Rangers facing liquidation - Page 3

ihaveamullet · 22-06-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hibby1875

I ken mate, I'm just being a cheeky fud as usual - no dig intended.

Well you could look at it in a positive way that since there's gonnae be a new massive fanbase for Rangers 3rd division matches, there must be a decent possibility for media (even if only internet) coverage of their games for the next 3 seasons. Not sure on the logistics of such a deal but it would be good for the lower division teams to get some decent notice at last (even if it's only versus Rangers) & also a good chance it might end up recorded somewhere on the interwebs/here.

Sounds plausible imo, I for one will look out for it.

I didn't think you were making a dig, just speaking the truth! Sorry if I seemed to take offense.

I'm hoping some kind of deal happens. I would think that Rangers would at least get the games aired via their website.

zabadoh · 22-06-2012, 08:13 AM

Given the size of their fanbase, I'm sure some sort of sports channel will want to cover Rangers matches even at a lower division, just like what happened with Juve when they were punished and send down one division a couple of years back.

If not, then at the very least Rangers can stream their own games.

Good luck with a crappy situation.

ihaveamullet · 25-06-2012, 04:01 PM

Rangers are set to be rejected from the SPL this season. Inverness CT, Dundee United, Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibernian have all made public they are voting against allowing Rangers back in. Rangers needed at least an 8-4 vote in favor.

To top things off 4 players are walking away from the club so far. Rhys McCabe, Sone Aluko, Steven Whittaker and Steven Naismith. Aluko was technically out of contract, while the other three are set to reject a transfer to the newco. Others are rumored to be following suit, especially since it looks like there will be no SPL football with Rangers in their immediate future.

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EDIT: Lee Wallace announced he will stay with us making him the second to stay after Lee McCulloch. Jamie Ness, Kyle Lafferty, Steven Davis and Allan McGregor will be leaving.

hibby1875 · 04-07-2012, 05:11 PM

Well, that's it official - no SPL for Rangers next season:

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Rangers newco application rejected by Scottish Premier League clubs
By Telegraph Sport
2:51PM BST 04 Jul 2012

Rangers have been kicked out of next season's Scottish Premier League after rival clubs voted "overwhelmingly" to exclude the ailing Glasgow giants.

The Scottish Premier League announced the news in a brief statement after more than five hours of talks at Hampden today.

SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster earlier hinted the vote could be deferred amid fears over the financial consequences of the Ibrox club starting their new life in the Third Division, but clubs carried through their vow to deny Charles Green's bid.

An SPL statement read: "At today's General Meeting, SPL clubs today voted overwhelmingly to reject the application from Rangers newco to join the SPL."

The soon-to-be-liquidated Ibrox club had applied to rejoin the league after reforming as a new company.

It caps a humiliating fall from grace for the most successful club in Scottish football, who were plunged into crisis earlier this year after entering administration following a tax dispute.
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SPL clubs will now hope their Scottish Football League counterparts accept the newco in the First Division amid warnings that £16million could be lost to the Scottish game if they go down to the Third.

Three-quarters of Rangers fans on the season-ticket database voted for the lower tier in a poll for their preferred option, but Green has previously declared his intention to play at the highest possible level.

Warnings have been made in the last few days that up to half the SPL clubs could go into administration if the Ibrox club are in the bottom tier.

It appears that most if not all of the SPL's commercial contracts include exit clauses for sponsors and partners allowing them to pull out or renegotiate if the Old Firm are not present.

The clauses were inserted amid speculation over the Glasgow pair moving to England or into a European league but they have proved costly after Rangers went into liquidation last month.

A package put to SFL clubs to accept the Ibrox side in the second tier includes moves to merge the leagues, promotion play-offs to the top flight and a £1million payment for television rights.

Before the meeting this morning, Doncaster said: "There are probably three options for dealing with Rangers. Rangers coming into the SPL with an appropriate range of sanctions is one option. Rangers going into the second tier is another option.

"The option that a lot of people have talked about, Rangers in the fourth tier, ultimately that would wreak huge financial damage on the whole game and it's difficult to see why 41 innocent clubs should pay the price for the misdeeds of one.

"So I think there are really two viable options that are in play at the moment."

It is as yet unclear whether relegated Dunfermline or Dundee, who finished second in the First Division, will replace Rangers in the SPL although the proposal put to SFL clubs states the Dens Park club would be promoted.

Green, whose Sevco firm bought the assets of Rangers for £5.5million, attended the meeting with chairman Malcolm Murray and manager Ally McCoist, who left before noon.

The verdict was announced by email about 2.20pm, with Green and Murray leaving shortly afterwards, while SPL clubs continued to talk.

Green claimed earlier this week he was confident chairmen would listen to his pleas after meeting several clubs to warn them of the financial implications.

Murray issued an "unreserved" apology yesterday in a move thought to be designed to pave the way for a U-turn.

But St Johnstone, St Mirren, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibernian, Dundee United and Inverness had already declared their opposition while Motherwell last night announced their fans had voted to reject the application. Green needed an 8-4 majority.

St Mirren confirmed on their website they had voted to reject the application as previously intimated.

Hopes from the SPL clubs that the SFL would back the First Division option suffered a blow during the meeting when Dunfermline and Clyde confirmed their opposition today and Partick Thistle said they could not support the plans, although they called for radical overhaul.

However, Clyde also claimed they had been left in little doubt following an SFL meeting on Tuesday that the Third Division was not a viable option.

The club said: "The SPL implication is that it therefore has to be SFL1 with a bit of restructure, or an SPL2 with the rest of the SFL cut adrift. There were no other options."

The SFL were expected to hold a board meeting tomorrow where a date could be set for a vote on the newco admission.

Source: Telegraph

10 of the 12 clubs, eh? St. Johnstone abstained apparently. Now just tae see if it's 3rd or 1st division next season. Not puttin any bets on here likes...

ihaveamullet · 05-07-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hibby1875

10 of the 12 clubs, eh? St. Johnstone abstained apparently. Now just tae see if it's 3rd or 1st division next season. Not puttin any bets on here likes...

The SPL has tried to jam it up our asses since we hit administration. They have actually threatened SFL clubs to vote us into Division 1 because SKY is willing to do only 1 season without both members of the Old Firm. The clubs want Division 3. The fans want Division 3. Even Super Ally wants Division 3. Hopefully the SFL clubs don't give in.

In my opinion nothing but good things will come from us not being the SPL. I don't completely buy these rumors that without the draw of Rangers in the SPL that other clubs will fold. First of all with us gone the other 10 non Old Firm clubs can finally get votes to go in their favor. Maybe this will help spread the wealth a little more evenly. It's not fun to watch my club compete against one other team all season. I want to sit down for a match and know Rangers will have to be on top of their game to beat Inverness, Hibs, etc. I want to see a non Old Firm champion. I want the SPL to turn into a legitimate competition.

The strangle hold Rangers and Celtic have had has done nothing but harm. No club has benefitted from the way things have been. Rangers and Celtic might make it out of the group stages of the Champions League one day if they are forced to actually compete week after week.

I mean no disrespect to any other SPL clubs with this rant. It's not their fault they get treated like shit compared to the Old Firm. They and their fans deserve better. I know at least 99% of Rangers fans would accuse me of not being a true supporter because of what I'm saying. I don't care. I don't want to see my club win the SPL and fizzle out of Europe year after year. It does us no good.

That being said, good luck next season Hibby. I genuinely hope it's you celebrating with the SPL trophy. At the very least qualifying for Champions League football.

hammer · 05-07-2012, 09:31 PM

What I find disgraceful is that, less than a month before the start of the offical season, we still don´t know who are going to compete as club 12 in the SPL. If I was a Dunfermline supporter, I´d be fuming.

We still don´t know who are competing in the First division or in the Third. We might have a SPL side playing in the minor cup in July but we don´t know if new rangers are playing in that minor cup. I gather the draw was made even before they were created as a football club.

Years ago it was easy to tell second placed team in the First division could not make it into the SPL as champions Falkirk were denied that place yet we have to include now a club from that First division into the SPL a fortnight before a ball is kicked.

Cowdenbeath´s Donald Findaly seems to talk sense these days about how Rangers should restart in Scottish football but I wonder if he has something to do with the 134M debt.

hibby1875 · 13-07-2012, 05:13 PM

Well, that's the SFL vote in - 25 out of 30 clubs voted for 3rd division football for newco Rangers this season.

My faith in Scottish football has been mostly restored, hopefully this is the beginning of a new stage for the game. It also shows the money men that the fans are still a powerful force.

So, how/when is the club 12 thingmy being resolved? A playoff between the Pars & Dundee perhaps, they'll have tae be quick tho.

Good stuff.

varun · 13-07-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hibby1875

Well, that's the SFL vote in - 25 out of 30 clubs voted for 3rd division football for newco Rangers this season.

My faith in Scottish football has been mostly restored, hopefully this is the beginning of a new stage for the game. It also shows the money men that the fans are still a powerful force.

So, how/when is the club 12 thingmy being resolved? A playoff between the Pars & Dundee perhaps, they'll have tae be quick tho.

Good stuff.

This is kind of amazing. It means Celtic will probably coast to a few SPL titles over the next few years or drop in quality because no one is challenging them.

ihaveamullet · 14-07-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by varun

This is kind of amazing. It means Celtic will probably coast to a few SPL titles over the next few years or drop in quality because no one is challenging them.

Honestly, probably both. Celtic will have the title wrapped up by December, but they won't have ANY challenges. When you play poor competition (once again I mean no offense to the rest of the clubs) you get used to coasting and eventually your form drops. That's what Rangers and Celtic have been suffering from. One of us will always win the league with the other being miles ahead of the 3rd place team, but we crash out of Europe. Big fish, small pond and all of that.

Nelly · 15-07-2012, 09:12 AM

I think we've been punished more than enough for the actions of a sole individual to be honest.

Lets get something clear here...Rangers have been found guilty of nothing more than Craig Whyte's premeditated decision to withold tax an ni contributions...that is all.

The crown office have begun an official investigation into how Whyte took control of the club and there is a likelihood of crminal charges being brought against him. Now, if that happens and its proven 'Old Rangers' have been the victims of a criminal offence then the rules of SFA preclude punishment lol
The SFA themselves had a duty to ensure Rangers were run by 'fit and proper' persons....they failed.

The hysterical,rabid reactions of fans throughout Scotland,although not unexpected, just goes to show what a nasty wee country this is. Polls from fans sayin they'd rather have no club of their own and see it go out of buisness,than see Rangers in the SPL. Get a fucking grip of yourselves. Well, im glad its gonna come to that....fucking turkeys voting for christmas.

We went into administration...yes, punished. Fine,thank you...get over it and get on with it.