Hate for Domenech?

[gauchebag]

so i've had a couple of french mates try and explain it to me but i still don't understand why french people hate domenech...he has been good for the team. they made the freaking world cup final people. i've looked at his lineups extensively and i love who he played during the cup and they haven't exactly been slouching lately.

[drac78]

He doesn't call the right players (e.g. many people would like to see Pirés and/or Giuly), those 2 being on his "black-list".

He says a lot of bullshit and can't keep his mouth shut.

He's a lame tactician, Zidane got us to the final, not Dommenech

those are just reasons off the top of my head and he's hated for many more reasons..

[thelovepizza]

Didn't he pick his world cup side using Tarrot cards?

[drac78]

Didn't he pick his world cup side using Tarrot cards?

yep there was a rumour about this :D

[Dogme]

No, he gets his management skills from Tintin books :D

[zaffo]

No, he gets his management skills from Tintin books :D

LOL, quality.

Well were do you start.

1. He's a fvcking tosser.
2. Shafts to many players (much like Capello), Pires, Guily and Trezeguet to name some.
3. Isnt the sharpest tool in the shed.
4. Makes stupid comments that make him look like a jealous twat. (Regarding his allegations against the Azzurri and the Italian league.) Which got him suspended.
5. Isnt the most loved buy NT players. Coupe and Thuram dont seem to hold much love for him. Then again neither would I.

So yeah, basically he's just a all round pole smoker in general.

[TheLionLyon]

Literally everything that has been mentioned. He's ignorant and seems to have no clue what the hell he's doing at times. For example, He brought on Chimbonda, no experience at all to fill a spot on the 2006 World Cup Squad, enough said. Obviously better options available. Not only wasn't Chimbonda featured in a match during the WC, but he hasn't been with the French squad since. He also seems to have secret vendettas against certain players. Pires, everyone knows that situation, Guily, Mexes, Zebina, Coupet, and others.

As I continue to say, the FFF is just waiting for him to **** up and that's it.

[cartbran]

Everyone has pretty much nailed all of the complaints. But the biggest one is that a lot of the great players could not wait to retire from the NT they were so irritated with him. You have to remember that Zidane, Thuram and Makelele all retired from the NT at the same time. Domenech is so full of himself, that he made a number of statements that the team were better off without them. France were on the verge of not qualifying for the '06 WC and Domenech did not bother to ask them to return. The French press made a public plea for Zidane and Makalele and Thurman to come back for the sake of the nation and they did and France qualified. He's a stubborn idiot and it is notable that Anelka did not make it back into the team until he made a public and humiliating apology to him. And through no help of Domenech, made it to the WC Final. As TheLionLyon said, the FFF is just waiting for him screw up. But the problem is that France has way too much talent, so they can be successful despite him. I would be surprised if he survived passed EURO2008, but then the problem of who to replace him with emerges. Perhaps Houllier?

[Rev]

Perhaps Houllier?

I won't bank on Houllier, he made a big mess out of Liverpool. He did win a whole lot of league titles in Ligue 1 but Lyon's squad is far too good for other Ligue 1 teams.

[Butterfly]

I would be surprised if he survived passed EURO2008, but then the problem of who to replace him with emerges. Perhaps Houllier?lol we already saw what he could do for us! At the time he was our coach we didn't qualified for the WC94... :rolleyes:
Since Wenger signed a new contract with Arsenal, the only one who could do a good job for us would be Claude Puel. Puel is maybe the most talented coach in France nowadays.

[cavenaghi]

Since Wenger signed a new contract with Arsenal, the only one who could do a good job for us would be Claude Puel. Puel is maybe the most talented coach in France nowadays.
You forgot Deschamps.
Deschamps is the one that everyone expects, much more than Puel.
We all know he will become "sélectionneur" one day or another. The only question is: is he willing the take the job so soon in his career? Maybe not.

[shreyas]

Or le guen?

[TheLionLyon]

You forgot Deschamps.
Deschamps is the one that everyone expects, much more than Puel.
We all know he will become "sélectionneur" one day or another. The only question is: is he willing the take the job so soon in his career? Maybe not.

Yeah, Deschamps was the first person that came to mind when I read cartbran, post. Dreossi(:p) too, but very unlikely.

[drac78]

Deschamps or Puel, either of them would be great.

I don't want the -21 team coach to be promoted to the senior team as it happened with Domenech :mad:

[zaffo]

Haha read a article saying that Nobenech doesnt work on defending set pieces when they do NT training. He says its a waste of time when the players should already know how to do it.

[floppyx]

- Lame tactician. He displayed a defensive tactic agains Scotland last time. Scotland played counters, and defended 99% of the time. He ordered Malouda to fill the gap in midfield whereas the winger didn't have to, because of the weak opposition. Viera shouldn't have played because of his unfitted shape. One def. midfielder was enough. Diarra, despite of his great game against Italy made horrible crosses and spoiled a lot of occasions. He's not a full back.

-Domenech is totally a coach who undergoes the game of the opposition, he can't anticipate the game, that's why, when Scotland scored, he finally decided to play with more forwards...

-At WC2006, Les Bleus lacked of a real forward. They had Govou on the bench, but he's a winger. Henry lacked stamina after 60 mins game...

-Still didnt have chosen a guy to replace Malouda, when this one sucks. And he sucks since 2006.

[Floating Tramp]

He's a looney toon. Has admitted the aligning of the stars influences his decision in picking players and he talks a LOAD of shite in the media. Which may seem novel to the casual observer but if you're wanting France to win, play good and can only take so much zanery and whimsy then he's quite 'hatable'.

Reaching the World Cup final was as much the players getting it together with senior figures like Zidane as the spearheads than Domenech's influence as a manager. Oh, and the fact their opposition wasn't the best. I mean Brazil, JEBUS.

lol we already saw what he could do for us! At the time he was our coach we didn't qualified for the WC94... :rolleyes:
Since Wenger signed a new contract with Arsenal, the only one who could do a good job for us would be Claude Puel. Puel is maybe the most talented coach in France nowadays.

Not sure Wenger'd do a good job. He likes to mould his team with players he's nurtured or he knows he can trust. He doesn't like big names. And French football will forever be full of them. Which is why i think he's always dismissed taking over the national team.

[djcash50]

Hate for Domenech? Are you guys sure this is in the right forum section? :p

[emma_my_girl]

Not sure Wenger'd do a good job. He likes to mould his team with players he's nurtured or he knows he can trust. He doesn't like big names. And French football will forever be full of them. Which is why i think he's always dismissed taking over the national team.

Too bad the French U-21 job wouldn't be glamorous enough.... Wenger's IDEAL job after his days at Arsenal are over. And who would the direct beneficiaries be?? Not only the players he ingeniously scouts and brings to Clairefontaine, but the national team as a whole. Then he'd have no choice but to like big names- they'd all be his creation!

Puel or Deschamps would definitely be a welcome replacement for Domenech. I hate to say it, but the French will likely STILL successful in 2008, albeit by the skills of the players alone. (some thanks to Wenger- Flamini, Diaby, Clichy, Traore and Sagna will all be recalled to the squad at some point) If I didn't enjoy cheering for les Bleus so much, I'd almost hope they did miserably at Euro 2008 (although with their group- never know) so that Domenech would get the hook.

[varya^1]

Or le guen?lmfao//working wonders down at PSG.

To be fair Rothen is like their only decent player.

[shreyas]

lmfao//working wonders down at PSG.

To be fair Rothen is like their only decent player.

yeh.. with the right players he really can make a good side.. like the lyon one in 03-05.. that was a really good squad..

[ugen64]

Claude Puel was my pick for Arsenal manager if Wenger left (when all the talk was going on about his contract). I don't know if he would make a good NT coach, and also I think he and Deschamps are too young. (but then again are there any better candidates?) Maybe Puel gets the nod because he has actually managed, and been successful, in the Champions League (I remember one year they beat and drew with Man Utd in the group stages). Maybe finally Bodmer would get called up?