Zeh German NT Shrine *Spoilers*

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I feel for Schweinsteiger, such a good tournament and than...
Lets turn the view forward, the future is bright.

[Übersuperduper]

Originally Posted by Whoah10115

The best team since Brasil in 1970? No way.

LOL, no dude

the best German team since the legendary German 1970-1972 team is what I meant, specifically the team that won Euro72 which is generally accepted as the best German team ever

This team can reach that caliber, although it will be difficult to say the least.

btw, as a Brazilian, do you think it's possible for any other team to win in 2014 besides Brazil?

[chaouki]

well what can you say...spain was better again...but hey we're facing a bright future with those players

[Sataris]

Originally Posted by chaouki

well what can you say...spain was better again...but hey we're facing a bright future with those players

imagine when these players are 24ish and actually know what theyre doing!

[chaouki]

as i said, bright future ahead

[Whoah10115]

Originally Posted by Übersuperduper

LOL, no dude

the best German team since the legendary German 1970-1972 team is what I meant, specifically the team that won Euro72 which is generally accepted as the best German team ever

This team can reach that caliber, although it will be difficult to say the least.

btw, as a Brazilian, do you think it's possible for any other team to win in 2014 besides Brazil?

Oh OK...that's still a lot to ask, though I've loved this generation of German players since 2006. Germany really should have won that tournament. BTW, how much better is the 1970-72 team than the team in 1974? Off the top of my head I don't remember what players were missing or if anyone was out of their prime by then.



Yes. I think Germany will be a great team but will have a tough time doing it in Brasil. Argentina...they should have a great team and Messi should be in his prime by then (scary he isn't there yet) and I think that all the boos they'll get (a first in World Cup play) will actually drive them. They can't win tho.


The team that I think could really win in 2014 is...Spain. I don't know that Puyol can hold out that long, how close to his prime Xavi will still be. Same for Villa. But Torres should be close to his. Cesc will be in his, Iniesta hopefully, Sergio Ramos, Pique, Iker, David Silva, Xabi. If Xavi drops deeper like Pirlo, add Cesc and put Silva back in the line-up...as long as Puyol is still great (hard to say) and they add a better LB or play some insane 3man line, they could seriously be a better team than they are right now. That and they have to not be as arrogant as they've gotten over the past two years.


I seriously think if Spain lose this Sunday they're gonna be a handful in 2014. Brasil...I wonder about Lucio and Juan and our DM's. If those two are still great (even not as good) or we replace them with somewhat similar quality and we actually have DM's and CM's who are world class...we could have one of our great teams. I believe Dinho can still be up for it so lets see.

[sweed]

We got the next two Euros and the next World Cup on lock

[Sataris]

That we do

Last 3 World Cups
02: 2nd
06: 3rd
10: 3rd

14 looks like another loss in the final

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Originally Posted by Sataris

14 looks like another loss in the final

Almost any team in the world would love to have that problem.. Germans, man

[Übersuperduper]

Germany has to go to Euro2012 and WC2014 with the total belief that they will win it. No more bullshit "our goal is to get to the final" like in Euro2008 or "we reached our goal of the semifinal" in this WC. Notice how each time the team reached its goal and then lost. There has to be a throwback to the days of Rummenigge saying "Fuck off Chancellor" to Helmut Kohl in the locker room when they lost to Argentina in the final in Mexico City(after Chancellor Kohl told Rummenigge he's a good ambassador for Germany lol), this extreme super belief that they can win it and they will no matter who they're up against, such that a loss can't even be imagined. And this was in a really tight game against Maradona at his prime.

The only person I have a problem with in this team is Lahm, I just wish he shut the hell up when Ballack visited and didn't create that commotion with the captaincy issue until after the WC was over and the team was back in Germany. It's obvious that the team played better without Ballack and that perhaps Michael created tension in the team with his style of leadership. But if it were up to me, I'd give the captaincy to Schweinsteiger for Lahm's selfishness of promoting himself at the wrong time and wrong place.

Badstuber or Hummels should be able to take over from excellent Friedrich, if not in 2 years, then in Brazil. Janssen is a better left-back imho than Boateng, but Jerome might improve with playing in the Premiere League. I prefer Rolfes over Khedira when he's fit, and I think Neuer should remain #1 in goal. Kroos needs to be trusted for 90 minutes, while Müller should be up front with Kießling in the future. But you never know, there will be young players coming up who we don't know of right now.

But even though the team definitely surpassed my expectations(was expecting a 2-1 type of win against England and then a 1-0 loss against Argentina in the quarters), it wasn't mentally strong enough to be arrogant against Spain and show its true game. Part of the problem was definitely Trochowski not being as good as Müller(amazing considering how only 1 year ago Müller was playing in 3rd division for FCB II). But part of the problem was also Jogi Lion not risking Kroos for 90 minutes(unless like somebody said already he had the flu, but still, it's the WC so you have to go all in), and of course Mr.Lahm deciding to get the worst timing of the year award with his comments on the captaincy. I also don't think it helped to party and drink after the game against Argentina, it smelled of complacency.

So we'll see how things go in two years in Poland&Ukraine(why couldn't Uefa just choose 1??). But hopefully the old German mental strength will combine with the new style of offensive play to create even more amazing results with a winners medal at the end. Hoffentlich!!