you're right to a certain extent, rubin had his tremendous results because of rizhikov's tremendous performances (caught two penalties in one match) and because of their luck, i've never seen a team that was so lucky as rubin this spring...

filipenko isn't as good ,he ran straight into stranzl in the shinnik game this wednesday which caused a shinnik goal right on the 11th minute :rolleyes:

zenit will win it, don't you worry, after the uefa cup they'll be strong as never, morally boosted because of the 5-0 win against rangers :D ;)

amkar continue to be the most uncomfortable team for the top 4-5, they and their plastic pitch are a nightmare :D
they'll slip up the table though, they always do ;)

but the most worrying team is CSKA, i mean they have to sell the brazilians as soon as possible, or give janczyk more time because something's not working absolutely..
dudu sitting on the bench, rahimic playing instead of him, semberas used as midfielder (terribile, he's a good defender but a midfielder? )

..or changing the manager would be even better, gazzayev has nothing more to give to these players..

and zenit should buy zhirkov, what a player he is :cool:

[WerderBremenYank]

I support Baltika Kaliningrad ;) of the 1. Division

UP THE BLUE AND WHITES

[McViktor]

I support Baltika Kaliningrad ;) of the 1. Division

UP THE BLUE AND WHITES
jolly good, i have a soft spot for them too, probably because of their isolation :)
you have visited kaliningrad or why do love the club? :)

[drac78]

lol I had made a game in football manager with baltika when I played in Russia, I managed to get them promoted in the first season :D They had a great ukrainian striker Ryzhykh(?) who scored about 40 goals :D
I gave up because of the foreigners rule in Russia though



but the most worrying team is CSKA, i mean they have to sell the brazilians as soon as possible, or give janczyk more time because something's not working absolutely..
dudu sitting on the bench, rahimic playing instead of him, semberas used as midfielder (terribile, he's a good defender but a midfielder? )

..or changing the manager would be even better, gazzayev has nothing more to give to these players..

and zenit should buy zhirkov, what a player he is :cool:

I think the biggest problem with CSKA is the 3-5-2. I used to like that tactic when it worked but with most of the players lacking confidence at the moment, it gives way too much space for the opposite team :(
Add to that, Ignashevich and v. Berezutskiy who are completely out of form ....:(

I'm not too critical about Semberas, he makes very good passes, altho I think he's better as a centre back. He was rock solid agst Chelsea as a CB a couple of yrs ago:)

Odiah is a source of problem too, I like him but he's just not doing any work defensively :mad: Aldonin is also a liability, he made a foul which led to a penalty (i dont remember who it was against) but Akinfeev saved it. He gives away many free kicks too:mad:

Zhirkov seems to be the only one who's playing well at the moment. oh and lol @ Zhirkov joining Zenit :D:Dyou can only dream of that happening:p

[fidelkastro]

Anyone knows of other places to download Russian Premiere League games?

Thanks!
torrents.ru

[McViktor]

me squad :
-------------------akinfey---------------------
berezutskiy----ignashevich-berezutskiy--semberas
odiah-----------dudu-------carvalho :p ----zhirkov
-------------jo--------------vagner LOVE------

yes, 4-4-2 ;) looks quite strong for me, dudu will make the dirty work and carvalho will make his wonderpasses
the central defense is quite unreliable though :)
odiah should play as a winger, he's very good with the ball and makes great crosses, so why not ;)
aldonin is overappreciated, he was always so, making unnecessary fouls and stupid penalties...

zhirkov to zenit, would be a perfect combination, our genius manager mr. advocaat (advocaat >>> gazzaev ;) ) will make him even better ;)
or we could buy bilyaletdinov, another great player :cool:

drac, how's your russian? do you understand what are the commentators saying? :)

[WerderBremenYank]

jolly good, i have a soft spot for them too, probably because of their isolation :)
you have visited kaliningrad or why do love the club? :)

A close friend of mine whom I go to university with is from Kaliningrad. I checked them out on Football manager and they look like quite the small club, so you have to cheer for the little guy :)

[drac78]

me squad :
-------------------akinfey---------------------
berezutskiy----ignashevich-berezutskiy--semberas
odiah-----------dudu-------carvalho :p ----zhirkov
-------------jo--------------vagner LOVE------

yes, 4-4-2 ;) looks quite strong for me, dudu will make the dirty work and carvalho will make his wonderpasses
the central defense is quite unreliable though :)
odiah should play as a winger, he's very good with the ball and makes great crosses, so why not ;)
aldonin is overappreciated, he was always so, making unnecessary fouls and stupid penalties...

zhirkov to zenit, would be a perfect combination, our genius manager mr. advocaat (advocaat >>> gazzaev ;) ) will make him even better ;)
or we could buy bilyaletdinov, another great player :cool:

drac, how's your russian? do you understand what are the commentators saying? :)

Semberas left back? also, I can't belive you forgot Krasic:eek::p

I'd like to see:
akinfeev
odiah - semberas - ignashevich - a. berezutskiy
krasic -dudu - carvalho/ kalouda/caner- zhirkov
vagner love - jo

this looks quite solid on paper, the defense doesnt look too bad either :)

I think the most impressive thing with Zenit is that they're doing pretty well with very few foreigners. Altho I saw an article on some website (ESPN iirc) that said - no offense to you of course:)- that many zenit fans are racist and that's why Advocaat could not sign any african or brazilian players...not sure how true this is...

My russian is quite bad :D though I know most of the football related words like free kick, corner, defender, gk etc and "na vash ekranek" (spelling?:D) which I guess means "on your screen", the commentators seem to say that quite often during the games.

Strangely enough, I still understand/guess a good part of what the commentators try to say, there are many russian words that sound like french ones like "rikoshet" for example (probably wrong spelling again:D) :)
there's another word they seem to often say, it's "baleychika" or "balenchika", they usually say that before the name of a team like "baleychika spartak". I have no idea what it means though:D

[PortGlasgow]

Milos Krasic brilliant young player from what ive seen of him, I wonder how long he'll be playing in the Russian League.

Hey drac :D

http://sem-archive.by.ru/Ru_Ultras/Stencils/2.jpg

[drac78]

Milos Krasic brilliant young player from what ive seen of him, I wonder how long he'll be playing in the Russian League.

Hey drac :D

http://sem-archive.by.ru/Ru_Ultras/Stencils/2.jpg

Yea Krasic is great, he has tremendous pace and dribbling ability. I don't mind him staying in Russia as long as he stays in CSKA Moscow :D

lol nice, what does it say on the pic?

[PortGlasgow]

"Lost Dog" :D dont know who wrote it Spartak maybe?

[drac78]

"Lost Dog" :D dont know who wrote it Spartak maybe?

LOOL, yea probably or someone jealous of his success :p

[McViktor]

lol, absolutely brilliant pic, gazzayev´s nickname is Dog (pyos, written PES) so that´s the meaning of it :D

Semberas left back? also, I can't belive you forgot Krasic:eek::p

I'd like to see:
akinfeev
odiah - semberas - ignashevich - a. berezutskiy
krasic -dudu - carvalho/ kalouda/caner- zhirkov
vagner love - jo

this looks quite solid on paper, the defense doesnt look too bad either :)

I think the most impressive thing with Zenit is that they're doing pretty well with very few foreigners. Altho I saw an article on some website (ESPN iirc) that said - no offense to you of course:)- that many zenit fans are racist and that's why Advocaat could not sign any african or brazilian players...not sure how true this is...

My russian is quite bad :D though I know most of the football related words like free kick, corner, defender, gk etc and "na vash ekranek" (spelling?:D) which I guess means "on your screen", the commentators seem to say that quite often during the games.

Strangely enough, I still understand/guess a good part of what the commentators try to say, there are many russian words that sound like french ones like "rikoshet" for example (probably wrong spelling again:D) :)
there's another word they seem to often say, it's "baleychika" or "balenchika", they usually say that before the name of a team like "baleychika spartak". I have no idea what it means though:D
lol, yes, "na vashem ekrane" is on your screen, well done :)
got the spelling right on rikoshet :D
and yes, a very frequent word is "bolelshik" or "bolelshitsa" (male and female fan) :)

and you´re right about zenit, and i think it´s mainly because of dick advocaat´s genius, that we succeeded in buying russian players and finding them a place in the team
and the find of zyryanov was probably one of the best moves in the history of the world football, he turned out to be the best russian midfielder of the decade probably...

and yes, we have (had) a serious problem with racism
and it´s all down to the mentality of the local people
the blocade of leningrad, the fact that it´s a northern city, this all contributed that the people there are quite extrovertial and are quite against changes and stuff...
but the racist people are a minority really, but we have to do something against it , like signing an ebony world-class player that will show them that they were wrong

there´s only one "famous" case, it was in 2003 me thinks when we wanted to sign baffour gyan, the lad that is now playing for saturn
now, some hardcore fans showed that they´re against this transfer because of the colour of the skin of his
sad really...

but it´s changed by now, we wanted to sign de guzman from feyenoord and nobody was against it, so there´s definitely some light at the end of the tunnel :)

your squad looks good ;)

[drac78]

Cup final spoilers :

















We have won the cup :cool::cool: so that we'll have at least one trophy this season (probably the only one though:()

Zhirkov is brilliant!! :cool:As much as I love to see him play for CSKA, he deserves a better team. He's good enough to play for one of the top 4 in Ebgland imo. He should join Arsenal for the sake of his career, although the fact that he doesn't speak french is an obstacle :rolleyes::D

I think our defense was very good once again....at watching the opponent play :mad::D

[McViktor]

We have won the cup :cool::cool: so that we'll have at least one trophy this season (probably the only one though:()

Zhirkov is brilliant!! :cool:As much as I love to see him play for CSKA, he deserves a better team. He's good enough to play for one of the top 4 in Ebgland imo. He should join Arsenal for the sake of his career, although the fact that he doesn't speak french is an obstacle :rolleyes::D

I think our defense was very good once again....at watching the opponent play :mad::D
congrats on winning the cup, you deserved it probably, though i supported amkar because they are a small cup and definitely deserved to goto the ufeac up more than fk moskva :o

zhirkov to zenit,really, his so great that the russian journalists are too small-minded to see it, he will be one of the key players at the euro for russia
he and bilya and arshavin are the three pillars russia can build on for the next 10 years...

the two bereza's = dreadful, absolutely terrible :mad:

[McViktor]

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just thought i'll update you a bit about what's happening in russia, especially about the transfer talk, emphasis on my beloved zenit, of course :)
so:

- mateja kezman is very close to move to zenit, a swap is the most possible solution, a kezhman-tekke one with fenerbahce, maybe zenit will add some money plus to it :)
- sergey ignashevich is still having some problems with CSKA, the journalists come up with loads of rumours every day, he can end up in any big russian club, really, maybe except lokomotiv because he left them very cowardly, and they still hate him there...
- santiago solari was rumoured to go to zenit after his contract ends at inter this summer but the player said he'll prefer the 'warmer' leagues, he said, he's not ready to play in russia, a big BOOOO for him, please :D
- gokhan zan from turkey is rumoured to be a very hot candidate to move to russia, both zenit and spartak moscow are eyeing him, hopefully he won't end up as 'sultan' fatih, who was getting injured all the time here...
- dick advocaat was named honoral member of the city of saint petersburg, absolutely deserved if you ask me, he brought so many positive emotions for us, fans :)

[joaq17]

how is caner doing? is he seeing some playing time?

[drac78]

how is caner doing? is he seeing some playing time?

Not really, he just warms the bench most of the time and very rarely comes on as a substitute.

He was tested as a left back during the pre-season games and didn't do too well, he hasn't impressed me so far except for one game in the CL (against Fenerbahçe iirc)

[McViktor]

A BOMB !!!
zenit and cska started transfer talks about yuri zhirkov...
zenit is offering 10 millions, cska wants 15 !
;)

[McViktor]

life goes on and the season 2008 continues :)

Saturday, July 5, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
9:00 UK Luch-Energiya Vladivostok v FC Khimki Dinamo Stadium
14:00 UK PFK Samara Kryliya Sovetov v FK Rubin Kazan Metallurg Stadium
16:30 UK Spartak Nalchik v YFK Shinnik Yaroslav Spartak Stadium
Sunday, July 6, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK Terek Grozny v Spartak Moscow Tsentralnyi Stadium, Pyatigorsk
13:00 UK CSKA Moscow v Dinamo Moscow Luzhniki Stadium
15:00 UK Zenit St Petersburg v FK Tom' Tomsk Petrovski Stadium
16:00 UK Lokomotiv Moscow v FK Amkar Perm' Lokomotiv Stadium
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
16:00 UK Zenit St Petersburg v Spartak Nalchik Petrovski Stadium
16:00 UK Saturn Moscow v FC Moscow Saturn Stadium
Saturday, July 12, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK FK Amkar Perm' v Luch-Energiya Vladivostok Zvezda Stadium
11:00 UK YFK Shinnik Yaroslav v PFK Samara Kryliya Sovetov Shinnik Stadium
11:00 UK Spartak Moscow v CSKA Moscow Luzhniki Stadium
Sunday, July 13, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK FC Khimki v Zenit St Petersburg Rodina Stadium
11:00 UK Dinamo Moscow v Lokomotiv Moscow Dinamo Stadium
11:00 UK FC Moscow v Terek Grozny Eduard Streltsov Stadium
11:00 UK FK Tom' Tomsk v Spartak Nalchik Trud Stadium
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK Luch-Energiya Vladivostok v Zenit St Petersburg Dinamo Stadium
11:00 UK FK Amkar Perm' v CSKA Moscow Zvezda Stadium
11:00 UK FK Rubin Kazan v Saturn Moscow Tsentralnyi Stadium
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK Zenit St Petersburg v Lokomotiv Moscow Petrovski Stadium

Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Time Home Away VENUE
11:00 UK CSKA Moscow v Zenit St Petersburg Luzhniki Stadium


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Ehm, since I am a Zenit supporter, I don't really care about the others' signings, but here we go:
- Zenit's been rumoured with Miguel Danny from FC Dinamo Moscow, but there's a clausule in his contract that sets his selling price on 30 million dollars, which is a tremendous lot in the Russian Premier League....
- We've been also rumoured with Adam Kokoszka from Poland, from Legia Warszawa I think, but it was more a fiction of the local newspapers there...
- Krilya Sovetov Samara signed Jan Koller , though he's 35-years old, but I have a good feeling that he'll do well in the Russian league, his attitude is positive and his interviews are showing that he came here to play some football...
- Jo from CSKA Moscow was sold to Manchester City for 17 million pounds, good luck to him, hopefully his example will show the others that it's worth coming to the RPL....
And yes, CSKA got weaker with this, so it makes their future quite intriguing ,too....

[drac78]

And yes, CSKA got weaker with this, so it makes their future quite intriguing ,too....

that's right :( I saw we even got shitty results in friendlies:( hopefully Gazzaev follows Hiddink's example and play with 4 at the back, you could clearly see the difference it made to the Russian NT...

[McViktor]

that's right :( I saw we even got shitty results in friendlies:( hopefully Gazzaev follows Hiddink's example and play with 4 at the back, you could clearly see the difference it made to the Russian NT...
the best defence is attack, you know that ;)
though the collaboration of janczyk and vagner love didn't really seem to be working..
As for me, the worst thing is, that the CSKA board doesn't even want to buy anybody in Jo's place.. doesn't have to be a superstar, a player for 5-6 million would be absolutely ok..but they simply don't

I think CSKA have to change their coach, replace 4-5 first squad players with better ones and it should be ok.
It's a downward slope they'll be going down if they don't do nothing against it, i mean Giner, he's the boss.

---------
Pavlyuchenko to be scouted by Tottenham, the Spurs scouts even asked for tickets for the upcoming match vs CSKA, me thinks, so it seems to be serious.

[drac78]

yea I agree, we're clearly lacking ambition :(

btw, who's that guy they keep showing during Zenit matches?

http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080706/yKNa0elhkT.jpg

[McViktor]

The guy is Mikhail Boyarskiy, actor and singer and whatever, personally I can't stand him... he labelles himself as Zenit's biggest fan . :rolleyes:
Anyway, this round of the RPL was very good for us, Spartak lost to Terek after a dreadful performance 3-1 , Loko lost at home , which was a big surprise for me, 0-1 . CSKA losing was another surprise, hopefully you can thrash Spartak this weekend, everybody would be really grateful to ya for doing that.
Dinamo seems to be in really good form now but I think it'll be the same as last season, in the end, the key players will be extremely tired and unable to win matches simply because of their qualities.
Rubin will decrease rapidly in the table in my opinion, I just can't see anything special because of what they would have to win the league, in their performances.

It's pretty easy actually, the name of the team that will win the league ;)
Five letters, the first one is Z... :D

[lukedella]

Where can i keep up to date on the russian league? i wouldnt mind keeping an eye on it, I also wouldnt mind a zenit away shirt ;)

[McViktor]

Well, basically, if I had somebody to talk with (the whole thread is a me-drac78 conversation), I could keep you updated :p
So, if your curious, feel free to ask here and I will try to reply :)
I wouldn't mind a Zenit shirt as well, the thing is that I simply can't buy it, I have to find some friend in Saint Petersburg to buy it for me, but it has to be a really reliable person..:o

[Mitch23]

few upsets on the weekend...

[drac78]

Ricardo Jesus is awful, he may be good for spartak nalchik but definitely not for cska :mad: Krasic and Ramon were invisible too:mad:

the good news is...Aldonin will miss the game against spartak :D

btw, 2 questions: did they say anything about Semberas being injured or why was he subbed off so early? :confused:
also, what does "polazheniev ne igre" (?:p) mean? the commnetator said that several times...

[McViktor]

Ricardo Jesus is awful, he may be good for spartak nalchik but definitely not for cska :mad: Krasic and Ramon were invisible too:mad:

the good news is...Aldonin will miss the game against spartak :D

btw, 2 questions: did they say anything about Semberas being injured or why was he subbed off so early? :confused:
also, what does "polazheniev ne igre" (?:p) mean? the commnetator said that several times...

I thought Ricardo Jesus was a lot better than Vagner Love, yes, maybe he´s not as good as Vagner in the means of quality but at least he´s playing with a bit of passion, not like Love.
Krasic was absolutely out, though he can be better.
Ramon has to be sold, he´s nowhere near the European football level... :(

And me thinks, Aldonin is better than Rahimic, though they both have to sit on the bench,to be honest..
Semberas had a small knock, if I remember well, so nothing serious..
- It means offside though the Russians use the word "ofsaid" as well. :)

I think you should make some radical changes :
change the manager, sell 10 old players, buy 10 new Russian super-megaplayers like Yuri Zhirkov and start preferring European players instead of the Latinamericans :o
Good luck with it, hopefully you´ll beat Spartak :D

[drac78]

Yea I agree about sacking Gazzaev too, but even then, I don't know who could replace him...I like Leonid "always swinging on his seat" Slutsky:p but I doubt he'd come as he just joined Krylia..:(...Hiddink would be ideal, but i'm just dreaming:D

anyway, we've become a shambles:(...Carvalho is overweight, Vagner Love is a lazy ass, we have players like Ramon, Ricardo Jesus who even if he plays with passion has no idea how to score goals:(...Krasic too lazy to run...39 yr old Rahimic... when was the time when we bought young and promising players:confused:

edit: just looked at the league table, and we're 9th...below Terek :'(

[McViktor]

You could sign some big manager name from Europe like Houllier or something like that :)
Or sign a Brazilian manager, that would be the best, bring back Artur Jorge, or Wanderley Luxemburgo :D
I wouldn´t see it so tragically, you have Akinfey, you have Zhirkov, who is probably the best player in Russia at the moment , Krasic can find his form anytime
The most missed player atm is probably Dudu, since your central midfielders are utter shite :o
Keep Dudu and buy a new one , that´s what I say, another Brazilian :p
I always couldn´t stand Rahimic, the only thing he knows is fouling opponents, no vision, no passing skills....
...and Ignashevich showed in the NT that he is still good, only the argues with Gazzayev are killing him

There is some sort of rumour why they started disliking each other :

On one nice day, Valeriy Georgievich found out something extraordinary in his brain - that all the players will have to weigh theirselves , some sort of compulsory. But Ignash was against it, and stole the weight and locked himself in his room. Some snitching bitches informed Gazzay and he started to shout on him through closed door and after this incident they couldn´t find really a way to each other :)

[drac78]

hahaha didn't know about that, what a fool they are:D

Luxemburgo would be nice, we would see the famous "magic square" :D:D

[McViktor]

hahaha didn't know about that, what a fool they are:D

Luxemburgo would be nice, we would see the famous "magic square" :D:D
Actually it was published in a Russian newspaper, though not very reliable one, but they could be a bit close to the truth, isn't it? :D
I really imagined now Gazzayev shouting on Ignash and banging the door :D

lol, his magic squares, he was never really given a chance at real though, he could transform the galacticos into unbeatable monsterts (maybe :o )

EDIT :
Feckin hell, I can't believe we lost to Analchik, such a pity, such a great game, so many chances (Shava missed an incredible sitter) and we couldn't score enough goals though we scored 4..anyway, a good match to learn on..

VPERYOD ZENIT !!!!!!!!!

[drac78]

lol I was shocked when I saw that result:eek: This season is quite interesting with many small teams overachieving/big teams underachieving.

Amkar are impressive, I saw on wikipedia they were at first a team of factory workers and look how they have progressed :eek: :

Year Division Place
1995 third 2
1996 second 3
1997 second 2
1998 second 1
1999 first 6
2000 first 6
2001 first 4
2002 first 6
2003 first 1
2004 premier 11
2005 premier 12
2006 premier 13
2007 premier 8
2008...they're currently 2nd!

edit: just saw Gazzaev announced he's leaving at the end oft he season! apparently he's "exhausted"...

[McViktor]

JR, how about changing your favourite team to Zenit since it´s obvious CSKA are going down? :D

actually the zenit-nalchik game was maybe the game of the season so far, so many chances, no midfield, full attack strategy
and nalchik scored four goals from crosses/free-kicks :o

but as soon as Nico Lombaerts will get fit, our defence will be extraordinary ! ;)
remember this guy, he´s a future superstar :cool:

actually you´ve got an incredible talent in the reserves, Alan Dzagoev, i watched one match with him and he set up all the 4 goals the reserves had scored (well, passed three,I think, and scored one)
Gazzay should give him a chance, he´s definitely better atm than Fatty Carvalho or Rahimic or Aldonin or whoever (apart from Dudu)...

11/07/2008
Lokomotiv said in a press release that they are willing to sell Diniyar Bilyaletdinov for 10 million euro if anybody offers the right price...
They are also keen to sell Peter Odemwingie...

[drac78]

yea Dzagoev looks promising. I saw him in a friendly and he clearly has potential :cool: Hope he doesn't turn out like Mamaev, or that other young midfielder Ryzhov (not sure of his name) who played some minutes with the first team and didn't impress me at all.

[McViktor]

yea Dzagoev looks promising. I saw him in a friendly and he clearly has potential :cool: Hope he doesn't turn out like Mamaev, or that other young midfielder Ryzhov (not sure of his name) who played some minutes with the first team and didn't impress me at all.
People who watch the reserve team league are praising him unbelievable so I just can't see him turning out to be a bust :o :)

Good luck tomorrow! I want a 3-0 result, at least ! :p
If not, I'll be angry... :D

The organisators of the match are expecting 45-50,000 people to come tomorrow, so the atmosphere will be tremendous, me thinks :)

[5150]

Good luck tomorrow! I want a 3-0 result, at least ! :p

:mad:
I hope meat will win. HOPE.
But can't really believe what's that bag of shit Cherchesov done to my favourite club, turning it to some crappy football with 6 defensive players not to count the goalkeeper. So, won’t be surprised if we lose. But still, hope for the win.

P.S. Look at the stats:
last Spartak win - March 31st, 2001
last CSKA win - September 24th, 2005
since september 2005 - six draws between these teams
Well, since CSKA aren’t in their best shape, I think, the most likely - the draw again. :cool:

[McViktor]

:mad:
I hope meat will win. HOPE.
But can't really believe what's that bag of shit Cherchesov done to my favourite club, turning it to some crappy football with 6 defensive players not to count the goalkeeper. So, won’t be surprised if we lose. But still, hope for the win.

P.S. Look at the stats:
last Spartak win - March 31st, 2001
last CSKA win - September 24th, 2005
since september 2005 - six draws between these teams
Well, since CSKA aren’t in their best shape, I think, the most likely - the draw again. :cool:
Agreed, you have to return to that typical Spartak style, short passes, lots of movement and so on...
I liked the way you played under Fedotov, I also liked Quincy though everybody hated him...
Now you have useless players like Kovalchuk, yeh, he's very good in the defense but he's absolutely useless in building of the attacks...
Salamovich doesn't give a chance to lads like Prudnikov, Dzyuba ...
Sack him and bring Fedotov back , at least the after-macth interviews will bve funny again :D

http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080711/9379/uuUFVICsWg.jpg
just look at him :rolleyes:

ps: mozhno spokoyno po russki :)

[5150]

Agreed, you have to return to that typical Spartak style, short passes, lots of movement and so on...

That's classic Spartak, why play with 2 dmf and just 1 forward?

Question: Did you look over the stoppage time of the last derby with the red-blue?
Cherchesov: No, I've seen it just once — from the bench of Luzhniki Stadium. I didn't want to watch it once again.

Ну не мудак? :D

It's a pity, but good goalkeepers never grow to the good coaches.

[McViktor]

Ну не мудак? :D

Soglasen na 100%. :D / Agreed, absolutely.
Nadeyus´ segodnya nas komandi poraduyut super-futbolom. :o :)

12/07/2008
Dzagoev :eek::eek::eek:
he´s a future national team player, what a pass on the second CSKA goal :cool:
0-2 atm, Spartak is utter crap so far :o

[drac78]

bwahaha! hey Viktor you wanted a 3-0 win, right? :D:cool:

Vagner Love is such a lazy mofo, he only performs in big games :P He and Odiah and Dzagoev are MoM so far

[McViktor]

bwahaha! hey Viktor you wanted a 3-0 win, right? :D:cool:

Vagner Love is such a lazy mofo, he only performs in big games :P He and Odiah and Dzagoev are MoM so far
Orgasmic football so far for you, i suppose ;)
5-1 at this particular moment , 80 min, unbelievable
great goal by Caner, hopefully this will help him to gain some necessary confidence
spartak, ehm, like headless chickens... :o

[drac78]

orgasmic football indeed:cool: I must say I was shocked when i saw the line up! Gazzaev finally realized that the 3-5-2 bullshit was not working!! finally we had a proper tactic:cool:

Vagner Love - he's great when he wants to...and today he wanted to:D

Odiah - very solid at RB, helping in the attack while being solid in defense, good ol' Odiah is back:cool:

Dzagoev- outstanding! he's gonna be a star!! today he showed Ricardo "I look like C. Ronaldo but I'm a terrible striker" Jesus how to play football!!!:p

Fatih- .......... I bet he's :o of his performance.


Rubin, Amkar, here we come!!:cool::cool:

[McViktor]

Fatih- .......... I bet he's :o of his performance.

Who's Fatih? :)

[5150]

Gazzaev finally realized that the 3-5-2 bullshit was not working!! finally we had a proper tactic:cool:

Well, CSKA were playing 3-5-2 in the first half. Despite the formation shown on TV, Shemberas was playing more like defensive midfielder. But later on he actually changed his position to central back. So, I really can't say that there were 4 backs all the way, but Gazzaev did have the proper tactic.

I have a friend, he's a Spartak supporter also, and he's 41 years old. He took validol today for the first time in his life - cause of this game. Cherchesov - f**k off! We don't need THAT football! That IS NOT Spartak.

Anyway, congratulations CSKA. That was the deserved win.

[drac78]

Who's Fatih? :)

The guy who got owned by Krasic and Odiah on countless occasions? :p

Well, CSKA were playing 3-5-2 in the first half. Despite the formation shown on TV, Shemberas was playing more like defensive midfielder. But later on he actually changed his position to central back. So, I really can't say that there were 4 backs all the way, but Gazzaev did have the proper tactic.


I meant 4 at the back with Odiah at right back and Krasic as right midfielder.

good luck in the future :)

[McViktor]

The guy who got owned by Krasic and Odiah on countless occasions? :p

Malik Fathi :p

I made a 1024x768 Arshavin wallpaper, not really a masterpiece but if you like it, please do use it :)
Also opinions on it are welcome :)
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080713/9379/thumbs/BWIm4S3P9h.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/3478853.html)

[nitroLT]

Hey, where can i get highlights from today's Moscow derby? Dynamo against Lokomotiv.

[McViktor]

Hey, where can i get highlights from today's Moscow derby? Dynamo against Lokomotiv.
I'll upload the highlights and the match as well, if everything will be ok with my dvd-recorder and my pc :o

[5150]

I'll upload the highlights and the match as well, if everything will be ok with my dvd-recorder and my pc :o

or, you can use torrents.ru, they've already uploaded full match video... ;) actually, more than an hour ago :)

[nitroLT]

Thanks for offer, but i can't register now.

В данный момент регистрация закрыта

Вы можете зарегистрироваться с 01:00 до 17:00 MSK (сейчас 19:04 MSK)

Приносим извинения за это временное неудобство

[McViktor]

or, you can use torrents.ru, they've already uploaded full match video... ;) actually, more than an hour ago :)

or you can download the match without actually bothering about the ratio thing :rolleyes:

[drac78]

Malik Fathi :p

I made a 1024x768 Arshavin wallpaper, not really a masterpiece but if you like it, please do use it :)
Also opinions on it are welcome :)
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080713/9379/thumbs/BWIm4S3P9h.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/3478853.html)

it looks real nice ;) I wish I knew how to use photoshop too :o

I think I'll keep my CSKA wallpaper with all the red lights and all for the moment but if you make a CSKA wallpaper or a Zhirkov one, I might change my mind:D;)

[McViktor]

it looks real nice ;) I wish I knew how to use photoshop too :o

I think I'll keep my CSKA wallpaper with all the red lights and all for the moment but if you make a CSKA wallpaper or a Zhirkov one, I might change my mind:D;)
Wooohooo, brilliant...
I'm boring my ass off eitherway so it's good for me to be occupied with something these days :D
I'll make tons of stuff, you just wait ;) (can't guarantee it will be superb, but at least there will be some SOUL in it :D )
I can't make it tomorrow but on tuesday I'm free of everything :p

14/07/2008
Drac, have you got some quality photos of Yuri Zhirkov (bigger than 600x600, at least :o ) or of any other CSKA player?
I can't find any.... :(

[drac78]

hmm red-army.ru usually has some nice photos, I'll try and find some good ones :)

edit: some good ones, i have no idea about the size though
http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=77797916&text=yuri+zhirkov
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0bCx1VEeIDbB1

[McViktor]

hmm red-army.ru usually has some nice photos, I'll try and find some good ones :)

edit: some good ones, i have no idea about the size though
http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=77797916&text=yuri+zhirkov
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0bCx1VEeIDbB1

thanks a lot, but my pc crashed, i´m on my dads laptop now so we´ll have to postpone all this :o
sorry :o :)

[Karl-Heinz]

good to see Dinamo overcame Zenit although the match did not that exciting that I expected. Zenit's defense was well-organized and crowed in the box.

Sadly Kerzhakov was not in the line-up, does someone know what happen to him?

[5150]

Sadly Kerzhakov was not in the line-up, does someone know what happen to him?

he's got syndesmitis of the knee.

[drac78]

Some transfer updates:

Zenit have bought French defender Sébastien Puygrenier from Nancy. Good defender, he'll prolly replace Shirokov.

CSKA Moskva have loaned Carvalho to Internacional to try and make him remember he's a footballer...

[McViktor]

I can´t believe it, I simply can´t believe it.....
We are absolutely unable to score a goal, we have 16 corners, we play like some professors , Andrey absolutely invisible , Konstantin tired unbelievably , the central defenders shocking, Malafeev is the worst of all...
Terrible !
We lost 1-3 to Shinnik... :mad: :(

[drac78]

wow Shinnik :eek: Zenit are just not motivated I guess, who were the Cb's today? Shirokov and Krizanac?

Meanwhile, we're now just 1 point below 3rd placed Amkar:cool:

anyway, if Advocaat gets sacked, you can get Gazzaev at the end of the season:p;)

[McViktor]

wow Shinnik :eek: Zenit are just not motivated I guess, who were the Cb's today? Shirokov and Krizanac?

Meanwhile, we're now just 1 point below 3rd placed Amkar:cool:

anyway, if Advocaat gets sacked, you can get Gazzaev at the end of the season:p;)

Krizanac - Hubocan, Ivica brought us basically all the three goals....

Actually there was such talk last year when we were struggling, I almost got a heartattack :D
Imagine that moustachied dog at Zenit :D
Well done to yous, but beating Terek is an easy job to do, even we, yes, even we managed to do that ;)

[drac78]

Krizanac - Hubocan, Ivica brought us basically all the three goals....

Actually there was such talk last year when we were struggling, I almost got a heartattack :D
Imagine that moustachied dog at Zenit :D
Well done to yous, but beating Terek is an easy job to do, even we, yes, even we managed to do that ;)

:D

How do you rate Hubocan btw? I only saw him once and he looked good in the air. Was he that good in the Slovakian league, or do you even follow the Slovakian league? :p

EDIT: LOL did you see Dzagoev's goal? :D

[McViktor]

:D

How do you rate Hubocan btw? I only saw him once and he looked good in the air. Was he that good in the Slovakian league, or do you even follow the Slovakian league? :p

EDIT: LOL did you see Dzagoev's goal? :D

I rate him almost the same as Advocaat, me thinks, as a promising player that is not fully ready for it , still has to learn the language (for a Slav quite a must), get used to team-mates and such stuff...
He looks like a very raw diamond for me, so far
I´d like to get rid of Ivica Krizanac, he stated that he won´t lengthen his contract and that he will go back to Croatia in 2010 , I think , that´s sorted.

The Puygrenier - Lombaerts pair with Hubocan as a sub seems the best solution for me.
I don´t really follow the Slovakian league excpet watching the news in the evenings, so I haven´t really seen much of him.

Yeh, I´ve seen that goal, seems like you´re having a tremendously lucky period.. ;)

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

haha Zenit lost to Shinnik in Petrovskiy cool but hard)))) :D
Дела плохи у бомжей,во время ЛЧ в чемпионате тяжелые матчи... будем надеяться что не опозорят как это сделал Спартак))

[McViktor]

Дела плохи у бомжей,во время ЛЧ в чемпионате тяжелые матчи... будем надеяться что не опозорят как это сделал Спартак))
Команду зовут Зенит, вообще-то. :rolleyes:
Вроде бы не такие уж плохие отношения между Локо и Зенитом...

зы : Биляш нам не нужен ! ;)

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

Команду зовут Зенит, вообще-то. :rolleyes:
Вроде бы не такие уж плохие отношения между Локо и Зенитом...

зы : Биляш нам не нужен ! ;)


Какой там Зенит ???:eek: Да к вам Окоронкво не пойдет, даже за самую отпетую зарплату,:D а ты про Биляша глаголишь, когда тот и так деньжища получает и поддержку и любовь фанатов Локо - в Локомотиве.:cool: Иш ты он сердце наше красно-зеленое.Вам до него еще далеко - не доросли как говорят.))
Вы нам Аршавина с Анюковым пытались впиндрить, но мы не захотели их даже бесплатно со скидкой + доплатой - брать, :D а теперь умоляли продать вам Билю (небось Газпром все свои средства готов был выделить на покупку:cool:) ! :D

Отношения Локо - Зенит хорошие(несмотря на то, что в последней встрече были провокации со стороны фанов Зенита). Ты за "бомжей" - обиды не держи, это я так для проверки что-ли. ;)

Кстати здесь выложат товарку наших с Голландцами ? Буду на стадике и хотелось бы посмотреть потом трансляцию ТВ.

[McViktor]

Какой там Зенит ???:eek: Да к вам Окоронкво не пойдет, даже за самую отпетую зарплату,:D а ты про Биляша глаголишь, когда тот и так деньжища получает и поддержку и любовь фанатов Локо - в Локомотиве.:cool: Иш ты он сердце наше красно-зеленое.Вам до него еще далеко - не доросли как говорят.))
Вы нам Аршавина с Анюковым пытались впиндрить, но мы не захотели их даже бесплатно со скидкой + доплатой - брать, :D а теперь умоляли продать вам Билю (небось Газпром все свои средства готов был выделить на покупку:cool:) ! :D

Отношения Локо - Зенит хорошие(несмотря на то, что в последней встрече были провокации со стороны фанов Зенита). Ты за "бомжей" - обиды не держи, это я так для проверки что-ли. ;)

Кстати здесь выложат товарку наших с Голландцами ? Буду на стадике и хотелось бы посмотреть потом трансляцию ТВ.

Ну и иллюзии... :D
К нам даже Макси Родригес хочет, а к вам только всякие Милановичи... ;)

Не уверен что ето были зенитовцы, откуда бы у них были билеты на сектор Локо? Может просто парочка провокаторов...

Наверное выложат, скорее всего Alien.

Локо моя команда нумеро 2, но мне кажется назначение Маматкуловича было большой ошыбкой, он тренер не топ-уровня , лучше бы уж Муслину дали времени поработать.
Но конечно, по сравнению с Бышем Рашид мега-тренер. Светоч http://www.usuck.com/images/smiles/smiley_worshippy.gif

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

Ну и иллюзии... :D
К нам даже Макси Родригес хочет, а к вам только всякие Милановичи... ;)

Не уверен что ето были зенитовцы, откуда бы у них были билеты на сектор Локо? Может просто парочка провокаторов...

Наверное выложат, скорее всего Alien.

Локо моя команда нумеро 2, но мне кажется назначение Маматкуловича было большой ошыбкой, он тренер не топ-уровня , лучше бы уж Муслину дали времени поработать.
Но конечно, по сравнению с Бышем Рашид мега-тренер. Светоч http://www.usuck.com/images/smiles/smiley_worshippy.gif

Скажу по правде Зенит у меня вторая команда после. Локо в ПЛ.)) просто мясо и коней я ненавижу, а Зенит более или менее нормальная команда без выкрутасов, хотя не приветствую поведение Адвоката. А так симпатизирую кое, в каких матчах.

По поводу Маматкуловича не соглашусь. Да, тренер он не топ-уровня. Но я сравниваю Рашида с Кобелевым. Посмотри, что он сделал с Динамо а? Уже за чемпионство тягаются, а ведь всего 2 года назад чуть ли не в последнем туре сохранили прописку в ПЛ. а Торпедо тогда вылетело.
Рахимов и Кобелев два молодых тренера, очень жесткие, могут все поставить на свои места, а нашему коллективу, это нашему Локомотиву ой как нужен жесткий тренер, чтобы все соблюдали правила, дисциплину, ну вообще, если что, чтобы поставил на место.
Я считаю вот так, вот Рахимов заключил контракт с Локо на 3 года, вот дайте поработать ему хотя бы 2 года (когда в последний раз такое было чтобы тренер задерживался у нас на более длительный срок, чем 1 год?). Конечно, это все видят, что 1 года не достаточно, чтобы поставить команду внедрить свою тактику свое понимание футбола в команду. Дайте ему продать лишних игроков, которые просто не нужны, а таких у нас много. Дайте ему купить новых игроков, каких он хочет, пусть после окончания сезона команда пойдет в отпуск, а когда вернется он будет их готовить в межсезонье. На все это не хватит одного года.
По правде говоря, у меня хорошее предчувствие по поводу Маматкуловича. Стоит еще посмотреть на то, что он сделал с Амкаром с его, то составом… вывел в премьер лигу и сделал эту команду твердым "Премьер лигистом". Первый сезон у Амкара был неудачный, но ведь остальные были на подьеме…
Считаю, что даже если займем ну скажем место с 9 по 5 Рахимова надо оставлять.
А так они похожи с Кобелевым. Считаю, что с ним мы можем пойти очень далеко, и я надеюсь на это так же как что его не уволят. Все таки думаю сделает он только лучше но хуже ни в коем случае.

[McViktor]

Скажу по правде Зенит у меня вторая команда после. Локо в ПЛ.)) просто мясо и коней я ненавижу, а Зенит более или менее нормальная команда без выкрутасов, хотя не приветствую поведение Адвоката. А так симпатизирую кое, в каких матчах.

По поводу Маматкуловича не соглашусь. Да, тренер он не топ-уровня. Но я сравниваю Рашида с Кобелевым. Посмотри, что он сделал с Динамо а? Уже за чемпионство тягаются, а ведь всего 2 года назад чуть ли не в последнем туре сохранили прописку в ПЛ. а Торпедо тогда вылетело.
Рахимов и Кобелев два молодых тренера, очень жесткие, могут все поставить на свои места, а нашему коллективу, это нашему Локомотиву ой как нужен жесткий тренер, чтобы все соблюдали правила, дисциплину, ну вообще, если что, чтобы поставил на место.
Я считаю вот так, вот Рахимов заключил контракт с Локо на 3 года, вот дайте поработать ему хотя бы 2 года (когда в последний раз такое было чтобы тренер задерживался у нас на более длительный срок, чем 1 год?). Конечно, это все видят, что 1 года не достаточно, чтобы поставить команду внедрить свою тактику свое понимание футбола в команду. Дайте ему продать лишних игроков, которые просто не нужны, а таких у нас много. Дайте ему купить новых игроков, каких он хочет, пусть после окончания сезона команда пойдет в отпуск, а когда вернется он будет их готовить в межсезонье. На все это не хватит одного года.
По правде говоря, у меня хорошее предчувствие по поводу Маматкуловича. Стоит еще посмотреть на то, что он сделал с Амкаром с его, то составом… вывел в премьер лигу и сделал эту команду твердым "Премьер лигистом". Первый сезон у Амкара был неудачный, но ведь остальные были на подьеме…
Считаю, что даже если займем ну скажем место с 9 по 5 Рахимова надо оставлять.
А так они похожи с Кобелевым. Считаю, что с ним мы можем пойти очень далеко, и я надеюсь на это так же как что его не уволят. Все таки думаю сделает он только лучше но хуже ни в коем случае.

Может ты полностью прав , поживем-увидим.. :)
Кстати, не знаеш где можно в Москве купить новую форму Зенита ? С уже нанесенным именем , если можно... :o

we Bought Danny From Dynamo Moscow !

[drac78]

we Bought Danny From Dynamo Moscow !

Did you really get him for 30m?? :eek:

[McViktor]

Did you really get him for 30m?? :eek:

Yes, it seems so, but as the insiders say, the Dynamo main sponsor is basically a sub-division of Gazprom, so it´s like putting money from one pocket to another.
But, to be honest, nobody knows for how much did he cost , it´s all guesses.
But apparently he had a buy-out clause in his contract , we took advantage of this because Dynamo didn´t want to sell him (they´ll be a LOT weaker without him).

As for the 19th round, it was very positive for me, well, maybe except the win of Rubin, but they´ll slip up someday, I have no clue how on earth are they still first with such tremendously shit football .
Spartak also played a draw with Dynamo, the best thing that could happen imo.
A very bore draw for CSKA Moscow, I´ve heard some people saying that it was the worst match of the season :p .
We won 3-0, Puygrenier finally showed some glances of his skills, The Great Po scored two goals and we proved to ourselves , again, that we can play well without Andrey , with the utmost respect towards him.
Saturn with the new manager, Jurgen Rober, also won 2-1 against Luch.

Now I need only Real to win and the day would be absolutely perfect. ;)

And sorry for the Russian-language intermezzo, I understand this is an English site. :o

[drac78]

Yes, it seems so, but as the insiders say, the Dynamo main sponsor is basically a sub-division of Gazprom, so it´s like putting money from one pocket to another.
But, to be honest, nobody knows for how much did he cost , it´s all guesses.
But apparently he had a buy-out clause in his contract , we took advantage of this because Dynamo didn´t want to sell him (they´ll be a LOT weaker without him).

As for the 19th round, it was very positive for me, well, maybe except the win of Rubin, but they´ll slip up someday, I have no clue how on earth are they still first with such tremendously shit football .
Spartak also played a draw with Dynamo, the best thing that could happen imo.
A very bore draw for CSKA Moscow, I´ve heard some people saying that it was the worst match of the season :p .
We won 3-0, Puygrenier finally showed some glances of his skills, The Great Po scored two goals and we proved to ourselves , again, that we can play well without Andrey , with the utmost respect towards him.
Saturn with the new manager, Jurgen Rober, also won 2-1 against Luch.

Now I need only Real to win and the day would be absolutely perfect. ;)

And sorry for the Russian-language intermezzo, I understand this is an English site. :o

I guess that means Arshavin will leave for sure now?

I guess Rubin's secret is their weird Turkmenistani (?) coach who, during the games, instead of giving instructions to his players etc, just sits on the bench praying clutching his prayer bead:rolleyes:

The CSKA game was indeed very boring with very few chances:( I can't wait for next season now, with a new manager (hopefully Bozovic:cool:) who will use more than 13 players...hopefully we'll also sign some players...

[McViktor]

I guess that means Arshavin will leave for sure now?

I guess Rubin's secret is their weird Turkmenistani (?) coach who, during the games, instead of giving instructions to his players etc, just sits on the bench praying clutching his prayer bead:rolleyes:

The CSKA game was indeed very boring with very few chances:( I can't wait for next season now, with a new manager (hopefully Bozovic:cool:) who will use more than 13 players...hopefully we'll also sign some players...

The thing is, nobody knows what will be Andrey´s future, I think even himself he isn´t convinced what does he want. On the one hand he wants to play abroad, on the other he has 2 kids, family and a chance to become an all-time legend.
His interviews are always misinterpretable, misty , and to be honest, I´m already a bit bored about all this talk, let him do what he wants and fine...

Berdyev is a freak, the journalists have no access to players, they can´t film their training sessions, it´s like some sort of sect there.

Anyway, as for CSKA, the thing is, you have to change your preferred nation from Brazil into some country that is closer than that and therefore the mentality wouldn´t be so different (wanting to play in 45 degrees á la Brazilians). Serbians would be good (seeing how good Krasič is) or maybe even French? , who knows , now we can already buy French players, which is great, so let the expansion begin! :D

[drac78]

The thing is, nobody knows what will be Andrey´s future, I think even himself he isn´t convinced what does he want. On the one hand he wants to play abroad, on the other he has 2 kids, family and a chance to become an all-time legend.
His interviews are always misinterpretable, misty , and to be honest, I´m already a bit bored about all this talk, let him do what he wants and fine...

Berdyev is a freak, the journalists have no access to players, they can´t film their training sessions, it´s like some sort of sect there.

Anyway, as for CSKA, the thing is, you have to change your preferred nation from Brazil into some country that is closer than that and therefore the mentality wouldn´t be so different (wanting to play in 45 degrees á la Brazilians). Serbians would be good (seeing how good Krasič is) or maybe even French? , who knows , now we can already buy French players, which is great, so let the expansion begin! :D

or Russians (Arshavin, Zyryanov...):p
French players will be quite difficult, remember how Valbuena turned down a move to Zenit even for a lot of money:o
I agree we must stop the Brazilian obsession though, especially if those Brazilians are Ramon, Ricardo Jesus..
I say we should get some Amkar players -for some reason I'm really starting to like this Amkar team:o-I wouldn't mind Dujmovic and Drincic instead of Rahimic and Aldonin...we should try again to buy Savin too and give Kalouda his chance to shine in the first team...:cool:

[McViktor]

or Russians (Arshavin, Zyryanov...):p
French players will be quite difficult, remember how Valbuena turned down a move to Zenit even for a lot of money:o
I agree we must stop the Brazilian obsession though, especially if those Brazilians are Ramon, Ricardo Jesus..
I say we should get some Amkar players -for some reason I'm really starting to like this Amkar team:o-I wouldn't mind Dujmovic and Drincic instead of Rahimic and Aldonin...we should try again to buy Savin too and give Kalouda his chance to shine in the first team...:cool:

You´ll never get this , you´ll never get this, tralalala :p ;) (I´m talking about our Russian players)
Valbuena didn´t turn us down because we were "uncool" or "unsexy" or anything, it´s just he wanted to remain loyal to Marseille ;)

Your Amkar love is surely based on the love of the red colour ;)
But yeh, well done to them , a very hard team to beat, with no stars , Dujmovic makes a tremendous job in the midfield, though invisible, and Drincic has very good set pieces , so the choice is very good ;)
But Bozovic is the man behind the success , one of the best managers in the game .

This season seems to be lost for you in my humble opinion, but you will come strong in the next one ;)

[krameria]

Может ты полностью прав , поживем-увидим.. :)
Кстати, не знаеш где можно в Москве купить новую форму Зенита ? С уже нанесенным именем , если можно... :o

we Bought Danny From Dynamo Moscow ! http://www.nevasport.ru/news.php?id=19048

[McViktor]

http://www.nevasport.ru/news.php?id=19048

Спасибо, уже читал. Не понятно, мы вроде КЕУ а форму Зенита просто невозможно купить. (Ну,конечно кроме карликовских размеров) :o

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Ребята, удачи с Реалом и Юве. Покажите, что хоть кто-то в России умеет играть в футбол. Жаль ДК не к вам попало - отомстили бы... Не за нас хотя бы, за Россию... :(

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

Ребята, удачи с Реалом и Юве. Покажите, что хоть кто-то в России умеет играть в футбол. Жаль ДК не к вам попало - отомстили бы... Не за нас хотя бы, за Россию... :(

+1 !!!!!! покажите всей европе на что способны Русские!!!!!!!!!

ВПЕРЕД ЗЕНИТ !!!!!! ВПЕРЕД ЗА ПИТЕР И ЗА РОССИЮ !!!!!!!

[McViktor]

Ребята, удачи с Реалом и Юве. Покажите, что хоть кто-то в России умеет играть в футбол. Жаль ДК не к вам попало - отомстили бы... Не за нас хотя бы, за Россию... :(

+1 !!!!!! покажите всей европе на что способны Русские!!!!!!!!!

ВПЕРЕД ЗЕНИТ !!!!!! ВПЕРЕД ЗА ПИТЕР И ЗА РОССИЮ !!!!!!!

Спасибо вам большое , в таких моментах вся страна должна быть едина.
Покажем етим зазомбированным капиталистам кузькину мать ! :D
Впереееееед за Питер!

[krameria]

спасибо ребята, впреред Зенит!

тута новости про Аршаву: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=567217&sec=england&campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901

[McViktor]

Мы сделали ЭТО !!!!!!!!!

С просто великолепной победой, друзья , вперед Россия !

[drac78]

SPOILERS;







congrats on the win mate!!! couldn't watch the game but somehow I knew you'd win;) a big lol @ scholes' goal with his hand:D

[McViktor]

congrats on the win mate!!! couldn't watch the game but somehow I knew you'd win;) a big lol @ scholes' goal with his hand:D
A tremendous thank you, I´m raving right now :D
I recommend you to download it from somewhere, it´s the game of the century, possibly, for us. :)
I wouldn´t even say ManYoo underestimated us, it´s as simple as it can be, we were more dangerous, more agile, and simply better. :D

Hopefully France is celebrating along with Seb Puygrenier.
Good night ;)

[hibby1875]

2 cups of happiness to all the Zenit fans! :cool:

Things seem to be looking brighter and brighter for your side. Now time to catch those 11 points up in the league, before taking on those little teams in the CL. ;)

But that is for the future, tonight is your night. Anyone got an spare invite to the party in Monaco? :confused::)

BTW, Danny looks a great acquisition and looks like he has played with Zenit for years. Good timing too.

[McViktor]

2 cups of happiness to all the Zenit fans! :cool:

Things seem to be looking brighter and brighter for your side. Now time to catch those 11 points up in the league, before taking on those little teams in the CL. ;)

But that is for the future, tonight is your night. Anyone got an spare invite to the party in Monaco? :confused::)

BTW, Danny looks a great acquisition and looks like he has played with Zenit for years. Good timing too.
QFT , but who needs Monaco if you are living in a small peaceful village, lets DANCE !!! :D WOOHHOOO ;) *shaking hips wildly*
Today was probably our best performance in our history, a historical win for our city, for our country and for all the fans...
We´re no longer unknown, we are the mighty Zenit ! :p

Danny , I think I´m gonna build him a statue. ;)
Good night everyone!!

[hibby1875]

http://img12.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/0/2/7/a/a/027aaca934c9a2950f81f87144b90b94_full.jpg
http://img11.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/a/7/e/b/1/a7eb1bff48ace543d0afc303e544e5a4_full.jpg
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http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Manchester+United+v+Zenit+St+Petersburg+UEFA+cIPm3 dwWd-yl.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/reuters/20080829/21/722903202.jpg
http://fourfourtwo.com/contentimages/gallery/items/Danny.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3430/verimagenphpbm0.jpg
http://fourfourtwo.com/contentimages/gallery/items/Scholes1.jpg
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00028/paul_scholes_28943a.jpg
http://img13.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/7/b/8/5/9/7b859b295f810eb6d669876dd8e70037_full.jpg
http://img12.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/8/4/2/d/2/842d2f167368faca080b27812b57e3af_full.jpg
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Manchester+United+v+Zenit+St+Petersburg+UEFA+hkVUs k98CBcl.jpg
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Manchester+United+v+Zenit+St+Petersburg+UEFA+I6wLi AtlZ1yl.jpg
http://www.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20080829/03.jpg

Zenit coach happy with win, closes door on Arshavin move (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080829/ten-uk-soccer-uefa-supercup-quotes-eaebf69.html)

[McViktor]

Brilliant pics there, Mark ;)

Anyway, the 20th round of RPL starts today, the headliner match is the CSKA - Lokomotiv one (today at 2pm - Slovakian time).
Dynamo Moscow signed the Australian Luke Wilshire from Twente (who the feck wants to be "taught" by the brilliant umbrella tactician?).
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080830/9379/thumbs/VMuM6qFKp6.jpg (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/6316129.html)

Rubin Kazan signed Alexey Popov from Amkar Perm, the 30-year old defender was their captain. Me thinks Bozovic has a very good knowledge of the Serbian/Croatian market and will buy some good player on it. ;)

ZENIT IS THE CHAMPION !!!

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Молодчаги ! Видич забил, Зенит победил - просто отлично ! :)

Тем временем Лаудруп поставил условие - приобретение как минимум 6 игроков. Глядя на наше болото, я ним согласен. Я бы даже заменил восьмерых-девятерых.

[McViktor]

Молодчаги ! Видич забил, Зенит победил - просто отлично ! :)

Тем временем Лаудруп поставил условие - приобретение как минимум 6 игроков. Глядя на наше болото, я ним согласен. Я бы даже заменил восьмерых-девятерых.
Он уже сто пудово ваш тренер ?

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Он уже сто пудово ваш тренер ?

Говорят, что подписан предварительный контракт и он сразу с собой тащит какого-то игрока...

[drac78]

Anyway, the 20th round of RPL starts today, the headliner match is the CSKA - Lokomotiv one (today at 2pm - Slovakian time).


CSKA Moskva IS THE CHAMPION !!!

and we won 2-0 :cool: Zhirkov and Dzagoev had a great game, I'd say Dzagoev should be given a chance with the NT, he looks fearless when he plays:cool:

we had a crazy ref who gave yellow cards whenever a player breathed too close to another player, someone must've talked to him at half time as he stopped this yellow card crazyness in the 2nd half:rolleyes:

anyway, sucks that Amkar lost against Rubin:(

[McViktor]

and we won 2-0 :cool: Zhirkov and Dzagoev had a great game, I'd say Dzagoev should be given a chance with the NT, he looks fearless when he plays:cool:

we had a crazy ref who gave yellow cards whenever a player breathed too close to another player, someone must've talked to him at half time as he stopped this yellow card crazyness in the 2nd half:rolleyes:

anyway, sucks that Amkar lost against Rubin:(
Dzagoev is definitely in the top10 of the hottest talents on this planet, he´s immense :eek:
Of course, Zhirkov was, as always unbelievably good, but it´s already some sort of a must for him :)

The ref was Almir Kayumov, terrible refereeing...

Rubin are a bunch of lucky bastards :mad:
Check out the full match section, I put there some RPL matches, will try to share some fresh matches as well :) (later)

[drac78]

Check out the full match section, I put there some RPL matches, will try to share some fresh matches as well :) (later)

Nice, will you put Rubin-Amkar there too? Even though I know the result, I'm still curious to see this game:)

[McViktor]

Nice, will you put Rubin-Amkar there too? Even though I know the result, I'm still curious to see this game:)

Basically I´m stealing the links, so if the nice admin of that site uploads the game , then I´m the first to share it with you :)
Don´t watch it, Rubin sucks ;)

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Вить, у тебя нет случайно игры отборочного раунда ЛЧ 06/07 Спартак - Шериф ?
Я уж и не знаю где искать...

[McViktor]

Вить, у тебя нет случайно игры отборочного раунда ЛЧ 06/07 Спартак - Шериф ?
Я уж и не знаю где искать...

Нет, у меня нет , да и найти не получилось , этот матч практичеки невозможно скачать :(
На torrents.ru еще можешь спросить кого-то :o

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Я даже на форуме оф. сайта Шерифа спрашивал - без толку.

[drac78]

Time for some update:

We are now on 4th position, 1 point below 2nd placed Dinamo Moscow and 3rd placed Amkar. I must say i haven't seen Dinamo much this season, but they didn't impress me against Rubin, Kerzhakov especially looks completely out of form... Rubin look certain to be champions now, they looked dangerous against Dinamo when they were attacking in the beginning of the 1st half and look solid defensively too....oh and they also have luck on their side:p

Next week big game CSKA - Zenit, a win for Zenit would get them level on points with us but that's obviously not gonna happen as they'll be tired after beating Juventus and Vagner will have his usual good game against good opposition;)

Ideally, we should finish 2nd, Zenit 3rd and Amkar 4th:cool:

[McViktor]

Time for some update:

We are now on 4th position, 1 point below 2nd placed Dinamo Moscow and 3rd placed Amkar. I must say i haven't seen Dinamo much this season, but they didn't impress me against Rubin, Kerzhakov especially looks completely out of form... Rubin look certain to be champions now, they looked dangerous against Dinamo when they were attacking in the beginning of the 1st half and look solid defensively too....oh and they also have luck on their side:p

Next week big game CSKA - Zenit, a win for Zenit would get them level on points with us but that's obviously not gonna happen as they'll be tired after beating Juventus and Vagner will have his usual good game against good opposition;)

Ideally, we should finish 2nd, Zenit 3rd and Amkar 4th:cool:
Thanks for the update ;)
Rubin is incredibly lucky this season, sat in defence the whole game yesterday, and they got away with it, unbelievable....
Imagine them next year in the Champions League, jeezus, my hair will turn grey at the age of 20 ...

I´m still not convinced that Rubin will win it, a team with such ridiculous tactics can´t win anything, or maybe I´m too much of an idealist? :o
Anyway, next week Spartak-Rubin, if they win it, I fail, but honestly I will support Spartak with all my heart...

I have a good feeling about the Juventus match, don´t know why, woman intuition ;)
If CSKA will beat us, I´ll have no problems with it, but there may not be a draw, because it would be lethal for the whole league :eek:
Either CSKA or Zenit wins, they have to beat the shit out of Rubin...
Actually most of the Russian football fans does not want Rubin to win it, they play the least attractive football in the league, are a "sectarian" club and their manager is a hell of a "branleur" (french term I searched out :D)

Amkar have beaten Shinnik in a very hard match, the UEFA Cup is almost a certainty for them, I think. Lokomotiv Moscow also slowly starts to wake up from their winter dream and they can cause a lot of damage to others...

So, may the better one win, it means everybody except Rubin :D

[drac78]

I wouldn't trust Spartak to beat Rubin, I saw a part of their game against Moskva and they didn't impress me at all, they all seem to be underperforming especially Pletikosa, who imo is one of the best gk in the RPL...
I dunno why Rubin play so defensively, they have some decent players like Sibaya and Noboa who I wouldn't mind seeing at CSKA:o

lol @ branleur :D actually, we use this term more to talk about someone very lazy (basically spending all his time wanking:D branleur-wanker) or maybe that was what you meant:o:p

What do people think about Dinamo, I mean them potentially in the CL next season? They were really not impressive against Rubin, I really wonder how they got to the 2nd spot...

ps: I hope your "woman intuition" is right:D

[McViktor]

I wouldn't trust Spartak to beat Rubin, I saw a part of their game against Moskva and they didn't impress me at all, they all seem to be underperforming especially Pletikosa, who imo is one of the best gk in the RPL...
I dunno why Rubin play so defensively, they have some decent players like Sibaya and Noboa who I wouldn't mind seeing at CSKA:o

lol @ branleur :D actually, we use this term more to talk about someone very lazy (basically spending all his time wanking:D branleur-wanker) or maybe that was what you meant:o:p

What do people think about Dinamo, I mean them potentially in the CL next season? They were really not impressive against Rubin, I really wonder how they got to the 2nd spot...

ps: I hope your "woman intuition" is right:D
The whole Spartak team is underperforming, hopefully Laudrup will teach them how to play football :D Even if they are arch rivals, it´s pretty unusual to see them playing so shit... during the whole season..

The potentially best player at Rubin is Ansaldi, me thinks, I still wonder why he went there from Boca...
But I absolutely agree about Noboa and Sibaya, very useful, hard-working players..

I just typed in the word Viktor on the french google and this was the first word I´ve got - branleur :D

As for Dynamo Moscow, absolutely everybody , maybe except the the Dynamo fans, think that they will slip down on the table, without Danny they aren´t that dangerous (the recent matches prove it)....
And most of the people think (or maybe want) Shinnik and Luch will go down... you know why the poor Luch-Energiya ;):D

[drac78]

The whole Spartak team is underperforming, hopefully Laudrup will teach them how to play football :D Even if they are arch rivals, it´s pretty unusual to see them playing so shit... during the whole season..

The potentially best player at Rubin is Ansaldi, me thinks, I still wonder why he went there from Boca...
But I absolutely agree about Noboa and Sibaya, very useful, hard-working players..

I just typed in the word Viktor on the french google and this was the first word I´ve got - branleur :D

As for Dynamo Moscow, absolutely everybody , maybe except the the Dynamo fans, think that they will slip down on the table, without Danny they aren´t that dangerous (the recent matches prove it)....
And most of the people think (or maybe want) Shinnik and Luch will go down... you know why the poor Luch-Energiya ;):D

oh yea I can't believe I forgot about Danny there :o

Luch didn't look too bad against us on Sunday, now of course their pitch is horrible, but I wonder why they don't get artificial grass like Amkar (they have artificial grass, don't they?:o). Also, I think it's nice to have a North Korean team in the RPL:p It changes from travelling from Moscow to ...Moscow:P

[McViktor]

oh yea I can't believe I forgot about Danny there :o

Luch didn't look too bad against us on Sunday, now of course their pitch is horrible, but I wonder why they don't get artificial grass like Amkar (they have artificial grass, don't they?:o). Also, I think it's nice to have a North Korean team in the RPL:p It changes from travelling from Moscow to ...Moscow:P

Yep, Luch isn´t a bad team but it would be better for all the teams if they were not in the league, these awful 10-12 hour flights are killing everybody..
Yeh, Amkar do have an artificial pitch, basically in Ural it is almost a must :o
Are you still in love with them? :) I like them more and more, too.

As you mentioned North Korea :D There was a story...
Krilya Sovetov bought a North Korean player this year , he was one month with the team, then went to a national team match and never came back, no one knows what´s with him... :o

I shouldn´t be really moaning on the far east, they make tremendous caviar :p (it´s not that expensive in Russia as in Europe, and it´s a lot better,too)

[drac78]

Yep, Luch isn´t a bad team but it would be better for all the teams if they were not in the league, these awful 10-12 hour flights are killing everybody..
Yeh, Amkar do have an artificial pitch, basically in Ural it is almost a must :o
Are you still in love with them? :) I like them more and more, too.

As you mentioned North Korea :D There was a story...
Krilya Sovetov bought a North Korean player this year , he was one month with the team, then went to a national team match and never came back, no one knows what´s with him... :o

I shouldn´t be really moaning on the far east, they make tremendous caviar :p (it´s not that expensive in Russia as in Europe, and it´s a lot better,too)

Imagine Luch playing in European cup, they would travel for days :D
Yea, they're becoming my 2nd favourite team in Russia (Zenit would come 3rd:o:p)

I'm surprised they even let him leave North Korea in the first place:eek:

[McViktor]

Imagine Luch playing in European cup, they would travel for days :D
Yea, they're becoming my 2nd favourite team in Russia (Zenit would come 3rd:o:p)

I'm surprised they even let him leave North Korea in the first place:eek:
No one can support Luch, no one! Just wait for the moment when your team will get beaten by Luch and you´ll see how much do you hate them :D
ANd this is their manager : http://www.pbsbih.ba/sport/2007/april/09/zoran%20vulic.jpg

I think the North Korean bloke was a spy, pretty possible, spying through football, here you can see how innovative are the children of Kim Chong-Il :D

[drac78]

No one can support Luch, no one! Just wait for the moment when your team will get beaten by Luch and you´ll see how much do you hate them :D
ANd this is their manager : http://www.pbsbih.ba/sport/2007/april/09/zoran%20vulic.jpg

I think the North Korean bloke was a spy, pretty possible, spying through football, here you can see how innovative are the children of Kim Chong-Il :D

LOL @ the photo :D he looks like a real farmer:D

[McViktor]

21st round of the Russian Premier League :
Rubin-Dynamo (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112568)
CSKA-Luch (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112566)
FK Moskva-Spartak (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112564)
Terek-Zenit (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112562)

[McViktor]

Nightmare, real fuckin nightmare !!!
We could´ve scored 12 goals and we lose 1-3 ?!!!! :mad:
The second penalty was ehm.... insert profanity here.... veeeeeeeery doubtful

[drac78]

Nightmare, real fuckin nightmare !!!
We could´ve scored 12 goals and we lose 1-3 ?!!!! :mad:
The second penalty was ehm.... insert profanity here.... veeeeeeeery doubtful

hi mate! :D what a fucking great game by the whole team :cool:
Yea you could've scored 12 goals but so could we, remember the several one-on-ones that Vagner and Krasic missed. Akinfeev was great, my MoM, Odiah, Krasic and Vagner (as usual against a strong team) had a good game too. And what about Dzagoev? Great first goal, good composure, they'd better make him the most promising player in FM09 :D

Puygrenier (not Pyuigrenier as written on his shirt:p) was horrendous, outpaced by Krasic on several occasions. The penalty was fair imo, Puygreneir clearly did not aim for the ball in his tackle.

Some more good news for you, Rubin are leading 1-0 against Spartak :D

[McViktor]

hi mate! :D what a fucking great game by the whole team :cool:
Yea you could've scored 12 goals but so could we, remember the several one-on-ones that Vagner and Krasic missed. Akinfeev was great, my MoM, Odiah, Krasic and Vagner (as usual against a strong team) had a good game too. And what about Dzagoev? Great first goal, good composure, they'd better make him the most promising player in FM09 :D

Puygrenier (not Pyuigrenier as written on his shirt:p) was horrendous, outpaced by Krasic on several occasions. The penalty was fair imo, Puygreneir clearly did not aim for the ball in his tackle.

Some more good news for you, Rubin are leading 1-0 against Spartak :D
I didn´t say you couldnt score 12 goal, the thing is, you scored three, which is 25 percent, we scored one, which is utter rubbish percent...
previously i liked pogrebnyak, but today he was totally absent, he could eat a baguette the whole game and he would be just as useful as he was :mad:
we really miss nicolas lombaerts, krizanac is a fuckin joke, sell him to a provincial mongolian club...
anyukov played with a "couldn´t be bothered" attitude, zyryanov was like a ghost...

dzagoev is great on the ball , great positioning and vision, a scoring midfielder, which is very rare, collaborates with vagner very well
i already was impressed at the spartak 5-1 match, where he player better imo, so it´s no surprise for me

puygrenier should be given some time, i can´t be really critical of him, i see he wants to be useful but still the collab with the dick krizanac isn´t really good :o

anyways, what´s troubling me the most, is andrey, he seems so absent from the game :(

yeh, and as an addition, those bloody shiteaters aka rubin are winning :mad:
but i knew that you can´t be successful all the time (uefa, champs, supercup) we are going through those matches now, when we can´t win even if we are playing 11 against 2, the fuckin ball simply couldn´t find its way to the net...

just on a sidenote, the more I watch zhirkov closely , the more I dislike him, seems very arrogant to me, to hell with him :p

IN 2009, WE WILL TAKE OUR REVENGE AND OWN ALL THE TEAMS !!!! :cool::p

[drac78]

I didn´t say you couldnt score 12 goal, the thing is, you scored three, which is 25 percent, we scored one, which is utter rubbish percent...
previously i liked pogrebnyak, but today he was totally absent, he could eat a baguette the whole game and he would be just as useful as he was :mad:
we really miss nicolas lombaerts, krizanac is a fuckin joke, sell him to a provincial mongolian club...
anyukov played with a "couldn´t be bothered" attitude, zyryanov was like a ghost...

dzagoev is great on the ball , great positioning and vision, a scoring midfielder, which is very rare, collaborates with vagner very well
i already was impressed at the spartak 5-1 match, where he player better imo, so it´s no surprise for me

puygrenier should be given some time, i can´t be really critical of him, i see he wants to be useful but still the collab with the dick krizanac isn´t really good :o

anyways, what´s troubling me the most, is andrey, he seems so absent from the game :(

yeh, and as an addition, those bloody shiteaters aka rubin are winning :mad:
but i knew that you can´t be successful all the time (uefa, champs, supercup) we are going through those matches now, when we can´t win even if we are playing 11 against 2, the fuckin ball simply couldn´t find its way to the net...

just on a sidenote, the more I watch zhirkov closely , the more I dislike him, seems very arrogant to me, to hell with him :p

IN 2009, WE WILL TAKE OUR REVENGE AND OWN ALL THE TEAMS !!!! :cool::p

"he could eat a baguette the whole game and he would be just as useful as he was" :D:D

I think the main problem here is motivation. And I think we have the same problem, we were horrible gainst Slaven in the Uefa cup and now look how well everyone played. Same for Vagner, he hadn't done shit for months and look how lively he was today.

I think it's the same for Zenit, you won almost everything last season, so it's hard to find the motivation to win the RPL again. And especially when you always keep the same line-up!! I really think advocaat should've brought in more than 1 player. You need young players who are hungry for playing time (like Dzagoev for ex....no wait he is special :P)or some subs who want to prove they can be in the starting 11. Why didn't he bring in Faizulin for ex.? What happened to Kim (forgot the rest of his name:p)?

Come on Krizanac is a good player, he was solid in the Uefa cup games;)

hmm, i don't really find Zhirkov arrogant (or are you still bitter he didn't join Zenit? :D;)) and anyway a player as good as him can afford to be arrogant :o

[McViktor]

"he could eat a baguette the whole game and he would be just as useful as he was" :D:D

I think the main problem here is motivation. And I think we have the same problem, we were horrible gainst Slaven in the Uefa cup and now look how well everyone played. Same for Vagner, he hadn't done shit for months and look how lively he was today.

I think it's the same for Zenit, you won almost everything last season, so it's hard to find the motivation to win the RPL again. And especially when you always keep the same line-up!! I really think advocaat should've brought in more than 1 player. You need young players who are hungry for playing time (like Dzagoev for ex....no wait he is special :P)or some subs who want to prove they can be in the starting 11. Why didn't he bring in Faizulin for ex.? What happened to Kim (forgot the rest of his name:p)?

Come on Krizanac is a good player, he was solid in the Uefa cup games;)

hmm, i don't really find Zhirkov arrogant (or are you still bitter he didn't join Zenit? :D;)) and anyway a player as good as him can afford to be arrogant :o

I know, I know, the problem is the motivation , but such games are pretty hard shit to swallow, for the fans, of course ...

The thing is , we don´t have any good players coming through...
Fayzulin is useless, I don´t know what happened to him, maybe he caught the "star-illness" but his usefulness on the pitch is very near to 0 :o
Kim is sitting on the bench, don´t make him up, he never was something super-special, I think we didnt lose the game because of šírl , so I´m ok with him...

Btw, you stole Dzagoev from Krilya Sovetov, did you know that ? ;)
Money rules, as they say :D

I am not bitter at all about zhirkov, I didnt want him because it would mean that one of the left-flank players should sit on the bench, and I don´t want neither Sirl nor Denisov sitting on the bench (they are very loyal players and very hard-working, so I say no to "immigrants" :D)

Križanac is a dick, full-stop...
Before the game he had an interview (saying that zenit is twice as good as CSKA) , which surely fired the armymen up, you always rather say these diplomatic rubbish phrases than this....
he simply has no brain.. :rolleyes:
I do agree Hubočan should be given some time instead of Krizanac

[drac78]

What about that youngster Ionov? is he any good?

Didn't know that about Dzagoev but he surely has joined the right club:cool:

I think we have some good youngsters coming through with Ryzhov (ok he wasn't great when he came on today, but you can see he has something in him:o), Shennikov and then you also have Kalouda..:cool:. I'm starting to wonder if letting Gazzaev go at the end of the season was not a mistake. I wonder who'll replace him...

[McViktor]

What about that youngster Ionov? is he any good?

Didn't know that about Dzagoev but he surely has joined the right club:cool:

I think we have some good youngsters coming through with Ryzhov (ok he wasn't great when he came on today, but you can see he has something in him:o), Shennikov and then you also have Kalouda..:cool:. I'm starting to wonder if letting Gazzaev go at the end of the season was not a mistake. I wonder who'll replace him...

Ionov is no good and will never be in my humble opinion, he´s quite weak on the ball , his passes are usually "something for the fans" so they end up on the tribunes :o

Ryzhov and Shennikov are only average players imo, as were Burmistrov and such previous talents... :o
Kalouda is good, but he has to be given some time to improve himself...
And don´t forget yous have signed Necid, who scored 6 goals in 5 matches so far in the czech league...

I have a really strong gut feeling that Gazzay will be our next manager , don´t know if it is a good or a bad thing :p

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Приветствую товарищей по выбыванию из чемпионской гонки. И тех, кто её ещё продолжает тоже. :d

[McViktor]

Приветствую товарищей по выбыванию из чемпионской гонки. И тех, кто её ещё продолжает тоже. :d

:D:D:D

[McViktor]

The best match of the weekend Here (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113334)
Some pretty good football by us, so far, if Andrey (Arshavin) did not play, we always have won :confused: ;)

[drac78]

Looks like your friend Krizanac didn't play :D Did Hubocan impress?

[McViktor]

Looks like your friend Krizanac didn't play :D Did Hubocan impress?
Yeh, he impressed me totally, very fast with good vision, he and Puygrenier are working together perfectly so far
Puy is a relatively slow def, but perfect positionally, perfect headers and sliding tackles, but if he´s slow, there´s Tomáš to cover. ;)

Also congrats on your win against Tom, though I supported Tom because of their manager, Valeriy Nepomnyashiy, who is a very good man and specialist in my opinion...
It seems you are the only one who can stop Rubin now. ;)

The best news of the weekend, the super match Rubin-Moskva, brilliant , Bracamonte is the hero of the day ! :D
This was such a great weekend - Zenit, Real, Hull, now Rubin losing even though I know I should not support against a team.

[drac78]

Yeh, he impressed me totally, very fast with good vision, he and Puygrenier are working together perfectly so far
Puy is a relatively slow def, but perfect positionally, perfect headers and sliding tackles, but if he´s slow, there´s Tomáš to cover. ;)

Also congrats on your win against Tom, though I supported Tom because of their manager, Valeriy Nepomnyashiy, who is a very good man and specialist in my opinion...
It seems you are the only one who can stop Rubin now. ;)

The best news of the weekend, the super match Rubin-Moskva, brilliant , Bracamonte is the hero of the day ! :D
This was such a great weekend - Zenit, Real, Hull, now Rubin losing even though I know I should not support against a team.

Good to know, maybe he'll be given a chance in the CL too although Krizanac has more experience...tough choice to make for Avdocaat.

I still can't believe we're now 2nd despite our terrible form at the beginning of the season, I think Dzagoev has been a key factor to our sudden rise to the top, now let's fight for the title:cool:

anyway, you really need to pick up as many points as possible if you don't wanna miss a place in the CL next season, it would be a crime if you weren't in the CL next season imo....or you can try to win it this year to guarantee a place next year;)

btw, I see you're now supporting Hull City...how come? :o

[McViktor]

Good to know, maybe he'll be given a chance in the CL too although Krizanac has more experience...tough choice to make for Avdocaat.

I still can't believe we're now 2nd despite our terrible form at the beginning of the season, I think Dzagoev has been a key factor to our sudden rise to the top, now let's fight for the title:cool:

anyway, you really need to pick up as many points as possible if you don't wanna miss a place in the CL next season, it would be a crime if you weren't in the CL next season imo....or you can try to win it this year to guarantee a place next year;)

btw, I see you're now supporting Hull City...how come? :o
Križanac is left out of the squad for the Real game, hopefully it means he will not play anymore, from what I´ve seen, he conversates quite well with Contofalsky on the bench, that is his place. :D

One hour to before the match, I´m pretty angry because no one airs it over here, I have to watch a a shitty stream to watch one of the most important matches of the century. :o

The final table of the RPL :
1.CSKA
2.Rubin
3.Zenit

I´m supporting Hull, actually I do not know why I support them, but they are a young, aggressive, victory-hungry team (the characteristics are pretty much the same as for myself, except I´m handsome,too :D).
I like their kit, I like their mascot, I like their manager, Phil Brown... I don´t have a favourite player, though. :o
I recommend you to support them as well, they´re great. :D

[drac78]

Križanac is left out of the squad for the Real game, hopefully it means he will not play anymore, from what I´ve seen, he conversates quite well with Contofalsky on the bench, that is his place. :D

One hour to before the match, I´m pretty angry because no one airs it over here, I have to watch a a shitty stream to watch one of the most important matches of the century. :o

The final table of the RPL :
1.CSKA
2.Rubin
3.Zenit

I´m supporting Hull, actually I do not know why I support them, but they are a young, aggressive, victory-hungry team (the characteristics are pretty much the same as for myself, except I´m handsome,too :D).
I like their kit, I like their mascot, I like their manager, Phil Brown... I don´t have a favourite player, though. :o
I recommend you to support them as well, they´re great. :D

So you still think Hubocan should start ahead of Krizanac now?:p Big mistake to start him in such an important game imo, that was only his what? 2nd game with Zenit?...

It's not aired here either:D anyway, I wanted to watch this game so badly I had to skip a class (and because it was a boring class too:D)

I like that final table...though I see that you want Rubin above Zenit:D

haha yea they're not bad, Wigan are a pretty nice team too;)

[:::::::www444::::::::]

Prived Senit
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Estero/Primo_Piano/2008/10/01/zenit.shtml

[McViktor]

So you still think Hubocan should start ahead of Krizanac now?:p Big mistake to start him in such an important game imo, that was only his what? 2nd game with Zenit?...

It's not aired here either:D anyway, I wanted to watch this game so badly I had to skip a class (and because it was a boring class too:D)

I like that final table...though I see that you want Rubin above Zenit:D

haha yea they're not bad, Wigan are a pretty nice team too;)

I don´t want to make a scapegoat from Hubočan but he failed ultimately, the thing was, we didn´t have any other defenders, Shirokov is no defender ;) - Lombaerts, our best def, is out injured, Križanac has discipline problems and wasnt nominated for the match.

I have absolutely mixed feelings about the match, since I support Real, but I think we deserved at least a point. Pity...

I dont want Rubin above Zenit but there are too many points difference between us and them so it would be something like a miracle if we did end up above them...

Actually, I have a soft spot for Wigan,too. :D Hull and Wigan, thats it. :D

Prived Senit
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Estero/Primo_Piano/2008/10/01/zenit.shtml

What people wouldnt do to raise their ratings :rolleyes:

[Phenom]

I have absolutely mixed feelings about the match, since I support Real, but I think we deserved at least a point. Pity...



you certainly did mate..being where you are is just so wrong imo;)

[McViktor]

Zenit Sankt Peterburg - Luch-Energiya Vladivostok 8:1

[Chingón]

Zenit Sankt Peterburg - Luch-Energiya Vladivostok 8:1 haha my god what numbers! got to see this game. Are u going to release it?

[drac78]

Zenit Sankt Peterburg - Luch-Energiya Vladivostok 8:1

haha I guess you're even more happy as it was against Luch? :D;)

[McViktor]

haha my god what numbers! got to see this game. Are u going to release it?
This is a must-have match so I´ll search the whole internet to get this game :D
If someone will provide some links to it, then I´ll steal it and release, but I can´t upload it myself because I don´t have enough time during the week and speeds are utterly awful :o

haha I guess you're even more happy as it was against Luch? :D;)

Aye, this is a bloody good revenge for their water polo :D

[Hellgate]

should be a dozen of goals...but anyway, 8 was enough for Lych :D

[Bruun]

That was so lol.

Since Michael Laudrup got a job in Russia Danish television is showing league games and highlights :rolleyes:

But an 8-1 thrashing... is that normal? Looked very easy for Zenit.

[drac78]

Here's the group we got in the Uefa cup: Deportivo, Feyenoord, Nancy, and Lech. We can definitely finish in the 1st 3 places imo.

Meanwhile, Dzagoev got his first call up for the Russian NT!!:cool: I hope he gets some playing time.

[McViktor]

Drac, feyenoord, nancy and cska to advance, mark my words ;)

btw, you forgot that our beloved super-loyal powerhorse, igor denisov, is capped too, after a problematic time with hiddink everything is ok and the best passer of the russian league will be available (btw, most passes, most passes made, most accurate passes - he´s first in everything)

bilyaletdinov has to be sent home washing potatoes :p

[drac78]

Drac, feyenoord, nancy and cska to advance, mark my words ;)

btw, you forgot that our beloved super-loyal powerhorse, igor denisov, is capped too, after a problematic time with hiddink everything is ok and the best passer of the russian league will be available (btw, most passes, most passes made, most accurate passes - he´s first in everything)

bilyaletdinov has to be sent home washing potatoes :p

that would be ideal but Nancy are really terrible this season, I can't see them getting more than 1 point in this group.

yea it's about time Denisov got called up, do you think he'll be a starter or will Saenko start instead? Personally, I'd start Denisov and Dzagoev instead of Semshov :cool:

btw, looks like Sychev and....Glushakov have also been called up. How good is Glushakov? I haven't followed loko much lately.

[McViktor]

that would be ideal but Nancy are really terrible this season, I can't see them getting more than 1 point in this group.

yea it's about time Denisov got called up, do you think he'll be a starter or will Saenko start instead? Personally, I'd start Denisov and Dzagoev instead of Semshov :cool:

btw, looks like Sychev and....Glushakov have also been called up. How good is Glushakov? I haven't followed loko much lately.

Nancy will come back strong, I believe.. They are not only Sebastien (Puygrenier) ;):D

For me, Denisov is the best Russian midfielder at the moment, the kilometres he´s running and the passes he is delivering, incredible, fighter and a quite technical player at the same time.
Dzagoev comes second for me, quite on level with Kostya Zyryanov. They are great offensively, but defence is not really their cup of tea, even though they work hard at the back.
So, if we are playing 4-3-3 á la Zenit ;) , it could look like this :
Dzagoev - Denisov (defensive midfielder ;)) - Zyryanov
Semshov is slow and his passes are useless, Semak is no defensive midfielder and usually fails at this position.
In the attack we could make an Arshavin - Pogrebnyak (who´s been quite weak lately, dunno why, maybe because Bayern declared interest in him :rolleyes:) - Zhirkov triangle (Zhirkov is much better in attack as in defense)
but, of course, I´m no NT coach and it won´t happen like this...

Saenko, Bystrov, Pavlyuchenko - all on the bench !!! :p

Sychev seems to regain some bits of his good ol´ form, we´ll see...
Glushakov is a fighter sort of midfielder, not that good offensively, but maybe he is still ashamed to show his sexy skills on the pitch
but at least he is playing regularly at lokomotiv..

[drac78]

Nancy will come back strong, I believe.. They are not only Sebastien (Puygrenier) ;):D

For me, Denisov is the best Russian midfielder at the moment, the kilometres he´s running and the passes he is delivering, incredible, fighter and a quite technical player at the same time.
Dzagoev comes second for me, quite on level with Kostya Zyryanov. They are great offensively, but defence is not really their cup of tea, even though they work hard at the back.
So, if we are playing 4-3-3 á la Zenit ;) , it could look like this :
Dzagoev - Denisov (defensive midfielder ;)) - Zyryanov
Semshov is slow and his passes are useless, Semak is no defensive midfielder and usually fails at this position.
In the attack we could make an Arshavin - Pogrebnyak (who´s been quite weak lately, dunno why, maybe because Bayern declared interest in him :rolleyes:) - Zhirkov triangle (Zhirkov is much better in attack as in defense)
but, of course, I´m no NT coach and it won´t happen like this...

Saenko, Bystrov, Pavlyuchenko - all on the bench !!! :p

Sychev seems to regain some bits of his good ol´ form, we´ll see...
Glushakov is a fighter sort of midfielder, not that good offensively, but maybe he is still ashamed to show his sexy skills on the pitch
but at least he is playing regularly at lokomotiv..

hmm Denisov as a defensive midfielder? I see your bias against Rubin is growing (Semak):p Seriously, I'm not a big fan of him either but he's the captain and it would be wrong to replace him now imo.

I agree about Zhirkov but who would you play at left back? Alexandra Berezutskiy? :D (meh, I shouldn't make fun of my team's players:o) Plus, he's a very attacking left back in Hiddink's team so I don't mind him playing at left back until we have a decent left back ready for this level (Grigoriev/Shennikov?:o)

I also agree about Saenko and Bystrov (wtf is going on with him anyway, last time I saw him he was horrendous) on the bench though. Pavlyuchenko seems to always play well with the NT so it's a tough battle between him and Pogrebnyak, although I think Pav is injured now so Pogrebnyak will prolly play..

Also, don't forget Kolodin is injured so Viktoria berezutskiy (ok I stop:p) will play but he's in much better form that he was before the euro so it should be fine...

[McViktor]

hmm Denisov as a defensive midfielder? I see your bias against Rubin is growing (Semak):p Seriously, I'm not a big fan of him either but he's the captain and it would be wrong to replace him now imo.

I agree about Zhirkov but who would you play at left back? Alexandra Berezutskiy? :D (meh, I shouldn't make fun of my team's players:o) Plus, he's a very attacking left back in Hiddink's team so I don't mind him playing at left back until we have a decent left back ready for this level (Grigoriev/Shennikov?:o)

I also agree about Saenko and Bystrov (wtf is going on him anyway, last time I saw him he was horrendous) on the bench though. Pavlyuchenko seems to always play well with the NT so it's a tough battle between him and Pogrebnyak, although I think Pav is injured now so Pogrebnyak will prolly play..

Also, don't forget Kolodin is injured so Viktoria berezutskiy (ok I stop:p) will play but he's in much better form that he was before the euro so it should be fine...

This time it is no bias against Rubin, simply Semak is not a defensive midfielder, never was (plays a right midfielder at Rubin) and Igor Denisov plays pretty much a defensive midfielder this year and is so far, the best player of the russian league (for me).
The fact that the others don't see it is a different matter (Dzagoev is the talent of the season).
Semak is a temporary captain, and not the best one in my humble opinion, I'd rather have someone more authoritative.

Zhirkov will play on the left side , no worries, it's just I was complaining that this way we won't see the real Yuri. There are no decent covers for him, so it's a pretty clear-cut decision.
Grigoriev is a man for the future, Sennikov is bad, performing constantly is an unknown word for him.

Bystrov is going downhill, he realised he will never win anything with Spartak ;)

I don't mind the Berezutskis now, they seem to be in a good form, hopefully they won't lose it suddenly.

[Chingón]

is there a site where i could find statistics from RPL? in english of course. More than just standings and top scorers.

Igor Denisov is an impressive player. I have huge respect for defensive midfielders who bust their asses off through-out the game.

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

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Две тысячи рублей? Идите в попу.
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еще приколы
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[mumoko]

I have not read all pages but could someone explain in two three sentences what has been the secret behind Rubin success this year? Are they the champions?

I admire Russian league - if every league was so unpredicatble with almost different top 3 every season - football would be more appealing.

[McViktor]

is there a site where i could find statistics from RPL? in english of course. More than just standings and top scorers.

Igor Denisov is an impressive player. I have huge respect for defensive midfielders who bust their asses off through-out the game.
I've been unable to find one, I mean an english RPL stats site..sorry
There isn't a big amount of them in Russian, too, maybe there are none at all. :o
The official Russian football broadcaster, HTB+ is showing stats during the matches they show, Russian of course, that's my source number one. :o

And the best thing about Denisov is, that he is playing a DM only this season, before it he was an AM and a CM, was considered one of the best attacking talents of the decade.

I have not read all pages but could someone explain in two three sentences what has been the secret behind Rubin success this year? Are they the champions?

I admire Russian league - if every league was so unpredicatble with almost different top 3 every season - football would be more appealing.

There are quite a lot of reasons :
- first of all, Rubin is celebrating its 50th anniversary and there was quite a lot of money invested in players like Savo Milosevic or Sergey Rebrov
- second, their super-ultra-pragmatical football (which is terrible to watch, btw)
- third, underappreciation from the usual top teams
- fourth, the usual top teams had to solve their own serious problems

They are not champions yet, in my opinion CSKA still has a very good chance to raise the trophy at the end of the season.

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Ну что какие мысли по поводу завтрашнего матча ? Витя, что думаешь ? Ничья или как ?

[McViktor]

Ну что какие мысли по поводу завтрашнего матча ? Витя, что думаешь ? Ничья или как ?

Deutschland - Russland 0:3

Vot eto budet na tablo ;)

[athlete]

хотелось бы увидеть красивую игру)

[mirka]

Если будем стабильно так классно играть, как с немцами во втором тайме, к ЧМ войдём в тройку лучших (я о рейтинге ФИФА :))

Игра сборной вселяет надежду на лучшее. 50% игрового времени мы имели абсолютное премущество, заставили немцев прижиматься к воротам... и это - в самом сложном матче отборочного раунда, с фаворитами группы, да ещё и на их территории... Во всех остальных матчах мы просто обязаны побеждать, всё самое страшное уже произошло :)

[Hellgate]

Если будем стабильно так классно играть, как с немцами во втором тайме, к ЧМ войдём в тройку лучших (я о рейтинге ФИФА :))

Игра сборной вселяет надежду на лучшее. 50% игрового времени мы имели абсолютное премущество, заставили немцев прижиматься к воротам... и это - в самом сложном матче отборочного раунда, с фаворитами группы, да ещё и на их территории... Во всех остальных матчах мы просто обязаны побеждать, всё самое страшное уже произошло :)
будем надеяться :)

[McViktor]

1:0 poka, avtogol u finnov :cool:

[McViktor]

Spartak Nalchik - Zenit 2:2

Просто безобразие какое-то.... опять на последних минутах упускаеи три очка... щас на гостевой Зенита обсирают всех и вся, жалкое зрелище :(
Ну ничего, наш Зенит-чемпион ! :p
Победим БАТЭ и всё будет окей :o

[mirka]

Arshavin for Golden Ball ;)

[McViktor]

Жирков тоже, правда он сам не верит что может выиграть. ;)
Ну а если быть обьективными, то Андрей Сергеевич должен быть в топ-3, но у него есть большой минус - он русский и играет в России, а это не "cool" для жюри (пока).

[mirka]

...он русский и играет в России, а это не "cool" для жюри

А как же тогда Яшин, Блохин и Беланов?.. :confused:

Я тоже надеюсь на то, что он попадёт в тройку, но конкуренция слишком высока, поэтому трудно делать какие-то прогнозы. Боюсь, у Роналду сейчас больше шансов, чем у всех остальных вместе взятых: мало того, что он является, наверное, самым популярным игроком мира, он теперь ещё и обладатель Кубка ЛЧ и лучший бомбардир турнира прошедшего сезона :( Но, с другой стороны, судьбу Мяча определяет всё-таки не УЕФА и не общественное мнение, поэтому есть надежда на победу Андрея :) Ведь он в этом году тоже постарался: КУЕФА, бронза Евро, СКУЕФА, игра за сборную в отборочном цикле ЧМ и за Зенит в матче против Реала... есть за что награждать :D

З.Ы. У Юры шансов на порядок меньше. Не то, чтобы он меньше достоин, просто пока не настолько "раскручен", чтобы соревноваться с игроками вроде Джеррарда и Торреса. Хотя, - повторюсь, - он ничуть не меньше достоин Золотого Мяча.

[McViktor]

А как же тогда Яшин, Блохин и Беланов?.. :confused:

Я тоже надеюсь на то, что он попадёт в тройку, но конкуренция слишком высока, поэтому трудно делать какие-то прогнозы. Боюсь, у Роналду сейчас больше шансов, чем у всех остальных вместе взятых: мало того, что он является, наверное, самым популярным игроком мира, он теперь ещё и обладатель Кубка ЛЧ и лучший бомбардир турнира прошедшего сезона :( Но, с другой стороны, судьбу Мяча определяет всё-таки не УЕФА и не общественное мнение, поэтому есть надежда на победу Андрея :) Ведь он в этом году тоже постарался: КУЕФА, бронза Евро, СКУЕФА, игра за сборную в отборочном цикле ЧМ и за Зенит в матче против Реала... есть за что награждать :D

З.Ы. У Юры шансов на порядок меньше. Не то, чтобы он меньше достоин, просто пока не настолько "раскручен", чтобы соревноваться с игроками вроде Джеррарда и Торреса. Хотя, - повторюсь, - он ничуть не меньше достоин Золотого Мяча.

Говорю про теперешнее положение дел, и между прочим считаю что Блохин и Беланов получили золотой мяч не потому что они были лучшими в Европе. Это так, между прочим. Конечно это все субьективно, тем более что я очень уж не люблю Блохина...

ИМХО - Роналду в етом году (2008) никакой по сравнению с 2007-м, про Роналдиньо даже говорить не стоит, лучшим в этом году был Шави/Хави из Барселоны (говорю это как болельщик Реала) и, скажем, Икер Касильяс. Андрей на третем месте в моём списке, хотя сентябрь-октябрь он провалил по (нам) понятным причинам.
Да, Торрес и Вилья тоже хороши, но лучшим игроком должен быть игрок , который умеет все...

Судьбу мяча определяют журналисты, мне кажется. ;)

На каком-то форуме кто-то задал вопрос : А есть ли левофланговой игрок лучше Жиркова? До сих пор думаю...
Если честно, то он заслуживает мяч больше Андрея, а то играет константно хорошо, весь сезон, всех рвет, нет психологических проблем, очень лояльный игрок , тоже много чего стоит... :D
Наш Андрей все свалить и свалить...

[mirka]

Говорю про теперешнее положение дел, и между прочим считаю что Блохин и Беланов получили золотой мяч не потому что они были лучшими в Европе. Это так, между прочим. Конечно это все субьективно, тем более что я очень уж не люблю Блохина...

Хочешь сказать, ты видел не только достаточное количество матчей с участием Блохина, но и с участием остальных 49 футболистов, вошедших в предварительный список в 1975-м году, чтобы утверждать, что Блохин не являлся самым достойным? ;)

ИМХО - Роналду в етом году (2008) никакой по сравнению с 2007-м

А ЛЧ?
Весь плей-офф пришёлся, как раз, на 2008 год

...лучшим в этом году был Шави/Хави из Барселоны (говорю это как болельщик Реала)

(Его ещё называют Чави. Вот и думай, как его зовут на самом деле :D)
Ну, если бы в список не попал наш Шава, я бы, наверное, болела именно за него. Думаю, у него есть все шансы на то, чтобы как минимум попасть в тройку.

Судьбу мяча определяют журналисты, мне кажется. ;)

Тебе не кажется. Так и есть.

На каком-то форуме кто-то задал вопрос : А есть ли левофланговой игрок лучше Жиркова? До сих пор думаю...
Если честно, то он заслуживает мяч больше Андрея, а то играет константно хорошо, весь сезон, всех рвет, нет психологических проблем, очень лояльный игрок , тоже много чего стоит... :D
Наш Андрей все свалить и свалить...

Но почему-то несмотря на это, именно Аршавина называют лучшим игроком России: как внутри страны, так и за её пределами. Моё скромное мнение: если бы не Андрей - не видать нам евробронзы. Победа над голландцами - это на 60% его заслуга. Для сборной он абсолютно незаменимый игрок, да и Зенит без Аршавина очень многое теряет: достаточно посмотреть статистику, сколько голов забивается за клуб непосредственно Андреем и с его передач. Домингес никогда не сможет его заменить. Да и вряд ли в клубе появится когда-нибудь второй Аршавин.

[McViktor]

Хочешь сказать, ты видел не только достаточное количество матчей с участием Блохина, но и с участием остальных 49 футболистов, вошедших в предварительный список в 1975-м году, чтобы утверждать, что Блохин не являлся самым достойным? ;)
А ЛЧ?
Весь плей-офф пришёлся, как раз, на 2008 год
(Его ещё называют Чави. Вот и думай, как его зовут на самом деле :D)
Ну, если бы в список не попал наш Шава, я бы, наверное, болела именно за него. Думаю, у него есть все шансы на то, чтобы как минимум попасть в тройку.
Тебе не кажется. Так и есть.
Но почему-то несмотря на это, именно Аршавина называют лучшим игроком России: как внутри страны, так и за её пределами. Моё скромное мнение: если бы не Андрей - не видать нам евробронзы. Победа над голландцами - это на 60% его заслуга. Для сборной он абсолютно незаменимый игрок, да и Зенит без Аршавина очень многое теряет: достаточно посмотреть статистику, сколько голов забивается за клуб непосредственно Андреем и с его передач. Домингес никогда не сможет его заменить. Да и вряд ли в клубе появится когда-нибудь второй Аршавин.

Ну, может не надо было про Блохина, не видел я его никогда вживую :p
Но хочется верить что такой отвратный человек не являлся лучшим игроком мира. Наивно и идеалистично, но все равно.

А Беланов ,мне кажется, получил (даже) потому что вырвался из Советского Союза и играл на западе. Марадона то точно не хуже Беланова был. :)

Про Кристину Роналдо не хочется обьяснятся. Но ненавижу когда даже абсолютные "нубы" талдычат Криштиано, Криштиано и при этом вообще не разбираются в футболе. (у меня много таких одноклассниц, тема на мобильнике - голый Криштиано, полуголый Криштиано итд.)
И понимаю что это мои комплексы говорят сейчас... :D

Но ты разбираешься в футболе очень хорошо, поетому мой ответ таков - есть люди, которые весь год играли лучше Кристины, только у них есть большой минус - у них нет тела Аполлона и раскрученность Димы Билана (сокращнная форма - ДиБилан). А Кристина забьет гол в финале и сразу все должны умереть от екстаза. Лампард тоже забил, и кто про него говорит сейчас? - никто.

Чори до сих пор не показал настоящего Алехандро, в Рубине он играл оргазмический футбол, правда, тогда на 10 кг легче был. ;)
Конечно - Андрей уникум и гениальный футболист, но в плане стабильности игрок лабильный. Игрок, как напр. Данни (да, я знаю, разноплановые они) , который играет постоянно хорошо, может не гениально, но хотя бы без каких-то там матчей "а-сейчас-мне-не-хочется" , может быть более полезным для команды.

Согласен что в (почти) триумфальном походе на Швейцарию роль Андрея Сергеевича очень важная, но ты сама знаешь почему он так играл, и меня это как болельщика Зенита огорчает, что наш лучший (по таланту) игрок хочет свалить за бугор, тем не менее буду его любить не смотря ни на что (в гетеросексуальном смысле,конечно) .

Сейчас мой самый любимый зенитовец Гарик Денисов, нет амбиций свалить, странный человек (как и я), но все равно делает все на 5*.
Ну и конечно Коля Ломбертс, образованный футболист (сам не верю что я написал) , лояльный, и что самое важное, он более секси чем Биля.

Пока и наслаждайся осенью. :)
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[drac78]

Some updates:

We are fucking amazing!!:cool: Undefeated in 16 games now I think, scoring goals for fun, and we're on our way to our 2nd Uefa cup.

The title is unfortunately going to Rubin as they have easier fixtures in the last 4 games, and even if we beat them at home they'd need to lose 1 more game and draw another not be champions.:(

Meanwhile, Zenit got another draw againt a lesser side but they have the advantage of playing against direct rivals Amkar, Dinamo and Spartak, so everything's still possible for them.

ps: Dinamo suck!

[McViktor]

Some updates:

We are fucking amazing!!:cool: Undefeated in 16 games now I think, scoring goals for fun, and we're on our way to our 2nd Uefa cup.

The title is unfortunately going to Rubin as they have easier fixtures in the last 4 games, and even if we beat them at home they'd need to lose 1 more game and draw another not be champions.:(

Meanwhile, Zenit got another draw againt a lesser side but they have the advantage of playing against direct rivals Amkar, Dinamo and Spartak, so everything's still possible for them.

ps: Dinamo suck!

You're not gonna get the UEFA Cup, I'm absolutely certain, but you can still win the RPL, so please do it, I'm rooting for you ;)

Why couldn't you win the RPL? The answer is easy - Vagner Love is on his way to warmer places this winter, that's for sure.
Even though you bought Necid from Slavia, who is playing orgasmic football at the age of 19, Love is a whole level above him.
There are other reasons as well, most of teams won't underappreciate you, yer gonna start as favourites in most of the games in the group phase, which is already a bad track to run in.

Dzagoev recently said the he wants to stay at CSKA, that in the foreseeable future he wants to be with the team that gave him the chance. There were some rumours that Real Madrid wants to buy him, but nobody confirmed them.

Meanwhile, we played another draw with Saturn (at home!ffs) so the season is already lost for us, but we have to hope in our team. I don't blame at all, the players aren't used to play 70 matches a season (friendlies+RPL+Uefa-cup+Champions League) so they have no mental and physical powers at the end of the season.
but the joy they gave us will be always remembered.

the weekend promises some very good matches, I'm already salivating :D

[Enties]

We actually won a game :rolleyes:

Hopefully we can beat Dynamo on monday and get a UEFA place for next season but I kind of doubt it though. And yes drac CSKA has been on fire lately :eek:

[mirka]

...we're on our way to our 2nd Uefa cup.

Not this season, 'cuz we're going to keep the Cup for some next years :D
...but it could be great to face CSKA as our rival in the final :rolleyes:

[drac78]

Not this season, 'cuz we're going to keep the Cup for some next years :D
...but it could be great to face CSKA as our rival in the final :rolleyes:

Remember you still have to beat BATE away to finish at least 3rd;) But you're right, it would be great to beat you in the uefa cup final:p;)

[mirka]

...it would be great to beat you in the uefa cup final:p;)

You meant "to be beaten by you" :p
:D :D :D

[Lokomotiv Moscow]

We actually won a game :rolleyes:

Hopefully we can beat Dynamo on monday and get a UEFA place for next season but I kind of doubt it though. And yes drac CSKA has been on fire lately :eek:

Приветствую железнодорожников из Швеции !:)

[McLaren]

I've recently watch the highlights from the game between CSKA and Spartak. Spartak won thanks to Bazhenov's goal who scored after Bystrov's assist. I am really surprised with the goal. Who was marking Bystrov? He got the ball on the penalty box and no one was standing near to him to block the possible shot or pass. I've heard that Rubin are the champions if they will win their next game. Is it true?

[drac78]

I've heard that Rubin are the champions if they will win their next game. Is it true?

Pretty much yea, if they win their next game, we would be 10 pts adrift of them with 3 games left to play..:(

[Enties]

Приветствую железнодорожников из Швеции !:)

Hallo! :)

Do you know if ГУРЕНКО and МАМИНОВ will play in Lokomotiv 2009?

I hope you understand my question :)

[McViktor]

Hallo! :)

Do you know if ГУРЕНКО and МАМИНОВ will play in Lokomotiv 2009?

I hope you understand my question :)
I don't know if I may intervene and smartass here but they both seem to be unnecessary at the club so who knows?..
Maminov's contract ends this year, I think Gurenko's as well, and Rakhimov is quite keen for a generational exchange imo, so it pretty much seems that this is their last year.

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Anyways, a great day for me since we finally managed to win. Even though against the relegation candidate Khimki, but at the end of the day no one checks against whom did you get those points.
Danny scored a nice goal (nice means great), we dominated the game as usual, but still had problems in the defensive area. Somehow there's no feckin way to make our defending smooth and problemless...

As for the other match of the day, the Moscow derby, I felt it innerly that Spartak will win, simply because everyone said that CSKA are the favourites.
The Spartak goal was weird, the Bereza sisters daydreamed as usual and gave Bystrov as much time as was necessary.
Subbing Ryzhov in was a huge mistake, Janczyk (considering his last year impact) would've been much better.
Zhirkov slept badly the other day or something, he was in this provocative mood the whole match.

Tomorrow, Saturn - Rubin, the most boring match a man can imagine, maybe after a women's pensioner world championships.... :p
But the only thing we have now is hope so lets hope the aliens can deliver :)

[McLaren]

I'll definitely will be watching the game between Saturn and Rubin, because I want to know if they will win the title. I watched today's Zenit's match and I have to say I was really bored during 90 minutes. It was a poor display, but Danny's goal was quite good. Anyway, I don't like the celebration when the player points at his name on the shirt. ;) It's weird. He seems to be a quality signing for Zenit, but I haven't watched many of their games this season. But you can't be bad if you score against Man United on the debut...

The Spartak goal was weird, the Bereza sisters daydreamed as usual and gave Bystrov as much time as was necessary.
Subbing Ryzhov in was a huge mistake, Janczyk (considering his last year impact) would've been much better.
Zhirkov slept badly the other day or something, he was in this provocative mood the whole match.

Hahaha. Goal scored by Bazhenov was really strange. CSKA defenders terribly fucked up and it was an easy work for Bystrov. I watched only the second half, but it was a deserved win for Spartak.

Is Janczyk really that bad? He has so many problems with playing in the starting line-up. I read yesterday that he's close to returning to Poland. GKS Belchatow are in talks with him and it's possible that he will leave Moscow in the near future.

[McViktor]

I'll definitely will be watching the game between Saturn and Rubin, because I want to know if they will win the title. I watched today's Zenit's match and I have to say I was really bored during 90 minutes. It was a poor display, but Danny's goal was quite good. Anyway, I don't like the celebration when the player points at his name on the shirt. ;) It's weird. He seems to be a quality signing for Zenit, but I haven't watched many of their games this season. But you can't be bad if you score against Man United on the debut...

Hahaha. Goal scored by Bazhenov was really strange. CSKA defenders terribly fucked up and it was an easy work for Bystrov. I watched only the second half, but it was a deserved win for Spartak.

Is Janczyk really that bad? He has so many problems with playing in the starting line-up. I read yesterday that he's close to returning to Poland. GKS Belchatow are in talks with him and it's possible that he will leave Moscow in the near future.

How on earth did you manage to watch the Zenit match? i was searching for some stream links or anything the whole match, nothing nowhere... :o

The thing is, Janczyk played so few matches that no one knows on what actual level he is.They've got Vagner Love and somehow he isn't willing to get injured so Janczyk has very little minutes to play. And even if he does, he's obviously out of the best form because he hasn't been playing since 2006.

Maybe it's his mental problems (I mean, problems with acclimatisation or something) or the manager Gazzayev is a piece of raving animal (which he certainly is :D).

[McLaren]

How on earth did you manage to watch the Zenit match? i was searching for some stream links or anything the whole match, nothing nowhere...

Hahaha. I watched it on JustinTv! (http://www.justin.tv/zenit12) :D

The thing is, Janczyk played so few matches that no one knows on what actual level he is.They've got Vagner Love and somehow he isn't willing to get injured so Janczyk has very little minutes to play. And even if he does, he's obviously out of the best form because he hasn't been playing since 2006.

So they are playing only with a single striker up front? Vagner Love is a big talent, I remember him from the season when CSKA won the UEFA Cup. I thought that he will finally join one of the strongest leagues in Europe, but Jo did. It was a great due at the club. I think Janczyk is still talented, but not good enough for that club and even for the national club.

He is not bad technically, fast player with a nice dribble, but he was not worth the money the Russians paid for him. It was about 4,2 mln, but for me he was worth around 800k. Legia made a great deal, because he wasn't even a star at the club, but a solid player only.

Currently I am watching the game between Saturn and Rubin.

[drac78]

As Viktor said, noone really knows how good Janczyk is as he never plays, he doesn't even come in as a sub.. and it doesn't help that the coach only uses 14 players and the rest is only there to make the conversation on the bench...

About the game against Spartak...it was obvious we were the far better team, but we were just very unlucky, Spartak are as bad as Dinamo and I can't see them challenge for the title next year unless Laudrup buys 8 or so new players.

I also think subbing Ryzhov in was a mistake, Gazzaev should've brought in Caner instead who is better than Ryzhov imo and can be dangerous on free kicks. I hope we buy some new players next year as our only decent options on the bench now are Rahimic and Caner.

[mirka]

RUBIN IS THE NEW CHAMPION OF RUSSIA

:(

P.S. They've became the 3rd non-Moscow Champions in the RPL history:

1991-1994 - Spartak Msc
1995 - Alania (Spartak Vladikavkaz)
1996 - 2001 - Spartak Msc
2002 & 2004 - Lokomotiv (Moscow)
2003, 2005-2006 - CSKA (Moscow)
2007 - Zenit (St. Petersburg)
2008 - Rubin (Kazan, Republic of Tatarstan)

[McLaren]

Well. Why did they buy him? He does not play, but they paid big money. Of course, Russian clubs are rich, but it was a waste of money.

Rubin Kazan are the new champions of Russia! What a big achievement! Who would have expected that before the start of the season. I am not sure but I think that Zenit were just focusing on the UEFA Cup in spring and Rubin was amazing in the first phase of the season. I don't remember exactly, but they probably won 9 out of 10 games.

Today's game wasn't very interesting, but the second half was a lot better. After a goalless first half, Rubin played nice football and I thought it's all over when Roman Adamov scored the opener in the 75th minute. 5 minutes later Nemov equalized, but just before the finish, Savo Milosevic (Legend! He's still an active player!) gave them the lead and secured the title.

[drac78]

Damn it!:( Now I hope we thrash them in 2 weeks!

[McViktor]

Today is a sad day for Russian football , I can't even imagine what will Rubin play in the Champions League, but yeh, it's their mistake, they made the soup, they should eat it :o
I've never seen anyone winning a title with such shitty football, call it pragmatic or whatever, but this's like the Italians winning the world cup - no one is celebrating except the Italians and the Italy fans... :rolleyes:

[mirka]

...this's like the Italians winning the world cup - no one is celebrating except the Italians and the Italy fans... :rolleyes:

Exactly :D

[McLaren]

this's like the Italians winning the world cup - no one is celebrating except the Italians and the Italy fans...

Well said.

I didn't hear anything about Rubin for example 3 years ago. At least it's a "new" team to win the title, because in the past it was all about CSKA/Lokomotiv/Spartak fighting to win the league. Anyway, I would have liked more Zenit to win, but you guys fucked up early this season. It's such a shame that the team is now on the 5th place...

[mirka]

I didn't hear anything about Rubin for example 3 years ago.

Btw, Rubin had never played in Premier League until 2003, but they'd finished 3rd the same year. The next year (2004) they became only 10th; 2005 - 4th place; 2006 - 5th; 2007 - 10th (!!!), 2008 - 1st (!!!!!!) :confused:

What about Zenit, I don't think we could have finished first again :( We've got a weak defence alongside with a very low percent of realization; bronze would be an excellent result in our case :(

[mirka]

Аааааааа!!!!! Пашка!!!!! Красавчег :D
Вот он, лучший бомбардир КУЕФА 2007/2008 :D
Ну наконец-то мы ведём в счёте ;)
Блин, да где же раньше был этот Зенит... тот самый Зенит, который не привык проигрывать...

Главное - сохранить преимущество (а по возможности - увеличить) до конца матча.
Молодчеги :D

BATE 0:2 ZENIT

I am the happiest person in the world at the moment :)
First CL win... finally... not the last, I hope :D

[drac78]

wow can Zenit get luckier than this?:p Gotta feel sad for BATE, they really didn't deserve to lose 2-0. Anyway, deserved red card for Puygrenier who was bad throughout the game imo, maybe Zenit can look for a better centre back next season..

EDIT: another easy win against Feyenoord 3-1 :cool: I told you this Uefa cup is ours!!

[McViktor]

Hello everyone, privet vsem, been off this week because my internet connection died and I had to wait 'til today to have it repaired, thank god it's good now :)

Anyway, I couldn't even watch the Zenit match because of my "loss" :p
But I'm absolutely sure we deserved it!

Apart from this I was a bit surprised how well did CSKA beat feyenoord on an away match.
On the other hand, Spartak lost at home against Udinese, but then, this game was hugely affected by the referee, gave the diving and shouting Italians a very ridiculous penalty, which was the game-winning goal in the end...

[drac78]

Hello everyone, privet vsem, been off this week because my internet connection died and I had to wait 'til today to have it repaired, thank god it's good now :)

Anyway, I couldn't even watch the Zenit match because of my "loss" :p
But I'm absolutely sure we deserved it!

Apart from this I was a bit surprised how well did CSKA beat feyenoord on an away match.
On the other hand, Spartak lost at home against Udinese, but then, this game was hugely affected by the referee, gave the diving and shouting Italians a very ridiculous penalty, which was the game-winning goal in the end...

You definitely didn't deserve it, but I guess only the result matter in the end...

Anyway, how can you be surprised by us?:p We're one of the most in form team in Europe atm, if we didn't lose -very undeservedly- against Spartak, we'd be on a 20 match or so unbeaten run now :eek:

[mirka]

You definitely didn't deserve it, but I guess only the result matter in the end...

Sure it is :mad:
We were playing a superb football, but what have we got after three matches?.. - Only 1 f#@kin' point!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

We didn't deserve?!! That's stupid. Zenit is the only one club in our CL group who really deserved points :D :D :D (Again, previously we were showing a great football and we couldn't take points, but now we are tired of being respected losers & we're just taking what we didn't take before)

[McViktor]

Sure it is :mad:
We were playing a superb football, but what have we got after three matches?.. - Only 1 f#@kin' point!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

We didn't deserve?!! That's stupid. Zenit is the only one club in our CL group who really deserved points :D :D :D (Again, previously we were showing a great football and we couldn't take points, but now we are tired of being respected losers & we're just taking what we didn't take before)
Gotta agree with it, well said, we are the only team in the Champions League that constantly plays "sexy" football, we'd rather play a draw playing great football than win with a scrappy performance and one shot on goal...

Again, another very unlucky match today with Amkar, the temperature was minus 5 degrees, snowing all the time and it was a fockin' plastic pitch so the snow wasn't melting... :o

Rubin lost 1-3 at home to Terek,these bloody teams .... :o

Anyways, the result of the day is Lokomotiv beating Spartak Moscow, with which they did a great favour to Zenit, a huge thank you to them, but eitherway we can't go above Dinamo (they won today 2-0) , so it will be UEFA Cup for us next year, I say it now, mark my words, we'll qualify ;)

[mirka]

...but eitherway we can't go above Dinamo (they won today 2-0)...

The greatest disappointment of the year: no Champions League next season :(
(An opportunity to take the first Europa League's Cup?.. :D)

[drac78]

Sure it is :mad:
We were playing a superb football, but what have we got after three matches?.. - Only 1 f#@kin' point!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

We didn't deserve?!! That's stupid. Zenit is the only one club in our CL group who really deserved points :D :D :D (Again, previously we were showing a great football and we couldn't take points, but now we are tired of being respected losers & we're just taking what we didn't take before)

Yea, I agree you definitely deserved more from the other games, it's just funny that you play great football against Juventus and Real Madrid but you can't againt BATE :p

Anyway, just saw that Advocaat agreed to stay one more year, apparently he wants to reduce his squad from 25 to 20 players.. prepare to have your team even more tired next season then:rolleyes:

btw, whatever happened to Anton Sosnin? He's such a legend in FM:cool:

[mirka]

...it's just funny that you play great football against Juventus and Real Madrid but you can't againt BATE :p

You just underappreciate BATE; no matter they don't have any european titles yet (I'm sure, it's just a question of time) and this CL became first for them - it is really a nice club with the young, much talanted and ambitious coach & young fast team. They are unpredictable and that's why they are even more dangerous than, for ex., Real Madrid. I'm sure, they can cause troubles to any team in Champions League.
What about us, we've lost too many points in first 3 matches and that became the reason for Advocaat to change tactics.

apparently he wants to reduce his squad from 25 to 20 players.. prepare to have your team even more tired next season then:rolleyes:

Who said that? Haven't heard anything about it.
(At least, I'm sure Advocaat is not a stupid man at all to say such things :p)

[theworm2345]

What has been happening with Isaac Okoronkwo of FC Moscow? He was their player of the season and then he must have been hurt or something, but he came back 2 matches ago and then didnt play last match. :confused:

[mirka]

What has been happening with Isaac Okoronkwo of FC Moscow? He was their player of the season and then he must have been hurt or something, but he came back 2 matches ago and then didnt play last match. :confused:

No, he's not injuried. That was a coach's decision to place him on a bench.

btw, whatever happened to Anton Sosnin? He's such a legend in FM :cool:

He's only 18 years: Anton is a major player of our youth squad

[drac78]

You just underappreciate BATE; no matter they don't have any european titles yet (I'm sure, it's just a question of time) and this CL became first for them - it is really a nice club with the young, much talanted and ambitious coach & young fast team. They are unpredictable and that's why they are even more dangerous than, for ex., Real Madrid. I'm sure, they can cause troubles to any team in Champions League.
What about us, we've lost too many points in first 3 matches and that became the reason for Advocaat to change tactics.



Who said that? Haven't heard anything about it.
(At least, I'm sure Advocaat is not a stupid man at all to say such things :p)

yea I watched all their Champions League games so far, even the game against Anderlecht and they have some pretty good players but I'm afraid they're gonna lose more than half of their players next season because of their success in Europe...I wouldn't mind some of their players joining CSKA next season tbh :p

It was in the uefa.com article : "We want to refresh the team," said Advocaat. "We were successful with this group of players but now some will leave and some will arrive. I want to reduce the squad from 24 or 25 to 20 next year." Off the pitch, Advocaat is to have a new assistant alongside him on the bench next term to replace Cornelius Pot, who is leaving the club to be closer to his family. "Bert van Lingen will most likely be my new assistant," he added. "He helped me when I coached the Netherlands and at Rangers [FC] as well."

Arshavin is probably part of the group of players leaving..he really looked unmotivated in recent games...


He's only 18 years: Anton is a major player of our youth squad

Any chance he becomes your "Dzagoev" next season? :p

Meanwhile, we beat FK Moskva 4-1 with Vagner Love scoring 4 goals :cool::cool::cool::cool:

[mirka]

It was in the uefa.com article : "We want to refresh the team," said Advocaat. "We were successful with this group of players but now some will leave and some will arrive. I want to reduce the squad from 24 or 25 to 20 next year."

Actually, now we have about 15 really playing footballers, the others have been seating on the bench during the whole season. So it would be much better to have 20 players who are all would be great, then to have 15 great players and 10 ordinary :D
Btw, this also may be a chance for our youth squad players to get to the main team

Arshavin is probably part of the group of players leaving..he really looked unmotivated in recent games...

He leaves. 100%.

Meanwhile, we beat FK Moskva 4-1 with Vagner Love scoring 4 goals :cool::cool::cool::cool:

The third poker of the weekend :D
Vagner is really a great player and he proves it in every single game. Hope he'll stay at CSKA for the next season :rolleyes:

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Так, Зенит ставил задачу 3 КУЕФА за 10 лет. Про ЛЧ ничего не говорилось )
Плюсы: Лаудруп из дерева изъ..бнулся сделать комбинационную команду. Не хватает только исполнительского мастерства. Но его докупят зимой. Говорят (с), что СМ покинут 10 человек зимой (из них трое - арендованные Химками). Глядя на деревяннность многих - верю.
Ката Диаз из Хетафе - считайте у нас.
Вроде как и Каладзе должен быть.
Но как минимум будет дорогой забивной нап (10-15 мил. евро), центр. защитник, и опорник (Радо играет отлично, но одного отбора мало - будут искать опорника/центр. полузащитника склонного к обороне с хорошим пасом). Этот опорник будет играть либо в паре с Радо, либо что-то придумают. Это по инсайдам.
Но лично я уверен, что обязательно купят хорошего левого латераля, так как Фати неплохо смотрится центральным дефом (для крайнего ему не хватает скорости и техники), а Родригес - это что-то с чем-то. Делать же ставку на Иванова или Кудряшова смешно, если рассчитывать на достойное место.

Кстати, было бы интересно посмотреть на тройку в Тоттенхеме Павло - Аршава - Вагнер Лав.
Если ещё учесть, что под ними Модрич играет, то это было бы нечто...

[FC Spartak Moscow]

You just underappreciate BATE; no matter they don't have any european titles yet (I'm sure, it's just a question of time) and this CL became first for them - it is really a nice club with the young, much talanted and ambitious coach & young fast team. They are unpredictable and that's why they are even more dangerous than, for ex., Real Madrid. I'm sure, they can cause troubles to any team in Champions League.


Мирка, ну ты серьёзно про титулы Батэ в будущем ? Для сравнения даже Шахтёр, вбухивающий десятки миллионов на игроков и на юношескую академию является статистом в ЛЧ. Что уж говорить про Батэ.
Таких было много: Артмедия (потрепавшая Порту, Интер и других), Копенгаген, сделавший МЮ, а уж про этот год (с Анортосисом, Ольборгом и т.д.) я вообще не говорю. Поэтому лучше искать не силу Батэ, а моменты, в которых прокололся Зенит...

[xkingsfanx]

if Zenit can beat Madrid and they end up making it out of the group stage of CL how do you guys think that is going to affect Arshavin's situation? think he would stick around till the summer? its funny that Madrid want him yet he could possibly knock them out of the CL

[mirka]

Мирка, ну ты серьёзно про титулы Батэ в будущем ? Для сравнения даже Шахтёр, вбухивающий десятки миллионов на игроков и на юношескую академию является статистом в ЛЧ. Что уж говорить про Батэ.
Таких было много: Артмедия (потрепавшая Порту, Интер и других), Копенгаген, сделавший МЮ, а уж про этот год (с Анортосисом, Ольборгом и т.д.) я вообще не говорю. Поэтому лучше искать не силу Батэ, а моменты, в которых прокололся Зенит...

А я разве что-то написала про ЛЧ?.. :p
Вот Кубок УЕФА, думаю, белорусы могли бы взять через пару лет... если клуб продолжит прогрессировать.
Моё мнение не изменится :), БАТЭ - это перспективный клуб. У них очень классная - во главе с главным тренером - команда и если бы они попали в более слабую группу, 85% - вышли бы в плей-офф. Мощная линия атаки + высокая скорость игроков + неплохой процент реализации голевых моментов - всё это помогло им в первом же тайме вести 2:0 в матче с одним из сильнейших клубов Европы; а была бы у них защита чуть получше, может, смогли бы тогда у Ювентуса отобрать и все 3 очка... В принципе, при грамотном подходе, ничего не мешает им побороться за очки и в домашнем матче с Реалом в ближайшем туре ;)

if Zenit can beat Madrid and they end up making it out of the group stage of CL how do you guys think that is going to affect Arshavin's situation? think he would stick around till the summer? its funny that Madrid want him yet he could possibly knock them out of the CL

Arshavin said he won't and he wouldn't play for Zenit next season. I think, club management should finally realise that they can't keep him down forever & they should let him go.

[McViktor]

А я разве что-то написала про ЛЧ?.. :p
Вот Кубок УЕФА, думаю, белорусы могли бы взять через пару лет... если клуб продолжит прогрессировать.
Моё мнение не изменится :), БАТЭ - это перспективный клуб. У них очень классная - во главе с главным тренером - команда и если бы они попали в более слабую группу, 85% - вышли бы в плей-офф. Мощная линия атаки + высокая скорость игроков + неплохой процент реализации голевых моментов - всё это помогло им в первом же тайме вести 2:0 в матче с одним из сильнейших клубов Европы; а была бы у них защита чуть получше, может, смогли бы тогда у Ювентуса отобрать и все 3 очка... В принципе, при грамотном подходе, ничего не мешает им побороться за очки и в домашнем матче с Реалом в ближайшем туре ;)

Разрешите не согласится. БАТЭ - типичная команда-выскочка, может удачно сыграть два-три матча (в основном из-за недооценки соперника) , ну у них нет ни инфраструктуры, ни игроков европейского уровня и если команды будут выходить на матч с ними "нормально" мотивированные, то им ничего не светит.
Вот в матче с Реалом это было видно, Касильяс мог бы фоткатся с болельщиками весь матч, БАТЭ всё равно не забило бы.
Но понимаю романтику этого всего и поддерживаю её. :p

if Zenit can beat Madrid and they end up making it out of the group stage of CL how do you guys think that is going to affect Arshavin's situation? think he would stick around till the summer? its funny that Madrid want him yet he could possibly knock them out of the CL
The funny thing is that, well, it's only my imagination maybe, but the better will Andrey play against them, the more they will want him. So overlooking the fact he's not really shit-hot in the RPL recently, well, basically he does nothing, he is maybe collecting enough energy to show Real why they should buy him...

Apart from this he's getting more and more hated amongst the Zenit fans (it's not that hate, it's that hate) because of his latest interviews. He seems to relish every opportunity when he can tell something about the Zenit board, and all his interviews have in general this "I'm-Arshavin-who's-more" motive. Maybe it's only the interviewers (like the son of a crippled hippopotamus and a Galapagos tortoise - Boris Levin from Sport-Express) making up things he didn't say, but his latest interview was a tv one, when he can't deny his words.

Arshavin leaves this winter, that's for sure for me. if he doesn't , he will boycott the spring or something, maybe go on a hunger strike or immigrate to Barcelona to work as a hotel servant...
He can do everything apart from playing for Zenit, therefore he isn't interesting me anymore , even though he's on my sig (but that's mostly for what he has done, not what he is doing now).

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Anyways, as for the situation now, we have two very interesting matches on the schedule for today, Zenit-Dinamo and CSKA-Rubin (pity that the latest will be broadcasted, to be honest I expect a snoozefest because both teams have nothing to play for now, they have secured the second and the first place, respectively).
On the other hand, Zenit still has something to play for and has to win, has if we want to be playing some European competition next season.
Spartak are playing in Vladivostok, in middle November it is not the best thing you want to do so I really expect them to lose points, furthermore, this is a do or die match for Luch, if they want to stay in the RPL, they have to win, otherwise...
Another very good match from our perspective, Tom-Amkar. The temperature in Tomsk is well below zero nowadays, they have a shitty pitch (for reasons as obvious as is Cristina Ronaldo's sexual orientation :D) and hopefully it'll snow, just to add that necessary piece of puzzle into the frame...

[drac78]

We're showing Rubin how to play football, looking at the stats you'd think we're playing against Luch or something :cool: come on viktor, have you ever seen a game with CSKA being a snoozefest? :D

btw, Zenit should really wake up or they may not even be in the Uefa cup next season:eek:

[McViktor]

Come on, the first half of your match was a typical snoozefest, the only excitement was Dzagoev´s disallowed goal...

As for our match, I´m gonna quote lyrics from Thom Yorke :
This is fucked up, fucked up...

[drac78]

tbh, I only started watching from the 25th min but the 2nd half is pretty good.

LOL @ Tekke's goal, pure luck.

edit: so you support Iceland too now? :p

reedit: VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE EEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR

4-0!!!!!!!!!! this is the champions of Russia??!!

[McViktor]

because Dinamo´s goal wasn´t a product of absolute coincidence :rolleyes:
The final result 1-1....

Spartak drew with Luch 2-2, so next week a do or die match with Spartak for fifth spot, the last spot that guarantees Europe...

[mirka]

...next week a do or die match with Spartak for fifth spot, the last spot that guarantees Europe...

Вообще-то, последнее еврокубковое место - 6-е (http://www.sport.ru/ru/news/football/article43175/), но в случае, если мы проиграем Спартаку в след. туре, а Крылья Советов обыграют в домашнем матче Терек, мы можем не попасть даже в шестёрку.

Кстати, Локомотив сегодня, обыграв Москву, по очкам сравнялся со Спартаком, так что если и Зенит, и КС в последних матчах Чемпионата потерпят поражение, Локо тоже имеет шанс попасть в еврозону - в случае победы над Рубином.

[McViktor]

Вообще-то, последнее еврокубковое место - 6-е (http://www.sport.ru/ru/news/football/article43175/), но в случае, если мы проиграем Спартаку в след. туре, а Крылья Советов обыграют в домашнем матче Терек, мы можем не попасть даже в шестёрку.

Кстати, Локомотив сегодня, обыграв Москву, по очкам сравнялся со Спартаком, так что если и Зенит, и КС в последних матчах Чемпионата потерпят поражение, Локо тоже имеет шанс попасть в еврозону - в случае победы над Рубином.
Ой, ну да, ты права, облажался я... :D

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Вообще-то, последнее еврокубковое место - 6-е

Мест-то 6, но одно закреплено за теми, кто выиграет КР в мае следующего года. Так что чемпионатовских еврокубковых мест всего 5.
Хотя что-то мне подсказывает, что не в Луже будет всё решаться, а в Самаре, где КС уверенно раскатают Терек и наши дальнейшие потуги можно будет направить лишь на завоевание кубка...

[mirka]

Чёрт... точно :( Про Кубок забыла :(

Хотя что-то мне подсказывает, что не в Луже будет всё решаться, а в Самаре, где КС уверенно раскатают Терек и наши дальнейшие потуги можно будет направить лишь на завоевание кубка...

Да уж... должно произойти чудо, чтобы доигрывающий сезон Терек переиграл на выезде команду, которая борется за попадание в еврозону...

[McViktor]

Да уж... должно произойти чудо, чтобы доигрывающий сезон Терек переиграл на выезде команду, которая борется за попадание в еврозону...
Можно простимулировать зелеными , если что... :)

[mirka]

Можно простимулировать зелеными , если что... :)

Сам будешь собирать?.. :D
З.Ы. Вообще, о Зените и так слишком много говорят - достаточно вспомнить хотя бы недавний нелепый слух о подкупе Баварии... Поэтому не советую шутить на темы взяток/подкупа - соперники воспримут всерьёз, гарантирую.
Нам никого стимулировать не надо, сами пробьёмся ;) При равном количестве очков с Крыльями на пятом месте всё равно останется именно Зенит, поэтому для нас сейчас самое главное - обыграть Спартак.

[McViktor]

We're Going To Europe, We're Going To Europe !!! :D

[McLaren]

Well deserved. :D Haven't watched the game yet though, waiting for some highlights.

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Витя, Congratulations !
Или по-нашенски, молодцы. Что ж, нынешнему недоСпартаку (составленному из игроков, благополучно сидевших на банке при Титове, Павло, Веллитоне, Быстрове, Торбинском и т.д.) нечего делать против такого Зенита. Спасибо, что хотя бы не развалились совсем, как против Армии в июле... ((( А вымучили из себя подобие кам-бека второго тайма.
Ну ничего, хлам сейчас выкинем, купим Футболистов и тогда наравных потягаемся, без избиения... )))

[McViktor]

Витя, Congratulations !
Или по-нашенски, молодцы. Что ж, нынешнему недоСпартаку (составленному из игроков, благополучно сидевших на банке при Титове, Павло, Веллитоне, Быстрове, Торбинском и т.д.) нечего делать против такого Зенита. Спасибо, что хотя бы не развалились совсем, как против Армии в июле... ((( А вымучили из себя подобие кам-бека второго тайма.
Ну ничего, хлам сейчас выкинем, купим Футболистов и тогда наравных потягаемся, без избиения... )))
Спасибо большое. Если честно, я не ожидал такого развития событий.
Вот что меня поразило в игре спартаковцев - техника некоторых игроков на уровне лиги города Салехарда и просто вопиющий пофигизм защитников . Баженов (его вроде и Суперреактивным Баженом даже зовут) весь матч ни разу не смог обыграть Ломбертса, у которого и травма была и никаких кондиций.
Уже жду трансферное окно, и Зенит и Спартак будут великими "ньюсмейкерами"... :)

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Ньюсмейкерами - да. Но, думается, что Зенит будет главным образом ньюсмейкерном в графе "ушли".
Всё-таки Аршавин уходит, Тимоха тоже серьёзно настроен, да и ПП вроде как лыжи навострил. Но оборону вам надо подтягивать. В Пюйгренье и Губочана не верю. Ломбертс - это да, но травмы + если хорошо проявит себя - быстренько заберут в ТОП-клуб.

[Phenom]

We're Going To Europe, We're Going To Europe !!! :D

without Arshavin by the looks of it:D;)

[FC Spartak Moscow]

О, сколько сразу евроочков добавилось... :d

[McLaren]

Hahahaha. I've just read that embittered Valery Karpin said that every player of Spartak should be put on the transfer list. :D

Igor Semshov has recently signed for Zenit, but I also found the news about Vladimir Bystrov, who is connected with a move to St. Petersburg. Is there any chance that the dynamic Spartak midfielder will join Zenit?

Where's Victor?! He must tell us some big news from the league. :D

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Hahahaha. I've just read that embittered Valery Karpin said that every player of Spartak should be put on the transfer list. :D

Igor Semshov has recently signed for Zenit, but I also found the news about Vladimir Bystrov, who is connected with a move to St. Petersburg. Is there any chance that the dynamic Spartak midfielder will join Zenit?

Where's Victor?! He must tell us some big news from the league. :D


1) About 10 players leave Spartak.
2) Spartak will sign about 6 new players.
3) There is no chance that Vladimir Bystrov will move to Zenit. Zenit's fans hate him. And he has the contract with Spartak.

[McViktor]

Hahahaha. I've just read that embittered Valery Karpin said that every player of Spartak should be put on the transfer list. :D

Igor Semshov has recently signed for Zenit, but I also found the news about Vladimir Bystrov, who is connected with a move to St. Petersburg. Is there any chance that the dynamic Spartak midfielder will join Zenit?

Where's Victor?! He must tell us some big news from the league. :D

1) About 10 players leave Spartak.
2) Spartak will sign about 6 new players.
3) There is no chance that Vladimir Bystrov will move to Zenit. Zenit's fans hate him. And he has the contract with Spartak.

First of all, sorry that I've been too lazy to come here and write something..
Anyway, what FC Spartak Moscow said is absolutely true, Bystrov won't come back because everyone hates him there and his best friend Arshavin is about to leave so there's no reason.

Spartak will be the most active team during the transfer period this winter, to be honest they have no decent players except Pavlenko, Welliton and Pletikosa..
So they'll buy big, mainly Spain-based players players it seems...

As for Zenit, we are about to lose Timoshchuk, who was on a meeting with his "friends" (he denied any transfer and said he was only to visit Munich) Uli Hoeness and co. in Munich recently.
Some Italian clubs want to buy Arshavin, but it's the same old story again and again...
Pogrebnyak also wants to leave, but no one wants him, anyway, lets hope he will leave, his scoring efficiency is quite similar to a half-dead tortoise's...

Semshov is a good buy, probably the cover for Timoshchuk, but since he's Russian he will add us some space to buy a great striker and we don't have to care about his passport, so that's good...

[drac78]

and Gazzaev confirms his departure :( I would've liked Bozovic to come but he's joined FK Moskva...I wonder who'll be our next coach, probably Grant..:(

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Вить, а вот Гена Орлов с тобой не согласен. Он считает, что Семшов - "не уровень притязаний Зенита". А Данни - "не командный игрок". Со вторым согласен... Но вот первое...

[McViktor]

Вить, а вот Гена Орлов с тобой не согласен. Он считает, что Семшов - "не уровень притязаний Зенита". А Данни - "не командный игрок". Со вторым согласен... Но вот первое...
Если честно, пошел Гена Орлов куда-то.. Семшов очень хорошее приобретение, русский (даёт нам возможность купить высококлассного форварда не-россиянина) , забивной.
Люди почему-то думают что купили его вместо Тимощука, но мне кажется Игорь Денисов станет нашим новым Тимощуком а Семшов будет играть на его месте.
Орлов плохой комментатор, "маразматит" , всё ещё верит что можно сделать команду мирового уровня где играют тоглько питерцы.
А Данни кстати намного "командней" играет чем Аршавин...

Уже надоедают все ети нытики типа Аршавина и Тимощука (котороый был в Мюнхене смотреть достопримечательности города :rolleyes:), пусть уходят, да и Погребняка пусть возьмут с собой, игрок уровня сборной Таджикистана.. :o

and Gazzaev confirms his departure :( I would've liked Bozovic to come but he's joined FK Moskva...I wonder who'll be our next coach, probably Grant..:(
I know you won't believe me but it's either Rijkaard or Mancini. The Giner family and the Mancini families are in very warm relations with each other, they visit each other and such things so I wouldn't rule it out.
The Russian press says that Rijkaard is the no.1 candidate, but will he want to come to Moscow after Barcelona? I'm not underestimating CSKA or anything, they are one of the strongest teams now at this particular moment..
Grant seems to me out of question ;)

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Не, ну Риикард - это бред, конечно. Ни за что он не пойдёт. Думаю, возьмут Слуцкого.

Кстати, как считате, какой матч был лучшим в нынешнем чемпионате России ?
Моё мнение - Зенит - Цска. Обе команды были на ходу и показали очень содержательную и яркую игру.

[McViktor]

Не, ну Риикард - это бред, конечно. Ни за что он не пойдёт. Думаю, возьмут Слуцкого.

Кстати, как считате, какой матч был лучшим в нынешнем чемпионате России ?
Моё мнение - Зенит - Цска. Обе команды были на ходу и показали очень содержательную и яркую игру.
Согласен, матч с ЦСКА надо показать всем иностранцам чтобы они начали респектировать нашу лигу. Но результат матча конечно меня не нравится, поэтому скажу Зенит-Луч (8:1) :D

На счет Слуцкого, ИМХО Гинер слишком амбициозен чтобы взял Слуцкого, который до сих пор тренер-загадка для меня (и не только для меня)...

[FC Spartak Moscow]

Да, но при этом и тренер уровня Риикарда в Цска не поедет. Зачем Манчини после всяких скудетт ехать в Россию, если рано или поздно уволят какого-нибудь тренера топ-клуба и Манчини тут как тут. Если же он переходит в Цска, то обрекает себя на то, чтобы как минимум года 3 там пахать. Если раньше не уволят (что ещё хуже)...

[mirka]

It's a luck to face Stuttgart in 1/16 :) They are only 10th in Bundesliga - I don't really think they could be a serious rival for UEFA Cup & UEFA Super Cup holders ;) ...even if we'll lose Arshavin & Tymoshuk :)

[McViktor]

It's a luck to face Stuttgart in 1/16 :) They are only 10th in Bundesliga - I don't really think they could be a serious rival for UEFA Cup & UEFA Super Cup holders ;) ...even if we'll lose Arshavin & Tymoshuk :)
Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but I think they will, and as typical Germans they'll bite us very hard. And all this "Zenit is the favourite" talk isn't really good either, because we succeed usually when we are the underdogs. :o
I start to feel very strong aversion towards Arshavin and Tymoshchuk, like two spoiled children trying to binge the dinner of the whole family (don't know where did this metaphor come from)... basically they're both greedy ***

Anyway, a bit of a round-up for the forumers :
- Zenit signed Igor Semshov from Dynamo Moscow. The secret sources say the deal's worth 6 million dollars, which is an adequate price, shows we're back on earth, bidding normal sums for players...
We're also after Vadim Demidov from Rosenborg (he's a son of an Russian ex-handball player, but has Norwegian citizenship, but it'd be quite easy for him to acquire a second passport because of his roots) and Marko Arnautovic from Twente, if I'm not mistaken...
Also Dmitry Borodin was mentioned as a backup-goalie for Malafeev, who's been very disappointing lately and really deserves some shake-up in the form of some potential threat...
- CSKA signed Tomas Necid from Slavia Prague, successfully, he's been very good for Slavia the autumn so hopefully everything will be fine for him...
- Dynamo are buying young Russian players , as usual, I've never heard anything about them...
- Spartak plans to splash the cash this winter, they've already completed the move of Carioca from brazil for 8-9 million or something...
- Rubin already lost Macbeth Sibaya (free agent, though he was their best player last year imo) and Savo Milosevic(career end), they are on the edge of losing Cristian Ansaldi to barcelona....so far they've bought only Dmitry Michkov from Tomsk, which is no big deal, really ;)

News of the day - we're apparently only hours away from Vincenzo Iaquinta from Juventus :eek: :confused:

[drac78]

Ansaldi to Barcelona :eek: Rubin should be more ambitious in the transfer market, they'll play in the CL groups next season ffs!

What about Arshavin, where's he heading?

[McViktor]

Ansaldi to Barcelona :eek: Rubin should be more ambitious in the transfer market, they'll play in the CL groups next season ffs!

What about Arshavin, where's he heading?

Nobody wants to go to Kazan' , who would want to play in a sect-like club where the manager banned every single contact with journalists, keeps the players shut down the whole year and I could go on and on...
And his friggin' rosary :rolleyes:

Arshavin is a dead person for me, as a player I love him, but as a man he's the perfect man to despise...
As things stand now, no one wants him, Arsenal and Tottenham were rumoured to be interested, but Wenger said he does not want him and Redknapp said that he won't splash any big money for anyone this winter...
So he is desperate now, giving interviews everyday, his idiotic agent Dennis Lachter is also moaning unstoppably....
Hopefully he'll be away soon because he's killing the team's morale :o