Zeh German NT Shrine *Spoilers*

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Current Squad
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8965/aem08gros3.jpg

Sqaud on August 20th
Tor
Robert Enke 24.08.1977 Hannover 96
Tim Wiese 17.12.1981 Werder Bremen


Abwehr
Clemens Fritz 07.12.1980 Werder Bremen
Marcell Jansen 04.11.1985 FC Bayern München
Philipp Lahm 11.11.1983 FC Bayern München
Christoph Metzelder 05.11.1980 Real Madrid
Serdar Tasci 24.04.1987 VfB Stuttgart
Heiko Westermann 14.08.1983 FC Schalke 04

Mittelfeld
Thomas Hitzlsperger 05.04.1982 VfB Stuttgart
Marko Marin 13.03.1989 Borussia Mönchengladbach
Lukas Podolski 04.06.1985 FC Bayern München
Simon Rolfes 21.01.1982 Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Bastian Schweinsteiger 01.08.1984 FC Bayern München
Piotr Trochowski 22.03.1984 Hamburger SV

Angriff
Mario Gomez 10.07.1985 VfB Stuttgart
Patrick Helmes 01.03.1984 Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Miroslav Klose 09.06.1978 FC Bayern München
Kevin Kuranyi 02.03.1982 FC Schalke 04



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Legendary Skippers:

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Friedrich "Fritz" Walter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Walter)

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Uwe Seeler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Seeler)

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Franz Anton Beckenbauer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Beckenbauer)

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Lothar Herbert Matthäus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_Matth%C3%A4us)


Recent Fixtures

DD.MM.JJJJ Time CET
02.09.2006 20:30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - Ireland 1:0
06.09.2006 20:30 Uhr EM-Qualification: San Marino - Deutschland 0:13
11.10.2006 20:30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Slowakia - Deutschland 1:4
15.11.2006 20.30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Cyprys - Deutschland 1:1
24.03.2007 20.45 Uhr EM-Qualification: Czech Rep. - Deutschland 1:2
28.03.2007 20.00 Uhr Friendly: Deutschland - Denmark 0:1
02.06.2007 19.00 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - San Marino 6:0
06.06.2007 20.30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - Slowakia 2:1
22.08.2007 ??.?? Uhr Friendly: England - Deutschland 1:2
08.09.2007 20.30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Wales - Deutschland 0:2
12.09.2007 20.30 Uhr Friendly: Deutschland - Romania 3:1
13.10.2007 ??.?? Uhr EM-Qualification: Ireland - Deutschland 0:0
17.10.2007 20.45 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - Czech Republic 0:3
17.11.2007 20.00 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - Cyprus 4:0
21.11.2007 20.30 Uhr EM-Qualification: Deutschland - Wales 0:0
06.02.2008 ??.?? Uhr Friendly: Austria - Deutschland 0:3
26.03.2008 ??.?? Uhr Friendly: Switzerland - Deutschland 0:4
27.05.2008 Friendly: Deutschland - Weißrussland 2:2
31.05.2008 Friendly: Deutschland - Serbien 2:1
08.06.2008 20.45 Uhr Euro: Deutschland - Polen 2:0
12.06.2008 18.00 Uhr Euro: Kroatien - Deutschland 2:1
16.06.2008 20.45 Uhr Euro: Österreich - Deutschland 0:1
19.06.2008 20:45 Euro 1/4 final Portugal - Deutschland 2:3
25.06.2008 20:45 Euro 1/2 final Deutschland - Türkei 3:2
29.06.2008 20:45 Euro Final Deutschland - Spanien 0:1
20.08.2008 Deutschland - Belgien 2:0
06.09.2008 Liechtenstein - Deutschland 0:6
10.09.2008 Finnland - Deutschland 3:3
11.10.2008 Deutschland - Russland 2:1
14.10.2008 Deutschland - Wales 1:0
19.11.2008 Deutschland - England
11.02.2009 Deutschland - Norwegen 0:1
28.03.2009 Deutschland - Liechtenstein 4:0
01.04.2009 Wales - Deutschland 0:2
19.08.2009 Aserbaidschan - Deutschland 0:4
09.09.2009 Deutschland - Aserbaidschan 2:0
10.10.2009 Russland - Deutschland 0:1
14.10.2009 Deutschland - Finnland 1:1

News:

*DFB turns down Nike offer, sticks with Adidas (http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6874205,00.html)
Adidas pays 20 Million Euro/year (previous 11M) from now and 25 Million Euro/year from 2011 on.
Nike offered 62.5 M from 2008 on.

*U17 finished 3rd at World Cup in Korea / Toni Kroos named player of the tournament

* 31.000 Fans visiting training in Frankfurt. (18.Nov.2007)

* Runner up at Euro 2008 / third place on new fifa ranking

* U 19 wins Euro 2008

* U 17 wins Euro 2009 :D

[varun]

Jens Lehmann # 1 :cool:

any team of his has my respect.........lets hope none of the arsenal fans come here :o

[sweed]

good thread macro :) no more kahn though :(

[jr!]

this is awesome, thanks for this!

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Squad for the game against the Czech Republik:

Goal: Robert Enke (Hannover 96), Timo Hildebrand (VfB Stuttgart), Jens Lehmann (Arsenal London)

Defence: Gonzalo Castro (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Manuel Friedrich (FSV Mainz 05), Marcell Jansen (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Philipp Lahm (FC Bayern München), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), Christoph Metzelder (Borussia Dortmund)

Midfield: Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea London), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Roberto Hilbert (VfB Stuttgart), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Bernd Schneider (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (FC Bayern München), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV)

Offence: Stefan Kießling (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Kevin Kuranyi (FC Schalke 04), Lukas Podolski (FC Bayern München), Jan Schlaudraff (Alemannia Aachen)


Possible Formation:

-----------------Lehmann----------------------
Jansen--Mertesacker-Metzelder (Friedrich)--Lahm
----------------------Frings-------------------
Schneider-Hitzlsperger-Ballack-Schweinsteiger
---------------Podolski-------------------------

[sweed]

no klose?

[macro]

no klose?

he's been given a rest due to his back injury and the fact hes a bit out of form,
he mist a few real sitters recently.


here are some news about the Nike vs. Adidas dispute

Adidas to seek arbitration in dispute with federation



FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) - Adidas is seeking arbitration in its contract dispute with the German soccer federation over the official supplier of the national soccer team, which received a lucrative offer from Nike.

Adidas contends a previous agreement was effectively extended in August 2006 until at least 2014. The DFB argues the deal ends in 2011.

Adidas said in a statement Thursday that the sporting goods company was taking the matter to arbitration "in order to achieve an objective decision in a timely manner."

German news reports earlier this week said Adidas doubled its sponsorship offer to US$29 million a year. The DFB acknowledged a new offer but has not given details.

Nike offered $660 for an eight-year deal, plus $132 million in other benefits.

Nike invited a DFB delegation to visit its headquarters in Beaverton, Ore., according to German news reports.


i think the dfb should grab the 500 million and stick the money into the youth system, if possible. But they should definitely go back to adidas after the deal ended. :D

[sweed]

lol they should take the money and run! it would be weird seeing the kit in nike but as long as they go back to it.

[Sataris]

take the money and run is the right idea

it would very strange seeing the NT decked out in anything but adidas

[mambo]

he's been given a rest due to his back injury and the fact hes a bit out of form,
he mist a few real sitters recently.



I think he has 2 yellow cards or something, so hes banned for the czech-match.

[jr!]

no way, Germany should never wear Nike, it's just not right. I don't say that just to Nike bash, I wear both Nike & Adidas when I play.

[dittsche]

Squad for the friendly against Denmark on wednesday:

Enke (Hannover 96)
Hildebrandt (VfB Stuttgart)

Castro (Bayer Leverkusen)
M.Friedrich (Mainz 05)
Madlung (VfL Wolfsburg)
Jansen (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Metzelder (Borussia Dortmund)
Schulz (Werder Bremen)
Fritz (Werder Bremen)

Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen)
Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart)
Trochowski ( Hamburger SV)
Hilbert (VfB Stuttgart)
Freier (Bayer Leverkusen)

Kuranyi (Schalke 04)
Schlaudraff (Alemannia Aachen)
Helmes (FC Köln)
Kießling (Bayer Leverkusen)


Possible Line-up:

Enke
Castro-M.Friedrich-Madlung-Jansen
Rolfes
Fritz-Hitzlsperger
Trochowski
Kuranyi-Schlaudraff

[Sataris]

Jansen ftw!

[dittsche]

Jansen ftw!
yes, looks like you got him next season ;)

[mambo]

You reckon your team goes down ?
Have a little hope mate, nothing is over yet ;)

[PappinAce]

Did anybody read about Denmark taking offense to Germany's starting line-up? They think it's disrespectful to the Danes for the Germans not playing their strongest.

Well, cry me a river. Players need a rest, and youths need to develop.

[dittsche]

You reckon your team goes down ?
Have a little hope mate, nothing is over yet ;)
I still have hope, its all very close, but we need to start soring and winning to have a chance. hopefully olli neuville will save us :D

concerning jansen I think he'll leave us anyway, very sad, but understandable. I'm even more sad that kluge goes, thank you don jupp :(

[Sataris]

Did anybody read about Denmark taking offense to Germany's starting line-up? They think it's disrespectful to the Danes for the Germans not playing their strongest.

Well, cry me a river. Players need a rest, and youths need to develop.

ROFL

there was a thead here somewhere on something exactly like it

here it is!!

http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59777

Heres my opinion coz i cant be arsed typing it again

i personally found what the San Marino players did was very unsportsmanlike

"No you cant take the penalty coz your the gk and its embarrasing for us"

"No you cant sub on your best player coz he'll destroy us and its embarrasing"

"No your not allowed to take shots outside the box, coz you might score and embarrass us"

and then theres the otherside of the coin

"No you cant rest your best player because thats disrespecting us"

"No you cant sub on your weaker players because thats disrespecting us"

"No you cant give us a goal because thats disrespecting us"

ITS SPORT FFS

I was playing in a match where we were losing 6-0 at halftime
(with 8 players btw)

and the other team just sort of sat back and passed the ball around
with the occasional shot on goal

I went up to one of their strikers and asked what was going on
and he said they didnt want to embarrass us so they were just playing it around

I got offended,

"You mean your not even trying!!"

I dont want a team to feel sorry for us and then go easy on us

told their striker to get their attack going

they got their attack going and won 14-0

because to not give it your all is the most unsportsmanlike thing you can do
It disrespects the fans
It disrespects the opposition
and it disrespects the game

http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=522953&postcount=44

[Bruun]

A bit late, but still:

Denmark pwned you guys pretty hard, huh? Not a big deal, but still nice to win over you guys. Was that our first match since the final in 92? If so, then you sausage eating bastards have a complex :cool: ;)

PS: Macro - is there a Frankfurt thread somewhere? I'm in such a good mood, I need to calm myself down. The only thing that really helps, is a nice big picture of my beloved friend Michael Thürk :D

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haha you guys thought you will get to play the first team, muhahahaha.
come on !?!?! :p our boys can't be bothered to play a friendly against any amateur pub team that comes along.

[ugh]

I was at the DUisburg stadium for the match against Denmark. I don`t think they "pwned" the German NT at all.
There were mostly people playing who had their first ever NT match and it was a nice test for all thos players.
Enke and Helmes for example really proved to be up for something great in the future :)

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The next games are coming nearer so Loew announced the Squad for the two home games against San Marino (June 2nd) and Slovakia (June 6th).

Goal: Timo Hildebrand (VfB Stuttgart), Jens Lehmann (FC Arsenal)

Defence: Gonzalo Castro (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Manuel Friedrich (FSV Mainz 05), Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), Marcell Jansen (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), Christoph Metzelder (Borussia Dortmund)

Midfield: Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Roberto Hilbert (VfB Stuttgart), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Simon Rolfes (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Jan Schlaudraff (Alemannia Aachen), Bernd Schneider (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV)

Attack: Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Patrick Helmes (1. FC Köln), Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen), Kevin Kuranyi (FC Schalke 04)


Gonzalo Castro, Roberto Hilbert, Patrick Helmes and Simon Rolfes stayed in the squad from the Denmark game.
With Helmes and Gomez upfront I'm afraid San Marino have to prepare for an other heavy defeat.

Arne Friedrich, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Lukas Podolski, Tim Borowski, Oliver Neuville, Gerald Asamoah, Mike Hanke and David Odonkor are out injured.

edit:
Does anyone know what happend to Enke ?

[Sataris]

This time when their losing 12-0 will they let lehmann take his fucking penalty?

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naah, i see him put in a last minute header. :D


I stumbled over this odd story again that we play England on 22. of August.
The odd thing is that only we keep announcing the game.

1. time back in December 2006, Loew disclosed we'll play England at Wembley
but the FA said they are not in the position to anounce anything (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6169287.stm).

Now I read again that Bierhoff announced (http://access.fifa.com/en/article/0,4151,134154,00.html) the Game on March 22nd.
This time the FA won't even disclaim it nor do they have the fixture in their calendar.
Looks like Bierhoff and his fellows are very keen to play England but England is a bit shy or afraid, i dunno. ;)

[Sataris]

Of course their afraid

No Beckham means no england win

simple :)

[sweed]

Deutschland - San Marino in about a week. any news on lineups/call ups?

[ugh]

Deutschland - San Marino in about a week. any news on lineups/call ups?

No Ballack, no Schweinsteiger because of their injuries.
Helmes has been nominated, Klose as well....haven`t heard anything else.

[jr!]

The friendly against England in the "Dietmar Hamann Memorial Stadium" aka-Wembley will be August 22nd, as finally confirmed by the English FA.
:p

[mambo]

I read somewhere that this is our new jersey.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5233/image4phptw3.jpg

[sweed]

I read somewhere that this is our new jersey.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5233/image4phptw3.jpg
looks like scheisse. i like our world cup ones

[burke]

Looks like we playing you boys on the 22nd August at Wembley

Come On England!!!!

[dittsche]

I read somewhere that this is our new jersey.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5233/image4phptw3.jpg
yeah i've seen this too. UGLY

lookig forward to the england-game at wembley. will be in the usa then, hope I'll be able to watch it...

[macro]

The friendly against England in the "Dietmar Hamann Memorial Stadium" aka-Wembley will be August 22nd, as finally confirmed by the English FA.
:p

:D thats great news, should be a good game, too bad there will be no penalty shootout.

I read somewhere that this is our new jersey.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5233/image4phptw3.jpg

Oh no !!!! that can't be true !!! if this is it I hope Nike take over soon. ;)

[jr!]

there's only so much you can do with a white jersey I'm thinking, as long as it's not back to that odd stripe thing from the early '90's.

[Sataris]

what's wrong with the current (WC) jersey?

wtf is up with adidas?

first this abortion of a jersey for the NT

and then they (don't want to bring bayern into EVERY thread, ... just most :p)

and then they give bayern a rugby jersey

/rant

[mambo]

Looks like we playing you boys on the 22nd August at Wembley

Come On England!!!!

I cant wait for this , this will be so much fun :D

[Sataris]

I cant wait for this , this will be so much fun :D

better be caps!

[macro]

I demand a 1:5 humiliation and the new England Manager fired in the press conference right after the game. Mc Larren obviously wont be there anymore when we play them.

[sweed]

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Well 2-1 victory. 5 points ahead in our group. i thought we played well today, especially our full-backs. jansen looks a beast :eek: we did what we had to do to get the points. nothing says german football like efficiency :) your thoughts? i heard klose was MotM which i dont think is a good choice b/c i thought it could have gone to either Jansen or Lahm. Kuranyi played a good game as well.

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Well 2-1 victory. 5 points ahead in our group. i thought we played well today, especially our full-backs. jansen looks a beast :eek: we did what we had to do to get the points. nothing says german football like efficiency :) your thoughts? i heard klose was MotM which i dont think is a good choice b/c i thought it could have gone to either Jansen or Lahm. Kuranyi played a good game as well.


ya, right, wasn't a football fest but we did the job and are almost there.
Jansen was the best player on the pitch, no doubt.
Germany got the most points of all teams and managed to compensate the loss of 8 players (4 starters), which looks really good for the upcoming euro.

Nice goal by Metzelder, Real fans will be delighted. :D

Too bad Gomez had to play lone striker, with Kuranyi and Gomez upfront we surly would have scored the 3. one.
Respect to Loew for reanimating Klose, not that he played a great game or deserved the MotM title but he was playing football again.

~ 10 weeks till the England game, I'm counting the days. :D

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Germany 4th in FIFA Ranking


We just climbed over Argentina and are now only 17 points
behind 3rd placed Brazil !!! :D
read more (http://de.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html)

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UEFA European Under-19 Championship (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/under19/index.html)

Our boys said they want to win it all and it looks like they were serious.
We won 3:2 against Russia and facing France next, Serbia is our third opponent.
Will be a hard way to win the damn thing but i have a lot of faith in the boys. :D

[Sataris]

as long as mambo doesn't go on injuring all our players :mad: ;)

I don't see why they can't win the damn thing :)

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Wow, crazy game against Serbia.
we had some really good moves in that game and it's def. worth watching.
Next one is against Greece which came out 2. of their group.
the other semi is france - spain a real classic.

Me thinks we have a good chance of winning the damn thing.

[mambo]

Strange thing with Morinho not nominating Ballack for the upcoming 6 CL games.
Is this already Ballacks end in London ?0o
And i think Tim Wiese placed a good shot in his own knee with the critics about his non-nomination and the nomination of Neuer and Hildebrandt. That way he will never make it in the national team, doesnt matter how many balls he catches :rolleyes:

[sweed]

Ballack situation is really weird...

[Sataris]

I think he's getting an ankle operation and he wouldn't be able to participate anyway, so they gave his spot to someone who would be able to play

[macro]

Apparently they are still pissed off that he got that ankle operation in Germay without permission and missed out the season finale.
Anyway, he will be fine, maybe at Real ?

[Sataris]

Lahm hurt his knee at training camp in Cologne

*looks at mambo* ;)

wonder who'll get called up...

[mambo]

I guess Rolfes gets the defensive Midfield if Lahm cant do it :(

[jr!]

is that where they were using Lahm, as the defensive mid?
I guess with both Frings & Kehl out....

[sweed]

is that where they were using Lahm, as the defensive mid?
I guess with both Frings & Kehl out....

yep, he played there vs. England

[Sataris]

yep, he played there vs. England

and now he's injured :mad:

we'll still win Euro though :cool: :D

[mambo]

Looks like most of the people dont like our new home kit, but i do :o

v/m74WViYS1tg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2197/76634200ds7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5755/76634215cm8.jpg

[sweed]

i think it'll take some getting used to. there might be a bit too much black on the front but it looks solid.

[burke]

and now he's injured :mad:

we'll still win Euro though :cool: :D


haha sure

[mambo]

haha sure

Hehe let me refer to this reply (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=788311&postcount=31), high five mate ill rep you for being so brave :p

[Sataris]

I'm still not sure about the jersey...

wtf is going on at adidas?

*glares at mambo* :mad:

:p

[burke]

Hehe let me refer to this reply (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=788311&postcount=31), high five mate ill rep you for being so brave :p

thanks, just remember it was a meaningless friendly, i dnt have to remind you of 1.9.01

[Sataris]

thanks, just remember it was a meaningless friendly, i dnt have to remind you of 1.9.01

there's been a Euro

and 2 WC's since then

so you can continue to remind us of it for the next 20 years if it makes you feel better

[mambo]

thanks, just remember it was a meaningless friendly, i dnt have to remind you of 1.9.01

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:p

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In England we lost a really good rival,
beat them used to be real fun, now we pwn them at home with our B-Team. :sad:
Nowadays Italy seems to be our new Rival, which is totally boring,
we never even been in war with them, lots of them live here and we get along rather good. :sad. :sad:

[Sataris]

In England we lost a really good rival,
beat them used to be real fun, now we pwn them at home with our B-Team. :sad:
Nowadays Italy seems to be our new Rival, which is totally boring,
we never even been in war with them, lots of them live here and we get along rather good. :sad. :sad:

I haven't loled like that in a while :D

*high 5's macro*

well done sir.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Currently we don't have a goalie getting regular first team starts....
Lehman is benched for Almunia and Hildebrand is second to Canizares.
We need Kahn back!

[Sataris]

Currently we don't have a goalie getting regular first team starts....
Lehman is benched for Almunia and Hildebrand is second to Canizares.
We need Kahn back!

Neurer should get the gig imo

(until rensing overthrows him :p)

[mambo]

When are the next fixures ?

[Sataris]

When are the next fixures ?

13.10.2007 08.45 pm cest EC-Qualifier: Ireland - Germany Dublin
17.10.2007 08.45 pm EC-Qualifier: Germany - Czech Republic München
17.11.2007 08.00 pm EC-Qualifier: Germany - Cyprus Hannover
21.11.2007 08.30 pm EC-Qualifier: Germany - Wales Frankfurt
06.02.2008 Austria - Germany Vienna
26.03.2008 Switzerland - Germany

[macro]

When are the next fixures ?


nobody checks my first post :cry: (I'm still updating it :()

Currently we don't have a goalie getting regular first team starts....
Lehman is benched for Almunia and Hildebrand is second to Canizares.
We need Kahn back!

We should give Enke the spot,
he has good chances to be at Bayern next season,
this way everything would be back to normal,
a Bayern keeper in the German goal.

[mambo]

nobody checks my first post :cry: (I'm still updating it :()

Ups :o



We should give Enke the spot,
he has good chances to be at Bayern next season,
this way everything would be back to normal,
a Bayern keeper in the German goal.

Lets hope he will not be transfered to Bayern, that would be the ultimate downfall of Rensing :eek:
That would mean another great talent wasted his best years on the bench in munich.

[Sataris]

Absolutely not

i forbid bayern to buy another goalkeeper to play ahead of rensing

[macro]

just can't imagine Rensing will play CL next season,
if Kahn really retires at the end of the season they, imo, have to bring in a experienced keeper.

[Sataris]

Rensing imo is more than ready for CL football

[sweed]

just can't imagine Rensing will play CL next season,
if Kahn really retires at the end of the season they, imo, have to bring in a experienced keeper.

i think an experienced back up is a luxury that i would like to have but not really a necessity. Rensing to start next year w/possibly Dreher as back up or one of youth guys promoted.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

He played OK against Milan in the first leg in the Champ. League last year didn't he. I wish Germany had something like the Carling Cup were managers could put in the younger/second team players so that we could see how they play and to keep them in good form.

[macro]

I mean it's not like he get no match time at all,
Rensing plays for Bayern II in the 3rd league and earned 42 caps in the last two seasons.
But still, is this enough to play CL ?
Being confronted with Poldi's statement "i need more successive caps to perform",
Rummnigge said in all his smugness and with his closed eyes " Bayern München is no place for experiments."
I think it's very likely that they buy another keeper, and let them battle for the No.1 shirt.

[Sataris]

I mean it's not like he get no match time at all,
Rensing plays for Bayern II in the 3rd league and earned 42 caps in the last two seasons.
But still, is this enough to play CL ?
Being confronted with Poldi's statement "i need more successive caps to perform",
Rummnigge said in all his smugness and with his closed eyes " Bayern München is no place for experiments."
I think it's very likely that they buy another keeper, and let them battle for the No.1 shirt.

I have no doubt that another goalkeeper will be bought for depth

but

I beleive that Rensing will be given the start

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I have no doubt that another goalkeeper will be bought for depth

but

I beleive that Rensing will be given the start

Who would you want to see brought in?

[Sataris]

honestly?

I wouldn't mind Schwarzer

he's an excellent goalkeeper

[sweed]

*****SPOILERS****

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0-0 vs Ireland

First to Qualify for Euro 2008. Well done boys!

[macro]

man, Lehmann was pure class tonight,
Tucholsky still sucks, he really should go back writing books.

[Sataris]

Awesome

I've already got us down as Euro 08 winners :cool:

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Awesome

I've already got us down as Euro 08 winners :cool:

Who doesn't? :D

In other news Der Kaiser has officially pronounced us as the best team in Europe!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=472635&cc=5901

[Sataris]

Who doesn't? :D

England probably has some deluded hope of winning something soon :p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

England probably has some deluded hope of winning something soon :p

Psht. Besides MAYBE the Rugby World Cup?
No.

[Sataris]

Anyone have any thoughts as to what the result of tonight's game will be?

[macro]

1. result will be that Jay-Lo's contract will be extended till 2010. :D
hopefully the 2. result will be that the chosen one is on the score sheet once again.
Last but not least the result will be x.000 satisfied spectators in Munich. :D

[sweed]

1. result will be that Jay-Lo's contract will be extended till 2010. :D
hopefully the 2. result will be that the chosen one is on the score sheet once again.
Last but not least the result will be x.000 satisfied spectators in Munich. :D

1. i wouldnt mind that at all
2. i hope he scores as well
3. München über alles! :D ;)

[macro]

well, I guess we are aiming for second place in our group to avoid a group of death
in the finals. :D

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Well, 3-0...
We already qualified so I guess its okay, but still its like a scar on our record.
And at home too dammit.:(

[Ballack_19]

It was a poor result and the team needs to bounce back asap BUT the Czech's wanted/needed it so much more so its really not a surprise.

[sweed]

well, I guess we are aiming for second place in our group to avoid a group of death
in the finals. :D

well assuming the seedings turn out in our favor...

[macro]

As I understand it, Italy and France have both to qualify and we could drop to pot 2.
Which would be a plus if we get drawn into a group of the hosts.
Preferable into the Austria group. Definitely worth to take the gamble. :D

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I really hope that France and Scotland qualify out of their group.

[Sataris]

Booo!

Booooooo!

oh well

least were not as bad as england

PS: Macro should never

EVER

under any circumstance, make predictions about the NT


EVER!

[germanyfcbarsenal]

This doesn't really have to do with the national team, but it affects it nonetheless.

Klose is coming back for Bayern against Bochum!

[Quazaar]

Anyone else concerned that out number 1 keeper isn't playing club football?

[mambo]

Nope, if it wont be Lehmann/Hildebrand, then its Enke.
We have so many replacements on the Goalie position,
i see at least 5-6 keepers that we could bring in without a loss of quality :cool:
But i dont like Löw`s goalie politics so far, like nominating Neuer to the closer cycle of the nt-team instead of picking someone more experienced like Pröll/Wiese/Weidenfeller/Jentzsch/Miller or maybe even Fromlowitz who already was in his 3rd season before he injured hisself.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I don't care if he's not playing first team football, I like Lehman!
He proved that he's still a great keeper against Ireland, and he's going to get another chance in the Arsenal first team once Almunia cocks up.

[macro]

Right no problems on the goalkeeper position.
Only thing I am concerned about atm is Ballack.
He should be fit by now, i doubt he will brake into the Chelsea side any time soon though.
I hope he makes the move to Real and works himself into the first 11 there.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

He's being stupid though, Bernd Schuster said that Real really want to buy him, but can't afford to pay his current salary. IMO Ballack should take the salary cut and move to somewhere were he can actually get playing time and where he isn't already seen as a failure.

[macro]

yeah greedy bastard he is. lol

But on the other hand Ballack should milk as much money out of chelsea as possible.
Ballack hinted in an interview that it takes him so long to recover cause they made him
train much to hard in rehab.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

yeah greedy bastard he is. lol

But on the other hand Ballack should milk as much money out of chelsea as possible.
Ballack hinted in an interview that it takes him so long to recover cause they made him
train much to hard in rehab.

Bastards.

[sweed]

not that it matters,

but did Herr Lowe release the squad for the next 2 euro qualifier games?

[macro]

Oh yeah he did, Eintracht fans are furious about the call up for Jermaine Jones,
like A. Streit you just can't get into the NT when you are playing in Frankfurt,
it's a joke and a slap in the face for us.
I'm happy for him albeit I am still disappointed about the way he left.
So I'm quiet pissed now and won't post the full list, ;)
nothing exceptional anyway.

[mambo]

I know Jermaine was always injured in Frankfurt,
but he was the best player of the whole S04-squad during the last 2 month
so im real ok with the decision to nominate him.

Actualy it made me a little sad in the last weeks that we didnt tried to get him to replace Vranjes because Jones was so strong. But now he is injured again and misses the nt-week and i guess he wont be back very soon. Well i hope he still makes alot of matches this season even if its for Schalke and not for Frankfurt anymore, because i think he had enough injuries for the next 5 years :o

[macro]

the problem is that he made 20 very good games in the 2005 season and was the best player in the whole Eintracht squad and was never even mentioned for the NT
Streit deserved a call up as well and never got one, instead guys like Odonkor and Trochowski getting even into the first 11.
It's a joke and again a humiliation for us.
Not to mention Pröll...

[mambo]

Yeah its weird somehow with Trochowski, he played pretty weak in the nt-games but we cant ignore that in Hamburg his performance is getting better and better and he still is very young.
I think his nomination is somehow bound to the U21 squad. When the older Boateng became the best U21 player he was nominated for the NT too and i reckon that one of the young guns like Dejagah, Ebert or Grote is moving up also very soon. Looks like some kind of future investment.

Odonkor, ...well we all know he is very limited in many aspects and there are alot better footballers in Germany, but since the WC06 he is part of the team and i guess that wont change for a while.

Pröll of course is a fantastic keeper, but you know the situation :o
Enke, Adler, Wiese, Miller, Schäfer, Neuer, Rost, Jetzsch
...all they are better than Englands Number one hehe :D


I confirm 100% that there wasnt much difference between Jermaine and Albert, but Jones also had the chance to prove his form in international games, i.e. against Chelsea and i think he did a fantastic job there. Streit "just" played Bundesliga.


I wouldnt say its something specific against Eintracht Frankfurt, i would say it simply is the destiny of many players in clubs without international games. Think of Hanke, Schulz, Kringe or Fahrenhorst and so on...

[macro]

I wouldnt say its something specific against Eintracht Frankfurt, i would say its simply the destiny of many players in clubs without international games. Think of Hanke, Schulz, Kringe or Fahrenhorst and so on...

Not to forget Martin Max, freakin 126 goals in 396 first league games,
just one cap for the NT.
Guess we have to live with this shit politics. :(

[DemocritusJr]

I'm not sure if it's the start of something good or something to be afraid of, but this is not the sort of stance he's renowned for:

11-12-2007
Lehmann ready to play second division to keep Euro hopes alive

Germany goalkeeper Jens Lehmann admitted Monday he was ready to leave Arsenal this winter and play for a second division side in order to preserve his place in the national team ahead of Euro 2008.

The 38-year-old made a string of errors for the Premier League side at the start of the season before achilles tendon and elbow injuries saw him lose his place at Arsenal to Spaniard Manuel Almunia.

'The Bundesliga is always attractive and is an option, and maybe the German second division is too,' the 38-year-old told Kicker magazine. 'In any case I want to play at Euro 2008. Playing there has always been my aim.'

German coach Joachim Low has reiterated that he still considers Lehmann as his first choice keeper, but has said that they will have to sit down to discuss things at the end of the year.

'Given what the Germany coach says, I will have to see how things are in December,' said Lehmann, who has not given up hope of regaining his place from Almunia.

'The situation is as it is. It is only important what the manager decides and I am using this phase to train intensively every day. The manager knows I am highly motivated. I would like to play again soon and expect that I will do.

'I would be very surprised if that was not the case.'

BERLIN (AFP) © 2007 AFP

[macro]

OMG a humble Jens, i think that is good stuff, very well done Mr. Wenger,
you made the big baby stop crying.
He wont playing 2. division, Wolfsburg for example has the money and the need.

[mambo]

TSG Hoffenheim :D

[macro]

I've collected some news for you guys


Zwanziger re-elected German boss (http://www.teamtalk.co.za/football/story/0,16368,3033_2826460,00.html)

Germans earn Euro 2008 qualifying bonus of 3.65 million euros (http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/141277.html)

Homepage of the German teamhotel for the Euro (http://www.giardino.ch/index.php?sprache=en)

31.000 visiting training in Frankfurt last Sunday, (I haven't got a ticket :( )

League coaches angry about Loew's suggestion to meet and discuss the latest bad results in the Champions league/UEFA Cup.
(no english link yet)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

You haven't got a ticket to a training session and you're upset?!?!
I haven't ever seen them play besides on TV!!!

Although I am coming back next summer so who knows....

[macro]

I really shouldn't complain i was standing next to Klinsmann and Bierhoff when I was working at the Hotel the NT stayed at the confed cup. :cool:

[Sataris]

so any predictions on who germany will be drawn with?

[sweed]

I really shouldn't complain i was standing next to Klinsmann and Bierhoff when I was working at the Hotel the NT stayed at the confed cup. :cool:

so are you the bell boy? :p

[Sataris]

I really shouldn't complain i was standing next to Klinsmann and Bierhoff when I was working at the Hotel the NT stayed at the confed cup. :cool:

which hotel?

and can i get a free breakfast? :p

[macro]

so are you the bell boy? :p

nothing wrong with being a bell boy, you get a shitload of tip,
but no, was doing the night shift at front desk.

[sweed]

nothing wrong with being a bell boy, you get a shitload of tip,
but no, was doing the night shift at front desk.

i never said there was anything wrong w/it. i just dont know if i can trust you to take my bags up to my room :p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I really shouldn't complain i was standing next to Klinsmann and Bierhoff when I was working at the Hotel the NT stayed at the confed cup. :cool:

I hope you can feel all the hate that I'm directing towards you.

[macro]

No can't feel it, does it help if i tell you I talked to Rehagel on the phone,
he did ensure that everything he might have from the minibar is taken care of by the DFB.
LOL, cheap bastard. :D
Should tell that a Greece fan maybe he can hate better than you. ;)

[ELLADA]

I volunteer:

I hate you. King Otto should be allowed to drink as much as he pleases.

[macro]

No worries, of course the DFB covers all costs of their guests.
Also i suppose that King Otto snore quiet a bit cause his wife had an extra room
next to his. Just to give you some useless information. :o

[germanyfcbarsenal]

No worries, of course the DFB covers all costs of their guests.
Also i suppose that King Otto snore quiet a bit cause his wife had an extra room
next to his. Just to give you some useless information. :o

Maybe they like their privacy... who knows what they're doing in there! :D
And I'll just have to hate you harder if you can't feel it yet.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Just to reiterate: The German National Team is an unstoppable force of destruction, sleek, modern and effective; all the hallmarks of the German Team are here. But since the 2006 WC we have also been playing the beautiful game for the first time in a long while.
We are amazing. :D

Just felt like a little self-worshiping right there.

[macro]

so no news there, we are still the hawtest team on earth. ;D
and the luckiest, everybody wanted Austria, we got them. :D

[germanyfcbarsenal]

so no news there, we are still the hawtest team on earth. ;D
and the luckiest, everybody wanted Austria, we got them. :D

And avoided France, Italy and the Netherlands...not that we couldn't have taken them on anyway. :cool:

[germanyfcbarsenal]

C'mon people, nothing to say? :confused:

[Sataris]

I am beelizibub the first

to go off topic slightly

yes we are pwn

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I am beelizibub the first

to go off topic slightly

yes we are pwn

Neither of those are news, they are facts.

[macro]

Euro Alert


Kicker makes a titel story about the struggling german NT players.
Frings, Fritz, Tasci, Pander are in rehab.
Metzelder, Jansen, Arne Friedrich, Manuel Friedrich, Kuranyi, Gomez are just back in team training.
Ballack, Schneider, Kehl are just fit again and Podolski, Schlaudraff, Schweinsteiger, Borowski, Odonkor, Lehmann have no first team place.

Things dosent look extremely promising indeed but I'm sure we will have a strong team anyway.

[mambo]

***spoilers***
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4971/197ai5.jpg

Oh wow Lehmann is totally off the track!
Looks like the lack of matches left some marks,
the one or other situation looked real bad, horrible mistakes :eek:

[macro]

what the fuck was he doing,
the one that bounced off his chest was terrifying,
Bild's gonna make a meal of it. :rolleyes:

We were so lucky in that game, austria hit the bar three times they were called offside when they wasn't and the Hitzelsberger goal should have been saved.

So, i guess it's a well deserved win with a tiny bit of luck ;) lol

and why ffs are all bayern players out of form ?
I demand explanations !!! :D

[germanyfcbarsenal]

what the fuck was he doing,
the one that bounced off his chest was terrifying,
Bild's gonna make a meal of it. :rolleyes:

We were so lucky in that game, austria hit the bar three times they were called offside when they wasn't and the Hitzelsberger goal should have been saved.

So, i guess it's a well deserved win with a tiny bit of luck ;) lol

and why ffs are all bayern players out of form ?
I demand explanations !!! :D

Because Klinsmann's not in charge yet. ;)

[sweed]

lol macro.

Lehmann needs some action :eek:

[jr!]

and why ffs are all bayern players out of form ?


Unfortunately, Luca Toni looked on form the other day for Italy...

[germanyfcbarsenal]

lol macro.

Lehmann needs some action :eek:

But he's married. ;)

[macro]

Unfortunately, Luca Toni looked on form the other day for Italy...

thats it !!! first bayern ruins our NT now they build up our biggest rivals.
Can't Wurst Uli do something good, just one time ?

[sweed]

thats it !!! first bayern ruins our NT now they build up our biggest rivals.
Can't Wurst Uli do something good, just one time ?

He's given you some Wurst you ungrateful Frankfurter! Be happy! :p

[Ballack_19]

Take a look at the new away shirts. Not a big fan but ill buy it anyway considering it a century shirt.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Take a look at the new away shirts. Not a big fan but ill buy it anyway considering it a century shirt.

Picture?

[mambo]

Picture?


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/636/awayeu9.jpg

[Sataris]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/636/awayeu9.jpg

I am so buying one

can i borrow $150 mambo? :p ;)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Yo quiero.
But I am about $150 short. :(

[sweed]

y yo...

mich auch...

i like the white Euro kits as well :)

[suiseiseki]

Did anyone notice how much of the ball Westermann saw? He has no experience on this level and it showed, even against Austria

By the way, those away jerseys look mighty fine, that is until Adidas prints those ugly numbers on them

[jr!]

I like it too, when are they going on sale?
Would it be cheaper to have somebody buy me one in Deutschland & ship it to me here or buy from an online store?

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I like it too, when are they going on sale?
Would it be cheaper to have somebody buy me one in Deutschland & ship it to me here or buy from an online store?

Probably the former. I might do that as well, but then again I still have the WM jersey.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Bump.

[Sataris]

Bump.

Haven't seen them anywhere :(

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Haven't seen them anywhere :(

Yea, but don't worry, once we win the Euro it'll be real busy here! :cool:

[macro]

I'm a bit anxious about the euro, tbh, lets just pray we pick up some form right before the tournament.

i posted our squad below my 1. 11 would be like that

lehmann

westermann - per - arne - jansen

Rolfes - Ballack - Hitze - Poldi

-------Kiesling - Gomez------- !



Tor: 1 Jens Lehmann (Arsenal London), 12 Timo Hildebrand (FC Valencia), 23 Robert Enke (Hannover 96)

Abwehr: 3 Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), 4 Robert Huth (FC Middlesbrough), 2 Marcell Jansen (Bayern München), 16 Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), 17 Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), 41 Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04)

Mittelfeld: 13 Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), 15 Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), 19 Bernd Schneider (Bayer Leverkusen), 20 Lukas Podolski (Bayern München), 38 Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), 7 Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), 27 Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), 28 Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV)

Angriff: 32 Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), 11 Miroslav Klose (Bayern München), 33 Stefan Kießling (Bayer Leverkusen), 31 Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I'm a bit anxious about the euro, tbh, lets just pray we pick up some form right before the tournament.

i posted our squad below my 1. 11 would be like that

lehmann

westermann - per - arne - jansen

Rolfes - Ballack - Hitze - Poldi

-------Kiesling - Gomez------- !



Tor: 1 Jens Lehmann (Arsenal London), 12 Timo Hildebrand (FC Valencia), 23 Robert Enke (Hannover 96)

Abwehr: 3 Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), 4 Robert Huth (FC Middlesbrough), 2 Marcell Jansen (Bayern München), 16 Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), 17 Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), 41 Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04)

Mittelfeld: 13 Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), 15 Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), 19 Bernd Schneider (Bayer Leverkusen), 20 Lukas Podolski (Bayern München), 38 Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), 7 Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), 27 Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), 28 Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV)

Angriff: 32 Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), 11 Miroslav Klose (Bayern München), 33 Stefan Kießling (Bayer Leverkusen), 31 Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04)

No Adler?
No Frings?!?
And does Westermann really deserve a starting spot ahead of Lahm?

I like how you put Poldi in left mid, last time (against Cyprus) he played there he did very well.

Edit: Here's Poldi tearing it up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=guqW9I3T5Ks

[sweed]

frings is injured isnt he?

and adler should be in.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

frings is injured isnt he?

and adler should be in.

I'm pretty sure that he's resumed training already.

[mambo]

I'm pretty sure that he's resumed training already.


Not just training,
this was on Sunday in Bielefeld
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9900/f22nw7.jpg

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Not just training,
this was on Sunday in Bielefeld
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9900/f22nw7.jpg

Well there you have it, he should be in the squad, probably starting.

[mambo]

It was his first game after months of rehab.
Have a little patience and give him a little time dude ;)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

It was his first game after months of rehab.
Have a little patience and give him a little time dude ;)

I meant starting for the Euro during the summer provided he's fully fit and playing 100%. Don't wanna thrust him in to quickly and have him get injured again! :)

Well, we're back on track!
Good for Gomez, and our Bayern pair got a pair also.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Bump.

[sweed]

Bump.

stop bumping. you might hurt yourself :p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

stop bumping. you might hurt yourself :p

Nuh-uh, I wear my special helmet cause my parents told me to! :o:p:D

[Sataris]

Nuh-uh, I wear my special helmet cause my parents told me to! :o:p:D

you still haven't moved Bayern above arsenal yet :mad:

:p

Special helmet indeed :p:p ;)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

you still haven't moved Bayern above arsenal yet :mad:

:p

Special helmet indeed :p:p ;)

If I could watch Bayern more they would be, otherwise....:(

[mambo]

***spoilers***
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.
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.
.
Jones was fantastic against Barcelona,
Dejagah sank H96 all on his own
and Borowski scored one in world-class style.

That will be tough race to the Euros :eek:

[germanyfcbarsenal]

***spoilers***
.
.
.
.
.
Jones was fantastic against Barcelona,
Dejagah sank H96 all on his own
and Borowski scored one in world-class style.

That will be tough race to the Euros :eek:

Competition brings out the best in people. :cool:
All the better for us if we're spoilt for choice.

[Sataris]

Hope Borowski, keeps playing well

means it'll be good for us next year ;)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Hope Borowski, keeps playing well

means it'll be good for us next year ;)

Hell yea. :cool:

[pkwrigley]

Hope Borowski, keeps playing well

means it'll be good for us next year ;)

I respectfully hope not.

It's bad enough you've gotten Klinsmann.

I don't have anything against Borowski for moving (Klose, on the other hand...) but it'll be hard to see him playing for another club. Especially yours. ;)

[macro]

Germany wins U19 Euro final against Italy
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1080/30398311ob4.jpg

[sportsmen]

Well deserved. You played better than Italy even with 10-man on the pitch.

[sweed]

here's a better pic

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/PJO110072615_1024x768.jpg

[football48]

great pic!

[mambo]

Look who made it into the DFB Team,
Never thought that would still happen after he wasnt invited for such a long time.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/artikel/381779/
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/496/wieseid0.jpg

[sweed]

Enke and Adler made it too. anyone have the full call up list?

[mambo]

Yes, click the link above and scroll down mate ;)
At the moment Adler is injured.

[sweed]

Yes, click the link above and scroll down mate ;)
At the moment Adler is injured.

you are a beacon of light, thanks :p

[macro]

you are a beacon of light, thanks :p

mmmmm bacon :)

[sweed]

mmmmm bacon :)

beacon you frankfurter, beacon!

[germanyfcbarsenal]

No Neuer?
And why does Jansen keep on getting called up when he's utter shite?

[DemocritusJr]

Wiese over Hildebrand? Maybe it is personal. I just hope this is a one off. I have a strong and possibly irrational dislike of Tim Wiese.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Wiese over Hildebrand? Maybe it is personal. I just hope this is a one off. I have a strong and possibly irrational dislike of Tim Wiese.

I just don't think he's NT quality.

[macro]

Judged by his character he most definitely is NT quality. :p
I get a bit anxious when I think about how his confidence get an other boost by that call up . ;)

[mambo]

No Neuer?


Neuer already recovered ? wow that was fast :confused:

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Neuer already recovered ? wow that was fast :confused:

I'm out of the German loop a bit here. :o
What happened to him?

[macro]

got shot in the ankle by a mafia hit man

[germanyfcbarsenal]

got shot in the ankle by a mafia hit man

Don't joke about that, De Rossi's father-in-law just got killed by Mafia hitmen.

No seriously, what happened to him?

[macro]

right, no jokes, jokes are bad

so seriously
Neuer hired to mow the grass at the Tucumcari Municipal Airport decided that his skills with the lawnmower would suffice for a joyride in an airplane. Although he wasen't a certified pilot, or indeed even a student pilot, he managed to taxi the private two-seater to the fueling facility, fill the tanks, and taxi to the runway, where he commenced a takeoff.

That's when their luck ran out.

Fifty meters above the ground, the plane began to wobble, then entered a vertical dive and collided with the grass. Neuer managed to escape from the mangled machine before it was engulfed in flames, but broke an ankle.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

right, no jokes, jokes are bad

so seriously
Neuer hired to mow the grass at the Tucumcari Municipal Airport decided that his skills with the lawnmower would suffice for a joyride in an airplane. Although he wasen't a certified pilot, or indeed even a student pilot, he managed to taxi the private two-seater to the fueling facility, fill the tanks, and taxi to the runway, where he commenced a takeoff.

That's when their luck ran out.

Fifty meters above the ground, the plane began to wobble, then entered a vertical dive and collided with the grass. Neuer managed to escape from the mangled machine before it was engulfed in flames, but broke an ankle.

:D
Lucky him eh? :p

Looks like we have two disinformation machines around here now.

[macro]

possible lineup for tonight

-------------enke----------------
lahm----tasci---westermann----fritz
-------------rolfes--------------------
schweini-------hitzelsperger---------poldi
-----gomez----------------klose

:eek:
tasci has good chances to start before metze, so god will
rolfes plays for frings and hitze for ballack
rest fields itself, so lets go get some waffles

[germanyfcbarsenal]

possible lineup for tonight

-------------enke----------------
lahm----tasci---westermann----fritz
-------------rolfes--------------------
schweini-------hitzelsperger---------poldi
-----gomez----------------klose

:eek:
tasci has good chances to start before metze, so god will
rolfes plays for frings and hitze for ballack
rest fields itself, so lets go get some waffles

I always thought Tasci was Turkish for some reason.

[macro]

he is, he is
afaik we finally had the first turkish german playing a-team footy for us.
about time !!!

[Fuschimuschi]

he is, he is
afaik we finally had the first turkish german playing a-team footy for us.
about time !!!

Don't forget Mustafa Doğan, played in the Confed-Cup against the USA for Germany.

It's a great sign though after the Altintops and Sahin.
Looks like big talents Özil and Toprak decided to play for Germany as well.

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squad for the england game

Tor: Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen, 2 Einsätze), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen, -)

Abwehr: Marvin Compper (1899 Hoffenheim, -), Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC, 63), Andreas Hinkel (Celtic Glasgow, 18), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen, 51, ein Tor), Marcel Schäfer (VfL Wolfsburg, -), Serdar Tasci (VfB Stuttgart, 3), Heiko Westermann (FC Schalke 04, 8, 1)

Mittelfeld: Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart, 43, 6), Jermaine Jones (FC Schalke 04, 2), Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach, 3, 1), Simon Rolfes (Bayer 04 Leverkusen, 16, 1), Bastian Schweinsteiger (FC Bayern München, 61, 17), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV, 17, 1), Tobias Weis (1899 Hoffenheim, -)

Angriff: Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart, 19, 6), Patrick Helmes (Bayer 04 Leverkusen, 8), Miroslav Klose (FC Bayern München, 86, 44), Lukas Podolski (FC Bayern München, 59, 31)

no Lahm(inj.), Frings (out of form;) and Ballack (inj.)

looks great, england will go down like rooney's granny hookers :p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

squad for the england game

Tor: Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen, 2 Einsätze), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen, -)

Abwehr: Marvin Compper (1899 Hoffenheim, -), Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC, 63), Andreas Hinkel (Celtic Glasgow, 18), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen, 51, ein Tor), Marcel Schäfer (VfL Wolfsburg, -), Serdar Tasci (VfB Stuttgart, 3), Heiko Westermann (FC Schalke 04, 8, 1)

Mittelfeld: Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart, 43, 6), Jermaine Jones (FC Schalke 04, 2), Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach, 3, 1), Simon Rolfes (Bayer 04 Leverkusen, 16, 1), Bastian Schweinsteiger (FC Bayern München, 61, 17), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV, 17, 1), Tobias Weis (1899 Hoffenheim, -)

Angriff: Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart, 19, 6), Patrick Helmes (Bayer 04 Leverkusen, 8), Miroslav Klose (FC Bayern München, 86, 44), Lukas Podolski (FC Bayern München, 59, 31)

no Lahm(inj.), Frings (out of form;) and Ballack (inj.)

looks great, england will go down like rooney's granny hookers :p

What I want:
1) Marin to get at least 20 minutes of playing time
2) Some experimentation in the CB positions
3) To kick the English's collective asses

[Übersuperduper]

he is, he is
afaik we finally had the first turkish german playing a-team footy for us.
about time !!!

Ahem...What about the Great Mehmet, Mehmet Scholl? ;)

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sorry to be rude again, but does anybody keep track of your fail count. :p

[Übersuperduper]

sorry to be rude again, but does anybody keep track of your fail count. :p

So Mehmet Scholl with a Turkish father and German mother, wasn't the first Turkish-German playing for the NT? He wasn't a part of the Euro96 winning side?

And if you're going to be rude it's worse for you in the long-term. ;)

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well i figure you don't live in germany, if, you would know that he is as german as me or mambo, maybe even more. His father left the fam. when he was five years old, his mom married a german guy after that....

[Fuschimuschi]

Well, you know he has "Turkish blood" in him...


(yeah I hate that "blood" argument. My brother is adopted, originally from Sri Lanka and yes he is as German as me.)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Oh we all know that in a couple of years Germany will be half Turkish anyways.

well i figure you don't live in germany, if, you would know that he is as german as me or mambo, maybe even more. His father left the fam. when he was five years old, his mom married a german guy after that....

I think you forgot someone. :mad:

:p

But if he had a Turkish father then he is technically half Turkish...
Are you and mambo half something else?

[mambo]

I just don't think he's NT quality.


They say Wiese is going to start vs. England so you officially failed :p

[germanyfcbarsenal]

They say Wiese is going to start vs. England so you officially failed :p

*Sigh* Well when he kung-fu's Wayne Rooney in the head I will be here saying "I told you so." :D

[Fuschimuschi]

Kroos scored a nice goal against today for the U21 against Italy:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=QmHs99fdhX8

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wäääää !!! screamer

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I like how the English think we see them as the biggest rivals around, their egos are so overinflated. :p

Holland>England on the rivalry scale.

[Fuschimuschi]

Where do you get that impression?

I'm pretty sure they know Holland is our biggest rival by far.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Where do you get that impression?

I'm pretty sure they know Holland is our biggest rival by far.

No, the English think of us as enormous rivals. I just generally pick that up.
Here's a good article about our rivalries.

If you're English and reading this, I have awful news for you: the Germans don't hate you. They don't even dislike you. They don't even think it's unusually important to beat your teams at football.

When Aberdeen played Hertha in Berlin, their division of the Tartan Army sang 'We hate England more than you'. That confused me, because I wasn't aware that the Scots nurture a particular aversion to Germans. Then I realised I had got the chant wrong.

I thought it was meant to mean 'We hate England (even) more than we hate you', when in fact what they were saying was: 'We hate England more than you do'.

Sorry, Dons, bad news for you, too: we do not hate the English. In September 2001, I was in Munich for that now-legendary World Cup qualifier between Germany and 'In-ger-lund', on an assigment from a London magazine. The idea was to probe into the 'intense rivalry' by getting the supporters to explain why the match was so important.

Most of the English fans I spoke to admitted that playing Germany was indeed something special because of the war and a couple of other things, such as... well, the war. (My personal highlight of that day was the elderly lady who told me she had nothing against younger-generation Germans. Two minutes later a young and gruff waitress behaved quite rudely, whereupon the lady hissed at her: 'Thanks very much for being so German!')

The German fans, on the other hand, all gave me a blank stare. 'Rivalry? What nonsense!' Christian from Ulm said, speaking for the vast majority. 'Actually, I'd rather lose against England than against any other team.' He then went on to explain that Germans admire England's football culture and how every true German fan has an English club he supports.

I pointed out that it seems to be Liverpool for most people who are in their forties, due to those epic games against Mönchengladbach in the 1970s.

Then I said that I was younger and a Nottingham Forest buff. 'Well, you can't always win,' Christian said. Now, why have I chosen this topic of hostility? It's like this: I spent New Year's Eve on the Dutch coast, drinking Dutch beer ('Brand', if you're interested, much better than Heineken), wearing my SC Heerenveen shirt and reading Simon Kuper's new book 'Ajax, the Dutch, the War'.

Kuper lived in Holland during his youth, where he learned that every Dutchman fought in the Resistance and gave shelter to Jews during the occupation, thus earning the country the moral right to forever despise all things German.

Many years later Kuper went back to examine the truthfulness of this story by having a close look at how football players and teams spent the war years. I delved into his book with great enthusiasm, because it was obviously going to debunk the myth of Dutch inviolability in terms of morals. It's not that I hate the Dutch, far from it and Amsterdam is one of my two favourite cities.

However, as a German, you can never quite shed the feeling that the Dutch are looking down on you. Even my Dutch friends regularly make jokes about goose-stepping or whatever. Maybe I should have taken it as a sign that they considered me un-German enough to not feel offended, but still... it's this Dutch snootiness that has turned our meetings with Holland into the biggest grudge match we have.

Oh, there used to be other rivalries. Initially, of course, there was France: Germany had played Italy four times, England five times, Sweden eight times and Switzerland sixteen times before the first-ever Germany v France match could even get off the ground, such were the hostilities.

Later, our relationship with the French improved so much that not even Harald Schumacher's attempt to kill Patrick Battiston could ruin it.

That pretty much left Germans with Austria as the only team they felt they mustn't lose to - until that shameful match at the 1982 World Cup when the players conspired to make clear that going through was more important than mutual aversion.

Then the Dutch stepped into this void. Wim van Hanegem said: 'Every time I played against Germans I had a problem because of the war.'

Johnny Rep hit Schumacher. Ronald Koeman wiped his backside with Olaf Thon's shirt. Frank Rijkaard spat at Rudi Völler. That rankled with the Germans, because it was different from childish Bomber Harris impersonations: it was a display of contempt borne out of a feeling of superiority.

You can't say Germans didn't readily agree to having a new rivalry: when Holland failed to qualify for the 2002 World Cup, there was even a German website where you could throw spliffs and tulips at Dutch players.

So I started Kuper's book with eagerness, hoping he would help to knock the Dutch off their pedestal. Boy, did he comply. And yet I never felt a tinge of satisfaction. 'Ajax, the Dutch, the War' is probably the most painful, bleakest football book I've ever read, all the more so as Kuper also overthrows a few English illusions so nonchalantly that you sense he could easily have been more severe.

When I got to the part where he travels to Israel and has all these people telling him that they support Ajax and the Holland side because the Dutch helped the Jews so much, I found myself hoping Kuper would not tell them the truth, briefly thinking: 'Let people keep their myths and sneer at Germans, we can live with it.' But that was dumb, of course.

The book isn't aimed at Germans. It's aimed at people who use myths to justify things such as, well, football hostilities. Give it a read; it's more demanding than the latest Man Utd hagiography but also more rewarding.

+ (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=254058&root=europe&cc=3888)

They say Wiese is going to start vs. England so you officially failed :p

ADLER STARTED WHAT NOW. :p

[mambo]

ADLER STARTED WHAT NOW. :p

Wiese started 2nd half so lets seal it for you germanyfcbarsenal :p
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5083/fsealij5.gif


...and what a brilliant safe by Wiese when he deflected that rocket from Wright Phillips to the post! That was one of the very few match highlights, well next to Carson of course hihi^^
Marin was also nice to see, he always plays like a little hurrican. Hope he gets some more matchtime in the future, but it looks like Löw ranks Trochowski higher than him.

But the only thing i really hope for is that we move away from the 2 defensive midfielders,
i always miss our attacking power when we play like that :[

[germanyfcbarsenal]

That was terrible. We played terribly, no two ways around it.
A few highlights: Marin, Helmes got a goal (more so because of Carson, but oh well), but not much else.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I don't know if this belongs in here or not but oh well:

Valencia release keeper Hildebrand from contract

Valencia have agreed to release goalkeeper Timo Hildebrand from his contract, the Primera Liga club said on Thursday.

The Germany international, who missed out on the squad for Euro 2008, arrived on a free transfer from VfB Stuttgart in July 2007 and was seen as the long-term replacement for Santiago Canizares.

But the 29-year-old dropped out of contention under new coach Unai Emery, who has favoured new Brazilian arrival Renan as his first choice this season.

Hildebrand had a contract with Valencia until 2010.

+ (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=598973&cc=3888)

Huh....I guess that puts him out of contention for the NT for now regardless of previous form.

[jr!]

I've heard that HSV, 1. FC Köln, Hoffenheim & BVB are all interested.

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kicker has some euro pix (http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/em/slideshow/object/501880/) as little xmas present


http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/28000/slideshow/701889/image_slshow_einzel_0_16.jpg
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final
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spuad for the next game

Tor: Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen)

Abwehr: Andreas Beck (1899 Hoffenheim), Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), Andreas Hinkel (Celtic Glasgow), Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), Serdar Tasci (VfB Stuttgart), Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04)

Mittelfeld: Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Mesut Özil (Werder Bremen), Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV)

Angriff: Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Patrick Helmes (Bayer Leverkusen), Stefan Kießling (Bayer Leverkusen), Miroslav Klose (Bayern München)



my 11
Adler
beck - merte - westermann - lahm
rolfes
schweini - ballack - trochowski
helmes - kiesling

[BananaGhost]

Ok, this question may be dumb but... what's up with Metzelder?

[AlexLFC]

Ok, this question may be dumb but... what's up with Metzelder?

Don't know, have not seen him play in ages. Löw probably didn't either, that's why he's not included in the squad I guess.

Sadly, one of the best German defenders destroyed his career with his move to Real. He has to come back to the BuLiga in order to keep his international career going I suppose.

[deviant]

Don't know, have not seen him play in ages. Löw probably didn't either, that's why he's not included in the squad I guess.

Sadly, one of the best German defenders destroyed his career with his move to Real. He has to come back to the BuLiga in order to keep his international career going I suppose.

Whaaaaaaaaaat he destroyed his career by coming to us? are you nuts? he has been riddled with injuries and poor performances

[dittsche]

my 11
Adler
beck - merte - westermann - lahm
rolfes
schweini - ballack - trochowski
helmes - kiesling

i like...well, maybe hinkel for beck :)

[AlexLFC]

Whaaaaaaaaaat he destroyed his career by coming to us? are you nuts? he has been riddled with injuries and poor performances

Well, yes, I think he did destroy his international career there. I did not rate him THAT high to be able to play regularly for Real Madrid anyway. Of course, his injuries didn't help him either, but now, with the new coach and so, he won't be able to make it into the first team on a regular basis. I guess it'd be better for him to move on and go back to the BuLiga

[jr!]

I have to agree with AlexLFC here on this.
He wasn't in the best of shape with BVB in the first place, but going to Real clearly wasn't the right decision, but if you're a player of his calibre & a team like Madrid come calling, it's hard not to resist. There's no room for him at BVB, unless he wants to play fullback. We have four young central defenders, Hummels, Subotic, Santana, Hühnemeier (the chickenman as I call him).

[mambo]

I have to agree with AlexLFC here on this.
He wasn't in the best of shape with BVB in the first place, but going to Real clearly wasn't the right decision, but if you're a player of his calibre & a team like Madrid come calling, it's hard not to resist. There's no room for him at BVB, unless he wants to play fullback. We have four young central defenders, Hummels, Subotic, Santana, Hühnemeier (the chickenman as I call him).

Metze never was a top player :| The lack of competition threw him into the first german team and his experience kept him there for a long period. To be fair, he never did many faults when he played for us.
I would love to say his lucky streak is over soon, but i dont see any competition for him at all. Westermann and Friedrich need to fill the wingback-gap and Tasci still is too young (so are Castro/Höwedes). Maybe Westermann can take over as soon as Jansen manages to be a reliable wingback, but will that happen in a near future ? :p

[jr!]

I don't know about that, Metze had skill & his positioning was solid.
You'd think he'd learn something from Cannavaro.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Versus Wales - great goal by Ballack, I only saw the highlights so I can't comment on the rest of the game, BUT:

v/iTyCkiTCU6M

What the hell was Podolski doing (at the end of the highlights)?
Ballack is the captain, Ballack has experience, Ballack is one of the classiest players of his generation; and then Poldi goes and dissents and smacks him in the face? :confused::mad: Anybody have any thoughts/further information?

[RyFryy]

Indeed. I would love to know what that was all about, and not from some shoddy source.

[jr!]

listening to the commentary it sounds like Ballack was giving Poldi shit for something & Poldi took offence to that.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

listening to the commentary it sounds like Ballack was giving Poldi shit for something & Poldi took offence to that.

Yes, I know, but it is Ballack's job to tell people when they're doing something wrong that's messing up the team, which, according to the commentary, he was doing. And even if he was getting on Poldi's nerves, you don't just slap your captain....

[jr!]

I looked on Kicker & saw nothing else about this. If Poldi is not in the lineup for the next game I guess we know why! Funny to see Lahm go in there to break things up when he's hobbitt sized!

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it's funny that it's always ballack in the middle of stuff like that.
i take it that he can be a bit undiplomatic at times. :o

scene shows that ballack is loosing ground atm, hope they sort it out again.

[Übersuperduper]

it's funny that it's always ballack in the middle of stuff like that.
i take it that he can be a bit undiplomatic at times. :o

scene shows that ballack is loosing ground atm, hope they sort it out again.

maybe Ballack is 'old-school' German and tells it as it is instead of perhaps trying to joke around with Poldi on the pitch to persuade him to do something.

And how is Ballack losing ground when he's the one who lifts the team up with his play, and even according to teammates and even Bierhof and Jogi, with leadership and talking to teammates more than before? Without Ballack, how far would Germany have gone in Euro08?

Maybe next time Ballack should apologize for Poldi slapping him. Or maybe Poldi needs to grow up and realize he's got responsibilities when playing on a team, and can't be selfish. He has to listen to what the Captain says, whether he likes it or not.

[jr!]

I also read somewhere recently that after Ballack's issues with Löw recently, he's started to take charge more & actually play & act like a captain, whereas before he didn't.

[RyFryy]

Obviously something is different when he puts on the Germany jersey. He's like a different player. Anything who watches Chelsea knows this, especially this season. For whatever reasons he is twice the player when he's the captain for his country.

[jr!]

There's an article on ESPN soccernet now:

Germany diffuse Ballack-Podolski row

German captain Michael Ballack's row with striker Lukas Podolski in Wednesday's 2-0 World Cup qualifying win against Wales showed Germany were still a work in progress when it came to team spirit.

Ballack had signalled the two Group Four qualifiers against Liechtenstein and Wales would be a fresh start for the Euro 2008 finalists after months of internal wrangling and consecutive home defeats in friendlies against England and Norway.

While Germany won both matches, the row on the pitch in Cardiff showed peace had yet to return to the squad since Ballack publicly fell out with coach Joachim Loew after the Euro 2008 final defeat against Spain.

On Wednesday, Podolski challenged a Ballack tactical order in the 67th minute with the score already 2-0, before pushing his captain away. Two more players rushed in to separate them.

Germany manager Oliver Bierhoff was quick to dismiss the incident, saying the air had been cleared immediately after the match.

"They looked deep into each other's eyes and the matter was dealt with," Bierhoff told reporters on Thursday, ruling out any punishment for Podolski.

Ballack, backed by Loew, said Podolski had disagreed with a tactical decision.

"Lukas still has a lot to learn. If he has a different opinion then we can discuss it off the pitch. But he has to accept the captain's decision on it," Ballack told ARD television.

"And in no way should he get physical," Ballack said of being pushed by the striker following the disagreement.

This is not the first sign of simmering differences with Ballack. Striker Miroslav Klose recently said the Chelsea midfielder had changed, getting closer to players and appearing more open.

Ballack said he was no different to before the row last year that saw him briefly out of the squad.

Despite the discord Germany, still have a near-perfect 2010 World Cup qualification record, topping their group with 16 out of possible 18 points after six matches, four ahead of main competitors Russia, who have a game in hand.

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Bierhoff says Poldi won't be punished ?
I don't buy it, he got emergency subbed in a WC qualifier.
Don't think any coach like to adjust his subbing plan b/c some kid can't control himself.
Will be interesting to see if he gets a call up for the next qualifiers.

[sweed]

he wont be punished b/c Poldi showed he had some balls. Still shouldn't have done that to the captain.

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lol, just reading yesterdays paper and a annon german player leaked the convo between poldi and ballack
i try to translate a bit

ballack: concentrate, move better and remember the runs, don't play so bad
poldi: shut up, run yourself asshole. lol

poldi donates 5.000€ to the DFB Fairplay Committee,
FIFA could ban him for a couple of games btw

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Obviously something is different when he puts on the Germany jersey. He's like a different player. Anything who watches Chelsea knows this, especially this season. For whatever reasons he is twice the player when he's the captain for his country.

It brings out the best in him, I suppose. Whatever it is, I love it. :D

lol, just reading yesterdays paper and a annon german player leaked the convo between poldi and ballack
i try to translate a bit

ballack: concentrate, move better and remember the runs, don't play so bad
poldi: shut up, run yourself asshole. lol

poldi donates 5.000€ to the DFB Fairplay Committee,
FIFA could ban him for a couple of games btw

That pisses me off a lot. :mad:

[BananaGhost]

lol, just reading yesterdays paper and a annon german player leaked the convo between poldi and ballack
i try to translate a bit

ballack: concentrate, move better and remember the runs, don't play so bad
poldi: shut up, run yourself asshole. lol

poldi donates 5.000€ to the DFB Fairplay Committee,
FIFA could ban him for a couple of games btw


I lol'd

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News bits

*Germany to play U17 Final on Sunday against Holland :D

*Stuttgarts Cacau got german citizenship, got good chances to make it into the germany squad for the trip to asia.

he's a nice and humble guy, very sympathetic, and a good addition to our already overwhelming attack :D

[mambo]

*Stuttgarts Cacau got german citizenship, got good chances to make it into the germany squad for the trip to asia.

he's a nice and humble guy, very sympathetic, and a good addition to our already overwhelming attack :D


Heared about that in the last Sportschau!
You are 100% right, he is a fantastic guy. Great character.
But i dont understand why we put him on the team :confused: In the past years he seemed average and limited. Ok he is on a good run, maybe his best form ...but that wont last forever and then he is the average player again.
We have Klose, Podolski, Helmes, Gomez -all outstanding players- and other youngsters with a great perspective like Kießling, Baumjohann and others from the Uxx-teams, ... so where is Cacau fitting in ?

[Übersuperduper]

Cacau is a great person and a really good footballer, but he's not really German. Yes he's just become a citizen, but I don't think it's wise for Germany to follow Croatia and Poland and have a Brazilian playing for its national team. For me there's a difference between Cacau and Gerald Asamoah, who's one of my favorite German players of recent years. Asamoah came to Germany from Ghana at 10 or 12 and then became a regular part of German society. He didn't come to Germany to play for the Bundesliga, and he would've stayed even if he hadn't made it. National teams need to stay true to the spirit of the national team. Ozil for me is German, just like Asamoah, especially since he had the chance to play for Turkey and was even born in Germany. But Cacau only came to Germany to play in the Bundesliga and would most likely jump at the chance to play for Brazil. I would feel 100% different if Cacau left Brazil at 13 to live in Germany for economic reasons and then stayed and got into football. National teams need to not become like clubs.

[DemocritusJr]

*Stuttgarts Cacau got german citizenship, got good chances to make it into the germany squad for the trip to asia.


Emphasis might be on the latter part of that statement; "for the trip to Asia." With the Pokal, CL and Under 21EM all crossing over with the Asia trip, a good share of the regs won't be available. Cacau might find himself with the modest honours of merely filling up the roster.

[Fuschimuschi]

Yeah, he's going to end up like Rink.

I pretty much share Übersuperduper's view on this matter but there's nothing we can do about it.

I also feel the same way about De Guzman and the Dutch NT.

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to me it sounds like Cacau wanted to get german citizen because he wants to live here for longer, he said it's his second home country.
I have no reason to doubt him and i have no hard feelings picture him playing for germany unlike Ailton and the others that wanted to get german only to play a world cup.

now to something more joyful
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00814/sieger_DW_Sport_Mag_814087g.jpg

highlights
v/OoN85g8UYIE&hl=de&fs=1

[RyFryy]

The game winning goal was beautiful. :)

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yeah that free kick was perfect, what a cool fucker scoring a stunner like that in the dieing minutes of the 2. half of extra time in a euro final.
He defiantly made his name known, Florian Trinks.

[germanyfcbarsenal]

The game winning goal was beautiful. :)

I think the Dutch goalie thought it was going to miss. :D

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I'm a bit confused that Kroos and Baumjohann are not in the U21 squad.
Any idea what happend?


uhhm you guys see a pattern here too :D

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1078/64400619fa9.jpg

looking forward to 2012 ;)

[germanyfcbarsenal]

I'm a bit confused that Kroos and Baumjohann are not in the U21 squad.
Any idea what happend?


uhhm you guys see a pattern here too :D

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1078/64400619fa9.jpg

looking forward to 2012 ;)

No? :confused:

[sweed]

Final-Champion, Final-Champion, Final-?????

[germanyfcbarsenal]

Final-Champion, Final-Champion, Final-?????

Oh. Well, we'll see. ;)